₦airaland Forum

Welcome, Guest: RegisterLoginWith GoogleTrendingRecentNew

Stats: 3,325,400 members, 8,421,743 topics. Date: Saturday, 06 June 2026 at 10:56 PM

Toggle theme

Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) - Foreign Affairs (5429) - Nairaland

Nairaland ForumNairaland GeneralPoliticsForeign AffairsKenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) (8079544 Views)

1 2 3 ... 5426 5427 5428 5429 5430 5431 5432 ... 9933 (Go Down)

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:01am On Oct 15, 2019
Even when the states budget are added, it's still not convincing. Not to mention that the states budgets in Nigeria are grossly over proposed and many if not all the states still rely on the Federal government allocation.
It's not even half perfect.

And just for a reminder, you lead in the number of poor folks in the world!

Come up with any infrastructure rankings and then we compare!

Our logistics rankings dwarfs many nations in Africa including Nigeria. I wonder how we score highly in this sector with yet our dilapidated infrastructure!
samorobo:
You focus on national budget but fail to understand that each 36 states have their own budget..

Yes our budget is small because we don't pay tax. Our tax to GDP is probably one of the lowest in the world... We are glad that by next year tax will be aggressively collected with the new law and implementation put in place which is expected to kick off in 2020...

Buy my question is this...you that collect tax and supposedly have a decent budget

what is the state of your infastructure?

Is your tax money not suppose to reflect in your infastructure? SA that collect decent tax we see it in her infastructure but In Your case it is lacking

Why borrow aggressively to fund every little project as though not even a cent is regularly been collected from you?

What is the essence of paying tax and having a supposedly decent budget when your paved road network still remains mockingly at 7% since independence (over 56 years) with about 4% of that 7% in bad condition? (Honestly I can't imagine what you people are going through. Road must be hell over there with so many bare soil that has never taste bitumen)

What is the essence of paying tax and having a decent budget that funds Kenyatta and his cohorts luxurious trip to Namibia, Carribbean, Emirates, Asia just for holiday?

What is the essence of paying tax and having a supposedly decent budget when it is constantly been looted aggressively?...


Let me just stop here cause the list is endless
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:05am On Oct 15, 2019
samorobo:
I could have told them in another thread

I could have told them in strong pidgin that you wouldn't understand
Plus they don't even need me to tell them to back out from the conversation cos I practically claimed to myself seeing that you constantly called me out.
But the fact is you didn't tell them.... Yet lied and said you did!!

Also I can simply go on your profile and see every single post you have ever made, so it doesn't matter which thread you might of told them, I would still be able to see.

Also I've been on nairaland long enough to understand Pidgin.....its Really not that difficult.

And BTW seems like you forget why I call you(and only you) out in the first place??...... Don't you remember falsely accusing me of being a liar? I just find it funny that someone like you who has lied about a number of things would accuse me of lying grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:30am On Oct 15, 2019
How is Nigeria industrialised and a good economy?

How can you have a good economy whilst having more poor folks than India?
DarkRaptor:
I think a battle of industrialization and economies is far more important than using aid money to force up empty skyscrapers.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:33am On Oct 15, 2019
.
samorobo:
What has your serious budget been doing in your infastructure if not constant borrowing and fast rotting away of infastructures.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:56am On Oct 15, 2019
Argue with these facts!
samorobo:
You focus on national budget but fail to understand that each 36 states have their own budget..

Yes our budget is small because we don't pay tax. Our tax to GDP is probably one of the lowest in the world... We are glad that by next year tax will be aggressively collected with the new law and implementation put in place which is expected to kick off in 2020...

Buy my question is this...you that collect tax and supposedly have a decent budget

what is the state of your infastructure?

Is your tax money not suppose to reflect in your infastructure? SA that collect decent tax we see it in her infastructure but In Your case it is lacking

Why borrow aggressively to fund every little project as though not even a cent is regularly been collected from you?

What is the essence of paying tax and having a supposedly decent budget when your paved road network still remains mockingly at 7% since independence (over 56 years) with about 4% of that 7% in bad condition? (Honestly I can't imagine what you people are going through. Road must be hell over there with so many bare soil that has never taste bitumen)

What is the essence of paying tax and having a decent budget that funds Kenyatta and his cohorts luxurious trip to Namibia, Carribbean, Emirates, Asia just for holiday?

