₦airaland Forum

obidark:
i dont think buhari has that much power to dictate to dss how to do their job....

See people I argue on NL sometimes with.
Nawaooooooo
And Pa Osinbanjo sacked the DSS Director for encroaching into the 2 tier of govt?
Why cant PMB be able to do so since they encroached the 3rd tier?
See, I know Osinbanjo will never smell that presidency seat and this is how Nigeria misses opportunity to be great.
That young man Osinbanjo has shown proof he knows his onions with govt but be sure how Nigerian politics will kick him off.
Naija is cursed.

LegendHero:
We should all be frustrated bro. The implication of this is that if we continue to keep quiet the Buhari government will do more than this.

I was thinking about it today, what if the DSS arrest Falana on the charges that he’s abetting Sowore or you think they can’t? Don’t you think they are being too bold or how do you explain invading a court to arrest a bailed person in front of the judge?

If we keep quiet as Yorubas, it won’t be only Sowore, they will keep arresting everyone arrestable coz they might think we won’t talk coz we are part of the government.

Stop engaging that guy Obidark, he might be a stooge.
Truly you're right.
If PMB turns against the Yorubas today, I personally dont think the Yorubas will survive it.
Inasmuch as I don't wish the Yorubas evil as I love them too but I dont see the other southerners giving them a hand but will be silent.
So, this is the standpoint where and when the Yorubas should push though with caution.

Cherez:
Stop engaging that guy Obidark, he might be a stooge.
Truly you're right.
If PMB turns against the Yorubas today, I personally dont think the Yorubas will survive it.
Inasmuch as I don't wish the Yorubas evil as I love them too but I dont see the other southerners giving them a hand but will be silent.
So, this is the standpoint where and when the Yorubas should push though with caution.

wetin i do you....??

soo,am a stooge now for sayin my own opinion....

who sabi you sef....
their are many people on nairaland that i can still communicate with....

park....!!

obidark:
i realy didnt knew....soo wat....??

You knew. You’re just trolling me.

Broda mi kini oriki re ati pe agboole ibo lo ti wa ?

LegendHero:
You knew. You’re just trolling me.

Broda mi kini oriki re ati pe agboole ibo lo ti wa ?

i didnt knew....!!

i dont remember readin anything about bail concernin sowore,till you brought up those news sites for me to read yesterday....was it you....??

i dont remember....

LegendHero:
You knew. You’re just trolling me.

Broda mi kini oriki re ati pe agboole ibo lo ti wa ?

am not yoruba but i understand something....

you said,my brother wetin you carry head come for igbo matter....??

Yes, but i don't know why attacking Osinbajo on Sowore rearrest

Cherez:
Stop engaging that guy Obidark, he might be a stooge.
Truly you're right.
If PMB turns against the Yorubas today, I personally dont think the Yorubas will survive it.
Inasmuch as I don't wish the Yorubas evil as I love them too but I dont see the other southerners giving them a hand but will be silent.
So, this is the standpoint where and when the Yorubas should push though with caution.

Lol, you actually don’t know the Yorubas and how stubborn we are. Check the history of Nigeria well, the Yorubaland have always been the hottest point in Nigeria and we always fight a cause that transcends through Nigeria.

Right from the days of Awolowo, the western region has always been the burning point of activism and real chaos. Awo fought with everything he had against the northern hemogeny even when Akintola proved like a sellout. The western powers pre-1963 nicknamed the western region the “Stubborn Child”.

Check all the human right activist in this country that have always peak truth to power they are majorly Yorubas. Fela, Wole Soyinka, Gani Fawehinmi, Femi Falana, and etc.

Some of these guys faced the military not only because of the Yoruba interest but for the interest of the common people that cut across multiple tribes.

The NADECO force with their allies in some SE/SS fought the military government to a standstill, they fought real tyranny with everything they can.

The Yorubas are the one holding this country as one, if we can have our political bloc forming alliance with the remaining of the south then the Northerners are finished.

Yorubas have never been coward, we have history of may expedition that even dated back to the Oyo empire and successive even give credence to the fact that we are never coward. The main problem is just that we are too slow to rally for a common cause but if we get things right, then things will definitely change.

LegendHero:
I think the power of the presidency is too much and it is so sad that I can’t fathom what this nation had become.

Why can’t the Judges ditch the court? Why do we all keep going to the judges when the executive don’t obey court order? Why is the Chief Justice silent when their honor is being demeaned by Buhari? Does the judiciary even have anymore value in this county?

Picking him up in court in that gestapo style is wrong no matter how much anyone tries to justify that action!

