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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by RZArecta2(m): 10:09pm On Oct 01, 2019
When a môronic health minister appointed by an imbecîlic president says doctors should convert to tailor’s or carpenters what do you expect ? Wouldn’t you tell your siblings who are doctors to find greener pastures in countries that appreciate their expertise ? Nigeria has reversed back to the brain drain era of 1984 thanks to Buhari and his idîotic supporters cool
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 10:09pm On Oct 01, 2019
it ain't just doctor's.. Nigeria is facing a brain drain collapse that is going to destroy the nation.. in every sector to mention the most intellectual & skilled are being lured away with scholarships and better work opportunities.. we often think we are overpopulated.. but most don't know that in the nearest future we are going to be having problems of underpopulation around the world and underdevelopment and overpopulation here in Nigerian because the pace setters and knowledge workers would be poached by foreign nations leaving only empty human shells and mediocre talents to pilot the affairs of the country
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by VULCAN(m):
Unfortunately for your ilk, the rate of medical brain drain skyrocketed when ur illiterate Principal stole 2015 election.

Between 2010 and 2014 many diaspora returned home.

But they began to turn back in 2015

Wonder why?

[quote author= post=82753986]The number of Nigerian Doctors abroad are more than enough to care for our 200 Million Population.

This is where we found ourselves after 16 years of misrule.

We are happy to know things are changing for the better in our nation gradually.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime.
Slow and steady we will get to a New and better place in our nation.[/quote]
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 10:12pm On Oct 01, 2019
The problem is not importing doctors but paying the few ones remaining well enough to encourage them to stay back. Otherwise, soon enough there won't be any doctor left in Nigeria.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Ugosample(m): 10:12pm On Oct 01, 2019
Giannakopoulos:
Lies fueled by NMA to boost their ego. when thousands of doctors don't have jobs in Nigeria!
the way specialists are leaving
I'm afraid we have no other choice than to import
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Ugosample(m): 10:15pm On Oct 01, 2019
Mrpsly247:
it ain't just doctor's.. Nigeria is facing a brain drain collapse that is going to destroy the nation.. in every sector to mention the most intellectual & skilled are being lured away with scholarships and better work opportunities.. we often think we are overpopulated.. but most don't know that in the nearest future we are going to be having problems of underpopulation around the world and underdevelopment and overpopulation here in Nigerian because the pace setters and knowledge workers would be poached by foreign nations leaving only empty human shells and mediocre talents to pilot the affairs of the country
is it not what I have been saying?

in the next 10 years; Nigeria is dooomed to be populated by mostly idiots, agbero; thugs, illiterates, hawkers and shoe shiners cheesy cheesy

una never see anything
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by slam7000(m): 10:20pm On Oct 01, 2019
undefeateds:
I thought ngige once said those doctors that want to leave can leave, we already have enough doctors
Ngige has lost it.

Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Chuzoetoh(m): 10:21pm On Oct 01, 2019
Chai, who did we offendhuh Naija don cast!!!
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Seventy7kings:
[quote author= post=82753986]The number of Nigerian Doctors abroad are more than enough to care for our 200 Million Population.

This is where we found ourselves after 16 years of misrule.

We are happy to know things are changing for the better in our nation gradually.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime.
Slow and steady we will get to a New and better place in our nation.[/quote]
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Omenkata: 10:27pm On Oct 01, 2019
[s][quote author= post=82754546]Happy wailing kid! cheesy[/quote][/s]
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 10:28pm On Oct 01, 2019
Ugosample:
is it not what I have been saying?

in the next 10 years; Nigeria is dooomed to be populated by mostly idiots, agbero; thugs, illiterates, hawkers and shoe shiners cheesy cheesy

una never see anything
And the funny thing is that most people don't know the cataclysmic effect of such mediocrity in a developing nation such as ours.. Every tom dick and harry now considers himself knowledgeable and would rather indulge their ignorance than clearly seek expert advice or even worse would attempt to drag such an individual down to their level and ridicule what they don't know...
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Joystark(f): 10:29pm On Oct 01, 2019
Getting a medical degree is not easy.
Those guys dey read jaa.

What do you expect them to do if they feel unappreciated?

Just hope all the good ones won't go away. Before we get stuck with Fake Dokita Zebedees. grin
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 10:35pm On Oct 01, 2019
[quote author= post=82753986]The number of Nigerian Doctors abroad are more than enough to care for our 200 Million Population.

This is where we found ourselves after 16 years of misrule.

We are happy to know things are changing for the better in our nation gradually.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime.
Slow and steady we will get to a New and better place in our nation.[/quote]Let's have a discussion based off on the bolded part of your statement. Can you back that statement by highlighting one or two things that are gradually changing for good in the health sector?
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Seventy7kings:
VULCAN:
Unfortunately for your ilk, the rate of medical brain drain skyrocketed when ur illeterate Principal stole 2015 election.

Between 2010 and 2014 many diaspora returned home.

