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Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody:
Donald Trump will be impeached on Bribery Charges by Congress.
This is a felony that warrants jail time.
All his top state department officials have claimed on the record a
case of attempted bribery by President Trump in the burgeoning
Ukraine scandal.
More updates to come
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by bluebay(m): 7:59am On Nov 13, 2019
I put to you that Trump won't.be impeached .
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 1:22pm On Nov 13, 2019
babaearly1:
Donald Trump will be impeached on Bribery Charges by Congress. This is a felony that warrants jail time. All his top state department officials have claimed on the record a case of attempted bribery by trump with this Ukraine scandal.
More updates to come
Just the opposite. Nobody paid Trump. Now on the other hand the Ukrainian energy company paid/bribed the Bidens
for special treatment and to end an investigation into that company.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 1:40pm On Nov 13, 2019
CTPlayer:
Just the opposite. Nobody paid Trump. Now on the other hand the Ukrainian energy company paid/bribed the Bidens
for special treatment and to end an investigation into that company.
It's not a case of someone paying trump
It's a case of a president demanding a favor for his own personal political interest
not for the interest of the USA. You seem to agree on that, so what else?
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 1:42pm On Nov 13, 2019
bluebay:
I put to you that Trump won't.be impeached .
well you can't say
The impeachment hearings are going public, and it could sway public view in much greater percentage in favor of impeaching trump
also note that there might be a Secret ballot vote by the senate, when thats the case, kiss trump Goodbye
He also has criminal cases from New York. So he will most likely be brought down by something
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 3:24pm On Nov 13, 2019
babaearly1:
It's not a case of someone paying trump
It's a case of a president demanding a favor for his own personal political interest
not for the interest of the USA. You seem to agree on that, so what else?
Before giving Ukraine more money at the minimum somebody needed to investigate this. If the FBI, DOJ, Congress were not so corrupt and at the very least a President should surely inquire about it. People act as though because Biden is a candidate that it should be illegal to investigate him or his son. Laughable considering the CIA, FBI, DOJ, all of the deep state conspired so that Trump would not get elected and continued after he got elected.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 3:25pm On Nov 13, 2019
babaearly1:
well you can't say
The impeachment hearings are going public, and it could sway public view in much greater percentage in favor of impeaching trump
also note that there might be a Secret ballot vote by the senate, when thats the case, kiss trump Goodbye
He also has criminal cases from New York. So he will most likely be brought down by something
LOL nothing but a clown show. It will only help Trump get elected again.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by CTPlayer: 3:34pm On Nov 13, 2019
Ruh roh

‘Whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella Was Hosting 2016 WH Meeting Where Ukrainian Officials Were Told to Drop Investigation on Hunter Biden!

Ciaramella claimed he was concerned about President Trump’s discussion of Hunter Biden during his call with Ukrainian President Zelensky.

Now we know why Ciaramella was so concerned.
According to White House visitor logs Eric Ciaramella was hosting the January 19, 2016 White House meeting where Ukrainian officials were told to drop the investigation into Hunter Biden.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/ciaramella-telizhenko.jpg

Investigative reporter John Solomon at The Hill reported in April on the January 2016 meeting between Ukrainian officials and Obama officials at the White House.

The other case raised at the January 2016 meeting, Telizhenko said, involved Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company under investigation in Ukraine for improper foreign transfers of money. At the time, Burisma allegedly was paying then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter as both a board member and a consultant. More than $3 million flowed from Ukraine to an American firm tied to Hunter Biden in 2014-15, bank records show.

According to Telizhenko, U.S. officials told the Ukrainians they would prefer that Kiev drop the Burisma probe and allow the FBI to take it over. The Ukrainians did not agree. But then Joe Biden pressured Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in March 2016, as I previously reported. The Burisma case was transferred to NABU, then shut down.

