Altrarecords:


Dude you still don't get my point. Am not saying mobile games are better or even on par with consoles. What am saying is devs can indeed create games that looks better than a console game from last gen on a flagship of today.

The tech is there but they aren't pushing the boundaries

You talked about uncharted but do you know there's a game called uncharted golden abyss developed for vita? Now if the vita can get its own uncharted game which looks very good and comparable to the console games then why can't the galaxy s10 produce same caliber of game but with vastly superior graphics and performance?

Because the vita cpu/GPU was customized not your native mobile GPU and there's more to game than just the cpu/gpu such as the dedicated vRam in the ps vita that processes things like anti-aliasing. For example in uncharted golden abyss u mentioned whenever drake gets into water his clothes becomes wet that's insane and also the way drake character behaves whenever he is motionless or standing still. He also happens to have complex animations like drake's facial expression, enemies reactions all possible because of the separate vRam the vita has about 128 ram I believe while the ps3 has about 258 which isn't bad for the vita and also android has an operating system that drags everything down on them by eating up too much ram and as they get updated more the more ram it requires. And u can't compare a dedicated portable gaming console to mobile phones. Just because mobile phone has high resolutions with the likes of asphalt 9 doesn't mean it can handle high end ps3 games but yes it may handle some vita games like say fifa or the rayman ports but not the most prolific games like killzone mercenary though since mobile has no vRam for anti-aliasing. Am sorry I don't know how to make u understand what am trying to say.

sammyfrosh:


It's not even about playing valor or no valor games on their mobile devices it's their choice but the thing that pains me the most is some guys saying asphalt 9 has better graphics than need for speed on the ps3. I mean that's atrocious and ignorant. Some even go to the extent of saying their mobile phones have surpass ps3 levels by producing better graphics/ high profile games and now are on ps4 level cause of fortnite and pubg as if that's the only games on mobile phones.

Lol. If you ask me a good gaming system is the best. As for comparing mobile to ps3 that's complete ignorance.

sammyfrosh:



Because the vita cpu/GPU was customized not your native mobile GPU and there's more to game than just the cpu/gpu such as the dedicated vRam in the ps vita that processes things like anti-aliasing. For example in uncharted golden abyss u mentioned whenever drake gets into water his clothes becomes wet that's insane. He also happens to have complex animations like drake's facial expression, enemies reactions all possible because of the separate vRam the vita has about 128 gram I believe why the ps3 has about 258 which isn't bad for the vita and also android has an operating system that drags everything down on them by eating up too much ram and as they get updated more the more ram it requires. And u can't compared a dedicated portable gaming console to mobile phones. Just because mobile phone has high resolutions doesn't mean it can handle high ps3 games but yes it may handle some vita games like say fifa or the rayman ports but not the most prolific games like killzone mercenary though since mobile has no vRam for anti-aliasing. Am sorry I don't know how to make u understand what am trying to say.

Wait u are seriously arguing that the vita can outperform a galaxy s10 when it comes to gaming? Are u fucking serious?


Say if two devs were given unlimited budget to make a game for vita using its full capabilities and a galaxy s10 also using its full capabilities no holds barred

You are telling me that the vita game would come out on top overall?

Is that the joke you are selling?

sammyfrosh:
guy repeat after me mobile gamers are no gamers they are just casual gamers with free console wannabe games lots of micro transactions and don’t let me start with the os they run on which requires half the phones ram to run smoothly. Eeeewwww

i wont argue with u anymore...this post just showed me u arent worth it

Altrarecords:


Wait u are seriously arguing that the vita can outperform a galaxy s10 when it comes to gaming? Are u fucking serious?


Say if two devs were given unlimited budget to make a game for vita using its full capabilities and a galaxy s10 also using its full capabilities no holds barred

You are telling me that the vita game would come out on top overall?

Is that the joke you are selling?

The vita (a.k.a sony's forgotten son) is still a mobile cpu/GPU Underhood and it's 7 years old compared to the s10 for f^ck sake but the advantages it has is that it's a dedicated portable console with vRam and gaming capabilities in mind which mobile phone isn't.

Compare the s10 to the switch not the vita cause that 6 years old console is far inferior to the ps360 and it's a mobile chips since Sony themselves can't fix a ps3 chips in it cause of space and overheating issues.

And I have played very high end game on the vita but the truth is nothing on mobile phones touched it most prolific ones.

The ps vita is like a ps2.7 not because it's almost as powerful as the ps3 in raw power but because it also have a vram, a light OS, customized chips that's why developers are able to develop close to ps3 graphics for it.

Yes it's true that a s10 has a better CPU/GPU than the vita but does it have a vRam and what about the android operating system that requires rams to run everything even in the background this are the things which happens to drag android phones down a lot.

