sod09:
I thought he's an American

Dude is British, plus the way he pronounce words and references he makes are so English. He said baby moms... WTF is that

Tomori, Mount, Abraham.....three of our youngsters that would play in the Playoff final. They are not just regulars for their clubs, they have played exceedingly well this season. But the parent club would keep spending big on wastes like DW6, Bakayoko, Zappacosta, Giroud. I weak!

PietroRick:
that 2nd leg liverpool team? Come on.
Lmao. D

Yup even that team. The thing is when people think of Barcelona, we tend to look at them through rose tinted glasses. These crop are not as good as yesteryears and the good ones bar Messi have declined.

PietroRick:
that 2nd leg liverpool team? Come on.
Lmao.

Suarez has only scored 2 goals in 2 seasons of CL
Vidal Rakitic Lenglet Semedo/Sergi Roberto, terStergen are they really better than their liverpool opponent? How many of them will make the liverpool team

If Jodi Alba is better than Robertson it will be marginal

Greatihex:
you have a point, but believe me, if Mourinho or Simeone trains a team that dope, they will win trophies.

And, i hate that, Rudiger is the fastest player at Chelsea "

Inferiority complex will send you to your grave.

Nihilist that you said has a point was saying exactly the same thing I posted but because of your poor education and lack of understanding

2 similar points. To you one has a point and the other

Is claiming high IQ and education

Look I'm not responsible for your current misfortune in life look further for the source of your problems

PietroRick:
you are taking examples from the 2 extremes to argue and it's disingenuous.
No need to compare a normal messi with an enhanced Adama Traore.
The point of this whole discussion is what difference of PEDs will have on footballers of largely similar skill level.
And a vast majority of professional footballers in the top 5 leagues for example are under the gausian curve dome.
You cannot be arguing this case with outliers from either side of the graph. It's mischievous

Use of PEDs in this situation cannot be taken to just not count. If people use PEDs.
The gulf does not have to be wider than gulf of Mexico.


A normal kdb will not get anywhere close to a doped pogba for example

First the nature of football you don't have to run most of the time. You only run when the ball comes around you. The ball only comes around you about 20% of the game time

Professional footballers train daily and if you train daily without drugs there's no big deal in sprinting for maximum of 30 seconds every 5 to 10 minutes while jogging the rest of the game

If football goes beyond 2hrs that's when the effect of endurance boosting drugs can make you run faster

Smarter tactics in football ensures that you make the ball do the running.
Football is a mainly decision making sport, training daily at pro level gives you the necessary fitness you need.
Hardly will you see a defender take a ball and try to outrun everyone on the field. If that's the main skill needed Usain Bolt will not fail

Dybala is a good footballer, if he takes PED for a week will he make better decisions on the ball than messi? At least we are not taking examples from 2 ends of the spectrum here

Huddersfield ran the 6th longest in the EPL they still finished below Cardiff

It's called "Performance Enhancing Drugs" for a reason.

Make I stop there.

nihilistjnr:


funny enough I was listening to Kris Boyd, the kilmarnock striker talking about Steve Clarke, the new Scotland manager, only 2 days ago

He said that Steve Clarke would tell his players whenever they played a good team that if they can't match their opponents in skill, they should match them in workrate.....

no wonder Celtic win the league every year...see team talk ffs

Lol all Celtic would have to do is trick them out and pass through their gra gra.

elrony:
It's called "Performance Enhancing Drugs" for a reason.

Make I stop there.

While PEDs would improve performance in most sports there is a difference in levels of this between sports that depend majorly on athleticism and power, like sprinting, cycling, swimming and those that greatly depend on skill like soccer, basketball.

PED use in football definitely exists but there are so many aspects of the game that PEDs can’t affect that it’s utility can’t be compared to what it does in other sports.
It won’t improve your dribbling, ball control, passing accuracy, vision, or awareness.
It won’t build team spirit or improve the coach’s tactics.

raumdeuter:


Professional footballers train daily and if you train daily without drugs

Ignorant soul. Go and ask any professional footballer from Ogbomosho about creatine monohydrate, mega men sport or other stuff pros use to remain fit throughout the season.

airmark:


Ignorant soul. Go and ask any professional footballer from Ogbomosho about creatine monohydrate, mega men sport or other stuff pros use to remain fit throughout the season.

This your illiteracy you are peddling all over from jeun jeun chop money football you played in your backwater village

raumdeuter:


This your illiteracy you are peddling all over from jeun jeun chop money football you played in your backwater village

You keep on disgracing yourself here. You should be thanking me for correcting you on things you foolishly thought you know.

afrodoc2:


While PEDs would improve performance in most sports there is a difference in levels of this between sports that depend majorly on athleticism and power, like sprinting, cycling, swimming and those that greatly depend on skill like soccer, basketball.

