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When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 1:05pm On Oct 23, 2019
Hello

Like the topic implied, sometimes I think that too much of everything is bad even too much of good things when it comes in surplus for us we humans tend to missue and abuse it.

One of such is freedom.. sometimes when we humans are being given freedom without limitation we usually turn into nuisance especially one which you didn't fight for but was given to you on a platter of gold.

That brings me to the topic... There's a raging debate going on right now about a father in Texas who lost the right to prevent his seven years old son from being transformed into a girl. The judge ruled in favor of the mother for the boy to be castrated chemically.

This is not fair at all to the little boy because he is just seven, what does he know about gender changing. That is what the cartoon he has been watching FROZEN projected on him and he followed it hook line and sinker . At least when we were growing up there were some of our agemates who were acting tomboyish but as they got older they transformed into beautiful feminine women

Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by bukatyne(f): 1:49pm On Oct 23, 2019
The West will collapse on itself soon.

Africa is not any better.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by crackhaus: 4:05pm On Oct 23, 2019
virgoquin:
Hello

Like the topic implied, sometimes I think that too much of everything is bad even too much of good things when it comes in surplus for us we humans tend to missue and abuse it.

One of such is freedom.. sometimes when we humans are being given freedom without limitation we usually turn into nuisance especially one which you didn't fight for but was given to you on a platter of gold.

That brings me to the topic... There's a raging debate going on right now about a father in Texas who lost the right to prevent his seven years old son from being transformed into a girl. The judge ruled in favor of the mother for the boy to be castrated chemically.

This is not fair at all to the little boy because he is just seven, what does he know about gender changing. That is what the cartoon he has been watching FROZEN projected on him and he followed it hook line and sinker . At least when we were growing up there was some of our agemates who were acting tomboyish but as they got older they transformed into beautiful feminine women

Lalasticlala
You should have offered the full context of the story so people reading can make a more accurate assessment. I could not connect anything in what you typed and proceeded to do my own digging on Daily Wire.


Apparently, the boy James is one of a set of twins. His parents are divorced and the mother (a doctor) has full custody. The father claims that he started noticing that anytime he is on FaceTime with the boys, James is wearing girl clothes, is on makeup, fake eye-lashes, and prefers to be called Luna. When he asked, his ex-wife told him that James himself made a decision to be a girl and that she is in support of it. In fact, she intends to help him undergo a chemical castration process which is part of gender reassignment...this will be when he gets to the age it is allowed (past puberty).

Mr. Younger, the father is sensibly against this and took his wife to court citing that:
1. A child does not have the informed capacity to make a decision regarding a choice of gender.
2. His ex-wife cannot unilaterally decide to dress their son as a girl, neither can she unilaterally decide to help him undergo gender reassignment procedures when the time comes.
3. His ex-wife is liable for emotional & sexual abuse by her actions.
4. In view of all the above, he wishes the court to grant him full conservatorship (not to be confused with full custody) of the twins.

From the interview he gave, he also claimed that James ONLY dresses as a girl and wants to be called Luna when he is with his mother. The boy acts normal when he is with him, so he is also rightly questioning his ex-wife's personal motives in all this.

The court by decision of 11 out of 12 members of the jury not only stripped him of shared conservatorship of the twins, but also granted the ex-wife full conservatorship. This means that even if he thought he had any say before in the life of his kids, now they made sure by law that he has no say whatsoever.
Only their mother can now decide how she wants to raise the twins, and if she wishes to commence gender reassignment hormonal therapy when James hits puberty, then she does not need her ex-husband's opinion and can go ahead.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by crackhaus: 4:13pm On Oct 23, 2019
This is what happens when some misguided people (they know themselves) think that women's rights are more important than men's rights, when in fact the only thing that should matter to sensible people is human rights.

The mother of that boy should have been ordered to go for psychiatric evaluation before any judgement was made on the case because I have a feeling she might actually be missing a few bolts in her head.
If that 7year old boy decides he wants to start having sex tomorrow, I'm sure his mother will also allow it.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Omojudy: 5:40pm On Oct 23, 2019
Sometimes I think it’s better to raise our children at home ie Nigeria rather than seek abroad prospects!
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by liberalchick(f): 6:50pm On Oct 23, 2019
virgoquin:
Hello

Like the topic implied, sometimes I think that too much of everything is bad even too much of good things when it comes in surplus for us we humans tend to missue and abuse it.

One of such is freedom.. sometimes when we humans are being given freedom without limitation we usually turn into nuisance especially one which you didn't fight for but was given to you on a platter of gold.

