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engineerboat:
Which of the Result.

Which one did he tender.

Lets start from there

Buhari didn't tender any results at the filing of his form and even on commencement of trial in march but, suddenly came up with a bogus result during the pendency of trial. Such procurement of evidence is flawed in law. It is of no effect and value let alone the numerous contradictions therein.

tuniski:
Buhari didn't tender any results at the filing of his form and even on commencement of trial in march but, suddenly came up with a bogus result during the pendency of trial. Such procurement of evidence is flawed in law. It is of no effect and value let alone the numerous contradictions therein.

His boys are saying otherwise

ejimatic:
Buhari did not present three certificates bearing different names.Let leave sentiments. He is educationally qualified to contest in view of the constitutional requirement to contest as the president.....Section 140 of the constitution says ....educated to the secondary school level or it's equivalent....The result he used which was also tendered in court qualifies him to contest....

pls read the petition again, " the 2nd respondent was at the time of the election not qualify to contest" no body said buhari is not qualify to contest because olanipekun just proved he's qualify to contest at the court with the documents tendered....but buhari as at the time of the election (60 days as prescribe by d constitution ) could not prove he was qualify to contest , because he didnt tender anytin...he used an affidavit dat is "stale" to tell inec his "certificate " is with the military meaning he has certificate and is not missing.....

tuniski:
All the issues raised are serious. The result/certificate stuff is engaging more attention cos most people are lazy brains who rather cherry pick the easiest item on the table.

With the cert it appears straightforward that is why even the buhari team were clearly jittery and shakened! The hurried procurement of documents during pendency of a trial is fundamentally flawed.


All the legal team is trying to do is to muddle the petitioners case for which the petitioners reffused to take their baits. Atiku's petition is far more compelling than Adeleke's.

Nothing is fundamentally flawed.you are just trying to twist things or rather deliberately misunderstand issues.i will engage you in this argument not to just educate you but others because while you are learning,others are reading and appreciating.when you comment,know that others are reading and learning hence the dragging and insulting comments you received.

I will use myself as an example.i am contesting for elections but i lost my originals and photocopies but i swore an affidavit attesting that to that and that i am educated up to secondary school cert level.an opponent drags me to court saying that i did not attach my certs and qualifications to the inec form cf001,therefore i dont have the nevessary certs and am not qualified.he did not plead forgery.what am i to do? how do i prove to the court that i am qualified and that indeed i was possessed the documents i claimed to get.i have to go to my former school to get an attestation from them,a picture or proof that i wrote waec there or was in class 5.some of my class mates at then were brought to testify in my favour,a broadsheet,attestation letters and transcripts from waec and neco are brought to the court.

There are three differsnt results and one has my name fully.i have proven that i wrote waec and was educated up to school cert level.if the certs were forged or any discrepancy noticed,it cannot be entertained by the as what was pleaded was non qualification and not forgery.



You do not know the word compelling,just accept it.or lets say strong.adeleke case was stronger,he almost won.he won the main election,was declared winner by the tribunal,proved clearly to the tribunal that there were errors in the result sheets,proved to the court that cancelled units were done by the rec instead of presiding officers.what has atiku successfully proven?

tuniski:
Buhari didn't tender any results at the filing of his form and even on commencement of trial in march but, suddenly came up with a bogus result during the pendency of trial. Such procurement of evidence is flawed in law. It is of no effect and value let alone the numerous contradictions therein.

It is not flawed my boy.he needed to prove that he is educated up to school cert and getting that document was part of it

Djrufus:
pls read the petition again, " the 2nd respondent was at the time of the election not qualify to contest" no body said buhari is not qualify to contest because olanipekun just proved he's qualify to contest at the court with the documents tendered....but buhari as at the time of the election (60 days as prescribe by d constitution ) could not prove he was qualify to contest , because he didnt tender anytin...he used an affidavit dat is "stale" to tell inec his "certificate " is with the military meaning he has certificate and is not missing.....

