Segedinho:


They know the truth but concealing it..

Hazard in that team vs the spaces given by defence
line would have been a different story

i am not sure they would have allowed the spaces in the first place, because their manager would have told them that their is a certain hazard on the pitch. that is how it works. they would have prepared for him.

the fear factor is gone. chelsea is now just an ordinary team. teams no go dey look any player dey make preparations, na only manager tactics; maybe, until pulisic and odoi starting proving to be dangerous players.

Eruditor:


In summary, City improved. LFC will basically be the same (they got some injured players back). Tottenham (clearly the 3rd best team even last season before they lost their way) improved. Arsenal improved. United covered some of their lapses so they too will be better. CFC did not improve at all. In fact, this is a transition season.

CFC will finish 6th. Most likely.

so, these teams did not improve last season?

Bimffo:


I am still saying the same thing. Luiz cannot do all those mistakes Zouma was making.

And trust me, there was a time the United defence was up the pitch, Luiz would have picked out Pedro or anybody with a long pass.

I don't think we made any long pass into the final third Yesterday..

Playing long ball over the midfield and defence line is a way of creating chances, but there was no centre back to do that yesterday. No one with the vision.



Please read what I wrote. Please.

please don't go there. we have all watched luiz in chelsea. there is no kind of mistake made by any player that luiz cannot make

Lana1:
Literally no one has said our defence is now good and impenetrable.
And if you ask a random United fan, they would still tell you that the defence is a good LB and a solid DM away from being world class.

Those that are praising Maguire for a job well done are professionals who know what they are saying(pic).

You are just pained you'll no longer get to see banter defending from United every matchday courtesy of Ashley Young and the Chuckle brothers.

Seems u still don't understand my angle...Maguire is good no doubt but d defence was poor in closing spaces,they never shielded the keeper on several occasions,believe me those accolades wouldn't have been there had it been chelsea weren't shitty/mediocre in their attack.

pharod:


How many goals did you score against the shitty defense??

Sorry bro, u are off key,wish u can go back 2 the basis of the conversation

eph12:

This was LFC vs Norwich
15 Shots 12
7 Shots on target 5

How good was LFC defense last season?
Whose defense do you rate? I want to see if the keeper don't make saves or average players don't create chances, then look at their midfield too.

You are just pained dazzal but don't worry, after the next walloping by LFC, you will be alright

Did u see any1 singing praises of LFC defenders against Norwich?

U are probably deliberately misunderstanding my post,Maguire et Bissaka are good no doubt but Man u defence vs OUR FRONT 3 was shiity,clear space were there begging 4 killer passes (thanks 2 pedro)...chelsea had several goal scoring chances begging 2 b converted,,De gea was in form......

The defence isn't better than before but 4 the "toothlessness"of our attackers.

I lost hope after the pre-season cos it was to visible we are in 4 a shitty defence.

Selling Luiz made it worse so it going to be a long season of "goal harvest" except maybe rudiger was able to help and Kante rediscover his form.....

So talking abt pain,I have taken my full dose of pain killer after the pre-season.

Greatihex:
i am not sure they would have allowed the spaces in the first place, because their manager would have told them that their is a certain hazard on the pitch. that is how it works. they would have prepared for him.

the fear factor is gone. chelsea is now just an ordinary team. teams no go dey look any player dey make preparations, na only manager tactics; maybe, until pulisic and odoi starting proving to be dangerous players.

Very reasonable response,u saw the spaces..

Even in mediocrity;they struck the bar twice,they had glaring chances (courtesy man u poor defence)to change the game, all these are what I am pointin out

Like I said the Sunday game didn't speak volume of improvement in the man u defence.people singing how Maguire vs Bissaka co-ordinated the defence are just living in lies

Note Maguire et Bissaka are good defenders

Segedinho:

Did u see any1 singing praises of LFC defenders against Norwich?

U are probably deliberately misunderstanding my post,Maguire et Bissaka are good no doubt but Man u defence vs OUR FRONT 3 was shiity,clear space were there begging 4 killer passes (thanks 2 pedro)...chelsea had several goal scoring chances begging 2 b converted,,De gea was in form......

The defence isn't better than before but 4 the "toothlessness"of our attackers.

I lost hope after the pre-season cos it was to visible we are in 4 a shitty defence.

Selling Luiz made it worse so it going to be a long season of "goal harvest" except maybe rudiger was able to help and Kante rediscover his form.....

So talking abt pain,I have taken my full dose of pain killer after the pre-season.

You don't know ball. The defense held it's own but was left exposed and had to be out of position many times because of the midfield. Still Maguire had all those numbers inspite of how the midfield and Shaw exposed him.

If you know how to watch ball other than shout up shesi you will know all these.

