airmark:


He would have resigned but for the clause in his contract that would have made him cough out huge amount if he had resigned.

Fraudiola would have been sacked if not for the Sheikh with too much money to spend. City's bench will beat Dortmund home and away.

gospel

Eruditor:


How long do you think, it will take for y'all to fall?/ that's a serious question because I seriously question all of y'all/

Saying none will ever do it in years to come is too bold a statement considering that before Pep someone has done 93 points before.

Happ birthday unlimited22

eph12:

I think the point is that Pep is lucky to have competent people to work with. Imagine Pep with Ed, he would have been frustrated by now

That’s what I’m saying. Pep is not responsible for all that. He’s not stopping Man Utd from getting a competent DoF like Txixia or stopping Chelsea from getting Marina away from transfer negotiations.

Conte wanted VVD but his superior argued he’s not worth 75m. Liverpool bought him at 75m because he’s worth it to them.

Ed refuse to pay 70m for Morata but instead bought Lukaku for 75m plus Rooney.

City wanted Sanchez at the summer transfer window and they believe he was not worth the amount Arsenal were calling, he later went to Utd for more money.

Whether another manager will do so well with the squad at his disposal is another thing entirely.

Unlimited22:
Fam, it's that time of the year again. It's me o'clock. Happy birthday to me.

Happy birthday bro. Age gracefully and joyfully

larride:


Bros you cannot blame Pep for the incompetence of your club board directors. It’s not like they were not spending, they were spending on average joes. Pep also had his own target that he didn’t get.

The excuse of buying players/spending money would have made sense if he was the only one doing it. Everyone is spending, some are just buying bang average players.

You are getting it wrong again. I didn't ask anyone to blame pep for others stupidity.

You claimed that 'nobody' stopped other clubs from spending, which was wrong.

Conte unlike Fraudiola had no final say on getting his targets. In fact Fraudiola would never work in that environment that Conte worked and won epl in his first attempt.

Matic was to be sold and Conte wasn't carried along. Emenalo confirmed that Conte was unhappy for turning down his Lukaku's interest for Morata.

If you think the same transfer policy have no effect on coaches plans and what operates at City is the same at Chelsea then I need to let this slide.

Chelsea frustrated Contes plan, that's a fact. You should only talk about your team regarding successfully getting your coach's key targets.

Unlimited22:
Fam, it's that time of the year again. It's me o'clock. Happy birthday to me.

Happy Birthday, more achievements and blessings.

Eruditor:


Conte's team won the league 1.5 seasons prior. Finishing 10th was and will always be a fluke. If you want to be finicky then tell me how Conte wins that league without Kante? So why are you making it look like it was the exact same team when it was not?

Sterling, Sané, Fernandinho are the solid players? The same Fernandinho someone even claimed Casemiro that cannot pass a ball is better than?

You people should keep telling yourselves anything that helps you sleep at night.

Sterling, Sane are top 20 wingers and head and shoulders above Pedro who is Nolito level. Pedro is a starter for Chelsea.

Fernandinho has always been above Casemiro in my eyes.

larride:


That’s what I’m saying. Pep is not responsible for all that. He’s not stopping Man Utd from getting a competent DoF like Txixia or stopping Chelsea from getting Marina away from transfer negotiations.

Conte wanted VVD but his superior argued he’s not worth 75m. Liverpool bought him at 75m because he’s worth it to them.

Nobody blamed pep. He was lucky that a team like Chelsea were foolish not to have allowed Conte build on his first seasons achievement.

Vvd was 60m not 75m when Conte wanted him. Stones was bought by Fraudiola for 50m or so. That didnt stop them from spending again on Laporte. He was given such financial backing that he changed goalies in two seasons like its nothing.

Conte in same peps environment, would be smiling before every match.

Unlimited22:
Fam, it's that time of the year again. It's me o'clock. Happy birthday to me.

happy baidai

airmark:


Nobody blamed pep. He was lucky that a team like Chelsea were foolish not to have allowed Conte build on his first seasons achievement.

Vvd was 60m not 75m when Conte wanted him. Stones was bought by Fraudiola for 50m or so. That didnt stop them from spending again on Laporte. He was given such financial backing that he changed goalies in two seasons like its nothing.

Conte in same peps environment, would be smiling before every match.

Go and ask Pep why he left Barca in 2012. Barca board had started behaving anyhow, abrogating power to themselves and Pep walked.

City hired Soriano and Bergiristan 2 years ahead of Pep in hopes of luring Pep, to show you Pep is the real power at City. A player knows if they do anyhow, they cannot run to the Sporting Director or CEO because they are all parapo. A player will naturally behave himself in such environment, or become an outcast and hurt his career.

Unlike in Chelsea where players will run to Emenalo or Marina or Roman to get what they want.

For example, imagine Pep pinpoint Claudio Bravo for replacement, and City bosses instead of replacing him, offer him new contract. This is exactly what happened with Marcos Alonso in 2017 to where Chelsea gave a bumper contract to a player fingered for replacement by the manager. Now, you will struggle to find a buyer for Alonso given the new wages they gave him. Every successive manager will need to mollycuddle Alonso for the next few years when he is just not up to standard defensively.

Same with Luiz. Conte had fingered him for phasing out but Chelsea will tell him Luiz cost a lot of money, is on big contract and is one of Roman favourites, so you need to make space for him in your team. This is the equivalent of City telling Pep he must continue making space for Mangala because Mangala cost £42m.

Same way if City decide to sell player Pep wants to keep like Fernandinho as was the case with Matic.

