raumdeuter:


Are we blaming the victim here?

Businesses are conducted based on trust. I purchase goods and services from you based on trust and you also do business with me based on trust
If you go to a fuel station and pay for petrol if not for trust, how are you sure they are really selling you fuel? If they sell you bad fuel should we blame you also when your car knocks for not testing the fuel you paid for?


If you pay to see a doctor in a hospital, Yu are doing that because you trust that someone called a doctor in XYZ hospital is qualified and knows his job. How are you sure he is not a quack? If he kills a patient, should we also blame the patient for not verifying the doctor's credentials?

Seems the trust the entire world depends on to transact business and personal dealings should not be applied to Nigerians. So if they cannot trust Nigerians to act the way regular people will act, then why will they want to continue to do business with us

We scream that we want foreign investors, the few who come, get swindled till they flee

Cos if they do business with us, they get swindled, you will still blame the victim

Blacks must always cast, and Africans cast pass everybody.

That's why I no too dey fraternise with dudu for here before they set you up, or they rope you into shit.

I have paroled and partied hard with enough boys that will never know my last name or where I live...cos where there is dudu, there is always problem

Segedinho:

Bros,from the beginning to this point of ur conversation,one could easily deduce u are a "yahoo boy"please and please,u guys are ruining the little of our credibility; a time will come when travelling 4m Nigeria would be the most difficult task on earth.


Pity us..biko

A time will come or its already here
Go embassy now and see story, enough people with good jobs, years of travel history are getting denied visas nowadays which wasn't like that before

Segedinho:

Bros,from the beginning to this point of ur conversation,one could easily deduce u are a "yahoo boy"please and please,u guys are ruining the little of our credibility;a time will come when travelling 4m Nigeria would be the most difficult task on earth.


Pity us..biko

We re product of the society we live in.

90% of the persons has at some point in their life taking advantage of of another person directly or indirectly.

Its just a case of who is caught and made the escape goat.
I am many things but am sure not a hypocrite.

But in this FBI Yahoo case, am just trying to play the devils advocate

Do you know how annoying it is when you want to shop online and they tell you they ship to friggin Mali but not Nigeria. This nigga can't be serious right now

A40:
Do you know how annoying it is when you want to shop online and they tell you they ship to friggin Mali but not Nigeria. This nigga can't be serious right now

its their loss if they dont ship to Nigeria.
There are other alternatives

krattoss:


We re product of the society we live in.

90% of the persons has at some point in their life taking advantage of of another person directly or indirectly.

Its just a case of who is caught and made the escape goat.
I am many things but am sure not a hypocrite.

But in this FBI Yahoo case, am just trying to play the devils advocate

Taking advantage on the detriment of majority is evil itself.

Ur questions on
this case should have been:
Are they guilty??

Should they be free cos of their skin colour??

What is left 4 the majority who are in 4 a legit biz as a Nigerian? ??

Should we applaud them 4 channelling their capability into negativity? ?

If I should rape ur sister to satisfy my sexual urge would u free me just cos I needed to take advantage directly/indirectly of the situation I find myself?

Segedinho:

Bros,from the beginning to this point of ur conversation,one could easily deduce u are a "yahoo boy"please and please,u guys are ruining the little of our credibility;a time will come when travelling 4m Nigeria would be the most difficult task on earth.


Pity us..biko

My brother, it is already herculean at this time. You should be talking about a time when a near outright ban would be implemented. The good thing about the heavy restriction(s) the US has imposed on Nigerian travelers is that even the rich can no longer evade them. Those traveling to visit or give birth are sweating it out now because they are being denied or worse till, sent back even at the POE. Students seeking F1 visas are being denied in droves and if you succeed in coming in, they are keeping a very close eye on you through your school. The rules have become stringent and it is punishing those who have genuine plans, particularly the young and the sick.

krattoss:
its their loss if they dont ship to Nigeria.
There are other alternatives

We depend on them 4 several tins,

Na only rice importation them disband when everybody dey cry 4 Buhari head.

