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| P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by 9jatriot(op): 1:10pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
This case is too confusing as each day passes. P&ID claim they signed a deal with Addax to supply them gas to only God knows where because there is no structure anywhere that P&ID has claimed to have built. According to P&ID, Addax breached their agreement, so why are they suing the FG and not suing the Addax, anybody who understands this part can please explain. Secondly, if all the parties have representatives in Nigeria, why on earth are we in a court in the UK, does it mean we can also get a court in Nigeria to command the CBN in the UK to just pay us money and it will be binding? Invictus scam was around $60 million and we de shout yet one P&ID want to scam us over $9 billion. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by FSBoperator: 1:25pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
[s] 9jatriot:[/s] Go and ask Barkindo who drafted this contract that was meant to either benefit P&ID or result in court settlement. When you begin to realise that the contract was meant to compensate the cabal and p&id was their shell company. Keep asking dumb ass questions. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by FarahAideed: 1:31pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
9jatriot:So contract that was discussed and approved at FEC and signed off by the president is now Addax contract? |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by 9jatriot(op): 1:35pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
Hopefully, someone more sensible than the two persons above will be able to throw more light. Someone who understands the working of the Oil and gas industry. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by Tianamen1: 1:54pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
9jatriot:from what i read, P&ID wrote a proposal to the federal government and proposed that the contract could be carried out on several different sites. the Addax site was then chosen since it had sufficient wet gas that it was flaring. someone in the federal government decided to bypass P&ID and gave the project to Addax. i believe this is what caused the grievance, so whoever in the federal government who decided to scam P&ID by replacing them with Addax is responsible for this mess and Nigeria is liable to pay P&ID compensation. when you act in a rascal manner and your rascality becomes normal, it becomes extremely difficult to differentiate right from wrong. As the saying goes, 99 days for the thief, one (1) day for the owner. In Nigeria, a person would write a proposal and the proposal will then be giving to another person. well it seems P&ID wrote a water tight contract and true to our governments nature, no one cared to read the fine prints. P&ID have every right to sue the Nigerian government in a British court because they probably pay taxes in Britain and also the Nigerian government has assets in Britain that can be seized as compensation. i am no lawyer, but can clearly see that we are liable. what we should be fully debating is negotiating down the penalty as it would ruin our finances. in order to fully negotiate this deal, prosecuting the defaulting parties and other government officials that contributed to this debacle will serve as a good faith gesture towards P&ID and other prospective investors/entrepreneurs, thus showing that Nigeria means business and that it is willing to change its ways. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by 9jatriot(op): 2:14pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
I don't know if you have read this: https://www.icirnigeria.org/inside-story-of-the-botched-p-id-gas-agreement/ It clearly says that the breach was as a result of Addax not being able to supply the agreed gas to P&ID. See the extra here n a letter, dated 10 March 2011, NAPIMS informed P & ID that Addax Petroleum was unable to supply the required amount of 150 MMSCuFD of wet gas from OML 123 for Phase 1 of the project because they required 50 MMSCuFD of lean gas for reinjection in OML 123.See full article here: FOLLOWING a United Kingdom court judgement granting Irish owned firm Process and Industrial Developments Ltd, P & ID, rights to claim $9 billion worth of assets, the Nigerian government is likely to suffer great loss amounting to one-fifth of its foreign reserves.Some who understands the whole thing better can help. Tianamen1: |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by Proudlyngwa(m): 2:50pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
The thing self is confusing, I want to know what exactly are we paying this guys for, had it been there was gas supplied by addax, was there any installed facility to receive it. How can we pay for we are no more interested. The contract was cancelled because the previous administration saw it as not feasible, why was it no more feasible. Why didn't they pay off. Posterity will judge the past administration |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by Tianamen1: 5:41pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
i just reread the article again. this is what i can understand. Addax was willing to supply 100 (whatever) of wet gas since it needed 50 (whatever) to produce lean gas for its use in the oil field. total flared wet gas was 168 (whatever). P&ID suggested that they would produce the 50 (whatever) lean gas for Addax so therefore, there should be no issue. after all agreements have been signed, Addax now decided to process the whole 168 (whatever) of wet gas by itself. P&ID appealed to the FG through diezani, but got no redress. they cancelled the deal and proceeded to court. P&ID claims to have spent over 27 million dollars on the preliminary investigation phase of the project. also P&ID has also spent years working on the project. P&ID rightly sued the Nigerian government which is the rightful owner of the wet gas in OML 123 for failure to deliver on its contractual agreement. the questions we should be asking are: 1 has Addax gone ahead to develop the said project 2 why was the project taking away from P&ID 3 did any nigerian benefit from the failure to execute this project 4 are there currently any steps we can take to reduce the fine 5 has P&ID ever sued any sovereign body before. after all, the parent company has been in existence for over 30 years. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by blujoi(m): 12:19am On Sep 03, 2019 |
Thank you for looking at this issue dispassionately. I tried to explain these issues to folks here but they were more interested in labeling it a scam, and looking for who to blame. The Nigerian government and the bunch of incompetent people at the hierarchy of all government agencies behave and act in a rascally manner. The reason the proposal was given to Addax I strongly believe was due to the major promoter of P&ID, Rilwan Lukman was dead, so their project was hijacked. The logical step for the Nigerian government is to negotiate with P&ID and stop the grandstanding. Tianamen1: |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by Nobody: 12:34am On Sep 03, 2019 |
FarahAideed:Michael Aoandokoa Attorney General at the time said it was never brough before FEC. And remember Yardua was in Saudi Hospital at the time getting treated for his kidney ailment. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by FarahAideed: 1:08am On Sep 03, 2019 |
ChiefkeefGB4:Thats why Buhari should have sent a legal team earlier to court intead of ignoring earlier proceedings |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by dalongjnr: 5:22am On Sep 03, 2019 |
FarahAideed:Which FEC are u talking about? The deal was between NNPC & P&ID. I'm always sad when people with your kind of mindset writes on this forum. Imagined, that almost 39% of your country's budget is about to be stolen by a company that it's main aim was to scam the entire country and you are supporting that because of your biased minded attitude! If minimum wage is no paid, civil servants are not paid n no visible infrastructural development is done then you will cry blue murder n insults the government as usual. $9.1 billion is expected to tackles about 10-15% transportation infrastructural deficit in the country and 15% power need or 16 % of health needs of the country's budget deficits independently. Pls just reason it! I don't know how old are u but I believed the as far as Biafra, oduduwa,... Are not independent then you are still a Nigerian and you should be concern about this dreadful development. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by Nobody: 5:25am On Sep 03, 2019 |
dalongjnr:The $9 billion will still be looted by Nigeria's fantastically corrupt politicians that is why most Nigerians are indifferent. P&ID should not be paid a penny because it will set a precendence and Nigeria will keep getting swindled by shell companies registerd in tax havens. |
| Re: P&ID $9bn Judgement Debt: Why Is The Case Not Being Treated As P&ID Vs Addax? by dalongjnr: 6:01am On Sep 03, 2019 |
ChiefkeefGB4:You are very correct on that. At least, the country's interest be protected from those international vultures and Hawks. If it's the politicians and Nigerians, I feels that MAJORITY of Nigerians are not ready for good governance yet, if not, they knows what to do! As I'm writing this, they have taken Nigerian government in Paris commercial court for a deal concerning mambila hydroelectric power project,claiming $2.8 billion damage,for a dam that is to be constructed at a cost of 5.2-5.8 billion(mean $5.6billion). |
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