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Infact, to say you are saved is under-statement, the truth is you are already in heaven like this. So, let no one deceive you to think because you are committing sin therefore you are not saved.

paxonel:
Infact, to say you are saved is under-statement, the truth is you are already in heaven like this. So, let no one deceive you to think because you are committing sin therefore you are not saved.

Saved from what? Don't let asteroid smash your skull o

John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
Verse-13 confirms that your biological-birth does not bring about the *spiritual-birth* in the *kingdom of God (Jesus Christ)*
Rather Spiritual Birth by the Holy Spirit if you *willingly beliin the gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified* as verse-12 declared.
Jesus Christ confirms it in John 3:6 thus "what is born of the Spirit is Spirit, what is born of the *flesh is flesh*"
Great Grace!!!

Deceiving yourself must be your hobby ...

Continue to sin without looking Back, you hear? Na contribution wey you go pack one day

MrPresident1:
Saved from what?

Saved from death!

John 3: 16 ... And whosever believes in him shall not perish....

Don't let asteroid smash your skull o

na you create asteriod?

Oya come push am down now

midolian:
Deceiving yourself must be your hobby ...

Continue to sin without looking Back, you hear? Na contribution wey you go pack one day

my guy enter back your cage of ignorance and stop talking.
Who need your opinion?

ochibuogwu5:
Verse-13 confirms that your biological-birth does not bring about the *spiritual-birth* in the *kingdom of God (Jesus Christ)*

no, it does not confirm it.
Verse 13 mentioning which were born not of blood nor the will of the flesh has nothing to do with biological birth but to be born of the spirit, meaning to be saved.

But what i posted is different thing entirely.
It emphasis that for you to be born of the spirit or being saved, it also require that you are from a Christian home or parent, a condition that qualifies you to be a Christian, just like a Muslim is a Muslim be cause he was burn from an Islamic home or a Muslim parent.

The truth is, you are Christian today because you were born a Christian. If your parents were Muslim, i don't think by now you you will be looking at the bible talkless of salvation.

Jesus Christ confirms it in John 3:6 thus "what is born of the Spirit is Spirit, what is born of the *flesh is flesh*"
Great Grace!!!

to be born of the spirit simply put it, is to believe in Christ.
And there is no way one will believe in Christ except he or she was born into a Christian home or he or she was convinced at a time to join Christianity.

Have you ever try to convince a Muslim or atheist to join Christianity before?
Or look at it this way, have you ever been convinced to abandon Christianity to join other religion?
Will you agree?

That is how other people from other religious background will not want to join Christianity too.

So, you see! The major way to be saved today is though childbearing and grooming children to be Christians by Christian parents.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

paxonel:
no, it does not confirm it.
Verse 13 mentioning which were born not of blood nor the will of the flesh has nothing to do with biological birth but to be born of the spirit, meaning to be saved.

But what i posted is different thing entirely.
It emphasis that for you to be born of the spirit or being saved, it also require that you are from a Christian home or parent, a condition that qualifies you to be a Christian, just like a Muslim is a Muslim be cause he was burn from an Islamic home or a Muslim parent.

The truth is, you are Christian today because you were born a Christian. If your parents were Muslim, i don't think by now you you will be looking at the bible talkless of salvation.
to be born of the spirit simply put it, is to believe in Christ.
And there is no way one will believe in Christ except he or she was born into a Christian home or he or she was convinced at a time to join Christianity.

Have you ever try to convince a Muslim or atheist to join Christianity before?
Or look at it this way, have you ever been convinced to abandon Christianity to join other religion?
Will you agree?

That is how other people from other religious background will not want to join Christianity too.

So, you see! The major way to be saved today is though childbearing and grooming children to be Christians by Christian parents.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Your write-up conveyed the wrong *thought*
You should have stayed that one of the easiest way of being a Christian is *if you were born into Christian home*
However it is wrong for you to assume I was not *formerly born in another religion* but now a Christian.
My mother was born into a pagan family before she later heard the gospel and *believed*
She married my Father who was a pagan having wealth in that realm though I was baptized as a child but as I grew up even till date I made the choice to collaborate with the grace of salvation in Christ.
It is wrong also to assume that all those born into Christian homes are still Christians even as they grew up. Many have left and joined other religion.
It is not our work as Christians to convert anybody into Christianity rather allow the LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED dwelling inside us to live out his lifestyle through our mortal-bodies then other human being who are attracted to collaborate with the grace of salvation will come to us to accept the gospel.
My dear people from born into Islam/other religions are joining Christianity every second and those who were born into Christianity are also joining other religions of their choice.

ochibuogwu5:
Your write-up conveyed the wrong *thought*
You should have stayed that one of the easiest way of being a Christian is *if you were born into Christian home*

my emphasis is on the fact that one is saved by mere being a Christian whether he or she is a Christian by birth or he or she was once in other religions and is convinced to believe in Christ.

My write up is remind Christians who were made to believe in Christ by birth that their salvation started at birth therefore they do not need any further commitment to any other course before they know that they are saved

However it is wrong for you to assume I was not *formerly born in another religion* but now a Christian.

OK, now i know.
I was only assuming.

It is wrong also to assume that all those born into Christian homes are still Christians even as they grew up.

I never assumed that!

Ofcourse, I know that at some point, a child have the right to decide whether or not to continue with the religion of his or her birth. That is the personal decision that makes Christianity a personal thing.
Christianity being a personal thing is not the personal decision to repent from sin or stop doing wrong.

It is not our work as Christians to convert anybody into Christianity rather allow the LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED dwelling inside us to live out his lifestyle through our mortal-bodies then other human being who are attracted to collaborate with the grace of salvation will come to us to accept the gospel.

you are very right here.
This is the point, we can only try to live according to Christ that may attract people to believe, but we are not doing it because we want to be saved, we were already saved.

My dear people from born into Islam/other religions are joining Christianity every second and those who were born into Christianity are also joining other religions of their choice.

that's true

no, u will still accept Jesus personally