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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 8:10pm On May 19, 2019
When you want to hype Pep using the fact that Spurs and Liverpool are in the UCL final, just remember Pep was sent parking by Poch...If Fergie was a failure all those years, shifting his pants to pounded by other English managers, we'll easily have pointed to two English teams in the finals other than United...
If you can't see that you're only highlighting the failures of Pep by constantly using Spurs as justification for his brilliance then you need Jesus...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 8:11pm On May 19, 2019
raumdeuter:
How many made the quarter finals under Ferguson?
So now quarter final is the criteria? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 8:12pm On May 19, 2019
patrickmuf:
When you want to hype Pep using the fact that Spurs and Liverpool are in the UCL final, just remember Pep was sent parking by Poch...If Fergie was a failure all those years, shifting his pants to pounded by other English managers, we'll easily have pointed to two English teams in the finals other than United...
If you can't see that you're only highlighting the failures of Pep by constantly using Spurs as justification for his brilliance then you need Jesus...
You dey mind? They want to use Pep failure against Fergie. What is stopping Pep from being one of the CL finalist?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:12pm On May 19, 2019
patrickmuf:
When you want to hype Pep using the fact that Spurs and Liverpool are in the UCL final, just remember Pep was sent parking by Poch...If Fergie was a failure all those years, shifting his pants to pounded by other English managers, we'll easily have pointed to two English teams in the finals other than United...
If you can't see that you're only highlighting the failures of Pep by constantly using Spurs as justification for his brilliance then you need Jesus...
Pep beat a team that finished 97points to the league and made back to back CL finals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:13pm On May 19, 2019
larride:
So now quarter final is the criteria? grin
The point is that the EPL this season was stronger than anyone ferguson played

If you dont believe, show us any season Ferguson won the league that was stronger than this
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 8:16pm On May 19, 2019
larride:
You dey mind? They want to use Pep failure against Fergie. What is stopping Pep from being one of the CL finalist?
I just weak...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 8:17pm On May 19, 2019
raumdeuter:
The point is that the EPL this season was stronger than anyone ferguson played
How? Because Pep wouldn’t get to the UCL final losing to a team like Spurs that’s 4th? grin

What stop Pep from being one of the finalist? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m):
raumdeuter:
Pep beat a team that finished 97points to the league and made back to back CL finals
The season Madrid won the league with 100 points and the one Atletico won against Barca, which is the toughest?
Don't forget the EPL has been decided on goal difference before so this your 1 point difference is just you guys trying to hype up Pep, fantastic season but we have seen others treat us to a fascinating end to the season...
Is the EPL still a local trophy?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by adisaaowala: 8:21pm On May 19, 2019
raumdeuter:
Pep beat a team that finished 97points to the league and made back to back CL finals
Which kain argument be this?

Why didn't pep beat them in the CL that matters most (Apari: 1956)

Why did he fail woefully like he has been doing ever since he left Barca?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by ManBeast: 8:21pm On May 19, 2019
Mehn, una dey try ooo..... since saturday abi nah sunday una still dey on dis matter, una go still continue till monday maybe tuesday too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m):
Dayo has managed to shift the goal post. He is now accusing folks of daring Pep to come and prove himself in England but same Dayo claimed the EPL was a local league and that the UCL is the Holy grail, in a couple of years, Klopp or any other coach will win the league and FA cup and Pep will win the UCL, then Dayo will be back with his gospel that the UCL is all and all...
If you like shout from now till tomorrow, whoever wins the UCL between Klopp or Poch has had a better season than Pep...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:25pm On May 19, 2019
patrickmuf:
The season Madrid won the league with 100 points and the one Atletico won against Barca, which is the toughest?
Don't forget the EPL has been decided on goal difference before so this your 1 point difference is just you guys trying to hype up Pep, fantastic season but we have seen others treat us to thrill us to a fascinating end to the season...
Is the EPL still a local trophy?
2 teams had over 95points which was the highest point ever till last yr When did Ferguson ever get that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:26pm On May 19, 2019
patrickmuf:
Dayo has managed to shift the goal post. He is noelw accusing folks of daring Pep to come and prove himself in England but same Dayo claimed the EPL was a local league and that the UCL is the Holy grail, in a couple of years, Klopp or any other coach will win the league and FA cup and Pep will win the UCL, then Dayo will be back with his gospel that the UCL is all and all...
If you like shout from now till tomorrow, IL whoever wins the UCL between Klopp or Poch has had a better season than Pep...
EPL fans told Pep to come and prove himself in the English league.