PED use in football definitely exists but there are so many aspects of the game that PEDs can’t affect that it’s utility can’t be compared to what it does in other sports.
It won’t improve your dribbling, ball control, passing accuracy, vision, or awareness.
It won’t build team spirit or improve the coach’s tactics.

Thats what the illiterate airmark is not understanding

Cycling swimming, tracks weightlifting are all individual sports that depend 80% on physical abilities of the 1 athlete.

PEDs make you stronger but strenght is not one of the main skills needed for football. In a football field, you don't run all the time there is enough time to catch your breath and recover

This guy below was never considered one of the best footballers at anytime and see as he be like Samson

airmark:


You keep on disgracing yourself here. You should be thanking me for correcting you on things you foolishly thought you know.

Yet you cannot take enough PEDs to play ordinary Naija league never mind Malta league even if na fifth division

raumdeuter:


PEDs make you stronger but strenght is not one of the main skills needed for football. In a football field, you don't run all the time there is enough time to catch your breath and recover

Foolishness, go and ask professional clubs the reason they have fitness trainers. Go and ask why and what we call sport nutrition.

To you, strength/stamina is not essential in football. This is the most foolish view I read this year.

airmark:




Foolishness, go and ask professional clubs the reason they have fitness trainers. Go and ask why and what we call sport nutrition.

To you, strength/stamina is not essential in football. This is the most foolish view I read this year.

Why do I have this feeling you are intentionally misinterpreting Dayo?

larride:


Why do I have this feeling you are intentionally misinterpreting Dayo?

His foolishness is so unique that people even think its intentional
You cant believe someone will be this foolish? I didnt believe it too until I saw airmark

If strength in football is quite undermined

Why does performance tends 2 decline with age


Just wondering?

Data from last world cup group stage

The teams that ran the longest and the ones in bold were those eliminated by end of groups

8 out of 11 top running teams were eliminated

Segedinho:
If strength in football is quite undermined
Why does performance tends 2 decline with age
Just wondering?

Most pro footballers train enough to be able to do what is needed on the field.

Look at a team like Barcelona/Spain and how they were able to dominate football with Pique, Busquets, Xavi Iniesta Messi who are not known for being strong or hard runners

raumdeuter:


Thats what the illiterate airmark is not understanding

Cycling swimming, tracks weightlifting are all individual sports that depend 80% on physical abilities of the 1 athlete.

PEDs make you stronger but strenght is not one of the main skills needed for football. In a football field, you don't run all the time there is enough time to catch your breath and recover

This guy below was never considered one of the best footballers at anytime and see as he be like Samson

In as much as u have got a point but dont u think that Zidane or other incredible players would have still been playing, and still be on d spotlight due 2 d fact that other attributes like sight .dribbles nd skills are still intact except strength? ?


when u are tired ..u hardly win possesions and how does one performs magic without d ball?.
I blv PED is actually important in all facet of d game...strenghts supercedes others. .

raumdeuter:


Most pro footballers train enough to be able to do what is needed on the field.

Look at a team like Barcelona/Spain and how they were able to dominate football with Pique, Busquets, Xavi Iniesta Messi who are not known for being strong or hard runners

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We all are aware of training and wether u like it or not..the more u sprint the more u loose strenght and d more ur performances decline. ....here comes the effect of PED...

raumdeuter:
Data from last world cup group stage

The teams that ran the longest and the ones in bold were those eliminated by end of groups

8 out of 11 top running teams were eliminated

Messi without PED will always be worse than Messi with PED as the game progresses.

Ur comparison using dat yardstick is like organising a fight bw myself (wt PED)vs Anthony joshua

Segedinho:



Messi without PED will always be worse than Messi with PED as the game progresses.

Ur comparison using dat yardstick is like organising a fight bw myself (wt PED)vs Anthony joshua

In the world cup stats I showed you up there. Germany S.Korea, Mexico and Sweden were in the same group, Which one ran more and which one qualified, which one is you and which one is Anthony Joshua

Segedinho:
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We all are aware of training and wether u like it or not..the more u sprint the more u loose strenght and d more ur performances decline. ....here comes the effect of PED...