That brings me to the topic... There's a raging debate going on right now about a father in Texas who lost the right to prevent his seven years old son from being transformed into a girl. The judge ruled in favor of the mother for the boy to be castrated chemically.

This is not fair at all to the little boy because he is just seven, what does he know about gender changing. That is what the cartoon he has been watching FROZEN projected on him and he followed it hook line and sinker . At least when we were growing up there was some of our agemates who were acting tomboyish but as they got older they transformed into beautiful feminine women

Lalasticlala

This is a misleading post.

The “transition” is social transitioning, no courts will grant any parent any right to medically transition a minor. The bolded is what the mother went to fight for in court. The boy is in a girly phase and the father wanted to suppress it, just as our “agemates” were allowed to phase out their tomboy period this mother wants her son to be able to do the same.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 7:15pm On Oct 23, 2019
The jury's decision is ridiculous.

Thankfully, there's a petition going on right now for him on change.org, for anyone interested in signing to hopefully stop the chemical castration.

I've signed!

https://www.change.org/p/save-6-year-old-boy-ja-d-y-from-chemical-castration
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 7:44pm On Oct 23, 2019
liberalchick:


This is a misleading post.

The “transition” is social transitioning, no courts will grant any parent any right to medically transition a minor. The bolded is what the mother went to fight for in court. The boy is in a girly phase and the father wanted to suppress it, just as our “agemates” were allowed to phase out their tomboy period this mother wants her son to be able to do the same.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/41k-outraged-protectjamesyounger-tweets-after-jury-rules-dad-cant-save-son-from-transition

Go through this link and you will see that the mother wants a physical gender change for the boy but the father is fighting against it.

Yes the court allowed that he should transitioned into a girl medically, that is why there's so much outrage from different quaters
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 7:46pm On Oct 23, 2019
theButterfly:
The jury's decision is ridiculous.

Thankfully, there's a petition going on right now for him on change.org, for anyone interested in signing to hopefully stop the chemical castration.

I've signed!

https://www.change.org/p/save-6-year-old-boy-ja-d-y-from-chemical-castration
The link you posted is not clicking
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 7:54pm On Oct 23, 2019
crackhaus:
This is what happens when some misguided people (they know themselves) think that women's rights are more important than men's rights, when in fact the only thing that should matter to sensible people is human rights.

The mother of that boy should have been ordered to go for psychiatric evaluation before any judgement was made on the case because I have a feeling she might actually be missing a few bolts in her head.
If that 7year old boy decides that he wants to start having sex tomorrow, I'm sure his mother will also allow it.
I read somewhere that she is not the biological mother of the boy. The father said he was conceived with eggs from donor

She is best described as a lunatic and heartless human being. She is supposed to be in a mental home right now and not looking after little kids making stupid decisions for them
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 7:56pm On Oct 23, 2019
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Fountainofyouth(f): 8:03pm On Oct 23, 2019
Very deluded people, the mother of that boy is not in her right senses, she needs psychiatric evaluation, that woman is making a decision based on what she wants her son to be; a girl, she is pushing and making the child to do all things girly, and the jurors who decided the nonsense are biased, they made their decision because of the gender, not cos of the child, very somehow people, these so called rights, freedom bla bla bla the westerners chant about will soon implode on them, it's just a matter of time.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by crackhaus: 8:03pm On Oct 23, 2019
virgoquin:

I read somewhere that she is not the biological mother of the boy. The father said he was conceived with eggs from donor

She is best described as a lunatic and heartless human being. She is supposed to be in a mental home right now and not looking after little kids making stupid decisions for them
Ahh, really?

I couldn't agree more with your second paragraph.
After they send her to the mental home, she should also be chained to a bed for good measure.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 8:09pm On Oct 23, 2019
theButterfly:

Try again. https://www.change.org/p/save-6-year-old-boy-ja-d-y-from-chemical-castration
Thanks have done that already.

I just feel so pity for the little boy because his mother is about to cause an irreparable psychological damage.

Lunatic mother

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by bukatyne(f): 8:12pm On Oct 23, 2019
Omojudy:
Sometimes I think it’s better to raise our children at home ie Nigeria rather than seek abroad prospects!

I agree with you.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by liberalchick(f): 8:13pm On Oct 23, 2019
FALSE

The court’s verdict is NOT about whether the boy should transition or not it was for child custody.

The father took the mother to court for full custody, his defense, that the mother is manipulating the boy into dressing up as a girl and that if the mother has full custody she can potentially manipulate him into getting it done medically when he is of age. Apparently the courts didn’t believe him and they awarded full custody to the mother.