U are happy cos u haven't fall a victim or probably some1 close 2 u.

Segedinho:

Taking advantage on the detriment of majority is evil itself.

Ur questions on
this case should have been:
Are they guilty??

Should they be free cos of their skin colour??

What is left 4 the majority who are in 4 a legit biz as a Nigerian? ??

Should we applaud them 4 channelling their capability into negativity? ?

If I should rape ur sister to satisfy my sexual urge would u free me just cos I needed to take advantage directly/indirectly of the situation I find myself?

there are sure laws and penalties for every crime.
They themselves knows the penalty of their crime if caught.

What I dont subscribe to is the tribal and hypocritical comments melted on them by some folks like say them dont have any skeletons in their various closets.

Roland17:


My brother, it is already herculean at this time. You should be talking about a time when a near outright ban would be implemented. The good thing about the heavy restriction(s) the US has imposed on Nigerian travelers is that even the rich can no longer evade them. Those traveling to visit or give birth are sweating it out now because they are being denied or worse till, sent back even at the POE. Students seeking F1 visas are being denied in droves and if you succeed in coming in, they are keeping a very close eye on you through your school. The rules have become stringent and it is punishing those who have genuine plans, particularly the young and the sick.

Exactly my point

I find hard to blv some 1 is applauding this

Segedinho:

We depend on them 4 several tins,

Na only rice importation them disband when everybody dey cry 4 Buhari head.

U are happy cos u haven't fall a victim or probably some1 close 2 u.

either way,there will always be an alternative

krattoss:
there are sure laws and penalties for every crime.
They themselves knows the penalty of their crime if caught.

What I dont subscribe to is the tribal and hypocritical comments melted on them by some folks like say them dont have any skeletons in their various closets.

They penalty has widened and it is affecting the vast majority who are legit. .we don't and cannot blame countries 4m being stringent on us here...

Invictus who was a well respected entrepreneurs has killed a major part of our credibility,instead of trying to make amend....here comes the 80 wisemen

raumdeuter:


A time will come or its already here
Go embassy now and see story, enough people with good jobs, years of travel history are getting denied visas nowadays which wasn't like that before

After my most recent visit home in January, when I landed and at the POE in the US, you should see how they separated travelers with non-immigrant visas from US passport holders or Green Card holders. This one no be say dem tell me, I use my eyes see am korokoro how young people from different countries on F1 visas were grilled and some were denied entry right at the POE. You need to see the anxiety in the eyes of young men/ ladies on F1 visa because these guys are not joking and they don't have time for too much talk. Meanwhile, drivers sent from accepting school dey the other side with their name placards waiting for them to show up, sadly some may never make it in.

krattoss:
either way,there will always be an alternative

So we should applaud the 80 4 killing the direct and easy way of transparency? ??

Should we cast our votes 4 d unknown all in the name of alternative

Roland17:


After my most recent visit home in January, when I landed and at the POE in the US, you should see how they separated travelers with non-immigrant visas. This one no be say dem tell me, I use my eyes see am korokoro how young people from different countries on F1 visas were grilled and some were denied entry right at the POE. You need to see the anxiety in the eyes of young men/ ladies on F1 visa because these guys are not joking and they don't have time for too much talk. Meanwhile, drivers sent from accepting school dey the other side with their name placards waiting for them to show up, sadly some may never make it in.

krattoss you're a big disgrace and this is me being nice with my choice of words. How dare you justify the actions of those dimwitted fools and call the arrest witch hunt?
Some days ago myself and other Nigerians were on a Zoom meeting with a business partner, and from his voice I sensed panic because of atrocities like the one you're defending.

krattoss:
its their loss if they dont ship to Nigeria.
There are other alternatives

Stop defending this nonsense bro. We know the country is hard but what do you say for those that bolt and still get there and refuse to clean their act up. I hope it doesn't take you enduring disgraceful treatment at POE or losing real business opportunities because of our bad rap for you to open your eyes

Because from your posts it's pretty clear you don't travel anywhere

Segedinho:

They penalty has widened and it is affecting the vast majority who are legit. .we don't and cannot blame countries 4m being stringent on us here...

