₦airaland Forum

GidiWoodsMan:
The senators and reps actually pushed a bill for state police around that period when the useless 'transmission' IG was harrassing Melaye and one other rep like that.

Maybe Buhari has just signed-off on that particular bill but sadly this article does not give enough details.

D article didn't give details because there are no details. Buhari didn't sign off d bill. Yes they toyed with d idea but d house of rep rejected d bill while d senate recommended putting it thru a public hearing. Am not aware that there's a bill on state police from NASS signed by d president

It's not yet constitutional

GadgetHunter:
why una dey complain for everything? He do na waste of time he no do na dullard? Wah happen!!!!

He is right. There is a police act which recognises d police as federal. 4u to have state police, d president just can't unilaterally "approve" state police. It has 2go thru d national assembly so that there will b laws 2 that effect. Right now d constitution doesn't recognise state police& d president isn't above d constitution 2 change a section of d constitution by "approval".

johnkay1:
Great!
It'll definitely improve the security
Governors will now gain more power and have control over their state security.

But elections will become more bloody.

It will be bloody, if it remains the only way for politicians & their supporters to survive.

Refer to other nations that has adopted state police.

It is quite disheartening reading the comments of so called educated Nigerians. No wher in the article did Buhari approve state police but even if he did, he doesn’t have the power. Buhari approving state police is ilike me writing you a Cheque for $1m when I do not have the money in my account. You can celebrate that I gave you a cheque for $1m. But reality will hit you when you present the cheque at the bank.


You cannot give what you do not have, this is why IF YOU READ PROPERLY, Buhari never said anywhere in that article he will implement state police......because he doesn’t have the power to!


Like I have also said, state police means the end of Fulani herdsmen, Do you think a National Assembly with a northern majority are going to approve this? Do you think a National Assembly with a northern majority are going to approve state police when these are the poorest states in the country? Where will they get money for state police? Do you honestly think the north are going to give up control of internal security? Do you think the north is going to allow the east with all the talk of secession to have armed officers that are not controlled by them?

You’ve been played by nation newspapers and they’ve got the hits they want out of this clever manipulation of what really happened ......Buhari never said he wants state police and if he did, he is only playing to the gallery because he doesn’t have the power.

Saao:
No legal backing. More like a waste of time

Re: Buhari Approves State, LG Police by yemmight(m): 3:08pm
Whatever it is, it has to come through National assembly.
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lexy2014:
He is right. There is a police act which recognises d police as federal. 4u to have state police, d president just can't unilaterally "approve" state police. It has 2go thru d national assembly so that there will b laws 2 that effect. Right now d constitution doesn't recognise state police& d president isn't above d constitution 2 change a section of d constitution by "approval".

You have sense. PMB can't wake up on morning and ulter Constitutional provisions with a fiat. We are no longer in a Military regime. Hence, the phrase approval. Will connotes he has approved the recommendation for State/LG police which has become a dire need because of the current security situation in the country.

This will now proceed to the next stage which entails a bill been sent to the NA assembly and same will be passed by 2/3 of the 36 states.

The issue is will the state houses approve LG autonomous policing?

That is what we should be discussing as proactive youths of our great country.

It's still a long walk to freedom, but it's my believe we will get there.

An act will need to spell out their respective criminal jurisdiction and powers.

lexy2014:
He is right. There is a police act which recognises d police as federal. 4u to have state police, d president just can't unilaterally "approve" state police. It has 2go thru d national assembly so that there will b laws 2 that effect. Right now d constitution doesn't recognise state police& d president isn't above d constitution 2 change a section of d constitution by "approval".

that is why the election of principal officers for the national assembly must not be scuttled this time around. The opposition won't mind that those who will be a stumbling block to policies be elected for them to score cheap political points.

it's left to Nigerians whether to allow or not charlatans to run the legislature

Damentia:
Misplaced priority.....their are more important things to us as a nation than state police, while can't this administration just focus on reviving the economy.

misplaced reasoning

specter:
You have sense. PMB can't wake up on morning and ulter Constitutional provisions with a fiat. We are no longer in a Military regime. Hence, the phrase approval. Will connotes he has approved the recommendation for State/LG police which has become a dire need because of the current security situation in the country.

This will now proceed to the next stage which entails a bill been sent to the NA assembly and same will be passed by 2/3 of the 36 states.

The issue is will the state houses approve LG autonomous policing?

That is what we should be discussing as proactive youths of our great country.

It's still a long walk to freedom, but it's my believe we will get there.