Each had their own doctors/professional witnesses, the court also heard from neighbors and teachers. Ultimately, the court decided the boy is going through a phase and he is not being manipulated and they decided to award custody to the parent that is not going to suppress that phase.

The fake news going round is the defense that the father presented in court and the court found them baseless. You have to know for custody hearings both sides present outlandish claims to get custody. It is the duty of the court to separate facts from fiction.

I can’t believe I am going to quote dailymail but here you go: mainstream media is not even carrying this non news.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7604687/Jury-rules-against-dad-trying-stop-son-transitioning-girl.html

virgoquin:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/41k-outraged-protectjamesyounger-tweets-after-jury-rules-dad-cant-save-son-from-transition

Go through this link and you will see that the mother wants a physical gender change for the boy but the father is fighting against it.

Yes the court allowed that he should transitioned into a girl medically, that is why there's so much outrage from different quaters

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 8:15pm On Oct 23, 2019
crackhaus:

Ahh, really?

I couldn't agree more with your second paragraph.
After they send her to the mental home, she should also be chained to a bed for good measure.

I heard that she has people that is backing her up financially making her to feel powerful.

The LGBT community is one of the most annoying group of people on planet Earth.

They are always demanding for right and fairness which they are not willing to give to this Lil boy. They are the ones behind this lunatic mother making her to feel powerful.
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 8:20pm On Oct 23, 2019
bukatyne:
The West will collapse on itself soon.

Africa is not any better.
They don't have any challenges disturbing them right now so they are trying to create one for themselves

Small time we will start seeing some fighting for the right for them to start marrying corpse and underages
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by bukatyne(f): 8:27pm On Oct 23, 2019
theButterfly:

Try again. https://www.change.org/p/save-6-year-old-boy-ja-d-y-from-chemical-castration

I have signed the petition anonymously.

We need to stop madness one at a time.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by bukatyne(f): 8:28pm On Oct 23, 2019
virgoquin:

They don't have any challenges disturbing them right now so they are trying to create one for themselves

Small time we will start seeing some fighting for the right for them to start marrying corpse and underages

They are no longer fighting for survival.

Marshallow's hierarchy of needs.
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by bukatyne(f): 8:41pm On Oct 23, 2019
liberalchick:
FALSE

The court’s verdict is NOT about whether the boy should transition or not it was for child custody.

The father took the mother to court for full custody, his defense, that the mother is manipulating the boy into dressing up as a girl and that if the mother has full custody she can potentially manipulate him into getting it done medically when he is of age. Apparently the courts didn’t believe him and they awarded full custody to the mother.

Each had their own doctors/professional witnesses, the court also heard from neighbors and teachers. Ultimately, the court decided the boy is going through a phase and he is not being manipulated and they decided to award custody to the parent that is not going to suppress that phase.

The fake news going round is the defense that the father presented in court and the court found them baseless. You have to know for custody hearings both sides present outlandish claims to get custody. It is the duty of the court to separate facts from fiction.

I can’t believe I am going to quote dailymail but here you go: mainstream media is not even carrying this non news.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7604687/Jury-rules-against-dad-trying-stop-son-transitioning-girl.html


God willing, they will not succeed.

Our tomboys and tomgirls don't change their names or do they consider sex change.

We all know their birth sex and treat them as such. What concerns doctors or psychologists with their issues?

You know that once the girls hit puberty sprouting breasts, they automatically become girlie. Ditto the guy's.

The outlines are the Bob riskys.

It is unfortunately not so in the West.

Except we are saying God who determined the sex of a child doesn't know what He is doing.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by Nobody: 8:42pm On Oct 23, 2019
liberalchick:
FALSE

The court’s verdict is NOT about whether the boy should transition or not it was for child custody.

The father took the mother to court for full custody, his defense, that the mother is manipulating the boy into dressing up as a girl and that if the mother has full custody she can potentially manipulate him into getting it done medically when he is of age. Apparently the courts didn’t believe him and they awarded full custody to the mother.

Each had their own doctors/professional witnesses, the court also heard from neighbors and teachers. Ultimately, the court decided the boy is going through a phase and he is not being manipulated and they decided to award custody to the parent that is not going to suppress that phase.

The fake news going round is the defense that the father presented in court and the court found them baseless. You have to know for custody hearings both sides present outlandish claims to get custody. It is the duty of the court to separate facts from fiction.

