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Let us thread with caution, my fellow people, don't let us hurt ourselves thinking we are hurting others.. that's all my people

Cc lalasticlala

Then what do u say about the twit and post from south africans all over the internet

What are u trying to achieve ...if u spent 20 years in south africa u should know tanzanians are the ones who sell drugs on the street

U havent said ur mind open up let the hate out

Nairalanders in South Africa should please react to write-up to guide people in Nigeria get better grasp of the issues at hand.

This is a flat lie, I have a friend in Pretoria,South Africa ...he confirmed that Nigerians and Foreigners were being attacked and killed their reason being that Nigerians are taking over their jobs and women

Bullshiit we haven't seen any drugs in those Nigerian shops looted, south Africans themselves are drug dealers it's not that easy for An outsider to smuggle drugs into south Africa without help from South Africans themselves

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I understand the op, but I still blame the Ng Govt for lack of strategy, snail speed intervention....
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what's the function NIA sef, they should have seen this trend before it escalates & advice/take proactive steps..
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Bubu's case is a matter for another day....the guy jus Taya me

Who composed this write up

[4/9, 6:49 am] ***: Hmmm.


This is deep!
The reason I am skeptical about trending things. There is always one sided narrative.

Thanks for sharing, it is informative. I have a sibling in South Africa and he tells me things too.
[4/9, 6:50 am] ***: Someone in Capetown also told me they only see the stuffs on TV like us too.
[4/9, 6:51 am] ***: May ALLAAH save us from persuading narrative. And when you raise an alarm, you become the target for attacks.

These are testimonies from where I copied this from, the thing is that, surely they would be some xenophobia involved and some hate in some places, but it's not as we have been believed to see it...

I sincerely urge for caution so as not to blame ourselves later on.. the truth is, informations in the world now have two sides to it, and to get correct information now really is difficult

Deepfeel:
Bullshiit we haven't seen any drugs in those Nigerian shops looted, south Africans themselves are drug dealers it's not that easy for An outsider to smuggle drugs into south Africa without help from South Africans themselves

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Did you hear about the "Ozibulu killing" sometime ago?
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it's still same Nigerian/SA drug Lord's that came to naija to settle scores, some innocent people died then,
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I believe the op is "correct to an extent".... but our govt is still slow & almost useless in every issue as usual

Privateschoolre:
Below is the account of someone residing in South Africa:

Alhaji Rasheed Sir,

In addition to your earlier assertion here is another facts! Though no byline!

I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.

- These same guys being paraded as Nigerians under attack are the same guys who HATE everything PMB stands for. If you visit their hag outs (we sometimes buy food there) and talk about Buhari, they can kill you, literarily. Why? because they hate what he stands for and they hate that he is saying we should become good citizens.

- Communities fighting to save themselves should not.be hushed but.helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

look,most of us nigerians know this stuffs already....

when you lived abroad,we know what you are sayin is true....

but not all nigerians are into drugs stuff....

this was what we were tryin to explain to south africans for years....

we dont care about criminal nigerians....what bothers us is innocent nigerians caught in the cross fire....

innocent nigerians like you....your life is worth defendin....thats all we are sayin....


south africans must learn to differentiate....

lebanese were caught red handed and nigerians didnt go on rampage attackin all lebanese people....

chinese were caught red handed in kenya and kenyans didnt go on an rampage attackin all chinese....

south africans must learn....

Deepfeel:
Bullshiit we haven't seen any drugs in those Nigerian shops looted, south Africans themselves are drug dealers it's not that easy for An outsider to smuggle drugs into south Africa without help from South Africans themselves

Don't mind those useless South Africans,they are only using that excuse to justify killings,envy and hatred...Although we might have our own internal problems and we might not be happy with the way things are running in Nigeria but we must all condemn this if not for anything but to send a signal to all other countries that Nigerians should never be taken for granted. The see finish just too much ,am sad

Nonsense write up!

What stops the South African police from the tackling the drug dealers head on? Who are those assisting the cartels import such amount of cocaine pass the borders? Who are those in higher places assisting the drug dealers in their trade? The truth remains that the South African government are not doing their job.

You blame others for running prostituition ring in your country, but you forgot that your youths are naturally wayward and exhibit sexual tendencies. Did these foreign teach you how to rape your sisters and mothers? Did the foreigners made South Africa the headquarters of HIV and lazy people?

The so called vigilante as you want us to believe, are among the worst drug consumers? Lazy people who feeds on drugs and turn around to go loot shops under drug influence.

Let the South Africans deal with the societal problem bedevilling them as other countries are doing and not push the buck. Solve your societal problem, be tough on drug users and drug cartels.
Teach your citizens the value of hardwork and not sitting idle and messing around.

And the authorities can not fish out the people selling drugs and doing frauds, leaving their duty to the citizens to attack foreigners right ?

Why can't US citizens start attacking Nigerians instead of FBI making arrest for fraud ,drugs and other related crimes by Nigerians.