MobileGees:


I don't get your point because you were talking about piracy being the reason most games don't come to Android and I'm telling it's a blantant lie

yes...most mobile games at most cost like 4k naira to buy...also quite easy to pirate...
Ur average pc game costs a lot more...plus you may even end up paying for premium access to download updates and stuff...
Some pc and console games also require monthly payments to play...this cant work on mobile

MobileGees:


Lol viewed by gaming platform? Why would anyone want to stream an adventure game?
The only way to determine if something is trending is if it's being talked on most blogs


Check Reddit gaming forum or any gaming blogs you know you'd know PUBG Fortnite isn't trending shit


You know nothing about gaming, I can't argue with you.



All I'm trying to say is if PUBG and Fortnite was really trending they have at least numerous nominations for awards

games have so many streamers on twitch and other streaming platforms with so many views and you say it isnt trending?
And who told you blogs arent talking about pubg and fortnite...blogs talk about updates and features to be added whereas most of these games u mentioning only get talked about b4 they are released and forgotten afterwards...

Baddestguyp:
i wont argue with u anymore...this post just showed me u arent worth it

Your choice

sammyfrosh:
maybe when mobile phones start coming with physical buttons and real games not candy crush types or 5 minutes racing games like asphalt 9 with no open world environment and no stupid micro transactions then it will start making sense.

lol, you know nothing...
Lemme ask you this? When it comes to aiming for shooter games which is better in order?

My answer is this
1) mouse and keyboard
2) touchscreem
3) gamepad

If u have gamed on all platforms you'll agree with me...controllers arent as good at aiming as mobile phones so no need for physical button except as triggers...
I'd rather use a mouse
Controllers only better for games like soccer

Besides a lot of mobile gamers now use gyroscope or claw (3 or 4 fingers or more) to game

Micro transactions in mobile games arent stupid...they are here to stay and are working for both devs and players except silly companies like gameloft that make their games play to win

Baddestguyp:
lol, you know nothing...
Lemme ask you this? When it comes to aiming for shooter games which is better in order?

My answer is this
1) mouse and keyboard
2) touchscreem
3) gamepad

If u have gamed on all platforms you'll agree with me...controllers arent as good at aiming as mobile phones so no need for physical button except as triggers...
I'd rather use a mouse

Besides a lot of mobile gamers now use gyroscope or claw (3 or 4 fingers or more) to game

Micro transactions in mobile games arent stupid...they are here to stay and are working for both devs and players except silly companies like gameloft that make their games play to win

Was it only shooters u know? That's all u lots been all shouting up and down what about playing something like God of war on our touchscreen toy eehhh?

Maybe those are your types of games but me I prefer action based games like uncharted or last of us so I prefer my controllers.

And mouse and keyboard are best for shooters not touchscreen. I still prefer gamepad to touchscreen anyday anytime.

Gyroscope? So do ps4 controllers and ps vita with sixaxis as a motion sensor.

Let's play something like uncharted using touchscreen and see how that turns out uhhh?

ALso for the physical buttons, there are phones coming with soft triggers right now...gaming phones but u dont know...they also come with other accessories like controller accessories...

Check youtube for the ROG phone, Blackshark 2, Razer 2, etc

sammyfrosh:


Was it only shooters u know? That's all u lots been all shouting up and down what about playing something like God of war on our touchscreen toy eehhh?

And mouse and keyboard are best for shooters not touchscreen. I still prefer gamepad to touchscreen anyday anytime.

Gyroscope? So do ps4 controllers and ps vita with sixaxis as a motion sensor.

Let's play something like uncharted using touchscreen and see how that turns out uhhh?

first, i believe i told you u can use a controller or a mouse to game on ur mobile phone if u dont want the touchscreen...
2nd u didnt read my statement, i clearly put mouse as 1st for shooter games...and said that a touchscreen is in 2nd place
3rd what did u type there
I couldnt read that
Anyway my point is u hav all the options u want on mobile so it depends on the user...there are hardcore gamers on mobile...people use months to learn claw and master gyroscope just for gaming on mobile

sammyfrosh:


The vita (a.k.a sony's forgotten son) is still a mobile cpu/GPU Underhood and it's 7 years old compared to the s10 for f^ck sake but the advantages it has is that it's a dedicated portable console with vRam and gaming capabilities in mind which mobile phone isn't.

Compare the s10 to the switch not the vita cause that 6 years old console is far inferior to the ps360 and it's a mobile chips since Sony themselves can't fix a ps3 chips in it cause of space and overheating issues.

And I have played very high end game on the vita but the truth is nothing on mobile phones touched it most prolific ones.