I can’t believe I am going to quote dailymail but here you go: mainstream media is not even carrying this non news.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7604687/Jury-rules-against-dad-trying-stop-son-transitioning-girl.html


Aaaaah thank you!
I knew immediately it was NL sensationalism at its best.
Only on NL will people believe such fairytales. grin
Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by crackhaus: 8:50pm On Oct 23, 2019
virgoquin:


I heard that she has people that is backing her up financially making her to feel powerful.

The LGBT community is one of the most annoying group of people on planet Earth.

They are always demanding for right and fairness which they are not willing to give to this Lil boy. They are the ones behind this lunatic mother making her to feel powerful.
It's just so silly and makes no sense among sensible people.

The same kids under 18 who they say cannot give informed consent before engaging in sex acts, suddenly are now well informed enough to decide if they want to be a boy or a girl.
It's a travesty.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by ednut1(m): 8:58pm On Oct 23, 2019
This is not our problem here. Over here some tag kids witches and abandon them

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by liberalchick(f): 9:03pm On Oct 23, 2019
bukatyne:


Our tomboys and tomgirls don't change their names or do they consider sex change.

For the Zillionth time NO sex change. How can there even be a sex change when the boy has not gone through puberty? If there will be a sex change it will be when the boy is of age and can decide for himself.

It was a custody battle, the father wanted sole custody because he disagrees with the son dressing up as a girl and calling himself Luna. The mother got therapists for him and based on their professional opinion, they told the mother to affirm. If it’s a phase then he will grow out of it simple.

The court heard from both sides, and they concluded the boy was better off with the parent that wasn’t going to force him to wear boys clothes.

bukatyne:


We all know their birth sex and treat them as such. What concerns doctors or psychologists with their issues?
“Gerogulas’s (the mother) witnesses in the trial were mostly therapists or counselors who said that James told them that he was a girl and wanted to be called “Luna.”

Younger’s witnesses (the father) in the trial, while not having met James, were medical professionals who pointed out the dangers of a “social transition” and the “medical transition” it usually leads to.”

The bolded quote was what right wing media purposely used to create this false news. The jury didn’t buy that allowing a boy to live out a phase will make him get a sex change in future. Which based on the posts on this thread seems to be a good decision. Many of you on this thread have referenced tomboys, so we do know that just because you dress as a boy when you were a young girl doesn’t mean you would want a sex change when you become an adult.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by liberalchick(f): 9:16pm On Oct 23, 2019
Don’t mind them. They quickly believed this very false news because it aligns with their bias.

You can be anti-LGBTQ, that’s fine, it’s your right. However, do so with the facts and the truth. We are in perilous times now with fake news and the internet, it was a right wing dude that started this madness on twitter. If you notice reputable mainstream media is not reporting it.

It’s very easy and tempting to believe news that confirms your bias, that’s why we have so many blogs and ‘journalists’ making money from disseminating false or misleading news.

When the case is fully over and if it’s going to be made public will keep updating for the court transcripts. For a conservative leaning court to award full custody to the woman, I am curious to see the evidence that was presented in court.

Mindfulness:


Aaaaah thank you!
I knew immediately it was NL sensationalism at its best.
Only on NL will people believe such fairytales. grin

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by bukatyne(f): 9:39pm On Oct 23, 2019
liberalchick:


For the Zillionth time NO sex change. How can there even be a sex change when the boy has not gone through puberty? If there will be a sex change it will be when the boy is of age and can decide for himself.

It was a custody battle, the father wanted sole custody because he disagrees with the son dressing up as a girl and calling himself Luna. The mother got therapists for him and based on their professional opinion, they told the mother to affirm. If it’s a phase then he will grow out of it simple.

The court heard from both sides, and they concluded the boy was better off with the parent that wasn’t going to force him to wear boys clothes.


“Gerogulas’s (the mother) witnesses in the trial were mostly therapists or counselors who said that James told them that he was a girl and wanted to be called “Luna.”

Younger’s witnesses (the father) in the trial, while not having met James, were medical professionals who pointed out the dangers of a “social transition” and the “medical transition” it usually leads to.”

The bolded quote was what right wing media purposely used to create this false news. The jury didn’t buy that allowing a boy to live out a phase will make him get a sex change in future. Which based on the posts on this thread seems to be a good decision. Many of you on this thread have referenced tomboys, so we do know that just because you dress as a boy when you were a young girl doesn’t mean you would want a sex change when you become an adult.

According to the therapists, if he doesn't grow out of it, what happens?

Besides, what is the usefulness of the parents if they cannot put the boy on the right part and re-affirm to him that he is a boy?

If he thinks he is a goat tomorrow and starts to eat grass, will his mom look for therapists or insist that he is human?