This is absolutely not right...

justtoodark:
look,most of us nigerians know this stuffs already....

when you lived abroad,we know what you are sayin is true....

but not all nigerians are into drugs stuff....

this was what we were tryin to explain to south africans for years....

we dont care about criminal nigerians....what bothers us is innocent nigerians caught in the cross fire....

innocent nigerians like you....your life is worth defendin....thats all we are sayin....


south africans must learn to differentiate....

lebanese were caught red handed and nigerians didnt go on rampage attackin all lebanese people....

chinese were caught red handed in kenya and kenyans didnt go on an rampage attackin all chinese....

south africans must learn....

All is well

what type of drugs?

marijuana, methapthamine

tramadol or codeine

juvewalex:
And the authorities can not fish out the people selling drugs and doing frauds, leaving their duty to the citizens to attack foreigners right ?

Why can't US citizens start attacking Nigerians instead of FBI making arrest for drugs and other related crimes by Nigerians.

This is absolutely not right...

U dey mind the chatterbox? Every Tom, Dick & Harry sha want to use this xenophobic bullshit stay relevant. Infact, that ur US citizen & FBI point too make sense. Too much sense no go keel u bruh.

2rez:
U dey mind the chatterbox? Every Tom, Dick & Harry sha want to use this xenophobic bullshit stay relevant. Infact, that ur US citizen & FBI point too make sense. Too much sense no go keel u bruh.

Bro, I just tire for some Nigerians trying to justify unjustifiable...

So what about the yoruba lady that made a video? is she also a drug dealer or a lovepeddler?

OP your post is loop-sided and exposed the incompetence of the SA Police force.
How can you tell me that where the Police failed in apprehending the drug cartels is where barbaric hunting and destroying of so called drug cells will work?
What these hooligans trying to "cleanse" their communities are doing will not breed a good future for SA
This so called Xenophobic attack is an annual thing in SA and the government of SA cannot device a means of handling it. Do you want to tell me the SA Police did not get any intelligence report before the attacks?
Please OP stop making it look like Nigerians are solely responsible for the drug market in SA
The SA Police should buckle up and do its work instead of making baseless reasons for its incompetence.
OP are you aware that the Deputy Minister of Police Affairs made a public statement condemning 80% foreigners dominated City in SA at this period of the attack

Homeboiy:
what type of drugs?


marijuana, methapthamine


tramadol or codeine

chaiii....how do you know all this drugs and their exact names....??

Don't they have law enforcement agencies?? Why must they take law into their hands?

Liftkid:
So what about the yoruba lady that made a video? is she also a drug dealer or a lovepeddler?

she is just a victim of stereotypes....

you just cant justifie what south africans are doing....

no way you can defend those moroons....

if we used their views then all of us in the world deserve death....

Op is slow

I also lived in South Africa for a while and I can boldly tell you that everything you wrote is bullshit.

There's nothing like community vigilante or bullshit in South Africa

Those guys are simply robbing honest business people who employs South Africans and pay taxes.

Even in a report by the Aljasera News Network yesterday, a white South African who is a victim of the mob action stated that his shop was looted despite the fact that he only employs South Africans, while a Pakistani victim also said something similar.

I know some South African coy will start sponsoring Propaganda to protect their interest in Nigeria but please don't take Nigerians for a fool.

Privateschoolre:
Below is the account of someone residing in South Africa:

Alhaji Rasheed Sir,

In addition to your earlier assertion here is another facts! Though no byline!

I know the SA thing is paining you as you say, also me too. But please hear my perspective:

I have lived in SA for almost 20 years.

What you see as pure xenophobia is actually community Vigilantism gone wrong or hijacked by criminals.

Some of the shops looted and destroyed are actually covers for a serious crime.

Some of our brothers take over entire areas and turn them into drug markets. But because the law in SA does not allow police to arrest criminals unless with evidence or unless shot at, so what happens is the drug guys hide these drugs in shops, restaurants etc and use as a face.
There are up to 30 public "drug" markets in Joburg alone. These are areas where 50 to 200 Nigerians converge on street corners to sell drugs. That's just in Johannesburg, and excludes other places.
The community knows and they try to inform the police. Sometimes these guys get arrested and bribe their way out when it fails the community takes laws into their hands.

Nigerians are not being targetted per se. The target is street drug dealers and yahoo boys who are mostly Nigerian.

Personally, in an area of Johannesburg, some years ago, drug dealers almost took over my property. We bought it and in the process of renovation, they invaded it and turned it into a drug hotel. It took God to evict them without being killed. It was led by Nigerians. In that property, there were families with women and children.

One strategy of selling drugs is to befriend young secondary school.Girls and introduce them. They get hooked and they start stealing and prostitution to feed the habit. Soon the entire area deteriorates.
Now, why I am sharing this with you is that the drug dealers are distracting attention. They are trying to make the Nigerian Government arise in anger and defend "Nigerians" ie defend drug dealers. if they succeed, they'd have staged a powerful coup. They'd have entered an official mafioso level, protected by Government.