. Your opinion is respected.However Buhari used affidavidavit in the first term which is binding in the law.He used same for the second term on the ground that his result is missing. During the hearing he brought a copy of his result.... it is in order in law. So Buhari satisfied the requirement to contest before and after the election.

Djrufus:
pls read the petition again, " the 2nd respondent was at the time of the election not qualify to contest" no body said buhari is not qualify to contest because olanipekun just proved he's qualify to contest at the court with the documents tendered....but buhari as at the time of the election (60 days as prescribe by d constitution ) could not prove he was qualify to contest , because he didnt tender anytin...he used an affidavit dat is "stale" to tell inec his "certificate " is with the military meaning he has certificate and is not missing.....

Thats why you should have followed the tribunal proceedings.most of your colleagues did and were disappointed hence the reason only few are arguing blindly.buhari included his other qualifications in the affidavit and outside and pdp lawyers clearly tried to argue that the overseas military training he attended were not equivalent of school certs and he wasn't issued a certificate.
Theres a lacuna in the constitution which his lawyers harped on and the appeal court ruled in favorite of adeleke.the constitution said education up to school cert level,it didnt specify that you must tender your certificates.just prove that you passed through secondary school whether you wrote waec or not and it was proven.



Infact,let me tell you the bitter truth.even if buhari did not tender anything before the tribunal or did not go to any school at all,the court will still find a way to qualify him.check the supreme court judgment on donald duke in 2002,2016 supreme court judgment on ayade's qualification.

engineerboat:
Which of the Result.

Which one did he tender.

Lets start from there

. Go online you will see the copy if his A level cerficate presented in court....even if he went to NDA and used its certificate he qualified to contest..... Buhari academic qualification will be the first to be struck out by the tribunal

ejimatic:
. Your opinion is respected.However Buhari used affidavidavit in the first term which is binding in the law.He used same for the second term on the ground that his result is missing. During the hearing he brought a copy of his result.... it is in order in law. So Buhari satisfied the requirement to contest before and after the election.

That is just it.if buhari had presented any document,then atiku could have trapped him by claiming that its fake or forged.since he didnt,he just needed proofs whether real or fake.the exam bodies testifying in his favor killed atiku

engineerboat:
Was his certificate with the army

. Affjdavit is a legal document that covers every situation.. It is a representation of what is true....The copy of what he presented support the breakdown in the affidavit or its content

engineerboat:
Was his certificate with the army

. Affjdavit is a legal document that covers every situation.. It is a representation of what is true....The copy of what he presented support the breakdown in the affidavit or its content .It is still in order in law.

ejimatic:
. Affjdavit is a legal document that covers every situation.. It is a representation of what is true....The copy of what he presented support the breakdown in the affidavit or its content .It is still in order in law.

Yes affidavit is a legal document recognized in law but what happens in a situation where what you swore to in your affidavit contradicts the original documents you are trying to defend with your affidavit? Are you now saying it will still make the content of the affidavit valid? This is the issue with Buhari here.

Cc: great job there engineerboat tuniski I am proud of you guys

ejimatic:
. Affjdavit is a legal document that covers every situation.. It is a representation of what is true....The copy of what he presented support the breakdown in the affidavit or its content .It is still in order in law.

You still have not answered my question,

Which of the certificate is with the army as stated by Buhari,

and which one did Kyari personally collected from the said cambridge,

Which was the attestation given to him by Waec,

Which one corresponds with the statement allegedly obtained from one secondary school in katsina.

garfield1:
Nothing is fundamentally flawed.you are just trying to twist things or rather deliberately misunderstand issues.i will engage you in this argument not to just educate you but others because while you are learning,others are reading and appreciating.when you comment,know that others are reading and learning hence the dragging and insulting comments you received.