See,
It was our silence to these kind of acts that emboldened the president and not constitutional powers.
You may feel Kanu is a devil but place side-by-side without emootions Kanu's rant and the actual killings and mayhem causes by the Fulani herdsmen and their Miyetti Allah leaders, you will understand that killing unarmed IPOB guys was such a wrong move.
But I was surprised that even the military was praised for killing and torturing publicly unarmed people.
And even creating unarmed people terrorist when he was against proscribing arm bearing BH guys.
I ask, "what makes people think PMB cannot do it to the Yorubas today?"
Personally, I see PMB as a cool guy but I detest his vindictive and heartless acts sometimes.
He is a typical Nigerian military man

obidark:
am not yoruba but i understand something....

you said,my brother wetin you carry head come for igbo matter....??

I’ve seen what I wanted to see. You are neither Yoruba nor Igbo. Are you from the north?

What I said in that Yoruba language was that “what is your birth rendition and which compound do you come from in Yorubaland

Lydia696:
Yes, but i don't know why attacking Osinbajo on Sowore rearrest

sowore fvckedup....
lets be honest....

he was in court for judges to see into his matter....
but the judge adjourned till next year to hear the matter....

ofcourse he has to return to prison till the matter is heard by the judges and a verdict is made....

some are sayin he was granted bail,but i read nothing about bail....

dss did nothing wrong....

and if you noticed,dss stormed the court room after the case was adjourned....

obidark:
and you are capable to summon that many nigerians toghether....??

Bros and when PMB finally comes for you, this will surely be your fate.
Cos you and your ilk have so incapacitated Nigerians that Nigerians cannot muster together to stand against the govt at any time?
Guy, you're gone ooooo
Just wait till the day it happens if this is your mindset.
Most of us Nigerians are just so lacking brains, sorry to say this

LegendHero:
I’ve seen what I wanted to see. You are neither Yoruba nor Igbo. Are you from the north?

What I said in that Yoruba language was that “what is your birth rendition and which compound do you come from in Yorubaland

haha....

i am....

Cherez:
Bros and when PMB finally comes for you, this will surely be your fate.
Cos you and your ilk have so incapacitated Nigerians that Nigerians cannot muster together to stand against the govt at any time?
Guy, you're gone ooooo
Just wait till the day it happens if this is your mindset.
Most of us Nigerians are just so lacking brains, sorry to say this

mutiny....??

thats insane talks....
we voted them in....if its trouble you want then dont take the opinions of those that voted buhari serious....

Cherez:
See,
It was our silence to these kind of acts that emboldened the president and not constitutional powers.
You may feel Kanu is a devil but place side-by-side without emootions Kanu's rant and the actual killings and mayhem causes by the Fulani herdsmen and their Miyetti Allah leaders, you will understand that killing unarmed IPOB guys was such a wrong move.
But I was surprised that even the military was praised for killing and torturing publicly unarmed people.
And even creating unarmed people terrorist when he was against proscribing arm bearing BH guys.
I ask, "what makes people think PMB cannot do it to the Yorubas today?"
Personally, I see PMB as a cool guy but I detest his vindictive and heartless acts sometimes.
He is a typical Nigerian military man

Tbh Kanu made it hard for the Yorubas to look the other way. The manner in which he started his agitation by making it a duty in abusing the Yorubas and instructing IPOB to kill Oyoroba bastard was one of the reason why the Yorubas antagonized him.

Imagine if Sowore was abusing the Igbos and calling them unprintable names online, do you think the Igbos supporting him now would have even gave him a listening ear?

Yes, what the government did to IPOB is totally wrong and ever sane thinking people will admit that. If you study Kanu well these days, he has learnt to control his approach such that he dosen’t just abuse the Yorubas anyhow anymore.

I know we’ve both offended eachother, we’ve done countless things to eachother that if we think about we would still maintain the animosity. But I’m tired of those rubbish online ego tripping among us both as tribes.

obidark:
haha....

i am....

What is your tribe?

LegendHero:
What is your tribe?

kiiiiki....

guess....

LegendHero:
He was granted bail twice. Are you sure you are following the news in Nigeria?

Or maybe I’m the one that is drunk. Can someone else please confirm my statement?

Lol
Stop engaging that guy, he knows nothing.
See why I agree we Nigeria s should suffer more?
I read on the news that some morons even went to protest Sowore's release.
Kai! Naija is in for a long thing

Cherez:
Lol
Stop engaging that guy, he knows nothing.
See why I agree we Nigeria s should suffer more?
I read on the news that some morons even went to protest Sowore's release.
Kai! Naija is in for a long thing

Lol, I swear some folks protested today that Sowore should not be released.