Greatihex:
oga, make we hear word. did you realize that the match on sunday didn't have hazard, kante and willian starting it. even our new attacker didn't start. sarri wetin?

story

raumdeuter:


And in your illiterate mind, lawyers represent only one person. They don't have another client aside neymar

That's why I asked you to tell us in your Ogbomosho feyingbole educated mind, if he had gone there because of Yaya Toure. Mumu.

Greatihex:
i am not sure they would have allowed the spaces in the first place, because their manager would have told them that their is a certain hazard on the pitch. that is how it works. they would have prepared for him.

the fear factor is gone. chelsea is now just an ordinary team. teams no go dey look any player dey make preparations, na only manager tactics; maybe, until pulisic and odoi starting proving to be dangerous players.

if Chelsea became an ordinary team because hazard left, then it simply means Chelsea has been an ordinary team even with hazard...

Lampard defense tactics is wrong, this doesn't have to do with hazard been there or not.. you don't leave large acres of space between midfield and defence when playing against pacy forwards and expect not to be chopped with counter.

eph12:

You don't know ball. The defense held it's own but was left exposed and had to be out of position many times because of the midfield. Still Maguire had all those numbers inspite of how the midfield and Shaw exposed him.

If you know how to watch ball other than shout up shesi you will know all these.

With these Chelsea fans it's always never binary.

They have the cerebral ones with high intelligence and you also have those who have signed a lifetime contract with ignorance & are card-carrying members of 'Dundee United'

I respect Chelsea fans. I despise Shekpites

DeadPresidents:


With these Chelsea fans it's always never binary.

They have the cerebral ones with high intelligence and you also have those who have signed a lifetime contract with ignorance & are card-carrying members of 'Dundee United'

I respect Chelsea fans. I despise Shekpites

Everyone knows sege to be one of the shekpites on these streets.

eph12:

You don't know ball. The defense held it's own but was left exposed and had to be out of position many times because of the midfield. Still Maguire had all those numbers inspite of how the midfield and Shaw exposed him.

If you know how to watch ball other than shout up shesi you will know all these.

Do u have 2 insult me on it.....so all blame now on Shaw? ??am not even accusing anyone of any offence, The defence was porous and poor..That has been my point...if u don't understand then u will have 2 "shut down"

lordfalcao:
if Chelsea became an ordinary team because hazard left, then it simply means Chelsea has been an ordinary team even with hazard...

Lampard defense tactics is wrong, this doesn't have to do with hazard been there or not.. you don't leave large acres of space between midfield and defence when playing against pacy forwards and expect not to be chopped with counter.

Cr7 left Madrid. .I blv u know the aftermath

Here in chelsea,every 1 knows hazard prowess and he changes almost every game,losing him without replacement was/terrible,

Injuries is playing it's role.....who or wch team would be scared of Abraham,pedro n mason at d front?

eph12:

Everyone knows sege to be one of the shekpites on these streets.

lols
Butmy point is obvious bro...the defence was naked

Before the match, I told my man u colleague that if pogba is playing with his heart (talking about the long passes).that it was going to b 4 in the 1st half

Segedinho:

Very reasonable response,u saw the spaces..

Even in mediocrity;they struck the bar twice,they had glaring chances (courtesy man u poor defence)to change the game, all these are what I am pointin out

Like I said the Sunday game didn't speak volume of improvement in the man u defence.people singing how Maguire vs Bissaka co-ordinated the defence are just living in lies

Note Maguire et Bissaka are good defenders

saying that those singing Maguire and AWB praises are telling lies, is a lie.
Both of them held their own. But, they can't do Everything.


Although, you can argue that if a good attacker was playing against them, it may have been different. But, as long as that match is concerned, they both held their positions well

Segedinho:
lols
Butmy point is obvious bro...the defence was naked

Before the match, I told my man u colleague that if pogba is playing with his heart (talking about the long passes).that it was going to b 4 in the 1st half

I understand that from your own point of view, our defense was shit. Now I need you to understand from our own point of view, they performed magnificently without any type of cover from the midfield, Maguire always covering for Shaw thereby pushing Wan Bissaka as the 3rd CB. That's the reason for the spaces you saw.
If you read our reviews on our thread, you'll see a lot of people calling out Shaw and the midfield but you have to give credit to the people at the back.
No matter the type of game it is, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CHANCES. You either convert yours or you don't. Take the positives bro, we are ok with the 3 points.

Segedinho:
Do u have 2 insult me on it.....so all blame now on Shaw? ??am not even accusing anyone of any offence, The defence was porous and poor..That has been my point...if u don't understand then u will have 2 "shut down"

There was no insult there. The post was supposed to educate you about how football works. If the midfield does not protect the defense, no matter how good the defenders are, opponents will get spaces to create chances. The defenders can only try their best to limit the chances to half chances.