According to Stephen McIntyre the demand that Ukrainian top prosecutor Viktor Shokin be fired as a condition for IMF loan almost certainly originated with Biden staff. The demand was first announced to Ukrainian prosecutors at a January 19, 2016 meeting with US officials hosted by Eric Ciaramella.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/huge-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-was-hosting-2016-wh-meeting-where-ukrainian-officials-were-told-to-drop-investigation-of-hunter-biden/
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 5:19pm On Nov 13, 2019
CTPlayer:
LOL nothing but a clown show. It will only help Trump get elected again.
I don't think so, if you are listening to the hearings right now, i think you will go back to your cupboard and sleep
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody:
CTPlayer:
Before giving Ukraine more money at the minimum somebody needed to investigate this. If the FBI, DOJ, Congress were not so corrupt and at the very least a President should surely inquire about it. People act as though because Biden is a candidate that it should be illegal to investigate him or his son. Laughable considering the CIA, FBI, DOJ, all of the deep state conspired so that Trump would not get elected and continued after he got elected.
with all public knowledge that ukraine officials even knew about the hold before politico reported it,
after CONGRESS has already approved it and to add to the mix state department officials testimony.
The USA is not like a banana republic. each functions of Government has its own role they play.
The Congress appropriates funds, the Judiciary makes sense of it and the Executive executes it.
But Trump does not want to know how America's constitution works, and that
will shoot him in his foot.
I really think you people who follow these conspiracy qanon nonsense need some psychiatric help, seriously

And also i agree with you Biden is corrupt, does that absolve trump of his own sprawling corruption?
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:02pm On Nov 13, 2019
Live Updates of the Impeachment begins, lets run it here
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:02pm On Nov 13, 2019
Peter Alexander

56m ago / 5:03 PM WAT
Trump's not watching
Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham said President Donald Trump is currently not watching the impeachment proceedings.

"He is in the Oval Office in meetings," she said. "He is working."
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:03pm On Nov 13, 2019
Bill Taylor testifies member of his staff overheard Sondland discussing 'the investigations' with Trump

NOV. 13, 201901:19

“Following the call with President Trump, the member of my staff asked Ambassador Sondland what President Trump thought about Ukraine,” Taylor continued. “Ambassador Sondland responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden, which Giuliani was pressing for. At the time I gave my deposition on Oct. 22, I was not aware of this information. I am including it here for completeness.”

Trump had asked Zelenskiy in their July 25 call to investigate a debunked conspiracy theory about Democrats and the 2016 election as well as former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, who sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:04pm On Nov 13, 2019
Taylor reveals call between Sondland and Trump discussing Biden probe

Taylor made new revelations about Trump’s Ukraine conduct in his opening statement Wednesday, detailing a phone call between the president and Sondland where they discussed the Biden "investigations."

Taylor said he only recently learned of these comments, which occurred on July 26. Taylor said a member of his staff who accompanied Sondland to a meeting with a top Ukrainian diplomat told him of the remarks last Friday.

“Following that meeting, in the presence of my staff at a restaurant, Ambassador Sondland called President Trump and told him of his meetings in Kyiv,” Taylor said. “The member of my staff could hear President Trump on the phone, asking Ambassador Sondland about ‘the investigations.’ Ambassador Sondland told President Trump that the Ukrainians were ready to move forward.”
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:06pm On Nov 13, 2019
Fighting Putin: Taylor explains why U.S. aide to Ukraine really matters

Bill Taylor provided something few others have for the American public: an easy-to-understand explanation of the importance of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

It wasn't quite as simple as "Vlad is bad," but it was close. "It is clearly in our national interest to deter further Russian aggression," Taylor said in his opening statement.

He explained how a corrupt pro-Russian Ukrainian president allowed the military to atrophy and then fled to Russia in 2014 just before Vladimir Putin annexed parts of Ukraine and pushed his forces into others. But the Ukrainian people, with the support of the West, have fought back.

"In response to the Russian invasion, the new Ukrainian authorities — with an amazing outpouring of support from regular Ukrainian people — rebuilt the army, nearly from scratch, spending more than 5 percent of Ukrainian GDP on defense since the war started," Taylor said.

Image: FINLAND-US-RUSSIA-POLITICS-DIPLOMACY-SUMMITRussia's President Vladimir Putin listens while U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a press conference at Finland's Presidential Palace on July 16, 2018 in Helsinki, Finland.Brendan Smialowski / AFP - Getty Images file
"The whole Ukrainian nation fiercely responded to the Russian attack. The nation united like never before. A rag-tag army developed into a strong fighting force. And the United States played a vital role."

Taylor testified that it would be "crazy" to withhold security assistance to Ukraine to serve a domestic political end.

The attacks are ongoing, he said, noting that he had been on the front line last week, and he pointed out that the aid is a signal that "we are Ukraine’s reliable strategic partner." By withholding aid, he said, the U.S. would undermine and humiliate the new Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, which would benefit and please Russia.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:07pm On Nov 13, 2019
deep state?

Taylor's opening statement details shadow Ukraine policy

Taylor shared several new pieces of information in his opening statement Wednesday, including his belief that White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney was an integral part of an “irregular” communication channel between Washington and Kyiv and that the Ukrainians were “ready to move forward” with the probes desired by the White House.