How many times does an average footballer sprint in a 90mins match? The regular training without PED that an aerage footballer takes is enough to do what is needed in football

Valencia is like the fastest Man Utd player, Rudiger is the fastest in Chelsea what is the effect of that speed when in a game they barely have to run at full speed

raumdeuter:


In the world cup stats I showed you up there. Germany S.Korea, Mexico and Sweden were in the same group, Which one ran more and which one qualified, which one is you and which one is Anthony Joshua

Football isn't only based on running....
It is called PED not RED (r-running)
PED gvs u more strenght wch is the more essential in football...otherwise zidane or others would still be playing by now...

"According to FIFA, some 30,000 tests are carried out on players each year. The organization insists that no other sport is monitored for doping as closely and claims that only 0.24 percent of the samples taken in 2015 came back positive. In just 78 cases, FIFA says, were players found to have taken banned substances.

Just 78? WADA counts 149, almost twice as many. So who miscounted? It likely wasn't WADA. It seems more probable that players who tested positive weren't banned in accordance with the rules.

The WADA document indicates that five players tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in UEFA competitions. One professional player was found to have taken dexamethasone, a cortisone preparation that is banned in competition because it increases concentration and speeds recovery. But there were no consequences meted out to the player.

When contacted, UEFA said that the player "bore no fault" because the substance was from an injection "earlier in the season." Case closed.

In Mexico, a number of players tested positive in 2015, a total of 33 cases. All of the football players were found to have taken clenbuterol, a substance that builds up muscle mass and is primarily used by bodybuilders.

What is going on in Mexico? The country's football association declined to respond to requests for comment. But there was a similar instance in 2011, when five Mexican players tested positive for clenbuterol. None of the players were disciplined and the Mexican Football Federation claimed that clenbuterol is included in cattle feed and that the players must have eaten meat contaminated with the substance. The athletes, the federation claimed, were innocent.

Mitigating Factor

The English Football Association likewise seems to have a distinctive perspective on what constitutes doping and what does not. In 2015, nine players in England tested positive for doping. Two had taken the asthma medication salbutamol, one took amphetamines, another ecstasy. In one case, the banned substance isn't listed and in four cases, players had used cocaine.

According to the FA, three players received doping warnings in 2015, but none were penalized. The FA didn't comment on the other six cases found by WADA.

In English football, however, cocaine and hashish are considered "social drugs." If professionals didn't use the drug on match days, they don't necessarily have anything to fear. One of the players discovered to have used cocaine in 2015, for example, wasn't punished because his use of the drug following a death in the family was seen as a mitigating factor.

Top players in the English Premier League have tough schedules. They play for their club in the national league, in two cup competitions and in the Champions League -- with some players also playing for their national squads. Stars in the Bundesliga, Germany's professional league, also play between 60 and 70 matches per season.

In contrast to track-and-field athletes or swimmers, professional football players also need to prove themselves against their teammates in practice to even get playing time on the weekend. Is all of that even possible without chemical assistance?"

raumdeuter:


How many times does an average footballer sprint in a 90mins match? The regular training without PED that an aerage footballer takes is enough to do what is needed in football

Valencia is like the fastest Man Utd player, Rudiger is the fastest in Chelsea what is the effect of that speed when in a game they barely have to run at full speed

what is d effect of PED does it mks u run faster....it gIves u strength above ur original self...
Ur performance is expected 2 decline as d game progresses
Valencia or rudiger can run faster isn't a yardstick they are good players....skills..ball recovery and other good attributes of a good player is based on strenght. .once this strength reduces.ur performance tends 2 decline ...so it logical 2 say PED affects dribbles..recoveries..passes...nd so many other skills cos these skillsets depends on strenght

larride:


Why do I have this feeling you are intentionally misinterpreting Dayo?

No misinterpretation here. If you don't have strength/stamina how do you use your skills optimally in a football match?

airmark:


No misinterpretation here. If you don't have strength/stamina how do you use your skills optimally in a football match?

That is were they are getting it wrong...
Oga thinks PED is all about running

Segedinho:
what is d effect of PED does it mks u run faster....it gIves u strength above ur original self...
Ur performance is expected 2 decline as d game progresses
Valencia or rudiger can run faster isn't a yardstick they are good players....skills..ball recovery and other good attributes of a good player is based on strenght. .once this strength reduces.ur performance tends 2 decline ...so it logical 2 say PED affects dribbles..recoveries..passes...nd so many other skills cos these skillsets depends on strenght

Skills ball recovery are more dependent on intelligence than on strenght.

raumdeuter:


Skills ball recovery are more dependent on intelligence than on strenght.

Lol, are you trolling or what, if you don't have strength you'll just be mehh, even with you skills to pass ball go be like heavy task, you sure say you play ball while growing up so? or you just be keeper?