I will use myself as an example.i am contesting for elections but i lost my originals and photocopies but i swore an affidavit attesting that to that and that i am educated up to secondary school cert level.an opponent drags me to court saying that i did not attach my certs and qualifications to the inec form cf001,therefore i dont have the nevessary certs and am not qualified.he did not plead forgery.what am i to do? how do i prove to the court that i am qualified and that indeed i was possessed the documents i claimed to get.i have to go to my former school to get an attestation from them,a picture or proof that i wrote waec there or was in class 5.some of my class mates at then were brought to testify in my favour,a broadsheet,attestation letters and transcripts from waec and neco are brought to the court.

There are three differsnt results and one has my name fully.i have proven that i wrote waec and was educated up to school cert level.if the certs were forged or any discrepancy noticed,it cannot be entertained by the as what was pleaded was non qualification and not forgery.



You do not know the word compelling,just accept it.or lets say strong.adeleke case was stronger,he almost won.he won the main election,was declared winner by the tribunal,proved clearly to the tribunal that there were errors in the result sheets,proved to the court that cancelled units were done by the rec instead of presiding officers.what has atiku successfully proven?

I will sincerely asked you to wind back to the tribunal proceedings and read up the written addresses of all the parties involved.

ejimatic:
. Your opinion is respected.However Buhari used affidavidavit in the first term which is binding in the law.He used same for the second term on the ground that his result is missing. During the hearing he brought a copy of his result.... it is in order in law. So Buhari satisfied the requirement to contest before and after the election.

Which one did he bring,

Mohammed Buhari or Muhammahdu Buhari,

The one with 5 subjects or the one with 7 subjects or the one wteh 8 subjects

Ratello:
Yes affidavit is a legal document recognized in law but what happens in a situation where what you swore to in your affidavit contradicts the original documents you are trying to defend with your affidavit? Are you now saying it will still make the content of the affidavit valid? This is the issue with Buhari here.

Cc: great job there engineerboat tuniski I am proud of you guys

. I appreciate your maturity in responses.....Buhari said his certificate is with the army...He stated his results in it.....is there any difference with the one he tendered in court? No is the answer....The interpretation is that the certificate was not available as at the time he was filling the form to contest.Now the certificate is available regardless of its source.....It is still in order.

ejimatic:
. Go online you will see the copy if his A level cerficate presented in court....even if he went to NDA and used its certificate he qualified to contest..... Buhari academic qualification will be the first to be struck out by the tribunal

My result are with the NA Board is different from I personal get this from Cambridge myself (says Kyari)

Is it Cambridge that will speak for the Nigeria army board.

Is it not the NA Board that should be called to come and tell the court if truly they are in possession of His certificates.

Nigeria Army had already make a statement on what Buhari Submtted to them.

Take note:
A recommendation letter that HE WILL PASS his exam

engineerboat:
My result are with the NA Board is different from I personal get this from Cambridge myself (says Kyari)

Is it Cambridge that will speak for the Nigeria army board.

Is it not the NA Board that should be called to come and tell the court if truly they are in possession of His certificates.

Nigeria Army had already make a statement on what Buhari Submtted to them.

Take note:
A recommendation letter that HE WILL PASS his exam

. The interpretation is. the result was not available at the time of filling his form ..Now it is available and tendered in court. ...it is still in order.

ejimatic:
. Affjdavit is a legal document that covers every situation.. It is a representation of what is true....The copy of what he presented support the breakdown in the affidavit or its content .It is still in order in law.

Nobody is questioning affidavit.

You and i know that it is what you claimed to the affidavit that the court with attest and oathed for you.

So in this case, was Buhari certificates with the army,

If yes, what is hindering him from collecting them,

What hinder him to tell the court to subpoena NA Board secretary to come and and testify whaat Buhari Documents is doing wih them.

But in all this, Buhari never do that.