Taylor, however, also reiterated his belief that he felt it was “clear” that a proposed White House meeting between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was tied to launching investigations into the Bidens and a conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election — information he shared in his closed-door testimony in October.

“By mid-July it was becoming clear to me that the meeting President Zelenskiy wanted was conditioned on the investigations of Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections. It was also clear that this condition was driven by the irregular policy channel I had come to understand was guided by Mr. Giuliani,” Taylor testified Wednesday.

That “irregular” channel also included Kurt Volker, the former special envoy to Ukraine; Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland; Energy Secretary Rick Perry — and Mulvaney.

Revealing new information, Taylor also testified that one of his staffers heard Sondland on the phone on July 26 with Trump and could hear Trump ask about “the investigations.” Sondland told Trump in the overheard conversation that the Ukrainians were ready to move forward with the desired investigations.

The staffer then asked Sondland what Trump thought about Ukraine and Sondland said that “Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden.”

Earlier in his opening statement, Taylor reiterated that “withholding security assistance in exchange for help with a domestic political campaign in the U.S. would be crazy.”

"I believed that then, and I believe it now."
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:07pm On Nov 13, 2019
Schiff presses Taylor on overheard call between Trump and Sondland

Following Taylor’s opening statement, Schiff pressed him for details and clarity on his revelation that one of his staffers had overheard a July 26 conversation between Sondland and Trump in which the president asked about “the investigations.”

Schiff asked Taylor if “the investigations” referred to desired probes into the Bidens and a conspiracy related to the 2016 election.

“That is correct,” Taylor said.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:08pm On Nov 13, 2019
Did the whistleblower's attorney call for a 'coup' in 2017?

Earlier this morning, Trump retweeted a White House video condemning the impeachment hearings, claiming that an attorney for the still anonymous whistleblower had advocated for a "coup" to overthrow the president in 2017.

That lawyer, Mark S. Zaid, in 2017 tweeted that he believed a “coup” was beginning when Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates was fired for refusing to defend an executive order banning travel from seven Muslim-majority countries.

There’s no evidence Zaid called for, encouraged, or incited any kind of action against the president. In a statement to Fox News, Zaid said “the coup comment referred to those working inside the Administration who were already, just a week into office, standing up to him to enforce recognized rules of law.”

Read more about Zaid's background here.

Trump’s video also included a call to action: read the transcript of the July 25 call with the president of Ukraine that in part inspired the whistleblower's complaint. There is no transcript — there is a White House memo detailing the contents of call. It is not a complete transcript, according to the White House's own description.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:10pm On Nov 13, 2019
New impeachment depositions announced for this week

Midway through the hearing, Democrats added two more impeachment depositions to their docket.

Per two officials working on the impeachment inquiry:

David Holmes is expected to testify in closed session on Friday, Nov. 15.

Mark Sandy is expected to testify in a closed session on Saturday, Nov. 16.

Holmes is the counselor for political affairs at the US Embassy in Ukraine.

Sandy is an OMB official.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:11pm On Nov 13, 2019
Taylor says he kept notes on 'all' of his conversations

In his questioning of Taylor, Goldman asked whether Taylor had kept notes about a Sept. 1 call he’d held with Sondland.

“I did,” Taylor replied.

Goldman then asked whether Taylor had kept notes “related to most of the conversations, if not all of them, that you recited in your opening statement?”

“All of them,” Taylor said.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:12pm On Nov 13, 2019
Taylor explains what Sondland meant by "stalemate"

Goldman pressed Taylor by what he felt the word "stalemate" meant when Sondland used it during a Sept. 8 phone call with Taylor.

"Ambassador Sondland also said that he had talked to President Zelenskiy and Mr. Yermak and had told them that, although this was not a quid pro quo, if President Zelenskiy did not 'clear things up in public, we would be at a stalemate,'" Taylor had said in his opening statement. Andriy Yermak is a top adviser to the Ukrainian president.

"What I understood, in that meeting, the meaning of stalemate is that the security assistance would not come," Taylor said in response to Goldman’s question.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:13pm On Nov 13, 2019
President Trump tweets out web video, Eric Trump weighs in on hearings
As the hearings move on, President Trump tweeted out a web video touching on the impeachment inquiry and attacking the Democratic presidential candidates before claiming to be the only man to "stop this chaos."