An act will need to spell out their respective criminal jurisdiction and powers.

and this is also when we will know whether those clamouring for restructuring are truly serious or not. Some months back many house of rep members mainly from pdp came out to the public to declare that they are ready to pass any bill for restructuring

Now we will see whether they were joking or not. It will also be nice to hear from atiku and his gang using restructuring as campaign tools

specter:
You have sense. PMB can't wake up on morning and ulter Constitutional provisions with a fiat. We are no longer in a Military regime. Hence, the phrase approval. Will connotes he has approved the recommendation for State/LG police which has become a dire need because of the current security situation in the country.

This will now proceed to the next stage which entails a bill been sent to the NA assembly and same will be passed by 2/3 of the 36 states.

The issue is will the state houses approve LG autonomous policing?

That is what we should be discussing as proactive youths of our great country.

It's still a long walk to freedom, but it's my believe we will get there.

An act will need to spell out their respective criminal jurisdiction and powers.

Tnx 4 ur input. Ur last statement is absolutely on point as it is a complete summary 4 anyone who needs 2b enlightened on d issue

Goke7:
that is why the election of principal officers for the national assembly must not be scuttled this time around. The opposition won't mind that those who will be a stumbling block to policies be elected for them to score cheap political points.

it's left to Nigerians whether to allow or not charlatans to run the legislature

Am not aware of a time when charlatans ran d NASS. If ever they did, I don't no what has changed cos d culture in NASS hasn't changed since 1999.

There was a bill on d floor of d senate and d house of rep 4 state and community police in 2018/2019. D bill wasn't sponsored by d executive. It was sponsored by d legislators. So ur claim of "being a stumbling block to policies be elected for them to score cheap political points", doesn't arise

lexy2014:
Am not aware of a time when charlatans ran d NASS. If ever they did, I don't no what has changed cos d culture in NASS hasn't changed since 1999.

There was a bill on d floor of d senate and d house of rep 4 state and community police in 2018/2019. D bill wasn't sponsored by d executive. It was sponsored by d legislators. So ur claim of "being a stumbling block to policies be elected for them to score cheap political points", doesn't arise

Right, so let's see how the next legislature will continue from there especially the returnees.

Goke7:
Right, so let's see how the next legislature will continue from there especially the returnees.

That will b good

Fake news.

NaMeAboki:
State police will enforce state laws and federal police will enforce federal laws.
Just pray, you, your family and friends do not fall on the wrong side of your governor - thats all am saying.

And there will be no federal oversight? Federal ministry of justice, the supreme court? National assembly? I doubt it my friend.
There was a case in the US in Little Rock Arkansas when the president of United states had to send security forces to escort nine black students to school.
If similar thing should happen in Nigeria, I can assure you the state also will not have the final say in the matter.

isthatso:
The comments in this section just shows how poorly educated Nigerians are. Misleading headline aside, Nowhere in that article did it say Buhari approved state police. It was merely a recommendation.

There will never be state police because that will mean the end of Fulani herdsmen

Most of them are zombie esp the guy. They are ready to latch unto anything to prove their master is working. Even in the recommendation, there's no mention of state police. The Nation is a propaganda newspaper who thrive in deception. The recommendations have to do with police brutality and national human rights but zombies took the headlines and started polluting the thread with zombiism

States that are still struggling to pay civil servants.

lexy2014:
D article didn't give details because there are no details. Buhari didn't sign off d bill. Yes they toyed with d idea but d house of rep rejected d bill while d senate recommended putting it thru a public hearing. Am not aware that there's a bill on state police from NASS signed by d president

Good job man. But does it not show the level of desperation in this country that people did not even bother to check the body of the news? It shows how much there's a disconnect between govts (in)actions and the people's yearnings. It's very painful.

Buckubuck:
Most of them are zombie esp the guy. They are ready to latch unto anything to prove their master is working. Even in the recommendation, there's no mention of state police. The Nation is a propaganda newspaper who thrive in deception. The recommendations have to do with police brutality and national human rights but zombies took the headlines and started polluting the thread with zombiism

hold it, have you check other media outlets to confirm the story? even the presidential spokesman has it on his social media accounts.

That you dislike the President does not mean you should post out of reason.

In summary, you are lying. State Police was mentioned. I know you are pained!

lexy2014:
He is right. There is a police act which recognises d police as federal. 4u to have state police, d president just can't unilaterally "approve" state police. It has 2go thru d national assembly so that there will b laws 2 that effect. Right now d constitution doesn't recognise state police& d president isn't above d constitution 2 change a section of d constitution by "approval".