He came to the English league and destroyed the league back to back in a manner never seen before using the same tactics they said will never work

Pep doesnt need to come to the EPL to prove himself in the CL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by adisaaowala: 8:27pm On May 19, 2019
patrickmuf:
Dayo has managed to shift the goal post. He is noelw accusing folks of daring Pep to come and prove himself in England but same Dayo claimed the EPL was a local league and that the UCL is the Holy grail, in a couple of years, Klopp or any other coach will win the league and FA cup and Pep will win the UCL, then Dayo will be back with his gospel that the UCL is all and all...
If you like shout from now till tomorrow, IL whoever wins the UCL between Klopp or Poch has had a better season than Pep...
raumdeuter:
Oponu akinrada, Pep isnt a local coach, leave winning EPL to the likes of Conte nd Ranieri
After directly contradicting himself with the statement above, Peeps stopped taking him seriously on the PL issue...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:27pm On May 19, 2019
adisaaowala:
Which kain argument be this?

Why didn't pep beat them in the CL that matters most (Apari: 1956)

Why did he fail woefully like he has been doing ever since he left Barca?
Peps challenge was to prove himself in the English league according to EPL fans and even coaches like Mourinho

He is in the league and shitting on your league steady breaking all records
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 8:28pm On May 19, 2019
larride:
I can see your brain is on strike.

It’s not Ferguson fault that Pep is not good enough to win the league and still go ahead to challenge for the UCL.

Ferguson won the league 3 times in a row and those 3 times, 3 English team feature in the UCL semi final in a roll.

Ferguson was not just winning the league, he was mixing it with the big boys in the UCL which include 2 others from the League.

If anything, it means your Pep is a fraud.
You are making a disconcerted argument. Fergie has also won the league when he did not make it out of the UCL group stages and Liverpool have won the UC league despite finishing 5th in the league. In both cases, it shows the league was not as strong as it is today.

If Fergie got to the UCL final by beating an English team and winning the league. Credit to him. Problem is, it shows how weak the league was compared to this season where teams that City beat to the league and beat head to head in the league still made it to the UCL final. That shows those teams were no
Pushovers.

LOL. I told you to stick to politics.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:29pm On May 19, 2019
adisaaowala:
After directly contradicting himself with the statement above, Peeps stopped taking him seriously on the PL issue...
What challenge did you EPL fans give to Pep? All we were hearing was for Pep to come prove himself in England and he has come to do that

Pep didnt just win the EPL, he won it back to back in addition to sweeping all competitions in the country
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 8:32pm On May 19, 2019
larride:
How? Because Pep wouldn’t get to the UCL final losing to a team like Spurs that’s 4th? grin

What stop Pep from being one of the finalist? grin
Tottenham beat Ajax to get to the final. Liverpool beat Barcelona. They beat teams favoured over them.

It shows those teams were very good.

So for Pep to beat them hands down in the league. Shows how harder the league was.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pamcode(m): 8:33pm On May 19, 2019
Eruditor:
You should limit your reasoning power to politics. Every other thing is just claptrap. In 2007/08 United and CFC first and 2nd in the league faced themselves in the finals. So the only true competitor Fergie had was CFC.

In this season, the EPL has 2 finalists different from the one that won the league. It infers that there are stronger teams in the EPL now than there was in 2007/08 season.
Oh really. Only Liverpool went toe to toe with City, the others had to settle for the other two spots as early as February now compare to 07/08 where the United, Chelsea, Arsenal went toe to toe for the title and all three made it to the semis of the UCL.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 8:36pm On May 19, 2019
pamcode:
Oh really. Only Liverpool went toe to toe with City, the others had to settle for the other two spots as early as February now compare to 07/08 where the United, Chelsea, Arsenal went toe to toe for the title and all three made it to the semis of the UCL.
Arsenal did not make it. Liverpool did. But all 4 teams had < or = 87points.

This year, the league winner had 98points. Despite having 2 UCL finalists. So wining the league was no mean feat.

You are helping me make a strong case. Thanks.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Singapore1(m): 8:38pm On May 19, 2019
Dear God
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:39pm On May 19, 2019
Singapore1:
Dear God
Yes my son, why are you calling me?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 8:44pm On May 19, 2019
Eruditor:
You are making a disconcerted argument. Fergie has also won the league when he did not make it out of the UCL group stages and Liverpool have won the UC league despite finishing 5th in the league. In both cases, it shows the league was not as strong as it is today.