Invictus who was a well respected entrepreneurs has killed a major part of our credibility,instead of trying to make amend....here comes the 80 wisemen

that's it.
The hate and neglect giving to the yougins fvcks everyone.
The Americans themselves, are they not culprit of high tech spying, wasnt a spy drone connected to the USA shot down in Iran the other day?
Is America and CIA not the cause of vast major terrorist groups.
Havnt they been caught dropping arms to ISIS in Syria?
Libya is what it is today because of the usa and western propaganda.
They placed arms embargo on us, we had to go to Pakistan and Czech for arms and ammunition.

China usa trade war..is nigeria the cause of that?

U see,no one is a saint in this game..we all Yahoo guys one way or the other.

The most heinous crimes are sometimes perpetrated by all yall collar self claimed legits.

It's a dog eat dog world out there bro..its a survival of the fittest,
If the door refuses to open, it gats be broken either way

A40:
Stop defending this nonsense bro. We know the country is hard but what do you say for those that bolt and still get there and refuse to clean their act up. I hope it doesn't take you enduring disgraceful treatment at POE or losing real business opportunities because of our bad rap for you to open your eyes

Because from your posts it's pretty clear you don't travel anywhere

not everyone is a travel freak.
Why will someone living comfortably in his abode travel for?
Not like there aren't mass shooting and gang related wars out there..
If I lose a business or some opportunity because of slected punishments sins of others, so be it..
Another opportunity will still come

krattoss:
not everyone is a travel freak.
Why will someone living comfortably in his abode travel for?
Not like there aren't mass shooting and gang related wars out there..
If I lose a business or some opportunity because of slected punishments sins of others, so be it..
Another opportunity will still come

No wonder you're here justifying what is wrong. People that travel up and down did they tell you they are not living comfortably. Nigerians and our selfish mentality sha

Ko le ye e nisin, o ma ye e l'ola

Amoto94:
krattoss you're a big disgrace and this is me being nice with my choice of words. How dare you justify the actions of those dimwitted fools and call the arrest witch hunt?
Some days ago myself and other Nigerians were on a Zoom meeting with a business partner, and from his voice I sensed panic because of atrocities like the one you're defending.

bro, I owe u no shiit and I care less whose ox is gored.
I am not here to pleased nor be pleased so if u find my comments disgraceful thats your own cup of headache and doesn't in any way remove a hair from my body

A40:
No wonder you're here justifying what is wrong. People that travel up and down did they tell you they are not living comfortably. Nigerians and our selfish mentality sha

Ko le ye e nisin, o ma ye e l'ola

what is even right and what is even wrong?
You stay in your apartment and comfort, handpick what you deem fit is right and wrong and come here online to force it down my throat.

There are many things wrong and right, and you don't have any right whatsoever telling me what's right and wrong

krattoss:
bro, I owe u no shiit and I care less whose ox is gored.
I am not here to pleased nor be pleased so if u find my comments disgraceful thats your own cup of headache and doesn't in any way remove a hair from my body

The thing with your lots is when push comes to shove you will start blaming God and your ancestors for your self-inflicted woes. Continue you'll soon meet your Waterloo anumpama.

krattoss:
that's it.
The hate and neglect giving to the yougins fvcks everyone.
The Americans themselves, are they not culprit of high tech spying, wasnt a spy drone connected to the USA shot down in Iran the other day?
Is America and CIA not the cause of vast major terrorist groups.
Havnt they been caught dropping arms to ISIS in Syria?
Libya is what it is today because of the usa and western propaganda.
They placed arms embargo on us, we had to go to Pakistan and Czech for arms and ammunition.

China usa trade war..is nigeria the cause of that?

U see,no one is a saint in this game..we all Yahoo guys one way or the other.

The most heinous crimes are sometimes perpetrated by all yall collar self claimed legits.

