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spillo1:
When will people learn not to blame coaches when individual players makes mistakes.

Swissh:
[s]Don't mind them. They want him to play pressing football like Man City when you have Messi who is lazy and just walks around like he owes the pitch when it requires movement and actual hard work.[/s]

Astark:
because Barca can't risk another injury from him in a useless game. Barca don't need another la liga trophy, we want the cl cup and messi and our top players need to be in their best shape

spillo1:
When will people learn not to blame coaches when individual players makes mistakes.

spillo1:
When will people learn not to blame coaches when individual players makes mistakes.

Swissh:


My father is an idiot.

Swissh:
Don't mind them. They want him to play pressing football like Man City when you have Messi who is lazy and just walks around like he owes the pitch when it requires movement and actual hard work.

TLona1:
Valverde's first season - 1st leg Barca 4 Roma 0, 2nd Leg Roma 3 Barca 0. Roma qualifies

Valverde's second season - 1st leg Barca 3 Liverpool 0, 2nd leg Liverpool 4, Barca 0. Liverpool qualifies.

If you watch and know much about football, you'd know it's the coach's approach that determines how the players will play. Before Barca signed Valverde why did these players not make these 'individual mistakes" that made the team bottle a 3-1 and 3-0 lead?

IKON360:
The "fans" on this thread will not agree o, as far as they are concerned immediately Valverde stops coaching Barca, Barca will win UCL... Oh well the man will go by the end of the season so we can see how well the club will become when he leaves

IKON360:
The "fans" on this thread will not agree o, as far as they are concerned immediately Valverde stops coaching Barca, Barca will win UCL... Oh well the man will go by the end of the season so we can see how well the club will become when he leaves

spillo1:
The coach can prepare his team down the last detail and one mistake can ruin everything. When Gerrard slipped against Chelsea did the coach account for that? Did valverde tell the team to fall asleep during a corner or for Alba who has been reliable through out the season to have one of the worst game of the season.

TLona1:
Mr Man shut up.
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Barca has been this style of football for many years until Valverde happened.

Swissh:
Nigga your head needs sense capsules.

You can only play that style of football when everybody is pressing. Messi walks around with his lazy attitude.

TLona1:
Barca has been playing this style over the years with Messi.

At least try to make a statement or assertion that'll make you sound reasonable for once.

TLona1:
Valverde's first season - 1st leg Barca 4 Roma 0, 2nd Leg Roma 3 Barca 0. Roma qualifies

Valverde's second season - 1st leg Barca 3 Liverpool 0, 2nd leg Liverpool 4, Barca 0. Liverpool qualifies.

If you watch and know much about football, you'd know it's the coach's approach that determines how the players will play. Before Barca signed Valverde why did these players not make these 'individual mistakes" that made the team bottle a 3-1 and 3-0 lead?

Swissh:
Under pep he pressed and was younger then. Hell even pep moved him as false 9 to free him from defensive responsibilities because he knows he is lazy. Now he is older and just walks around. Do you think valverde can tell him to press?

TLona1:
What Pep did, Valverde can do likewise.

After all, Messi played false 9 at some point in time 2 seasons ago under Valverde.

IKON360:
I started seriously watching Barca matches in 2008, we won UCL in 2009, 2010 we didn't win Inter knocked us and the way Inter knocked us out was extremely predictable despite having Xavi, Iniesta and Dani Alves and what people consider the best team of the 21st century, we won UCL in 2011, 2012 we were defeated by Chelsea under the guidance of a jjc when it comes to coaching, Torres just used nail and ended us, 2013 we defeated by Bayern, in fact I'd call it destruction they even flogged us at Nou Camp, 2014 we knocked out by Athletico Madrid, 2015 we won UCL with theoat fearsome trident in European football history, 2016 Juventus sent us packing, 2017 Roma and 2018 Liverpool.

The reason I gave this history which may not be correct but is quite accurate is because losses are a certainty in football, we had the best midfielders yet we lost to teams we should have beaten, we had MSN at the peak of their powers and we still lost to teams we should have beaten... This team isn't as awesome as Guardiola's 2009 and 2011 teams nor as destructive as Enrique's 2015 side but fans still deem it fit to lay all the blame at the coach's door... The coach is also to blame without a doubt but losing twice in UCL in a row isn't only him to be blamed, personally I think the board is making some very poor transfer decisions

Swissh:
Yes tell your both 30yrs+ striker and best player to press. Good luck with that. Pep won't even take this lazy and walking Messi at City.

TLona1:
Oh so nature has it that once you're more than 30, you won't be able to press again?

TLona1:
Valverde didn't tell them fall alseep during that corner but Valverde's conservative approach to game cost us. After Origi made it 4-0, they were not even playing as though they needed a goal. All we saw was pass pass pass pass with no or little ambition of scoring.

spillo1:
Most of the goals Barca conceded were due to lack of concentration, you can't really blame Valverde for the players turning off their brains during some moments of the match. Valverde is just an easy scapegoat for you the Barca fans to blame. If Barca had scored and qualified would you have attributed it to valverde?

Swissh:
When last did you watch Messi and Suarez play? Cus honestly you might just be a LiveScore analyst.

spillo1:
Most of the goals Barca conceded were due to lack of concentration, you can't really blame Valverde for the players turning off their brains during some moments of the match. Valverde is just an easy scapegoat for you the Barca fans to blame. If Barca had scored and qualified would you have attributed it to valverde?

TLona1:
If you really watched that match and saw Barca's approach to scoring, you'd know that the coach played a big role in the bottling.

They played with no ambition. They were also conservative and complacent coupled with zero drive to win and poor mentality. All these were the things the coach should have worked on.

TLona1:
If you really watched that match and saw Barca's approach to scoring, you'd know that the coach played a big role in the bottling.

They played with no ambition. They were also conservative and complacent coupled with zero drive to win and poor mentality. All these were the things the coach should have worked on.

spillo1:
It's nonsense. The way they blame valverde has no leg to stand on.

IKON360:
When we won the first leg against Liverpool , those that complained, complained how the TEAM was giving up so many chances to Liverpool and how Ter Stegen was awesome. When we lost boom!!! The coach became the problem, what coach have done to stop a goal like that Origi goal that Trent Arnold assisted Origi from the corner? I just think fans just need someone to lay the blame on.

If we win a match this thread rarely moves highest one page or two but when we lose, fans, FANS will be trolling their own team how?! It's really despicable

TLona1:


Bro, there's a clear difference between LOSING and BOTTLING. The former is a normal phenomenon is football as we all understand but the latter is what every club would hate to experience.

In the brief history you narrated above, there was no case of Barca bottling a huge lead to a club she's superior than.

The reason why most of us are no longer in support of Valverde is because of the way he has turned Barca to a joke especially in the UCL. With the way things are now, even Mamelodi Sundonws can do a comeback against Barca.

How will a big club like Barca, bottle a 4-1 and 3-0 lead in two consecutive seasons? That's totally unacceptable and that's why we want Valverdo out!

spillo1:
Wait the coach should give them ambition and good mentality? The coach should also wipe their ass for them as well. Barca also missed chances in that game. If Barca had scored and qualified,will you have attributed it to valverde?

IKON360:
Yet one of Liverpool's best players was Allisson... And many people were celebrating Van Dijk for his contribution to the clean sheet so was Fabinho's work in middle also well received... We missed too many chances