Nigeria is on a sick bed right now currently placed on a life support machine.

LegendHero:
I understand you and what you said was right.

However Jonathan was also a bad President, what can we point to as development during his period? Boko haram killing people daily, corruption in all nooks and crannies of Nigeria, state government borrowing to pay workers, and etc.

Sowore as an activist rose up like he’s been doing against past presidents and exposed the Jonathan government attrocities which made people hope in Buhari coz we long for a better Nigeria.

When Buhari turned out to be more clueless and tyrannic, Sowore once again opposed him and tried exposing the government and yet some of these guys are blaming him and talking about Jonathan like he was our former messiah.

They ridiculously said Sowore should apologize to Jonathan, Apologize to Jonathan for what? Who is Jonathan and what was his impact on Nigeria? If he had been a good president will the people be frustrated to vote for Buhari?

Try to think in this mode bro and you’ll see that I’m speaking some sense!

I am an Igbo man and I was pained seeing my fellow humans I the North getting killed daily like rams and GEJ was playing around
I just hated GEJ at that time for that at a time I felt the North also has a strong blame to handle with BH.
Remember, PMB sayin that fight against BH Is a fight against the North and was against its proscription?
I had to vote PMB against GEJ cos I felt PMB though a hardened heart might just be a changed mind but I don't vote him in 2019 cos it was clear to me PMB has a terrible hard heart.
Nevertheless, you cant take away some good deeds from GEJ which we can discuss another day.
But as per corruption, has PMB faired better? (We can also discuss this another day).
Personally, I'm tired of Nigerian politics and I will hardly ever stand for any politician.
Though I love Sowore, I dont think I am willing to fight for him cos we Nigerians wanna remain hell on earth

The bulk of the blame here should land on he table of the Attorney Genera of the Federation. He is the number one law officer in this country and ought to make sure the rule of law is strictly obeyed to the letter.

Cherez:
I am an Igbo man and I was pained seeing my fellow humans I the North getting killed daily like rams and GEJ was playing around
I just hated GEJ at that time for that at a time I felt the North also has a strong blame to handle with BH.
Remember, PMB sayin that fight against BH Is a fight against the North and was against its proscription?
I had to vote PMB against GEJ cos I felt PMB though a hardened heart might just be a changed mind but I don't vote him in 2019 cos it was clear to me PMB has a terrible hard heart.
Nevertheless, you cant take away some good deeds from GEJ which we can discuss another day.
But as per corruption, has PMB faired better? (We can also discuss this another day).
Personally, I'm tired of Nigerian politics and I will hardly ever stand for any politician.
Though I love Sowore, I dont think I am willing to fight for him cos we Nigerians wanna remain hell on earth

I understood your point. I’m not saying Buhari was better than Jonathan or Buhari government is eldorado.

I’m just sick of people coming online and claiming Sowore betrayed Jonathan. They are making it seems like Jonathan was a messiah that transformed Nigeria to a greater heights.

Both Jonathan and Buhari are clueless just that Jonathan was better because he still obeyed the rule of law. Buhari is a mistake that even the APC caucus would have regretted but since they have to hold on to power and Buhari is a god-like figure in the North, they all keep feigning loyalty to him.

Like you said, Nigeria currently is beyond redemption and right now I even don’t know what to say coz they already broke the spirit of Nigerians such that we’ve accepted the status quo. The political class have been raping us since 1979 and the irony of the matter is that the successive government keep getting worse than the former.

After Buhari, if Nigeria still remains as one entity, I’m sure the next president will be more clueless than the current tyrant

LegendHero:
Tbh Kanu made it hard for the Yorubas to look the other way. The manner in which he started his agitation by making it a duty in abusing the Yorubas and instructing IPOB to kill Oyoroba bastard was one of the reason why the Yorubas antagonized him.

Imagine if Sowore was abusing the Igbos and calling them unprintable names online, do you think the Igbos supporting him now would have even gave him a listening ear?

Yes, what the government did to IPOB is totally wrong and ever sane thinking people will admit that. If you study Kanu well these days, he has learnt to control his approach such that he dosen’t just abuse the Yorubas anyhow anymore.

I know we’ve both offended eachother, we’ve done countless things to eachother that if we think about we would still maintain the animosity. But I’m tired of those rubbish online ego tripping among us both as tribes.

