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Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Gadaluck(m): 12:03am On Oct 17, 2019
jeff1607:


cool

let's say you are the football coach of a country and you are allowed to bring just one player from a foreign country for a world cup final ,which would u go for, Messi or Ronaldo?

Lol, it's Messi all day everyday bro. Even when he's having a bad game. His worst is always better than some people's best....
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by oyatainer(m): 12:21am On Oct 17, 2019
DesChyko:
I can see people peddling goal ratio here as a way to prove Messi is a better goalscorer than Ronaldo.
Let us break down Ronaldo's goal ratio shall we?

EPL (Man Utd): 0.5 goals per game

La Liga (Real Madrid): 1.1 goals per game

Serie A (Juventus): 0.7 goals per game.
And in champions league that they all play which league wins the golden boot most?

In case you still have a problem understanding this ratio, see below, the league in which players who won the European golden shoe from 2009 - 2019 were playing.
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by oyatainer(m): 12:25am On Oct 17, 2019
DesChyko:
I can see people peddling goal ratio here as a way to prove Messi is a better goalscorer than Ronaldo.
Let us break down Ronaldo's goal ratio shall we?

EPL (Man Utd): 0.5 goals per game

La Liga (Real Madrid): 1.1 goals per game

Serie A (Juventus): 0.7 goals per game.
And in champions league that they all play which league wins the golden boot most?

In case you still have a problem understanding this ratio, see below, the league in which players who won the European golden shoe from 2009 - 2019 were playing.
what of the champions league they play together? I think its more of ambition of the top players. Suarez was not base in England when he came and scored many goals, the same thing Aguero, Salah and lots more. The flexibity of ur team also speak volume about the number of goals attackers
score
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by maxwell530(m): 4:18am On Oct 17, 2019
kleverley:

Guy,we're not talking about individual defenders here. we're talking about pair. Ramos and pique in one defence and David De gea in goal yet Ronaldo conquered it. As at then,the trio were dubbed ''the best''
I actually saw that image somewhere, he didn't form it
BTW, is there any amongst the defenders you mentioned above that Ronaldo didn't humble when he had the chance??
what pair of defence can be tougher than Vidic and Ferdinand with Vandersar btw the sticks? Bro Messi score against them in a match that matters (ucl final).
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by DesChyko: 5:42am On Oct 17, 2019
movingclouds:

But I'm sorry, out of all you mentioned, Rinaldo only has the aerial ability and shot power more....the pace depends on two things, with or without the ball... Ronaldo has more pace without the ball, Messi has it more with the ball at his foot.. Check out their defensive contribution and see who's made more tackles.. For the strength/stamina, the shorter players have it better due to the height.. You need drag them hard to stop them, same worked for Tevez during his time.. Ronaldo has the shot power but Messi has a better shooting accuracy, that's why he's scored more goals outside the box

Ronaldo has sheer pace. 'With the ball' is more about 'ball control' and I already spoke about taller players not having that advantage. Ronaldo relies more on this athleticism to beat players. This is shown in how he runs unto balls in space.
Defensive contribution is not all about tackles bro. Messi is only effective defensively when the ball is on the ground. In a corner, Messi has little or no importance there. Aerial duels, Messi has no business there. Ronaldo is effective in both aspects. Although both players do not play 'defensively'.
Stamina means endurance which is a cardio thing, not a short/tall players affair. You can say the same for strength too. Ibrahimovic is one of the strongest players in football buy he's so tall. Shorter players are harder to shrug off the ball because of their body size, not strength. But there are a lot more application of strength in football which is shown when contesting for the ball and shooting also. While Messi has scored more outside the box especially via set piece due to his accuracy, Ronaldo has scored more from great distances due to his power.
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by DesChyko: 5:49am On Oct 17, 2019
oyatainer:
what of the champions league they play together? I think its more of ambition of the top players. Suarez was not base in England when he came and scored many goals, the same thing Aguero, Salah and lots more. The flexibity of ur team also speak volume about the number of goals attackers
score
Evidently, the team's fluidity counts. Spanish teams (the top dogs) are more fluid, although it's a combination of all tournaments' goals. That being said, most of the season's goals come via league football.
It's funny though that you didn't even consider Serie A. You've already accepted it is a problem to play there now. Lol

I don't get the Suarez part, but in the same season Suarez scored that much for England, he shared the goals award with a contender in Spain.