Please see the article below: The Nigeria ambassador to SA said the majority of killings are perpetrated by fellow Nigerians. It's a drug turf war. he is right. I know some who've been killed.

So how can we accuse others of killing us when we are perpetrating it?

Those videos and pictures circulating of Nigerians in SA- how is it that we are shown only in the light of guys on the street? I know top Robotics engineers in SA, I know people in Top IT firms, developers, in Amazon, Google etc, I know top bankers, property company owners, many doctors, Superintendent of hospitals, professors, Pastors, etc.

So in summary here are my thoughts

- A vast majority of upright Nigerians in SA are very comfortable. They are doctors, teachers, business owners, etc. If we don't get the right story, we can set off a diplomatic war, everything collapses and these guys become targets. Currently, they are not being targetted by anyone. many are married to South Africans. Some head Government agencies and private companies.

- Yes, there are some xenophobic South Africans, but just like we fought against stigmatizing Fulani, we must also fight against stigmatizing South Africans. There are VERY many good South Africans, who don't buy into any form of oppression. Let us encourage our government to join with the South African Government and carry out a security raid on drug dealers.

If the Government announces this, you will see they will flee because they'll know the cover is blown! xenophobic attacks will reduce 95%.

The biggest donation event in the history of SA was in 2007 when people gave to victims of xenophobic attacks. The amount given was a record. It shows that the nation is not buying into that mindset.

- Please use your powerful platform to create a voice for good Nigerians in SA. You will be surprised. Many are afraid to talk because even Nigerian organizations in SA are infiltrated and even controlled by drug dealers and kingpins. No one wants to be killed. These guys are very powerful.

- These same guys being paraded as Nigerians under attack are the same guys who HATE everything PMB stands for. If you visit their hag outs (we sometimes buy food there) and talk about Buhari, they can kill you, literarily. Why? because they hate what he stands for and they hate that he is saying we should become good citizens.

- Communities fighting to save themselves should not.be hushed but.helped to do it in a better way. Not jungle justice.
- Yes the SA Government must not also be left without responsibility in the matter, they should be tasked to step up their game too. While Nigeria targets drug dealers and yahoo buys, South Africa should target miscreants and criminals in a joint operation. SA Government also needs to purge bad eggs in its police force who are compromised. It Also needs to take its own share of blame for unemployment, poverty and economic challenges and social issues that allow drugs to be demanded.

I close with a prophecy by Pa Elton

"Africa is like a gun, Nigeria is like a trigger, South Africa is like a barrel

South Africa will be free. It will partner with Nigeria.

When that happens, Africa will arise and lead the world in many ways."

This prophecy was given in the hight of apartheid when it seemed impossible. Today it is half done South Africa has more bilateral agreements with Nigeria than any other nation on earth. We MUST NOT allow miscreants and criminals on both sides to hinder it, because if our national relationship fails, Africa will fail.

This is Buhari's "Mandela" moment. Will he rise up and shake off the pain and anger and mobilize Africa to unify or will he take a position that reverses the building of unity? I think he will do the right thing by God's grace, but I also believe publicizing the truth will help him and citizens.

I am open to discuss with you further on this matter, and if you feel the need to publish the above anonymously, please feel free. And if you want to do a tour to SA, I'll host you and we can go out and do a strategic mapping. I'll show you things that will make you see another perspective.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140022.html

I gave him the benefit of doubt but finally he didn't disappoint me. Na them

Are you sure this person is even Nigerian..? You might be South African on a low trying to defend the lazy and dumb set of people without getting called out for it...

PresidentAde:
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Did you hear about the "Ozibulu killing" sometime ago?
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it's still same Nigerian/SA drug Lord's that came to naija to settle scores, some innocent people died then,
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I believe the op is "correct to an extent".... but our govt is still slow & almost useless in every issue as usual

Guy so you believed this Ozibulu killing story about drugs, Choi... If I talk now, they will say I don insult you

I remain skeptical about this whole thing

Alitair:
Are you sure this person is even Nigerian..? You might be South African on a low trying to defend the lazy and dumb set of people without getting called out for it...

Lol, nairalanders and their baseless assumption.. I am only trying to call for caution, if that have made me a South African, torh, na u Sabi that one..

mrvitalis:
Then what do u say about the twit and post from south africans all over the internet

What are u trying to achieve ...if u spent 20 years in south africa u should know tanzanians are the ones who sell drugs on the street

U havent said ur mind open up let the hate out

But He said Nigerians not Tanzanians

Many people have comprehension issues, this post was copied from a group and people in that group testified to it... And they are Nigerians, Pele o

festacman:
Nairalanders in South Africa should please react to write-up to guide people in Nigeria get better grasp of the issues at hand.

The story is full of shit

I lived in South Africa and I still have strong ties in the country.

The story is bullshit, there's nothing like community vigilante in South Africa.