The ps vita is like a ps2.7 not because it's almost as powerful as the ps3 in raw power but because it also have a vram, a light OS, customized chips that's why developers are able to develop close to ps3 graphics for it.

Yes it's true that a s10 has a better CPU/GPU than the vita but does it have a vRam and what about the android operating system that requires rams to run everything even in the background this are the things which happens to drag android phones down a lot.

Glad you didn't go as far as saying the vita is better cos I would literally punch u through the phone

Final verdict

Top flagships devices can produce comparable graphics and overall experience to consoles especially because an inferior device already did but only if the devs try

The only question is would they? That remains to be seen. Games like PUBG fortnite the upcoming apex legend, devil may cry remastered etc points to the fact that devs might start pushing true consolelike experience on phones instead of the near consolelike experience. I mean there are loads of Ps2 and earlier ports already as well as emulators

I think the future is very bright for mobile gaming. It's already the biggest gaming market but it won't surpass console as the primary gaming market anytime soon and I hope it never does cos I prefer console gaming any day

Still the mobile market shouldn't be underestimated these days. Especially not the post battle royal market

Baddestguyp:
first, i believe i told you u can use a controller or a mouse to game on ur mobile phone if u dont want the touchscreen...
2nd u didnt read my statement, i clearly put mouse as 1st for shooter games...and said that a touchscreen is in 2nd place
3rd what did u type there
I couldnt read that
Anyway my point is u hav all the options u want on mobile so it depends on the user...there are hardcore gamers on mobile...people use months to learn claw and master gyroscope just for gaming on mobile

U have nothing else to say cause all u talk about is shooters but what about action games on mobile?

Do those control better on touchscreen too?

I bet let just leave it at that

MAybe u think every mobile gamer is only into candy crush...


For me, for years now i have lost all interest in all other categories of gaming except online shooters...i only play online shooters and only that category interests me...even on youtube i only watch videos of online shooter games and stream only online shooter games as they are they only ones worth streaming imo...
While once in a while i do play soccer or racing games (especially with friends) i am in no way really interested in these categories
The same way i see candy crush is same way i see fifa or pes or god of war or spiderman...

How would i open youtube or twitch and start streaming god of war lol...

sammyfrosh:


U have nothing else to say cause all u talk about is shooters but what about action games on mobile?

Do those control better on touchscreen too?

I bet let just leave it at that

do u mean adventures? I dont care about that

Altrarecords:



Glad you didn't go as far as saying the vita is better cos I would literally punch u through the phone

Final verdict

Top flagships devices can produce comparable graphics and overall experience to consoles especially because an inferior device already did but only if the devs try

The only question is would they? That remains to be seen. Games like PUBG fortnite the upcoming apex legend, devil may cry remastered etc points to the fact that devs might start pushing true consolelike experience on phones instead of the near consolelike experience. I mean there are loads of Ps2 and earlier ports already as well as emulators

I think the future is very bright for mobile gaming. It's already the biggest gaming market but it won't surpass console as the primary gaming market anytime soon and I hope it never does cos I prefer console gaming any day

Still the mobile market shouldn't be underestimated these days. Especially not the post battle royal market

guy the gfx of games like pubg on mobile on max settings are amazing

Altrarecords:



Glad you didn't go as far as saying the vita is better cos I would literally punch u through the phone

Final verdict

Top flagships devices can produce comparable graphics and overall experience to consoles especially because an inferior device already did but only if the devs try

The only question is would they? That remains to be seen. Games like PUBG fortnite the upcoming apex legend, devil may cry remastered etc points to the fact that devs might start pushing true consolelike experience on phones instead of the near consolelike experience. I mean there are loads of Ps2 and earlier ports already as well as emulators

I think the future is very bright for mobile gaming. It's already the biggest gaming market but it won't surpass console as the primary gaming market anytime soon and I hope it never does cos I prefer console gaming any day

Still the mobile market shouldn't be underestimated these days. Especially not the post battle royal market

Lol

That's a very bright insights and fair enough argument and I know if developers try they can bring consoles level of gaming to smartphones but I have a feeling that they won't tho atleast not yet.

Yea but the problem about emulator is that they always require the device emulating the original system to be almost atleast 10 times more powerful which is why even pcsxe ps2 emulator is not perfect on PC but ppsspp is definitely close to perfection tho why the damon ps2 or dolphin (gamecube/Wii emulator) on mobile are certainly not stable yet at all but they will get there soon too.

Me too I also prefer gaming on consoles too and I don't want mobile games to replace it at all.

Baddestguyp:
do u mean adventures? I dont care about that

I bet Our tastes in games are different then.