The player's finesse in front of goal has a lot to do here as well but I'm implying that it's easier for good Spanish-based strikers to hit target more. Compare Suarez outing in England to his outing in Spain as lead striker.

As for the UCL part, see the SS below.

Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by kleverley(m): 7:53am On Oct 17, 2019
Vidic and Ferdinand with van der saar tougher than Ramos and Pique with De gea in goal?
Stop being sentimental
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by kleverley(m): 8:12am On Oct 17, 2019
Remzii:
1.Ronaldo gave Oblak 3 goals in ucl
2.Ronaldo gave De gea 3 goals in world cup
dis re d two top keepers in europe if not d best pls wat else do u want from d GOAT
Guy ma no vex oo
Ronaldo gave Manuel Neuer 4 goals in UCL
have u forgotten?
lol

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Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by BlackHummer(m): 8:15am On Oct 17, 2019
obentenyson:
obviously its Messi... with messi in the opposing team, the coach will have to make special kind of formation n defense tactics to block him out.. do you know how defenders shake while trying to mark messi? some of them even run back when he's coming towards them while so called brave ones that tries to challenge will just fall down without knowing what's the cause... you have atleast 2 defenders chasing messi up n down.... as for Ronaldo, just try to notice those players that usually feed him balls n stop them. doing so, Ronaldo will be useless. take for example at Madrid, it used to be ozil before he left for arsenal, Marcelo and modric.. mark this guys, Ronaldo will just be frustrated.. you don't need much players on Ronaldo himself. just put one good defender on him to follow him every where he goes n close mark him tight especially when he is outside the box... if you notice most of the goals that Ronaldo scores this days, he is usually left unmarked... compared to messi who is always being followed and still will beat the defenders or any living thing in front of him no matter how many they are before scoring. plus, messi is also a play Maker.. he is the one doing most of the passes, assist, and goal scoring on the field compared to Ronaldo who waits for the ball to get to him and then finishes.....

EOD. You sabi...
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by kleverley(m): 8:15am On Oct 17, 2019
eni4real:
Lewandoski give Cassilas 4 goals in the UCL. .

What else do you expect from this GOAT grin
Ronaldo gave Manuel Neuer 4 goals too
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Obiaksnews: 8:20am On Oct 17, 2019
Check out the number of goals ronaldo has against teams like Juventus, Athletico Madrid and Even the Spanish national team. lets be factual.
chiboy1116:
against which toughest defence? U must be joking , na eyimba boys Messi de score na . See rubbish talk abeg.
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by chiboy1116: 9:11am On Oct 17, 2019
Obiaksnews:
Check out the number of goals ronaldo has against teams like Juventus, Athletico Madrid and Even the Spanish national team. lets be factual.
I don't get this , so Messi doesn't score against tough defence ? Messi hasn't scored juve? AC Milan? Tottenham? Madrid ? France ? Germany? Brazil? Spain? Uruguay? Liverpool? Atm? I don't get
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Obiaksnews: 9:36am On Oct 17, 2019
I SAID CHECK THE NUMBER OF GOALS, I DIDN'T SAY MESSI HASN'T SCORED AGAINST THESE TEAMS, TO PUT IT IN A BETTER PERSPECTIVE, RONALDO HAS SCORED THREE HATRICKS AGAINST ATLETICO MADRID, 22 GOALS IN TOTAL, AGAINST A TEAM WHICH IS AGREED TO HAVE ONE OF THE BEST DEFENCE IN THE WORLD, 1O UEFA GOALS AGAINST JUVENTUS. 26 GOALS AGAINST BARCELONA, A WORLD CUP HATRICK AGAINST SPAIN, AN HATRICK AGAINST SWEDEN IN A MUST WIN MATCH. BE FACTUAL DON'T BE SENTIMENTAL.
chiboy1116:
I don't get this , so Messi doesn't score against tough defence ? Messi hasn't scored juve? AC Milan? Tottenham? Madrid ? France ? Germany? Brazil? Spain? Uruguay? Liverpool? Atm? I don't get
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Beat123(f): 11:13am On Oct 17, 2019
Dependent on position of play!! Messi is midfield so definitely much will mark him!