What is the essence of paying tax and having a supposedly decent budget when it is constantly been looted aggressively?...


Let me just stop here cause the list is endless

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:12am On Oct 15, 2019
Old same arguments. We have been through this. Lagos can levy taxes. Nairobi county cannot. Nairobi county collect rates and licenese fee.
Carmit:
So lagos generated $1.3bn internally in 2018 shocked and Nairobi generated $134mn in 2018 shocked and you're still comparing??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:39am On Oct 15, 2019
Jonraid:
Our rotting infrastructure has propelled us to be among Africa's success story in the ease of doing business!
And with your so called success story why do do still generate a tiny fdi...business should be booming with investor fighting to establish a foothold there
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:47am On Oct 15, 2019
Kenya pics - the land of contrasts - from deserts to chilly cold highlands to coastal tropics.
1) Kenya Statehouse - with some lucheon.
2) Tigoni tea plantations
3) Diani beach
4) Suguta valley -sand dunes.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:49am On Oct 15, 2019
Jonraid:
Even when the states budget are added, it's still not convincing. Not to mention that the states budgets in Nigeria are grossly over proposed and many if not all the states still rely on the Federal government allocation.
It's not even half perfect.

And just for a reminder, you lead in the number of poor folks in the world!

Come up with any infrastructure rankings and then we compare!

Our logistics rankings dwarfs many nations in Africa including Nigeria. I wonder how we score highly in this sector with yet our dilapidated infrastructure!
The bolded is just you being a good student by ripping a page off one of those rvp deluded jealousy driven topics....

95% of what I wrote focused on kenya but yes you quickly ignored it and made it about nigeria ....I am not denying that our budget is too small but rather I am simply trying to understand where you decent and yet perfect tax and budget been going into cause obviously we do not see it in your infastructure rather we keep hearing news about another loan waiting to be collected every month.. and the funny things is that you don't pay and your debt are never forgiven so it just keeps piling and taking one step closer to NEOCOLONIALISM grin

We do not pay tax down here so there is amost no revenue generated
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:49am On Oct 15, 2019
Westlands

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:52am On Oct 15, 2019
Dar es salaam Tanzania

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:52am On Oct 15, 2019
Jonraid:
How is Nigeria industrialised and a good economy?

How can you have a good economy whilst having more poor folks than India?
Well this country that supposedly have so many poor folk is by far richer and ahead if you in the following

GDP per capita
GDP PPP
GDP nominal
Gnu per capita.


Now stand up and sing yemi kale stat because it makes you feel intimidated whilst I watch you feeling depressed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:55am On Oct 15, 2019
Jonraid:
Argue with these facts!
Don't ignore what I originally told you......in most of those stat smaller countries like Singapore, Kuwait will do better than the almighty America and make China look out of the league..so you argue with fact and stop grasping at straws grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:55am On Oct 15, 2019
Kazikazi:
Dar es salaam Tanzania
Dar never dissapoints
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:56am On Oct 15, 2019
rvp20182:
Old same arguments. We have been through this. Lagos can levy taxes. Nairobi county cannot. Nairobi county collect rates and licenese fee.
Just suffice it to say yemi kale star....that is where you are heading grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:56am On Oct 15, 2019
Kenya reminder is africa largest non-mineral economy - you remove Oil from your economy - and see if you'll not fair worse than any of immediate your neighbours..Benin or Niger or Chad or Cameroun.
samorobo:
The bolded is just you being a good student by ripping a page off one of those rvp deluded jealousy driven topics....

95% of what I wrote focused on kenya but yes you quickly ignored it and made it about nigeria ....I am not denying that our budget is too small but rather I am simply trying to understand where you decent and yet perfect tax and budget been going into cause obviously we do not see it in your infastructure rather we keep hearing news about another loan waiting to be collected every month.. and the funny things is that you don't pay and your debt are never forgiven so it just keeps piling and taking one step closer to NEOCOLONIALISM grin