Mr when they say the president has sign a bill into law that means, that particular bill has gone through (passed by) the NASS before it’ll return to the presidency to assent to it after which it’ll become a law, so the headline said it has been signed into law that means the NASS has already passed it, what you’re saying sef is different from wat that other person was talking about, so I no dey understand una sometimes

Goke7:
hold it, have you check other media outlets to confirm the story? even the presidential spokesman has it on his social media accounts.

That you dislike the President does not mean you should post out of reason.

In summary, you are lying. State Police was mentioned. I know you are pained!

I agree with you. I don't like the president. He does not come across as having the capacity to lead Nigeria to the dreams and aspirations of 21st century citizens. You're also correct. State police was mentioned part of the recommendations.
But you will also agree that a recommendation by a panel does not constitute an approval, moreso, that headline is misleading. That panel was constituted to review human rights abuses by the police. The main thrust their work is not state police creation. As lexy2004 mentioned, state police can't be created by executive fiat. You should not be too blind to see that the Nation is trying to put words the president's mouth.
That the aide posted it does not make it correct. We've seen it happen multiple times were aides post blatant lies.

Goke7:
NO, cos they can no longer pass the buck to Abuja. It will be evident to all that the Governors and states govt are the real fraud in Nigeria there by making folks to take state Govt elections more seriously

I feel your point boss

Buckubuck:
Most of them are zombie esp the guy. They are ready to latch unto anything to prove their master is working. Even in the recommendation, there's no mention of state police. The Nation is a propaganda newspaper who thrive in deception. The recommendations have to do with police brutality and national human rights but zombies took the headlines and started polluting the thread with zombiism

na dem

ajl:
Lie. The same federal government will come out to deny this. Though I wish they would not.

They just did.

Buckubuck:
I agree with you. I don't like the president. He does not come across as having the capacity to lead Nigeria to the dreams and aspirations of 21st century citizens. You're also correct. State police was mentioned part of the recommendations.
But you will also agree that a recommendation by a panel does not constitute an approval, moreso, that headline is misleading. That panel was constituted to review human rights abuses by the police. The main thrust their work is not state police creation. As lexy2004 mentioned, state police can't be created by executive fiat. You should not be too blind to see that the Nation is trying to put words the president's mouth.
That the aide posted it does not make it correct. We've seen it happen multiple times were aides post blatant lies.

You keep referring to the Nation, are they the only ones who publish it? Did you check out other media outlets and who said state police will be created by executive fiat. Some of you guys are the ones causing confusion allowing the mischief makers to misinform others. The news was very clear from the onset that the cjn was charged with coming out with plans of implementation within 3 months. This is what came out as news which was a press release and was posted by the Presidential spokesman. That the President gave the order was what folks was commending him for especially with his perceived stand against the idea of state police before now.

Truth is something is in the offing especially with the new NFIU guidelines as regards local government funds which already the Governors are kicking against which is obvious. You can have your opinions but the reactions today has shown me that the proponents of restructuring don't really want it. Simple

Fake news Mr President didn't approve state,LG police,.......when they are is a bill that as been already pass to law on grand (Nigeria peace corps)

Goke7:
You keep referring to the Nation, are they the only ones who publish it? Did you check out other media outlets and who said state police will be created by executive fiat. Some of you guys are the ones causing confusion allowing the mischief makers to misinform others. The news was very clear from the onset that the cjn was charged with coming out with plans of implementation within 3 months. This is what came out as news which was a press release and was posted by the Presidential spokesman. That the President gave the order was what folks was commending him for especially with his perceived stand against the idea of state police before now.

Truth is something is in the offing especially with the new NFIU guidelines as regards local government funds which already the Governors are kicking against which is obvious. You can have your opinions but the reactions today has shown me that the proponents of restructuring don't really want it. Simple

The CJN? Are you sure we're talking abt the same thing? What's the CJN's business with state police and again, the president can't send the CJN on any assignment as it's against the separation of powers. The NFIU guidelines was simply implementing the fiscal responsibility bill and the constitution which our politicians have flagrantly disobeyed on the altar of politics. The joint local govt account as always been illegal. Tinubu started it in a bid to implement his LCDA and other govs bought into it thereby bastardising LGAs and turning the chairmen to sitting ducks. The NFIU move is a good step but it has nothing to do with restructuring.

Kabir2Mohammad:
Hopefully state police will address shortage of manpower
bedevilling NPF and failure of states to pay them on time
will jeopardize our wellbeing because armed men will not
tolerate work without pay

Thank you. Governors will now be forced to accountably use the huge security votes they receive.