But they began to turn back in 2015

Wonder why?
wait
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by vichaz10(m): 10:37pm On Oct 01, 2019
Ejoo.... We've closed borders ..... NO MORE IMPORT
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by ovieneekperemo: 10:37pm On Oct 01, 2019
[quote author= post=82753986][s]The number of Nigerian Doctors abroad are more than enough to care for our 200 Million Population.

This is where we found ourselves after 16 years of misrule.

We are happy to know things are changing for the better in our nation gradually.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime.
Slow and steady we will get to a New and better place in our nation[/s].[/quote]Ozuo d bat griller, will u just shut it? When r u imbec***s going to stop yarrning about PDP and face d fact that your most senior slowpoke in Aso rock is a disease that is worst than gonorrhoea? Get out of hia
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Seventy7kings:
KingMEXX:
Let's have a discussion based off on the bolded part of your statement. Can you back that statement by highlighting one or two things that are gradually changing for good in the health sector?
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 10:49pm On Oct 01, 2019
SLAP44:
But, what did you people expect?

You voted a semi literate man who has not seen a Nigerian doctor since his army recruitment testing in 1962 to president and you think he will notice that doctors are leaving Nigeria?

To him, they don't even exist.
That's not quite true...Bubu has seen Nigerian as well as non -Nigerian doctors since 1962 (Infact I read an anecdote written by a paediatrian about Bubu taking one of his kids to UCH Ibadan in the 1970's...a while ago.)

On the other hand, Bubu should have done more for the health sector. Like increase funding for example.

Even if Bubu visisted a Nigerian doctor...it won't make our health system better. Our budget is $25billion. Some countries like Spain spend $100bn on health in one year alone.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 10:57pm On Oct 01, 2019
On a more serious note, we do have a shortage of medics. However, the shortage precceds Buhari's administration by decades.

Let's start with the fact that we are not turning out enough doctors yearly because of limited spaces in our unviersites (ironically the UK too has this problem...which is why they heavily recruit doctors from abroad....and why some UK citizens even go abroad to get their degrees!)...plus the fact that we are not even turning out enough specialist doctors.

Which leads to the next issue....funding. As it is, we spend $2bn on health annually. That money isn't enough. Add the fact that most hospitals charge very low hospital fees...and you have chronically underfunded hosptials.,....which at the teaching hospital level has an impact on training for doctors.

The Unions....NARD , NMA, etc have been crying about this for years...(an amusing thing I note about both the party supporters here....SLAPP44 and ...is that both APC and PDP have refused to listen to the cries of the medical doctor unions about funding)...and government doesn't listen to them.

But the sad thing is at the end of the day., we need money to improve conditions of service etc. I don't see APC improving the economy the way they should to improve funding...which leaves us with

1.Taking a loan

2.Raising hospital fees, taxes, etc to levels that would allow our hospitals be sustainably funded and financed....so that they can train more medics

3.Increasing university spaces...which means that the APC government should for example consider adding an extra 2 trillion naira for universites yearly.(which can be raised by remoiving subsides on fuel).
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Kokaine(m): 11:05pm On Oct 01, 2019
SLAP44:
But, what did you people expect?

You voted a semi literate man who has not seen a Nigerian doctor since his army recruitment testing in 1962 to president and you think he will notice that doctors are leaving Nigeria?

To him, they don't even exist.
we need a revolution in this country. Our kids won't be happy with us if we bequeath them with this geographical boundary called Nigeria. In another twenty years with the way technology is going, an African kid will look like a monkey in the presence of kids in other climes. We will be so backward, talking about election violence, police and SARS robbery and no power supply, while kids in other countries will be about iot devices, programming, telsa batteries, flying automobiles, going to space and more. The contrast will be too much and austerity measures to prevent trans migration will be More. Its so saddening
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Bbbwings: 11:06pm On Oct 01, 2019
Giannakopoulos:
Lies fueled by NMA to boost their ego. when thousands of doctors don't have jobs in Nigeria!
You sabi
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Ugosample(m): 11:07pm On Oct 01, 2019
Mrpsly247:
And the funny thing is that most people don't know the cataclysmic effect of such mediocrity in a developing nation such as ours.. Every tom dick and harry now considers himself knowledgeable and would rather indulge their ignorance than clearly seek expert advice or even worse would attempt to drag such an individual down to their level and ridicule what they don't know...
Nigeria has chosen destruction

no going back from there
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Ugosample(m): 11:12pm On Oct 01, 2019
Kokaine:
we need a revolution in this country. Our kids won't be happy with us if we bequeath them with this geographical boundary called Nigeria. In another twenty years with the way technology is going, an African kid will look like a monkey in the presence of kids in other climes. We will be so backward, talking about election violence, police and SARS robbery and no power supply, while kids in other countries will be about iot devices, programming, telsa batteries, flying automobiles, going to space and more. The contrast will be too much and austerity measures to prevent trans migration will be More. Its so saddening
Una never see anything
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by madridsta007(m): 11:13pm On Oct 01, 2019
SLAP44:
But, what did you people expect?

You voted a semi literate man who has not seen a Nigerian doctor since his army recruitment testing in 1962 to president and you think he will notice that doctors are leaving Nigeria?

To him, they don't even exist.
Semi-literate?
You people are the ones spoiling this country.