All these things antagonise managers and lead to poor performance. Conte foul mood in 2017/18 was as a result of this and created a bad environment with the players. He was also partly responsible for agreeing to some crap players like Bakayoko, Zappa and co so I want absolve him completely. What I would say is manager and board must have complete synergy which is the difference between City and Chelsea. When Pep noticed that Barca board were doing anyhow in 2012, he went on sabbatical, rather than work in a fractious environment.

Eruditor:


Apart from that, all those players they are calling top 20 were made top 20 by Pep. NOT one single soul had good things to say about these same players after the WC.

I once said something on scummy thread that if pep decide to sign a player from lobi stars or soun fc of ogbomosho and another coach decides to sign let say neymar and mbappe from psg all this pep haters will start telling us how pep has been buying the best players and not the coaches who signed players from psg. Beside all the players they tend to hype after playing for pep can't be recommended for their club by them prior to when pep decides to sign them.

KingAzubuike:

Honestly fraudiola has always had life easy for him. The players he works with are usually ready made that an unknown coach will even do well with.

So why did the ready made players go back to back seasons trophyless at Barca before Pep?

airmark:


Nobody blamed pep. He was lucky that a team like Chelsea were foolish not to have allowed Conte build on his first seasons achievement.

Vvd was 60m not 75m when Conte wanted him. Stones was bought by Fraudiola for 50m or so. That didnt stop them from spending again on Laporte. He was given such financial backing that he changed goalies in two seasons like its nothing.

Conte in same peps environment, would be smiling before every match.

I’m not arguing against this sir. I’m against you saying he was lucky. His team is the best team in the league for the past 2 season. If Conte had gotten Lukaku and VVD, there’s no guarantee that Conte would have won the league either. All these are possibilities.

It’s speak more about Chelsea, Man Utd and the rest not supporting their manager 100% but the truth is that these club were spending also but the spending were on average joes.

hensben:
Your example is flawed cos Kante, Mahrez before were the reason behind Leicester winning epl before you mention Vardy. Secondly, Ronaldo is a player unlike pep and Ronaldo was very instrumental to the team’s success due to his overall stats for his team. Pep coached a Barca that won ucl in 2006, the players were still there but the team had internal crisis led by Ronaldinho’s irregular behavior. He did nothing special with a treble winning Bayern. He came to a city side that were ready to do anything he want with money, he had to overhauled the team cos his first season was below to standard

So Guardiola was not instrumental to his team achievements? He did nothing Special with his Barca team. We are saying the same thing . Using your logic Messi and Ronaldo Have done nothing special in football because all they have done is played for the biggest teams in the world and supported by world class players. Vardy and mahrez carrying Leicester to Epl glory is greater than all they have done.

Ibime:


Not my opinion. Fact. The tram Conte inherited just finished 10th

Frauiola midfield to forward position was Aguero, Sane, Sterling, KDB, Silva, Fernandinho.

Their weakest non-defender was Nolito, who was a starter for Spain National team whilst Pedro had been jettisoned by Spain, yet Pedro was in Chelsea starting11 while Nolito was the last substitute at City.

This same team that finished 10th was the same team that won the league previously. So cut them some slack and not forgetting his midfield to forward position were Costa, Hazard, Willian, fabregas, Mikel, Matic, with an option of signing back salah. Brilliant players all through and not in any way inferior to the man City players.

Beside recent happenings have shown it's always easier to win with Chelsea than any other team because of our resilience, that is why a useless Sarri who hasn't been to any finals with his previous teams can boast of appearing in epl and Europa League finals, benitez can win Europa league can win after just 4 to 6 months in charge.RDM could win ucl and fa Cup not spending up to a year.

sod09:
happy baidai

Thanks man

airmark:


Happy Birthday, more achievements and blessings.

Thanks boss.

Obere4u:


Happy birthday bro. Age gracefully and joyfully

Oga mi. Thanks.

EvilMetahuman:
Happy birthday unlimited22

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iheanyi40:
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Happy unlimited22. Unlimited blessings to you this year and beyond.

neezar:

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wishing you the best of life

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afrodoc2:
Happy unlimited22. Unlimited blessings to you this year and beyond.

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larride:


Happy birthday bro. I wish you long life and prosperity.

Thanks boss

nihilistjnr:


happy birthday chairman

Oga Nihilistjnr. Thanks for the advice and guidance last year. Thank you so much

humblesteve:

Happy birthday boss, wish you unlimited blessings and God given grace.

Thanks sir

popizaino:



Happy birthday bro.

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Coutinho14:
Happy birthday bro, wish you more life

Thank you so much boss

raumdeuter:


Happy birthday

Oga Dayo. Thanks a whole lot, boss.

When I tell you about shape shifters. Have a picture of ibime in your head.

This was what ibime said about john stones, the same one he's claiming to be a top defender that Pep used. The same John stones he called a scam

Ibime:


Omo, even if the guy is utter crap, I'll rather throway £2.5m on him than spend £40m on Stones.


I'm happy to avoid the Stones and Pogba transfers which would both be scams,

raumdeuter:
When I tell you about shape shifters. Have a picture of ibime in your head.

This was what ibime said about john stones, the same one he's claiming to be a top defender that Pep used. The same John stones he called a scam

Nonsense. My position on Stones is well known and often repeated. Don't act like you are revealing something new. I don't rate Stones as a pure defender same as my position on Ramos, Varane, Pique etc.

However I will not deny them a place in the top 20 in their position, nor say they don't belong in top teams. In the possession based teams they play in, they always have one of these types of defenders who are great on the ball but average on the basics of defending. Such players are not for Chelsea who require pure defenders, but I won't deny them their place at the top table in their positions.