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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:42pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Ginalex: Hmm, have you also joined them, na waooo. Did you realise that your sister that you're trying to defend was one of the reasons I made a detailed clarification on demons and levels, cos she was mixing Lucifer with Azazel and beelzebub, she even thanked me after i made the clarification and went ahead to say that I didn't tag her in the rest, but suddenly turned against me. Maybe you can go as far back as between page 52-63 and confirm. Didn't Paul talk about the different level of demons, Didn't the Bible say the devil left with 1/3 of God's angels. Why have you decided to join in this issues. I expected more from you. If you are no more comfortable with my posts it's better you unfollow than join the bandwagon or didn't you notice that most of this things were a result of questions asked after the end of the cultism posts. I harbour no ill feelings towards you. God bless. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Mariangeles(f): 10:56pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:Nobody is attacking you . The main point is leave all that demonic talks aside for the bible says " And ye are complete in Him, which is the head of all principality and power " Talk more about Jesus Christ and the power in Him . 3 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:59pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Mariangeles: Wow, most of the ladies that have faithfully this thread are now looking for faults where no fault is. Na waooo. The 7 seven sons of sceva knew that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, and they tried delivering a demon possessed man and he gave them a hot chase and tore their clothing. Did you read the entire thing or were you just looking for your own fault. If you don't contact the Spirit behind the word, if you like quote scriptures 1000 times , demons will make a mockery of you. You know the word of God and yet i won't be surprised that you've taken drugs this year, despite knowing we were healed by His stripes, why didn't you quote scriptures when you were sick. I won't reply again, if you continue the arguments and same goes to others. God bless. 9 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Mariangeles(f): 11:08pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:The seven sons of sceva were exorcist, not Christians. They were not believers. They were not baptized with the power Holy ghost . There is nothing wrong with a Christian taking medicines...it all depends on your Faith You still have some maturing to achieve in the Word ! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:09pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Mariangeles: My sister this is the last reply I'll give you and if you continue this way, I'll totally ignore you like i've decided to ignore some, cos I don't like unnecessary bickering. Did I just start talking about witchcraft or was I asked about it. FYI, if I'm asked more questions I'll answer, except it's something I don't know about, cos the thread is still opened for such questions. I opened a thread to discuss the place, power and authority of christians, but arguments like this made me abandon it. You can unfollow, since you're too matured to be here. God bless 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:15pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
The devil has deceived gullible Christians who argue of things they know nothing about, thinking they know something, but they actually know nothing. People have been shouting here saying I'm talking about the depths of satan, when they don't even know what Jesus meant by the depth of Satan. What did Jesus mean by the depth of Satan? 7 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:20pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Mariangeles: The issue isn't wether they were Christians or not, but the issue I'm making is that they knew the word of God, Off course there is nothing wrong in taking drugs, but you're of little faith that's why you take drugs, cos you don't really know who you're in Christ. Paul never sought drugs when he was bitten by a serpent. I've given you enough attention. By for now. t really know who you 6 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:25pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
In the early days of the church, there were those who believed they had received a strange kind of illumination which was far better than what the normal christians had, this people called their knowledge the depth of God, but Jesus termed it the depth of Satan in Revelation 2. These people were known as Gnostics. what was gnosticism? A philosophical and religious system of teaching that knowledge rather than faith is the key to salvation. 4 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:31pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
9 points in gnosticism- ( depth of Satan) 1- The attempt in solving the problems of creation and the origin of evil by a creator as being distinct from the supernatural God. 2- That the old testament were the product of the inferior creator God who was the God of the Jews, but not the true and supernatural God. 3- A denial of the personality of the Supreme God. 4- A denial of man's free will. 5- The separation of matter and spirit, the flesh being sinful and the source of all evil. 4 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:38pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
6- A claim that spiritual communion with God is attained through asceticism or denial of pleasures and comfort of life and on the other hand, an indifference to sin leading to failure and licentiousness. 7- A claim to a higher and special knowledge as superior to faith and an insight into nee light which the ordinary believer didn't possess. 8- A combination of certain Christian doctrines with various pagan philosophies to tone down the distinction between them 5 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Mariangeles(f): 11:43pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:@the bolded, wrong again ! The sons of sceva knew little or nothing about the Word of God . They just knew that the name Jesus was popular and effective , and then decided to use it . 3 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:51pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