And Trump's son Eric weighed in with his take on the House proceedings:


@EricTrump
This is horribly boring... #Snoozefest
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:14pm On Nov 13, 2019
Shannon Pettypiece

@spettypi
Taylor gives several instances where Sondland says there was no quid pro quo then goes on to describe a quid pro quo where security assistance was continent on Biden, 2016 investigations
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Dannonye(f): 6:20pm On Nov 13, 2019
babaearly1:
Donald Trump will be impeached on Bribery Charges by Congress.
This is a felony that warrants jail time.
All his top state department officials have claimed on the record a
case of attempted bribery by President Trump in the burgeoning
Ukraine scandal.
More updates to come
I hope Nigeria can be like this
Where everyone will be equal and accountable before the law

Americans are conscious about the law,you can't just bribe or abuse power without consequences
We give our leaders too much power in Nigeria
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by netpro(m): 6:30pm On Nov 13, 2019
CTPlayer:
Before giving Ukraine more money at the minimum somebody needed to investigate this. If the FBI, DOJ, Congress were not so corrupt and at the very least a President should surely inquire about it. People act as though because Biden is a candidate that it should be illegal to investigate him or his son. Laughable considering the CIA, FBI, DOJ, all of the deep state conspired so that Trump would not get elected and continued after he got elected.
Trump withheld foreign aid approved by Congress for Ukraine who desperately needed it. And was pressuring the newly elected president to start an investigation that is solely for his personal gains.

It is a criminal offence. You are free to like Trump because he is Powerful and Rich. But don't hide your head in the sand.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:45pm On Nov 13, 2019
...For people with enough mobile data to stream the live hearing...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?466134-1/impeachment-hearing-william-taylor-george-kent
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:49pm On Nov 13, 2019
...The name of Ambassador Taylor staff who overheard Ambassador Snodland is David Holmes...and he will be present in Capitol Hill for a closed session on Friday...stay tuned...

Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:53pm On Nov 13, 2019
Dannonye:
I hope Nigeria can be like this
Where everyone will be equal and accountable before the law

Americans are conscious about the law,you can't just bribe or abuse power without consequences
We give our leaders too much power in Nigeria
We will never become like this until a revolution takes place
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:55pm On Nov 13, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
...For people with enough mobile data to stream the live hearing...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?466134-1/impeachment-hearing-william-taylor-george-kent
Thank You for your participation.
This is supposed to be front page topic
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 6:57pm On Nov 13, 2019
netpro:
Trump withheld foreign aid approved by Congress for Ukraine who desperately needed it. And was pressuring the newly elected president to start an investigation that is solely for his personal gains.

It is a criminal offence. You are free to like Trump because he is Powerful and Rich. But don't hide your head in the sand.
This is the truth, let's stop placating issues. Because our politicians see bribery as normal thing, does not mean americans take it lightly. The way some people dismiss this as nothing is very revealing
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 7:00pm On Nov 13, 2019
The point when Taylor says it was ‘clear' release of aid was conditioned on probes

While Taylor learned on July 18 from the Office of Management and Budget that security assistance was being held up for an unspecified reason, he said Wednesday that he didn’t understand until early September that the release of the money was conditioned on Ukraine investigating the Bidens and a 2016 election conspiracy theory.

Goldman had asked Taylor about the moment in September after Vice President Mike Pence met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in Warsaw.

Taylor replied that he learned that after that meeting, Sondland had meetings in Warsaw and described to Andriy Yermak, assistant to Zelenskiy, that the U.S. security assistance was also held up “pending announcement” by Zelenskiy in public of these investigations.

Taylor said that before that point, he only understood that a possible Trump-Zelenskiy meeting at the White House was conditioned on pursuing those investigations. But it was after the Sept. 1 meeting between Pence and Zelenskiy that it became "clear" to him that both the military aid and the possible face-to-face meeting was dependent on the announcement of those probes.
Re: Live Updates from the Trump Impeachment. by Nobody: 7:01pm On Nov 13, 2019
Hoyer: Trump has created 'a cesspool of corruption, chaos and crisis'

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer held his weekly off-camera briefing with reporters today and was asked about a variety of topics including impeachment hearings, timeline of the inquiry, government funding and the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement.

He said he has asked members not to schedule anything for the week of Dec. 16. He was asked several questions on the public perception of impeachment.

"This is not about polls," he said. "This is about each member deciding whether or not they believe the conduct clearly corroborated by many, many witnesses rises to high crimes and misdemeanors."

Hoyer also said: "The president said he was going to get rid of the swamp. What he has created is a cesspool of corruption, chaos and crisis."
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