But Buhari lied in the affidavit he submitted to INEC.

engineerboat:
Which one did he bring,

Mohammed Buhari or Muhammahdu Buhari,

The one with 5 subjects or the one with 7 subjects or the one wteh 8 subjects

. It was said in the court that Mohammed and Mohaammodu refer to same person as long as the contents are smilar.. So the summation is. certificate was not available when filing the firm but it is available e now

ejimatic:
. The interpretation is. the result was not available at the time of filling his form ..Now it is available and tendered in court. ...it is still in order.

Let me come up again, maybe you will get what im saying.

PDP take Buhari oath to the tribunal,

He told the court, Buhari information stated in this form is false.

As a result, EA states presenting false information, can nullify your election.

That is what Atiku is telling the court.

I hope i make it more clearer

engineerboat:
Which one did he bring,

Mohammed Buhari or Muhammahdu Buhari,

The one with 5 subjects or the one with 7 subjects or the one wteh 8 subjects

It was said in the court that Mohammed and Mohaammodu refer to same person as long as the contents are smilar.. So the summation is. certificate was not available when filing the firm but it is available e now

engineerboat:
You still have not answered my question,

Which of the certificate is with the army as stated by Buhari,

and which one did Kyari personally collected from the said cambridge,

Which was the attestation given to him by Waec,

Which one corresponds with the statement allegedly obtained from one secondary school in katsina.

It was said in the court that Mohammed and Mohaammodu refer to same person as long as the contents are smilar.. So the summation is. certificate was not available when filing the firm but it is available e now

engineerboat:
Which of the Result.

Which one did he tender.

Lets start from there

. Waec brought one which was conducted by Cambridge A level .It was said in the court that Mohammed and Mohaammodu refer to same person as long as the contents are smilar.. So the summation is. certificate was not available when filing the firm but it is available e now

engineerboat:
You still have not answered my question,

Which of the certificate is with the army as stated by Buhari,

and which one did Kyari personally collected from the said cambridge,

Which was the attestation given to him by Waec,

Which one corresponds with the statement allegedly obtained from one secondary school in katsina.

It was said in the court that Mohammed and Mohaammodu refer to same person as long as the contents are smilar.. So the summation is. certificate was not available when filing the firm but it is available e now

engineerboat:
Let me come up again, maybe you will get what im saying.

PDP take Buhari oath to the tribunal,

He told the court, Buhari information stated in this form is false.

As a result, EA states presenting false information, can nullify your election.

That is what Atiku is telling the court.

I hope i make it more clearer

. That the Affidavit said results were with Army only to be tendered by another body holds no water.Remember. the army came up with his result equivalents while some the real results were tendered by WAEC and supported by APC witnesses....In my opinion. it will be decided in favour of APC

ejimatic:
. It was said in the court that Mohammed and Mohaammodu refer to same person as long as the contents are smilar.. So the summation is. certificate was not available when filing the firm but it is available e now

Which court,

Who said what and what?

In law, name carries vitals information about you.

When did Buhari change his name.

Are you saying AUSTIN is the same as AUGUSTINE in the law court..

You are bearing Austin, then Waec put Augustine in your certificate,

You think that will be accepted as you.

garfield1:
Nothing is fundamentally flawed.you are just trying to twist things or rather deliberately misunderstand issues.i will engage you in this argument not to just educate you but others because while you are learning,others are reading and appreciating.when you comment,know that others are reading and learning hence the dragging and insulting comments you received.

I will use myself as an example.i am contesting for elections but i lost my originals and photocopies but i swore an affidavit attesting that to that and that i am educated up to secondary school cert level.an opponent drags me to court saying that i did not attach my certs and qualifications to the inec form cf001,therefore i dont have the nevessary certs and am not qualified.he did not plead forgery.what am i to do? how do i prove to the court that i am qualified and that indeed i was possessed the documents i claimed to get.i have to go to my former school to get an attestation from them,a picture or proof that i wrote waec there or was in class 5.some of my class mates at then were brought to testify in my favour,a broadsheet,attestation letters and transcripts from waec and neco are brought to the court.