Mind recommending any shooters I can try on my mobile apart from pubg and fortnite and certainly not the modern combat series

sammyfrosh:
Alaye I beg to differ no be only you Dey hustle we all be hustlers but that doesn’t mean we can’t have fun with our consoles or pc during free time or weekends and nobody is saying u can’t grab your phones and play too. Am not arguing about work or hustle things here so move that one to the next room pls. This is mobile game and console comparison (with some people saying mobile phones have the most versatile genre) not throw your phone in the bin and get a Xbox or ps4 argument. Not forcing anything on anyone just my opinion if u don’t like it u ignore

yeah.. like yur referring to the guy is not a real gamer... that's what prompt me talking...


coz real gamers spend most of their lives on pad

sammyfrosh:


Lol

That's a very bright insights and fair enough argument and I know if developers try they can bring consoles level of gaming to smartphones but I have a feeling that they won't tho atleast not yet.

Yea but the problem about emulator is that they always require the device emulating the original system to be almost atleast 10 times more powerful which is why even pcsxe ps2 emulator is not perfect on PC but ppsspp is definitely close to perfection tho why the damon ps2 or dolphin (gamecube/Wii emulator) on mobile are certainly not stable yet at all but they will get there soon too.

Me too I also prefer gaming on consoles too and I don't want mobile games to replace it at all.

Actually it isn't possible bro

Mobile phones hardware are limiting when it comes to gaming, imagine Devs still struggling to port a PS2 emulator on Android after 10 years

And with emulator PC actually play PS2 games better than PS2 itself the pcsx

If you play PS2 games on emulator for PC you get three times better graphics and smoother gameplay


One more thing
PS3 is not 10 times better than PS2 but it emulate PS2 perfectly

Baddestguyp:
MAybe u think every mobile gamer is only into candy crush...


For me, for years now i have lost all interest in all other categories of gaming except online shooters...i only play online shooters and only that category interests me...even on youtube i only watch videos of online shooter games and stream only online shooter games as they are they only ones worth streaming imo...
While once in a while i do play soccer or racing games (especially with friends) i am in no way really interested in these categories
The same way i see candy crush is same way i see fifa or pes or god of war or spiderman...

How would i open youtube or twitch and start streaming god of war lol...

Actually mobile gamers are not gamers

E3 2019 is a good testimony to this

And you said you were fan of shooter

Console still has better shooters with good experience Better graphics, gameplay and controls

Some dey talk of money

daamazing:
Some dey talk of money

We've actually been arguing about the unavailability of good games on Android

MobileGees:


We've actually been arguing about the unavailability of good games on Android

MobileGees:


Actually it isn't possible bro

Mobile phones hardware are limiting when it comes to gaming, imagine Devs still struggling to port a PS2 emulator on Android after 10 years

struggling you say?

Lastly let's stop being paranoid

No gamer would leave his or her console to play a downgraded version of thesame game


Stop celebrating mediocrity

MobileGees:


Actually it isn't possible bro

Mobile phones hardware are limiting when it comes to gaming, imagine Devs still struggling to port a PS2 emulator on Android after 10 years

And with emulator PC actually play PS2 games better than PS2 itself the pcsx

If you play PS2 games on emulator for PC you get three times better graphics and smoother gameplay

but that requires a very high end pc tho which most people don’t certainly own. Most mid range pc still require most certain settings to smooth things out

MobileGees:


Actually it isn't possible bro

Mobile phones hardware are limiting when it comes to gaming, imagine Devs still struggling to port a PS2 emulator on Android after 10 years

And with emulator PC actually play PS2 games better than PS2 itself the pcsx

If you play PS2 games on emulator for PC you get three times better graphics and smoother gameplay


One more thing
PS3 is not 10 times better than PS2 but it emulate PS2 perfectly

ps3 doesn't quite emulate the ps2 though. It’s just that the first generation/early revisions of the ps3 60gb has a built in hardware of the ps2 emotion engine just like how the psp can play ps1 gAmEs through it built in engine and how the vita can play psp titles bar the umd ones and I believe the specific terms is backward compatibility like how the Xbox one can play some Xbox 360 game catalogue.

MobileGees:
Lastly let's stop being paranoid

No gamer would leave his or her console to play a downgraded version of thesame game


Stop celebrating mediocrity

Really?
Should I list popular streamers who left PC/Console and are permanently on mobile?

MobileGees:


Actually mobile gamers are not gamers

E3 2019 is a good testimony to this

And you said you were fan of shooter

Console still has better shooters with good experience Better graphics, gameplay and controls

if we say mobile gamers are not gamers cos mobile is inferior to console, then console gamers are also not gamers cos console is inferior to PC

MobileGees:


Actually mobile gamers are not gamers

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