If Fergie got to the UCL final by beating an English team and winning the league. Credit to him. Problem is, it shows how weak the league was compared to this season where teams that City beat to the league and beat head to head in the league still made it to the UCL final. That shows those teams were no
Pushovers.

LOL. I told you to stick to politics.
You are a joker Elruditor.

So Pep was able to beat Spurs in the league home and away and the same Spurs dump Pep out of the UCL?

If Pep beat Spurs home and away in the league, what stop him from beating them in the UCL also and be among one of the finalist?

Fergie was not just winning the league, he was beating the EPL team he faced in the UCL also. It’s not that the EPL was weaker, it was because Fergie was BETTER which can’t be said about Pep.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 8:45pm On May 19, 2019
raumdeuter:
Salah did what no African has done before score 30 goals a season. Salah has now topped the EPL chart 2 seasons in a row
Should we still wait for 3 seasons or its 2 seasons now?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 8:47pm On May 19, 2019
Eruditor:
Arsenal did not make it. Liverpool did. But all 4 teams had < or = 87points.

This year, the league winner had 98points. Despite having 2 UCL finalists. So wining the league was no mean feat.

You are helping me make a strong case. Thanks.
The same Spurs that ended the season 27pts behind City? That’s the competition? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 8:49pm On May 19, 2019
larride:
You are a joker Elruditor.

So Pep was able to beat Spurs in the league home and away and the same Spurs dump Pep out of the UCL?

If Pep beat Spurs home and away in the league, what stop him from beating them in the UCL also and be among one of the finalist?

Fergie was not just winning the league, he was beating the EPL team he faced in the UCL also. It’s not that the EPL was weaker, it was because Fergie was BETTER which can’t be said about Pep.
Maybe Tottenham used a different team in the chmapions league shocked
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 8:51pm On May 19, 2019
eph12:
Maybe Tottenham used a different team in the chmapions league shocked
It seems so. Or maybe just maybe the EPL is now greater than the UCL.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 8:52pm On May 19, 2019
larride:
You are a joker Elruditor.

So Pep was able to beat Spurs in the league home and away and the same Spurs dump Pep out of the UCL?

If Pep beat Spurs home and away in the league, what stop him from beating them in the UCL also and be among one of the finalist?

Fergie was not just winning the league, he was beating the EPL team he faced in the UCL also. It’s not that the EPL was weaker, it was because Fergie was BETTER which can’t be said about Pep.
What was the highest point any team Ferguson beat in the league ever got

Did Ferguson ever beat a team that made 90 league points to the league? Thats what Pep did
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 8:54pm On May 19, 2019
TLona1:
I don't care about all these calculations.

If you were a coach and you sold 9 players in your team, what would you do to fill those spaces?
The money mantra of a thing off me most times.
If the money they claim is vital to success then man united should naturally been doing better post fergie's era since investments were also made to the team more than fergie himself was there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 8:55pm On May 19, 2019
raumdeuter:
What was the highest point any team Ferguson beat in the league ever got

Did Ferguson ever beat a team that made 90 league points to the league? Thats what Pep did
Pep beat Liverpool in the UCL?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 8:55pm On May 19, 2019
patrickmuf:
When you want to hype Pep using the fact that Spurs and Liverpool are in the UCL final, just remember Pep was sent parking by Poch...If Fergie was a failure all those years, shifting his pants to pounded by other English managers, we'll easily have pointed to two English teams in the finals other than United...
If you can't see that you're only highlighting the failures of Pep by constantly using Spurs as justification for his brilliance then you need Jesus...
please stop this..
pep already has jesus
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Spy360(m): 8:59pm On May 19, 2019
TLona1:
You may be right about the Alex Ferguson part but where I don't agree with you is tge finance part.

Pep saw that players like Zabaleta, Hart, Nasri, Yaya Toure, Kolarov, Clichy etc couldn't fit to his style, he then sold and replaced them with new ones and we're seeing the results.

What is the crime is selling players and replacing them? Y'all are making it look so bad.. That's the problem I have.
There is no crime in selling and replacing players. Just that not every coach has such luxury. For example, Emery would love to sell the entire back line of Arsenal and get new ones. But we know it won't happen.
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