There are three differsnt results and one has my name fully.i have proven that i wrote waec and was educated up to school cert level.if the certs were forged or any discrepancy noticed,it cannot be entertained by the as what was pleaded was non qualification and not forgery.



You do not know the word compelling,just accept it.or lets say strong.adeleke case was stronger,he almost won.he won the main election,was declared winner by the tribunal,proved clearly to the tribunal that there were errors in the result sheets,proved to the court that cancelled units were done by the rec instead of presiding officers.what has atiku successfully proven?

The problem with you is that you only want argument. Buhari's affidavit is first stale cos it was 2014. And he was publicly issued an attestation by WAEC prior last year.

Again, obtaining evidence during pendency of trial is flawed by the evidence act. You don't seek office claim awaiting result or missing result cos you have all the time to seek a ctc of said cert. Suddenly you are presenting same during pendency of trial. Indolence is not rewarded by the court

Atiku has a compelling case except you don't know what it meant. Any case that has spilt decision is compelling. This case will have such a ruling.

Your cockiness of claiming knowledge is actually ignorance! Cos the frontier of your knowledge is the beginning of others. You haven't shown any knowledge or expertise but, bringing other people's thoughts from some forum for submission without acknowledging them. I know your type. That we are in cyberspace and you support the party in power doesn't make you any more knowledgeable than anybody you hear!

engineerboat:
Nobody is questioning affidavit.

You and i know that it is what you claimed to the affidavit that the court with attest and oathed for you.

So in this case, was Buhari certificates with the army,

If yes, what is hindering him from collecting them,

What hinder him to tell the court to subpoena NA Board secretary to come and and testify whaat Buhari Documents is doing wih them.

But in all this, Buhari never do that.

But Buhari lied in the affidavit he submitted to INEC.

. The army wrote letter of attestation on his result. WAEC tendered one from Cambridge.... It is still in order.....Affidavit was used to fill in the form.. the certificate has been produced now

ejimatic:
. The army wrote letter of attestation on his result. WAEC tendered one from Cambridge.... It is still in order.....Affidavit was used to fill in the form.. the certificate has been produced now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QnJvu86ec

tuniski:
The problem with you is that you only want argument. Buhari's affidavit is first stale cos it was 2014. And he was publicly issued an attestation by WAEC prior last year.

Again, obtaining evidence during pendency of trial is flawed by the evidence act. You don't seek office claim awaiting result or missing result cos you have all the time to seek a ctc of said cert. Suddenly you are presenting same during pendency of trial. Indolence is not rewarded by the court.

Why cant you accept that you have lost to my superior argument? Even you sometimes you enjoy winning afterall when rumors during the polls said saraki was leading,you celebrated.when the rivers rerun of 2018 was canceled in 2018,you heaved a sigh of relief and gloated in the face of an apc victory.you earlier claimed that if the tribunal rules against bujari,you and many nigerians will celebrate.this shows that your being hypocritical and double faced.

Buhari has simply outsmarted atiku by not attaching his ssce to his inec form.he simply ambushed atiku.mind you,he didnt present any certificate from waec except an affidavit and his diplomas from overseas training.if he had brought any certificate,then he would be trapped.even if the tribunal rejects his ssce proofs,his other qualifications and inec being satisfied with them is enough.atiku has failed

engineerboat:
Which court,

Who said what and what?

In law, name carries vitals information about you.

When did Buhari change his name.

Are you saying AUSTIN is the same as AUGUSTINE in the law court..

You are bearing Austin, then Waec put Augustine in your certificate,

You think that will be accepted as you.

Well,that is for the civil courts to decide not the tribunal.since buhari claims those qualifications are his,so be it.saying its not is is a new case.lying under oath is also a case for civil court.infact,he navel lied because the military never came to court to say he affirm or rebuts his claims.the crux is that he is qualified