We do not pay tax down here so there is amost no revenue generated
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:57am On Oct 15, 2019
Yes Yemi Kale has managed to lie to you - that you have 500B dollar economy - when everyone can see it not at South Africa or Egypt level - not even Algeria level. You true economy is around 200B.
samorobo:
Just suffice it to say yemi kale star....that is where you are heading grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:16am On Oct 15, 2019
More Nairobi
1) Two-Rivers - Largest mall in region outside South Africa.
2) Westland and Nairobi CBD.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:17am On Oct 15, 2019
[quote author=jln115 post=83146205]
But the fact is you didn't tell them.... Yet lied and said you did!!
You can't know that for sure can you.....I guess this is about to become your headache

Also I can simply go on your profile and see every single post you have ever made, so it doesn't matter which thread you might of told them, I would still be able to see.
Hahahaha look what a detective we have here.. before embark on your journey into becoming an FBI you should remember that there is something called deleting

Also I've been on nairaland long enough to understand Pidgin.....its Really not that difficult.[quote]
.

Look at you if I should go really deep with pidgin I can bet you won't even understand a word let alone a sentence grin

And BTW seems like you forget why I call you(and only you) out in the first place??...... Don't you remember falsely accusing me of being a liar? I just find it funny that someone like you who has lied about a number of things would accuse me of lying grin grin
I accused you of Lieing about some of our countrymen harmless and mistakingly posting pics that are not ours .. and if after that I called you a liar then it must because you are a liar....I don't just talk like that cos I am careful with words grin grin grin grin grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:22am On Oct 15, 2019
samorobo:
I can't help but say it. Your bet system is very organised and world class
That's the only BRT in east and central Africa
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:23am On Oct 15, 2019
samorobo:
Dar never dissapoints
The largest city in east African community
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:28am On Oct 15, 2019
You don't want or need to visit the backward TZ to see Mt Kilimanjaro that we donated to Tanzania.

Amboselli National Park in Kenya - just 10kms from Mt Kilimanjaro

And Westland

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:29am On Oct 15, 2019
This based on some wildcard report from some WB smiley. Dar Slums is about the size/profile of Mombasa. Mombasa KPA just need to build two twins towers smiley

Click this panaromic view of DarSlums - so you can a see a SLUMPOLIS competing with Lagos and Kinshasasa for biggest shanty town in Africa - completely unplanned.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Dar_es_Salaam_Panorama_edit2.jpg
View of Dar es Salaam City skyline during the day time showing the city centre, Posta and beyond

Kazikazi:
The largest city in east African community
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:35am On Oct 15, 2019
rvp20182:
Kenya reminder is africa largest non-mineral economy - you remove Oil from your economy - and see if you'll not fair worse than any of immediate your neighbours..Benin or Niger or Chad or Cameroun.
Why should we remove oil. We are the ones that doomed you to the minutes pints of oil discovered in turkana..
While you wants us to remove oil we are adding has
While you want us to remove oil we are adding mining
While you want us to oil we are adding industrialization
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:38am On Oct 15, 2019
You've wasted 1 trillion usd from Oil and your country is still one of the world most wretched places on earth - with 100M poor people - entire North Nigeria is not any different from Niger.
samorobo:
Why should we remove oil. We are the ones that doomed you to the minutes pints of oil discovered in turkana..
While you wants us to remove oil we are adding has
While you want us to remove oil we are adding mining
While you want us to oil we are adding industrialization
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:40am On Oct 15, 2019
rvp20182:
Yes Yemi Kale has managed to lie to you - that you have 500B dollar economy - when everyone can see it not at South Africa or Egypt level - not even Algeria level. You true economy is around 200B.
This is probably the dumbest thing you've ever said. Measuring GDP with what exactly more skyscraper or better roads..
They have better infastructure than us because they earlier took it serious than us. In the case of SA I would say all thanks to the white and in the case of Egypt I would say good governance grin
Give us just 10-15 years max and they will be at our feets grin grin
This days you are even beginning to doubt the nonsense you say.. intially you've been shouting our GDP is $150bn max and now you are gradually beginning to increase it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:44am On Oct 15, 2019
rvp20182:
You've wasted 1 trillion usd from Oil and your country is still one of the world most wretched places on earth - with 100M poor people - entire North Nigeria is not any different from Niger.
You that managed your resources well why are you not on Singapore level..Afterall you gained independence about the same time as them and in their case 95% of her citizens where desperately poor but with that little ocean by their side look what a population of 4 million turned out today with her economy giant-ly standing @ $300bn + making your headless nation of close to 50million with so many coastal counties and tea plantations look like dwarf grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:44am On Oct 15, 2019
I have analyzed many sector data - and in my view - your economy is 2-2.5 times kenya - that would put it at 200-250B. When we started this thread - kenya economy was around 60-70B - and Nigeria was similarly around 180B.