9- A denial of the humanity of Jesus Christ looking upon the life of Christ and especially His sufferings on the cross as unreal. This is why John the beloved wrote 2nd John vs 7-11, and it's why he also wrote something about it in his first epistle to debunk their claims( 1st John 4:2-3) This is actually what Jesus meant by the depth of Satan and not what some illuminati preachers have deceived people to believe so that satan and his works wouldn't be exposed. God bless 7 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:59pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Mariangeles: You're becoming a tool in the hand of the devil. I'm extremely disappointed in your show up this night. I don't normally exchange words with people, but the truth is I never expected this from you. The Bible says at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, the sons of sceva knew that cos they had seen Paul cast out devils in Jesus name and that's the word of God I'm talking about. I'm highly disappointed in you. God blesss the word of God I 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by PenGriffey: 12:07am On Aug 28, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:Let him be. He has gotten enough attention he doesn't deserve. 4 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OCTAVO: 12:41am On Aug 28, 2019 |
@EnthronedbyGod, you don't have to be disappointed in anyone. That's human being for you! We all have the right to think differently. You've expressed your views here, they are free to express theirs, no big deal. We can't all think alike! It's normal. Most people opposing your views are obviously not seeing things from your angle, you can't blame them at all. Our relationship and encounters with GOD differs. Some will claim they know the scriptures yet they will be taking paracetamol for ordinary headache (I'm not against taking drugs), but what happened to not having headache or falling ill at all? If they truly know scriptures... If you check some people's bag, you'll find different drugs there, yet they know scriptures. I personally know there's more to knowing scriptures, it doesn't end there. Scriptures without power to back it is emptiness. I just pray everyone will encounter GOD genuinely. Please do not be discouraged in what you are doing here. Guess what, they don't like what you are doing, but the truth is that they won't unfollow either. 10 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 2:52am On Aug 28, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:My Lord and my God! @OkCornel I hope you've now seen why I've repeatedly said God was behind this idea and the one that led you to persist with this even though I had already moved on from it? My bro EnthronedbyGod, I know that we have certain areas on which we disagree concerning spiritual matters, but one thing I must give to you is that you are being led by the Spirit of God, for that something that distinguishes the difference between you and many here, because you can see how in spite of our differences, God has not left you out of what He was doing. And you can remember my response Immediately after your confirmation of the appearance of Jesus in those photos, about how those who are led by the Spirit of God hardly get it wrong. Something some persons here who are attacking you now concerning me and those pics, don't know is that if were up to you alone, that I wouldn't have come back and yet be on this thread. Because despite the extent of similarities in our experiences, preparations and revelations, your such opinion has clearly shown itself to be more or less on the same page with those who have been attacking me on this thread, and this also reflected In your reaction after I left. But then you said something that transpired while you were speaking in tongues, which made you realize that you were still praying for me(which I don't yet clearly understand), and here I am, because that was what brought me back here. In other words it was because you were being led by the Holy Ghost, if not I wouldn't be here now. And it's the same Holy Ghost while you were yet speaking in tongues, that led you to the said thread of mine where those Jesus pics were posted by @Okcornel, so that you would come and confirm it, and also use it to show to others the face of Jesus you said you saw in your dreams and visions. And something also very key here is the timing, because those pics had been there for about three days while I waited to get back the image of the Jesus i saw fully back into my memory so as to be sure, yet it was immediately after I had confirmed it that you came there as if timed to perfection. I told bro @OkCornel about this at the time, that it was God who brought you there, even before I heard your own side of the story. I believe you should also see that this question I asked you is by the Holy Ghost, for it was important that many here heard this to clarify the misleading views about this. Let me tell you something bro, since that day I talked about praying for you, I don't think there's any single day that I have not prayed for you and thanked God for bringing you here, because even when I I left here at the time, despite seeing your glaring support for my departure and those behind it, I didn't stop praying for you. And I had never for once haboured any single thought that you were not of God needless say call you a chalartan even in my mind, because I had seen and heard enough to tell that you're not just one of the many called by God, but one of His chosen few for the last mighty move of God upon the Earth. The similarities are overwhelming bro, for it seems those who God is going to use for His last move, because of the distinctive extent of the Spirit they are going to be entrusted with, are being separated from the church and single-handedly trained by the Holy Ghost Himself, for I heard you talk about being taught most of what you know by the Holy Ghost, i want you to know that same applies here for i have been saying that long before I ever knew you. It was the Holy Ghost that taught me about Himself not man. And there are many things you've said here concerning your experiences and revelations, that I wanted to corroborate, but then that storm came and afterwards I couldn't because I didn't want to give the naysayers much to chew upon, but bro know it for certain that God is truly behind you and what you're doing here, and there is nothing the gates of hell can prevail against you. Btw bro please take it easy on those who you know have backed you here from the onset, even though they express a contrary opinion to yours, for they are also entitled to their own opinion. Nonetheless i urge you to do what the Spirit leads you to do. God bless. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by adaperry25: 2:58am On Aug 28, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:please reply my mail |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 3:35am On Aug 28, 2019 |
