Greatihex:
as in ehh!!

i even saw drogba somewhere in his post.



nna e, raumdeuter is a bad influence o.

Greatihex:
as in ehh!!

i even saw drogba somewhere in his post.



nna e, raumdeuter is a bad influence o.

Greatihex:
what i see is hazard having a mediocre assist number that is not up to what he is supposed to have using his xA number (in a season that was claimed to be one of his most inconsistent and poor season) and i see kdb having a good number of assist that is more what he is supposed to have, using his xA number (in a season claimed to be one of his career best).

Greatihex:

now, if kdb had 12... xA in one of his best seasons and hazard had 11..xA in one of his best seasons, can you tell us how 11.. is very inferior to 12..? tell us how kdb is heads and shoulders above hazard in vision and creativity?

eph12:

You sef shock abi? I can imagine all the belloti and Krywochoke in one team with airmark as coach. Jesus

Greatihex:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11763503/is-eden-hazard-ready-to-become-real-madrid8217s-newest-superstar?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation&spot_im_comment_id=sp_BOYlZOzX_11763503_c_CvNvn3

Ibime:


His last stat showed his XA is much higher than his assist which means teammates are missing chances he created.

Swissh:

Members of Hazard ass licking association.

Airmark- CEO
Thorrvik55
Mapoka
Greatihex
Hazardfan1
Segedinho

airmark:


Sorry to ask you, what does Debruyne having more Assists than XA mean?

The image greatihex posted below, shows that Man city players weren't as wasteful as Chelsea's, which has been one of the reasons he didn't get more assists that he deserved. Even Firminho with lower XA had more assists than Hazard and more assists than his XA like De bruyne and Sterling.

Ibime:


According to your pic, he deserved 7 assists not 4

While DeBruyne deserved 13 assists not 16


DeBruyne is still double his deserved assist for that season which still comes back to what we told you about big chances. DeBruyne creates TWICE as many chances as Hazard during their time in EPL due to his superior vision.

Just because a poor man deserve to be a millionaire doesn't mean he should compare himself to Bill Gates

Ibime:
Hazard will leave this club

Imagine playing with Bakayoko, Zappacosta, new signings that are totally demoralising like Drinkbleach, Barkley, signing likes of Palmieri just returning from ACL, buying 32 year old Dzeko, bidding for Carroll etc.

If I'm Hazard, thunder will fire my father if I don't leave this useless club.

thorrvik55:
How to become wetin?

lordfalcao:
ibime told you to provide stats. You started solving Futher maths


Xa ko, Dy/DX ni

BikeMan:
But to be honest, FBS dey do shisha

lordfalcao:
it is not possible.

gensteejay:
When KDB wins the EPL best player award, which Hazard has won a number of times, both players can be compared.

For now, all these attempts at downplaying Hazard's achievements and exaggerating KDB's are sentimental, to say the least.

Hazard is easily the better player of the 2.

Ibime:


Yet KDB still has double the XA of Hazard

Hazard 6.5XA, KDB 13 XA

Coming back to your original statement that XA is the true test of vision, we still come back to DeBruyne having much more vision than Hazard.

This also reinforces the big chance stats which showed KDB creating double the number of big chances on average


Hazard 2018 season, 4 assists, 6.5 XA
Hazard 2019 season 16 assists, 11.7 XA

Combine both seasons, and we see why assists is a good metric to judge creativity, so we can stop blaming teammates.




Because Hazard last season is an outlier.

Hazard usual XA is 6,6,5 etc while DeBruyne is 12 and above

hensben:
De Bruyne should be in same team with Morata and co let’s see number of assist he will get.

Kimbeast:


You serious? Scholes never won one. Lampard never won one. Aguero hasn't won one.That's an incredibly superficial way of assessing the better player by using silly awards my man.

Greatihex:
can you provide facts to back up the bold?

i don't understand you. how can 6.78 be the usual for hazard when it was produced in one of his worst seasons in chelsea? and how can 12.97 be the usual for kdb when it was produced in his best ever season in england?

airmark:


Are you sure of what you just typed? Don't let me think you just started supporting Chelsea after we won UCL.