GDP include infrastructure, skyscrapers, and all those stuff.

Yemi kale nonsense is just laughable. Just start from Agricluture - and remove that 100B worth of agri (bigger than Brazil/Indonesia) . You import food nearly 20B dollars annually. Your agriculture is dead.

As for 10yrs miracle - well pray for OIl - because honestly I don't see how you can emerge from that morass. You cannot afford to build infrastructure with minisclue budget - with 70% dedicated to repaying debts (kenya has 30% debt servicing - Tanzanai 50%_

samorobo:
This is probably the dumbest thing you've ever said. Measuring GDP with what exactly more skyscraper or better roads..
They have better infastructure than us because they earlier took it serious than us. In the case of SA I would say all thanks to the white and in the case of Egypt I would say good governance grin
Give us just 10-15 years max and they will be at our feets grin grin
This days you are even beginning to doubt the nonsense you say.. intially you've been shouting our GDP is $150bn max and now you are gradually beginning to increase it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:48am On Oct 15, 2019
Big difference btw not pulling yourselves by your bootstrap and squandering a natural resources jackpot. Nigeria hit a jackpot in 1960s and you've made every African look like a monkey - because you acted like Monkeys - and while countries in middle east and africa - transformed from deserts teeming with camels - you are still eating rats and snails - you're exporting 2M barrels of Oil and yet about 100M people are extremely poor in that zoo - and total of 140m just poor.

Yes kenya - could and ought to have done better - but we didn't squander any trillion dollars from any natural resources.

samorobo:
You that managed your resources well why are you not on Singapore level..Afterall you gained independence about the same time as them and in their case 95% of her citizens where desperately poor but with that little ocean by their side look what a population of 4 million turned out today with her economy giant-ly standing @ $300bn + making your headless nation of close to 50million with so many coastal counties and tea plantations look like dwarf grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:50am On Oct 15, 2019
Jonraid:
It couldn't get worse than this!
In fact it is getting a lot worse Nigeria is not even a country to begin with. We are going to 2020 and they are still slave camps in Nigeria

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:00am On Oct 15, 2019
rvp20182:
You don't want or need to visit the backward TZ to see Mt Kilimanjaro that we donated to Tanzania.

Amboselli National Park in Kenya - just 10kms from Mt Kilimanjaro

And Westland
Hohohohoho
You decided to post Tanzania's mountain? Really?
Hohohohoho
You came to the border area and took a glimpse of our natural beauty? Hohohohoho

Now do this..
Go into other border areas, and photoshoot our women,our Serengeti national park, lake natron,Arusha city,Ol doinyo lengai ad other Tanzania's beautiful stuff! After all,claim them as Kenya's
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:03am On Oct 15, 2019
rvp20182:
I have analyzed many sector data - and in my view - your economy is 2-2.5 times kenya - that would put it at 200-250B. When we started this thread - kenya economy was around 60-70B - and Nigeria was similarly around 180B.

GDP include infrastructure, skyscrapers, and all those stuff.

Yemi kale nonsense is just laughable. Just start from Agricluture - and remove that 100B worth of agri (bigger than Brazil/Indonesia) . You import food nearly 20B dollars annually. Your agriculture is dead.

As for 10yrs miracle - well pray for OIl - because honestly I don't see how you can emerge from that morass. You cannot afford to build infrastructure with minisclue budget - with 70% dedicated to repaying debts (kenya has 30% debt servicing - Tanzanai 50%_
The bold says it all..you are not wiser than the world with your third world brain ..... The rest is hogwash

1 2 3 ... 5426 5427 5428 5429 5430 5431 5432 ... 9933

Am I The Only One Whos Tired Of This Kenya Is Ahead ThreadFemi Adesina: "I Don't Lie, No Matter What"; Nigerians ReactKenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode234

Viewing this topic: 29 guest(s)