Your team was exposed many times and pundits have pointed out the lack of shield from the midfield. If you had Maguire and AWB, we may not have scored all those goals

pharod:


I understand that from your own point of view, our defense was shit. Now I need you to understand from our own point of view, they performed magnificently without any type of cover from the midfield, Maguire always covering for Shaw thereby pushing Wan Bissaka as the 3rd CB. That's the reason for the spaces you saw.
If you read our reviews on our thread, you'll see a lot of people calling out Shaw and the midfield but you have to give credit to the people at the back.
No matter the type of game it is, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CHANCES. You either convert yours or you don't. Take the positives bro, we are ok with the 3 points.

I take this

lordfalcao:
if Chelsea became an ordinary team because hazard left, then it simply means Chelsea has been an ordinary team even with hazard...

Lampard defense tactics is wrong, this doesn't have to do with hazard been there or not.. you don't leave large acres of space between midfield and defence when playing against pacy forwards and expect not to be chopped with counter.

what is the problem? Is it that you don't understand what you read or what. Did you read the post i quoted and my own post at all?

Segedinho:
lols
Butmy point is obvious bro...the defence was naked

Before the match, I told my man u colleague that if pogba is playing with his heart (talking about the long passes).that it was going to b 4 in the 1st half

You're just stubborn. The first stage is denial, then withdrawal. Your team is shit, live with it.

eph12:

There was no insult there. The post was supposed to educate you about how football works. If the midfield does not protect the defense, no matter how good the defenders are, opponents will get spaces to create chances. The defenders can only try their best to limit the chances to half chances.

Your team was exposed many times and pundits have pointed out the lack of shield from the midfield. If you had Maguire and AWB, we may not have scored all those goals

B4 the Maguire,almost every man u fans were accusing the defenders,irrespective of whether the midfield was good or not..

eph12:

You're just stubborn. The first stage is denial, then withdrawal. Your team is shit, live with it.

My present team will end up in probably 10th if the injuries persist...

We aint good enough no doubt


Denial? where did I deny or said we are good enough,even 4m d beginning of the conversation..I said the pre-season shows the defense nakednes

Withdrawal u can help me here

pharod:


I understand that from your own point of view, our defense was shit. Now I need you to understand from our own point of view, they performed magnificently without any type of cover from the midfield, Maguire always covering for Shaw thereby pushing Wan Bissaka as the 3rd CB. That's the reason for the spaces you saw.
If you read our reviews on our thread, you'll see a lot of people calling out Shaw and the midfield but you have to give credit to the people at the back.
No matter the type of game it is, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CHANCES. You either convert yours or you don't. Take the positives bro, we are ok with the 3 points.

Bimffo:
Luiz is gone for good, I am not complaining about him again. When will Rudiger be back.?

See the 4th goal, Zouma was already down in the United box and didn't stand up till after United scored.


Christiensen is a sissy!!!! Too soft.

Apzilicueta is now old. We need Rudiger and Reece James back immediately.

cc greatihex

airmark:


Raumdeuter, do you guys want to serve Barcelona a court note for not signing Neymar or what? I thought the person that first reported it was joking. This is embarrassing.

See as the man carry bowtie and big hair dey waka like ronald mcdonald sef

This legal style of begging pass me o

Greatihex:
please don't go there. we have all watched luiz in chelsea. there is no kind of mistake made by any player that luiz cannot make

Segedinho:

Cr7 left Madrid. .I blv u know the aftermath

Here in chelsea,every 1 knows hazard prowess and he changes almost every game,losing him without replacement was/terrible,

Injuries is playing it's role.....who or wch team would be scared of Abraham,pedro n mason at d front?

we are talking defensive aspect you are talking hazard. How does the inclusion of hazard or not change a defensive tactics??

Update less than 20mins ago

Segedinho:

Did u see any1 singing praises of LFC defenders against Norwich?

U are probably deliberately misunderstanding my post,Maguire et Bissaka are good no doubt but Man u defence vs OUR FRONT 3 was shiity,clear space were there begging 4 killer passes (thanks 2 pedro)...chelsea had several goal scoring chances begging 2 b converted,,De gea was in form......

The defence isn't better than before but 4 the "toothlessness"of our attackers.

I lost hope after the pre-season cos it was to visible we are in 4 a shitty defence.

Selling Luiz made it worse so it going to be a long season of "goal harvest" except maybe rudiger was able to help and Kante rediscover his form.....

So talking abt pain,I have taken my full dose of pain killer after the pre-season.

you just like argument.

Even Milan with the strongest of defenders those days was penetrated thrice in UCL 05'.

Which defense dem no dey open?

nihilistjnr:

cc greatihex

wetin christensen do you on sunday?