KDB is not on Hazard and Lampard level please. Let KDB be the best in the league for just one season like them first.

airmark:


Are you sure of what you just typed? Don't let me think you just started supporting Chelsea after we won UCL.

KDB is not on Hazard and Lampard level please. Let KDB be the best in the league for just one season like them first.

Kimbeast:

Ok just checked he won one but that doesn't change my point. Winning that award adds nothing to a player quality or ability. Honesty the last part of your post is garbage. Vardy can't lace Aguero boots yet he has won one and aguero have won none. So by your logic if aguero can't win one then vardy is better or what?

raumdeuter:


Just like Michael Owen won balon dor which Raul Xavi, Henry never won

Kimbeast:

Ok just checked he won one but that doesn't change my point. Winning that award adds nothing to a player quality or ability. Honesty the last part of your post is garbage. Vardy can't lace Aguero boots yet he has won one and aguero have won none. So by your logic if aguero can't win one then vardy is better or what?

airmark:


The person you quoted said Hazard was the best in the league more than once, you had to lie that Lampard never won the award once, to defend what's not defensible.

Your next move was to name one player who peaked late in his career after working as a factory worker, to rubbish the award. Nice try.

Oga, stop making lot of noise, let KDB win it once, then we can bring him close to his bosses, that had bossed the league more than once.

gensteejay:
Here are Hazard's individual honors according to Wikipedia:

UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year: 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year: 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Month: March 2010, March 2011, March 2012, April 2012
Bravo Award: 2011
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 1st team: 2018; 2nd team: 2015; 4th team: 2014, 2016, 2017; Nominee: 2012
FIFA Ballon d'Or/Ballon d'Or: 2015 (8th place), 2018 (8th place)
The Best FIFA Men's Player: 2018 (7th place)
Premier League Player of the Season: 2014–15
Premier League Playmaker of the Season: 2018–19
Premier League Player of the Month: October 2016, September 2018
Premier League Goal of the Month: February 2017, April 2019
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2012–13,2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2013–14
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2013–14 (2nd place), 2014–15 (1st place), 2016–17 (2nd place)
PFA Fans' Premier League Player of the Month: October 2016
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2018–19
UEFA Men's Player of the Year Award: 2015 (6th place), 2018 (9th place), 2019 (7th place)
UEFA European Championship top assist provider: 2016
UEFA Team of the Year: 2017, 2018
UEFA Europa League Final Man of the Match: 2019
UEFA Europa League Squad of the Season: 2018–19
Chelsea Player of the Year: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17, 2018–19
Chelsea Players' Player of the Year: 2014–15, 2018–19
Chelsea Goal of the Year: 2015–16 (vs. Tottenham Hotspur), 2016–17 (vs. Arsenal), 2018–19 (vs. Liverpool)
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2014–15
ESM Team of the Year: 2014–15
Belgian Golden Shoe: 2017
FIFA World Cup Silver Ball: 2018
FIFA World Cup top assist provider: 2018
FIFA World Cup Fantasy McDonald's Overall XI: 2018
IFFHS Men's World Team: 2018
Belgian Sportsman of the year: 2018

Here are KDB's:

Bundesliga Young Player of the Year: 2012–13
Bundesliga Player of the Year: 2014–15
Bundesliga Team of the Year: 2014–15
UEFA Europa League Squad of the Season: 2014–15
Footballer of the Year in Germany: 2015
France Football World XI: 2015
Belgian Sportsman of the Year: 2015
Manchester City Player of the Year: 2015–16, 2017–18
FIFA FIFPro World XI 2nd team: 2018
FIFA FIFPro World XI 3rd team: 2016
IFFHS Men's World Team: 2017
UEFA Team of the Year: 2017
PFA Team of the Year: 2017–18 Premier League[192]
Premier League Playmaker of the Season: 2017–18
UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2017–18,[193] 2018–19
FIFA World Cup Dream Team: 2018

The better player is obvious comparing these individual honors.

Furthermore, when both players played under the same coaches (in the national team and at club level), Hazard outperformed the latter.

airmark:






One will think Hazard is older than him by like 7yrs.

Greatihex:
state your reason

gensteejay:

Lol. He's even a few months older than Hazard.