Cr7 at the attack or box! Only has defenders!


Question, who poses more threat?

CR7.

#thinklogically

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Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Coldsteel(m): 11:33am On Oct 17, 2019
Messi undoubtedly...He’s not only a goal scorer but also a play maker . If I’m not wrong he’s in top also in terms of assists made in last 10 years . This is simply incredible . In any attacking statistics he’s on top or between top 3 . No other player was able to do this . If you talk about Goals he’s there , in terms of Assists he’s there too , in terms of key passes he’s there on top ; in terms of dribbling he’s leading , he has the highest accuracy in expected goals . In terms of most free kick goals scored in last 5 years no has even half of his numbers , don’t forget that he started to take free kicks after Xavi retired . This is a total footballer. He doesn’t have a strong muscled body , doesn’t show himself too much but has that magical left foot that make people falling in love with football.
...When you factor in his diminutive size, height and age...
...then consider the amount of work and time rival coaches spend in containing Messi alone.
It's just understable why he's hated so much

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Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Nobody: 12:35pm On Oct 17, 2019
Stupid argument.....

I have watched both a couple of times.... If Ronaldo is marked like Messi... His goals tally would drop like a broke record....

Defender hardly mark Ronaldo even when they know he is a treat... He is assigned two or just one defender... His skills lies in his strength to deceive those defender with run..

But how many defender have said u can never hold Messi out one and one... U need up to 3 or 4 defenders to hold Messi... Exactly what Neymar enjoyed thinking he can do anything without Messi Taking the heat while you free role..

This argument is baseless... Ronaldo need only two defender.. A tall and fast defender blocking his tricky run and head shots and another blocking who ever is making the crossing... Watch Ajax VS Juventus.. That exactly what they did after that first goal
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by scantee(m): 3:58pm On Oct 17, 2019
Messi na the baba na
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Nobody: 4:01pm On Oct 17, 2019
DanXplore:


Lol. Dont mind them.