Why are you calling an illiterate man, semi-literate?
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by mediclife1987(m): 11:18pm On Oct 01, 2019
dre11:
https://punchng.com/nigeria-may-import-doctors-to-address-shortage-medical-guild/
This is what Nigerians have kuku wanted all the while- oyinbo doctor.

Instead of them to cultivate their local talents and nurture them to fruition, they'll rather import Oyinbo.

Nigerian doctor requests 300k/month for salary, them go swear make thunder scatter hin yansh, but wen one smelly oyinbo that has never treated Malaria/Typhoid in his life appears, they'll dish out 1million/month to him with abeg join sef.

Una think una dey do us, kontinuu.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by FreshestManny(m): 11:23pm On Oct 01, 2019
Everything dem dey import. St00pid, messed up country @59.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by googi: 11:35pm On Oct 01, 2019
Can anyone here point to one professional or worker that thinks she is well paid in this country, except of course the politicians?

Accept the fact that we are money mongers that think money can solve all our problems. The shortage of doctors has nothing to do with salary but more to do with training.

How many countries in the world train doctors for other countries, with their curriculum and needs? If you know one, please tell us. If you train your doctors according to other countries needs and curriculum, that is where they will end up.

We need to find out how China, India, Cuba, Russia and many others meet their medical needs more than us. Health issues are not just about doctors and salaries. No amount can satisfy any Nigerian worker. We have no pride in what we do but in what we earn. What about those doctors that left humongous salary abroad to earn peanuts at home (African and foreign doctors)?

Do you guys realize that teachers were the most respectable people in Nigeria while most professionals made more money than them? History, history, history, abi o.

It got worse during Structural Adjustment and massive oil income. Yet, we have not learned that massive riches does not make you wealthy. Call a Nigerian best trained doctor (not the daughter or son of Babalawo) and ask him about parasitic or infectious disease still hiding in the villages. He will be proud to tell you he or she did not learn that in medical school. But ask him about tertiary diseases famous in Europe and America, my Bobo will be beaming with smiles, dislocating them like a professor.

Look, put more money and training in Health Officers (Physician Assistants, they cannot run anywhere) from the schools of medical technology and watch for Primary Health Care boom like Cuba, China and Russia. Abi Chinese and Cuban doctors do not get Nobel Prize in Medicine?
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by entreprelaptop(m): 11:35pm On Oct 01, 2019
[quote author= post=82753986]The number of Nigerian Doctors abroad are more than enough to care for our 200 Million Population.

This is where we found ourselves after 16 years of misrule.

We are happy to know things are changing for the better in our nation gradually.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime.
Slow and steady we will get to a New and better place in our nation.[/quote]U dey yan gibberish most times...sorry about that though
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 11:38pm On Oct 01, 2019
SLAP44:
But, what did you people expect?

You voted a semi literate man who has not seen a Nigerian doctor since his army recruitment testing in 1962 to president and you think he will notice that doctors are leaving Nigeria?

To him, they don't even exist.
Buhari is a disaster but this is not his doing. Doctors have been leaving Nigeria since the early 80's.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by smartolala(m): 11:45pm On Oct 01, 2019
But Dr. Chris Ngige said that there is no cause for alarm,Nigeria has enough doctors... Our political elite will destroy this country
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 12:01am On Oct 02, 2019
googi:
Can anyone here point to one professional or worker that thinks she is well paid in this country, except of course the politicians?

Accept the fact that we are money mongers that think money can solve all our problems. The shortage of doctors has nothing to do with salary but more to do with training.

How many countries in the world train doctors for other countries, with their curriculum and needs? If you know one, please tell us. If you train your doctors according to other countries needs and curriculum, that is where they will end up.

We need to find out how China, India, Cuba, Russia and many others meet their medical needs more than us. Health issues are not just about doctors and salaries. No amount can satisfy any Nigerian worker. We have no pride in what we do but in what we earn. What about those doctors that left humongous salary abroad to earn peanuts at home (African and foreign doctors)?

Do you guys realize that teachers were the most respectable people in Nigeria while most professionals made more money than them? History, history, history, abi o.

It got worse during Structural Adjustment and massive oil income. Yet, we have not learned that massive riches does not make you wealthy. Call a Nigerian best trained doctor (not the daughter or son of Babalawo) and ask him about parasitic or infectious disease still hiding in the villages. He will be proud to tell you he or she did not learn that in medical school. But ask him about tertiary diseases famous in Europe and America, my Bobo will be beaming with smiles, dislocating them like a professor.

Look, put more money and training in Health Officers (Physician Assistants, they cannot run anywhere) from the schools of medical technology and watch for Primary Health Care boom like Cuba, China and Russia. Abi Chinese and Cuban doctors do not get Nobel Prize in Medicine?
With all due respect you're writing out of ignorance.

Nigerian corpers as junior doctors, regularly and successfully treat tropical conditions during NYSC; and if they don't, why do you assume health officer will ? The experiment with CHEWS, health officers, medical technology graduates has already been performed in northern Nigeria and we all are witness to what a disaster that is.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by zimakod(m): 12:24am On Oct 02, 2019
Lol
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