If he believes that he can not achieve anything, will she get the therapists' opinion or take him through self esteem and self love courses to re-affirm that he can excel in whatever he does?

Why this yeye sexual/ gender politics?

You can't compare Nigerian Tomboyism to this. Which Nigerian parent would flog the madness out of Shade who asks to be called Tunji?

Each continent has their madness.

The same way I wouldn't compare an American calling a child a witch to a Nigerian.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by 24kmagic: 9:55pm On Oct 23, 2019
Its taking away the right of the boy, yes, but it's not taking away the joy of the mother.
In the first place, why is such right in place?

This shit is coming to Africa and Nigeria especially, soon.

I thought you guys want to live like the whites? We're getting there!

LGBT and feminism movement started like this, now look at the damage it has done and keep doing to our society? Marriages no longer last because the wife wants to be equal to the husband.

I always say this.... Not everything that comes from the whites is good. They are morally bankrupt.

I like the whites for some very few things like education, science and technology, lawfulness and their patriotism.

Oyibo life no good at all.

Every thing for oyibo man side na civilization. Just imagine this nonsense?


We are in trouble with these guys.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by liberalchick(f): 10:14pm On Oct 23, 2019
bukatyne:


According to the therapists, if he doesn't grow out of it, what happens?

Besides, what is the usefulness of the parents if they cannot put the boy on the right part and re-affirm to him that he is a boy?

If he thinks he is a goat tomorrow and starts to eat grass, will his mom look for therapists or insist that he is human?

If he believes that he can not achieve anything, will she get the therapists' opinion or take him through self esteem and self love courses to re-affirm that he can excel in whatever he does?

Why this yeye sexual/ gender politics?

You can't compare Nigerian Tomboyism to this. Which Nigerian parent would flog the madness out of Shade who asks to be called Tunji?

Each continent has their madness.

The same way I wouldn't compare an American calling a child a witch to a Nigerian.

If he doesn’t outgrow it, then as a legal adult he can decide for himself.

As you’ve rightfully said this is America and their culture is light years ahead of ours in terms of the rights of an individual. The jury made a decision based on the laws written and voted in by members of their society.

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by crackhaus: 10:27pm On Oct 23, 2019
bukatyne:


According to the therapists, if he doesn't grow out of it, what happens?

Besides, what is the usefulness of the parents if they cannot put the boy on the right part and re-affirm to him that he is a boy?

If he thinks he is a goat tomorrow and starts to eat grass, will his mom look for therapists or insist that he is human?

If he believes that he can not achieve anything, will she get the therapists' opinion or take him through self esteem and self love courses to re-affirm that he can excel in whatever he does?

Why this yeye sexual/ gender politics?

You can't compare Nigerian Tomboyism to this. Which Nigerian parent would flog the madness out of Shade who asks to be called Tunji?

Each continent has their madness.

The same way I wouldn't compare an American calling a child a witch to a Nigerian.
cheesy cheesy

Don't bother.
Only SJWs will try to explain away this stupidity.

The 7year old boy told therapists that he was a girl and wanted to be called Luna, so therefore his mother was professionally advised to allow him socially transition and not suppress him.
If James had also told the therapists he was a fish and wanted to live underwater, I'm sure they would advise his mother to begin dressing him up in Aquaman costumes and start training him on how to live inside an aquarium.



There's a movie out now titled 'Joker'. Most theatres showing it employed extra security and banned people from painting their faces or wearing the Joker mask into their premises. One theatre in particular completely refused to screen the movie because it was the scene of a shooting back when 'Batman: The Dark Knight' came out.
Apparently, one movie goer then had worn the joker costume and murdered people in that theatre. He, just like little James here, thought that he was the real life incarnation of the Joker character from the movies.
I am pretty sure that before he left home that day, his parents just like James' mother, thought telling him to dress normal would have been suppression.

Jokers, all of them...

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by KevinDein: 11:22pm On Oct 23, 2019
Supporting LGBT rights set everything in motion. It's a slippery slope now. Anything goes...very soon paedophilia, necrophilia, xxxxphilia will be perfectly ok.

Also notice how it's always a mum thats raising her son as a girl. See Charlize Theron, LMAO. Misandrists (basically, feminists) have so much hate in their hearts they can't even love their male children. Lol

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Re: When Freedom Starts Taking Away Our Rights by nlPoster: 1:13am On Oct 24, 2019
sometimes when we humans are being given freedom without limitation we usually turn into nuisance


Do you have any suggestions on how people can utilize their free time in order not to allow it to turn nuisance value?

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