They are just running out of excuses.
Lol
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by chiboy1116: 5:23pm On Oct 17, 2019
Obiaksnews:
I SAID CHECK THE NUMBER OF GOALS, I DIDN'T SAY MESSI HASN'T SCORED AGAINST THESE TEAMS, TO PUT IT IN A BETTER PERSPECTIVE, RONALDO HAS SCORED THREE HATRICKS AGAINST ATLETICO MADRID, 22 GOALS IN TOTAL, AGAINST A TEAM WHICH IS AGREED TO HAVE ONE OF THE BEST DEFENCE IN THE WORLD, 1O UEFA GOALS AGAINST JUVENTUS. 26 GOALS AGAINST BARCELONA, A WORLD CUP HATRICK AGAINST SPAIN, AN HATRICK AGAINST SWEDEN IN A MUST WIN MATCH. BE FACTUAL DON'T BE SENTIMENTAL.
Ur actually been sentimental here , Ronaldo has 18 goals against Barca , Messi has 29 gols against ATM . And 26 goals against Madrid .
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by ifiokjohn(m): 6:42pm On Oct 17, 2019
chiboy1116:
Ur actually been sentimental here , Ronaldo has 18 goals against Barca , Messi has 29 gols against ATM . And 26 goals against Madrid .
Messi passing Ronaldo with just 8 Goals and he has been in Spain for 5 years before Rinaldo came. Imagine Ronaldo was in Spain earlier like Messi, he would have had at least 40 goals against barca.
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by chiboy1116: 11:12pm On Oct 17, 2019
ifiokjohn:
Messi passing Ronaldo with just 8 Goals and he has been in Spain for 5 years before Rinaldo came. Imagine Ronaldo was in Spain earlier like Messi, he would have had at least 40 goals against barca.
well Messi still has more goals than Ronaldo from when he joined Madrid to this very moment , so I don't get your statement . Same thing should be said about Ronaldo who started his career earlier than Messi .
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Obiaksnews: 8:07am On Oct 18, 2019
Seems like you are forgetting Messi has played 163 games more than Ronaldo, he was there for seasons before Ronaldo moved over.
chiboy1116:
Ur actually been sentimental here , Ronaldo has 18 goals against Barca , Messi has 29 gols against ATM . And 26 goals against Madrid .
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by chiboy1116: 3:36pm On Oct 18, 2019
Obiaksnews:
Seems like you are forgetting Messi has played 163 games more than Ronaldo, he was there for seasons before Ronaldo moved over.
Messi still has more goals than Ronaldo , from 2009-2018. smiley
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Obiaksnews: 3:49pm On Oct 18, 2019
This is a comparison of their La liga goals from 2009, so what do you have to say?
chiboy1116:
Messi still has more goals than Ronaldo , from 2009-2018. smiley

Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Sportwin(m): 7:24pm On Oct 18, 2019
Olusola101990:
Ronaldo gives one basic solution "goals" nw how about if the game is so intense and lockedown making him nt to get required services to score....then he wonders around doing nting abi...we ave seen dis happen frequent times...with messi u ave more than one solution...wen his nt scoring his pushing the team...going past players...laying dangerous and incisive passes ....it still baffles me how some pple will believe a player that leads in all stats in Europe last season has a lesser functionality to a player who stays upfront to score en wen he doesn't he does virtually nting....


Look at this one
Shey Spain match nko

Oga talk with sense na

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Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Sportwin(m): 7:24pm On Oct 18, 2019
Obiaksnews:
This is a comparison of their La liga goals from 2009, so what do you have to say?


Lol
Dem no go talk now oo
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by yungsmart(m): 11:13am On Oct 19, 2019
Sportwin:



Lol
Dem no go talk now oo

Why we no go talk we all know messi doesn't only contribute goals in a game he has assist too show us the assist trophies and dribbles stats since 2009
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by yungsmart(m): 11:15am On Oct 19, 2019
Obiaksnews:
This is a comparison of their La liga goals from 2009, so what do you have to say?

we all know messi doesn't only contribute goals in a game he has assist too show us the assist trophies and dribbles stats since 2009
Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by hinohsend: 5:31pm On Oct 19, 2019
uzoma213:
you can see it at the top left. Messi has one, Ronaldo has two

Messi has been named FiFa's player of the year 6 times (2009,10,11,12,15,19), Ronaldo 5 times(2008,13,14,16,17). Stop arguing rubbish.

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Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by uzoma213(m): 6:19pm On Oct 19, 2019
hinohsend:


Messi has been named FiFa's player of the year 6 times (2009,10,11,12,15,19), Ronaldo 5 times(2008,13,14,16,17). Stop arguing rubbish.
who get strength to argue with this one... You will see picture evidence and still want to argue

Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by hinohsend: 8:24pm On Oct 19, 2019

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Re: Who Poses More Danger: Messi Or Ronaldo? (With Photos) by Nobody: 9:28pm On Oct 19, 2019
I was just watching Barca's game today against Eider and was awed at Messi's selflessness as he passed the ball to Suarez to score when he could have.

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