It's a dog eat dog world out there bro..its a survival of the fittest,
If the door refuses to open, it gats be broken either way

U are trying ur best to justify "yahooism"

I must commend ur effort in doing so by citing several examples using high level occurence.

You partake in fraud 4m ur comment no doubt but are u really comfortable nipping ur neighbours dreams just so u can be satisfied? ??

Are u relaxed to scam someone just becos Afghanistan bombed Iran?

Do u run "yahooism" cos American have got spies??

Let me send a direct definition of yahooism to you..

It is the science/art of duping,stealing 419ing and total finishing of an unsuspecting victims of his/her life savings/hard earnings/life pension/hospital bills/borrowed monies using dubious and to some extent diabolical/ritual means just to satisfy personal urge n the detriment of other legit businessmen/women with good idea.

How do u sleep after all these?

I wish I can lay my hands on this krattos. Please just avoid me from now henceforth

krattoss:
what is even right and what is even wrong?
You stay in your apartment and comfort, handpick what you deem fit is right and wrong and come here online to force it down my throat.

There are many things wrong and right, and you don't have any right whatsoever telling me what's right and wrong

It's become pretty clear what you are from your vigorous defense of people who are making life difficult for everyone else.

Segedinho:

U are trying ur best to justify "yahooism"

I must commend ur effort in doing so by citing several examples using high level occurence.

You partake in fraud 4m ur comment no doubt but are u really comfortable nipping ur neighbours dreams just so u can be satisfied? ??

Are u relaxed to scam someone just becos Afghanistan bombed Iran?

Do u run "yahooism" cos American have got spies??

Let me send a direct definition of yahooism to you..

It is the science/art of duping,stealing 419ing and total finishing of an unsuspecting victims of his/her life savings/hard earnings/life pension/hospital bills/borrowed monies using dubious and to some extent diabolical/ritual means just to satisfy personal urge n the detriment of other legit businessmen/women with good idea.

How do u sleep after all these?

Must be one of those Naira Marley boys.

Segedinho:

U are trying ur best to justify "yahooism"

I must commend ur effort in doing so by citing several examples using high level occurence.

You partake in fraud 4m ur comment no doubt but are u really comfortable nipping ur neighbours dreams just so u can be satisfied? ??

Are u relaxed to scam someone just becos Afghanistan bombed Iran?

Do u run "yahooism" cos American have got spies??

Let me send a direct definition of yahooism to you..

It is the science/art of duping,stealing 419ing and total finishing of an unsuspecting victims of his/her life savings/hard earnings/life pension/hospital bills/borrowed monies using dubious and to some extent diabolical/ritual means just to satisfy personal urge n the detriment of other legit businessmen/women with good idea.

How do u sleep after all these?

I want to ask you a question.

Have you at a point in your lifetime, manoeuvred,taking advantage of,stolen or collected anyone's valuable, monetary or otherwise directly or indirectly?
If you answer this honesty, then we can continue our discussion

A40:
It's become pretty clear what you are from your vigorous defense of people who are making life difficult for everyone else.

you are very very very far from the truth

eph12:
I wish I can lay my hands on this krattos. Please just avoid me from now henceforth

what will you do if you lay your hands on me?
We can fix a meeting if you like..

Am in imsu owerri

krattoss:
I want to ask you a question.

Have you at a point in your lifetime, manoeuvred,taking advantage of,stolen or collected anyone's valuable, monetary or otherwise directly or indirectly?
If you answer this honesty, then we can continue our discussion

I have never done robbery neither have i put the closest person''s life into jeopardy


I have increase the price of my goods hoping the buyers beat it down but alas he never did.

I have had reasons to scam or run shits 4 my personal gain but the taught of what might begat the victims kills me faster.

I have done many wrongs like increase the money 4 a bag of cements/Sands 4 building with a max of 300 nd 1000 respectively.

krattoss:
what will you do if you lay your hands on me?
We can fix a meeting if you like..

Am in imsu owerri

I will quote this so that when they are looking for you they will know where to find you. I hope to read your story on front-page soon bro