I think the confusion here concerning the Word of God, comes from the fact that knowing about the Word of God, or the letters of the Word of God, is different from knowing the Word of God. For the Word of God is the Truth, and anyone who Know the Truth shall be set free. John 8:32 (KJV) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. But many are still in bondage and are not set free because they only know about the Truth, and the letters of the Truth, but not the Truth, which is the Word of God. I believe for one to know the Truth, which is the Word of God, one has to graduate from the point of just hearing the Word of God and knowing the letters of the Word of God to keeping the Word of God, for it's that fruit of obedience that equates to knowledge of the Word of God which is the Truth that sets one free. For that's what Satan and all his demons respect and consider, not just knowing the letters and about the Word of God without doing what it instructs. God bless. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Mariangeles(f): 6:24am On Aug 28, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:I see that you hate being corrected. Anybody who tries is "a tool in the hands of the devil" Your word is final abi ? Ok The devil can use others but not you ... 5 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 7:19am On Aug 28, 2019 |
wealthywiseman:Praying with the rosary and it working for you doesn't mean it is right. Or else you are saying that incantations are also right cos they work. 4 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 7:31am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Mariangeles:Please my sis, abeg no vex. You have made your point and you're entitled to it. I know you're offended by his reaction to it, but that means he's heard it, so please let it slide for the greater good. Thanks for understanding. God bless. 1 Like |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:07am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Mariangeles: Lol... my dear, good observation there. It doesn't mean the devil is using you at all. EnthronedbyGod will apologize, I don't think it's his intention to offend you on purpose. As a matter of fact, both you and the OP are correct even though it looks as though you are contradicting yourselves. Is the word of God powerful? Yes, with insight from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will bring to your memory the perfect word to address that very situation at that point in time. That communication between you and the Holy Spirit is what prayer truly is (a two way communication between you and God) Without insight from the Holy Spirit, quote a thousand scriptures and see those words as empty as chaff. Recall the scenario of the temptation of Jesus. Satan quoted the word of God. Jesus also quoted the word of God. Who triumphed eventually? Jesus. Why? He had insight from the Spirit of God. Remember, it was that very same Spirit of God that led Jesus into the wilderness to fast for 40 days and night. 5 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Enkaynwa(f): 9:19am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Mariangeles: I have been following this thread silently. Let me clarify.. The op didn't just start talking of 'all that demonic talks' just like that. Before he started his story, he said he wouldn't want to go into details so as not to magnify the devil. When he finished his story, he said the thread is still open for questions. someone then asked the question on witches and their operations. That was how it all began. Someone again mistook Lucifer for Azazel, but the op clarified that. That was how we got here. I wish to state that I have been enlightened by these teaching. Cos my eyes has been opened to many happenings in my life. I now know how to direct my prayers. I believe there are so many ghost readers here that can attest to this fact. 25 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 9:33am On Aug 28, 2019 |
PenGriffey: It's a lady and not a guy. Thanks for your concern. God bless 5 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by madprophet(m): 9:39am On Aug 28, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod: I think this is totally not nice.. I know you said this at the heat of the moment but please take it easy. Let just try and manage our tempers God be with us 3 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 9:44am On Aug 28, 2019 |
OCTAVO: I'm truly disappointed, but not offended. How can they grow beyond the level they are, when they have decided to hold fast to their ignorance. Some of the people antagonising me here have spiritual husband/wife problems, but pride will not let them humble themselves to seek solution, but rather they'll be bragging with empty words of how they are set in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. Some of them are suffering from recurring sicknesses inflicted on them by witchcraft powers , yet pride will not allow them seek solution. These last 2 statements I just made is inspired, they can deny all they want, but this is the truth. God bless 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 9:46am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Enkaynwa: God bless 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by CaveAdullam: 9:52am On Aug 28, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod:Let them keep turning on their own. Who nor go my brother nor know. Keep up with your good works Jare.... Lol Thanks. God bless you there. 3 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 9:54am On Aug 28, 2019 |
madprophet: That wasn't at the heat of the moment. Most of the things i said last night, came to me even before I logged in. When I had an argument with you, I said something I felt wasn't right and I apologised. That was spoken immediately as it came to me and i typed it. There's nothing wrong in that statement People claim what they are not, this is why people find it hard to get disentangled from their problems. I'm not angry though, cos I know this is all orchestrated by the devil. Thanks for your concern. 4 Likes |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 9:58am On Aug 28, 2019 |
jesusjnr: It is well 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by tomtween1(m): 10:12am On Aug 28, 2019 |
EnthronedbyGod: so a witch cannot harm someone he/she has little or no knowledge about? 1 Like |
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 10:16am On Aug 28, 2019 |
OkCornel: I'm sorry bro, I won't apologise, cos I don't apologise when I'm led. Jesus didn't apologise to Peter. The English man says over familiarity breeds contempt. The Bible says Jesus didn't commit Himself to men, cos He knew them. This was necessary so that those who are using their opposing views to hinder this work could leave peacefully. I and the lady aren't saying thesame thing at all, for insight can not amount to familiarity with scriptures. insight is a work of the Spirit of truth opening the understanding of an obedient disciple of Christ, while familiarity with scriptures is just mental assent. The devil isn't moved by ones familiarity with scriptures for he knows it better, but rather in ones insight. 12 Likes 1 Share |
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