Truly, Kanu is wrong till date and in anyway.
I'm even scared of people like him becoming leaders. He has a heart like PMB's.
You say, "Kanu changed his approach"? Oga, I dont trust that guy one bit. He is cunny.
My point isnt the Yorubas getting silent after all he abused them in a way that is so bad but openly supporting and hailing the killing of unarmed IPOB was so wrong.
See, bro the Yorubas cannot succeed fighting this fight without an iota of support from other tribes.
Check the history of all these fight, the govt then never received any support from other parts of the country and even some notable Igbos who didnt join the fight openly condemned the govt of those days.
Who in Yorubaland today will talk?
Those days had more men than today. It was those days that bred men like Tinubu, Sowore, Soyinka, falana and the ineffable Gani, etc. (Guy, those names brought tears to my eyes, we lost a lot in Gani).
Who and who are today being groomed for a tough fight tomorrow?
Tinubu, I bet you money he won't talk cos if he dares, he is going to court too and will loose a lot of stake cos this govt is a huge plus to him.
Can he go back to being opposition again and without the strong North and a divided South?
That's why I'm quiet about Osinbanjo not talking.
The young man has shown what he would have done, every Nigerian knows what he is capable of doing.
But right now, he is boxed in.
If he resigns, he is creating a wider gap too so he remaining there for me is still better.
Same for Tinubu, he would have been scheming on ways to go about stuff just that I'm in doubt if he will succeed against the North, so I'm sure he will stand with them.and go the way of negotiation, which is his best option for now.

Cherez:
Truly, Kanu is wrong till date and in anyway.
I'm even scared of people like him becoming leaders. He has a heart like PMB's.
You say, "Kanu changed his approach"? Oga, I dont trust that guy one bit. He is cunny.
My point isnt the Yorubas getting silent after all he abused them in a way that is so bad but openly supporting and hailing the killing of unarmed IPOB was so wrong.
See, bro the Yorubas cannot succeed fighting this fight without an iota of support from other tribes.
Check the history of all these fight, the govt then never received any support from other parts of the country and even some notable Igbos who didnt join the fight openly condemned the govt of those days.
Who in Yorubaland today will talk?
Those days had more men than today. It was those days that bred men like Tinubu, Sowore, Soyinka, falana and the ineffable Gani, etc. (Guy, those names brought tears to my eyes, we lost a lot in Gani).
Who and who are today being groomed for a tough fight tomorrow?
Tinubu, I bet you money he won't talk cos if he dares, he is going to court too and will loose a lot of stake cos this govt is a huge plus to him.
Can he go back to being opposition again and without the strong North and a divided South?
That's why I'm quiet about Osinbanjo not talking.
The young man has shown what he would have done, every Nigerian knows what he is capable of doing.
But right now, he is boxed in.
If he resigns, he is creating a wider gap too so he remaining there for me is still better.
Same for Tinubu, he would have been scheming on ways to go about stuff just that I'm in doubt if he will succeed against the North, so I'm sure he will stand with them.and go the way of negotiation, which is his best option for now.

Salute bro. You read the situation well and I wouldn’t have said it more than this.

Bless you and we’ll definitely connect on Nairaland another time. I gotta go to sleep now.

Bless you!

LegendHero:
Lol, I swear some folks protested today that Sowore should not be released.

Nigeria is on a sick bed right now currently placed on a life support machine.

yes,because some of us use their brains too....

sowore was not granted bail....period....!!

LegendHero:
Salute bro. You read the situation well and I wouldn’t have said it more than this.

Bless you and we’ll definitely connect on Nairaland another time. I gotta go to sleep now.

Bless you!

Bless you more bro
Sleep good and wake up sound.
I pray all these pass away and it shall in JESUS name.
Even if we go break up make we do am peacefully

LegendHero:
Salute bro. You read the situation well and I wouldn’t have said it more than this.

Bless you and we’ll definitely connect on Nairaland another time. I gotta go to sleep now.

Bless you!

you are going to sleep now....??

cuttestprince:
Is jonathan regime in anyhow better,we were left to made choices.everyone thought Buhari was way beta not knowing we were in for it

Cry cry baby

Attacking osinbajo doesn't make sense at this point,because we all know that as it stands today in Nigeria, the professor himself is gasping for breath.

All those who are now asking the VP to intervene were busy calling him names some weeks ago.

Please direct your appeals to Abba Kyari, since you people have crowned him de facto president nah.

007inc:
Good question. Grab a seat n seat close to me !
You see on December 18,2010, a young teenager set himself ablaze in protest of the corruption in Hosini Mubarak’s Govt in Egypt. The protests cum revolution spread like wildfire throughout the Arab regions.
Now u wanna know why I mentioned Arabs right?
What happened in court today would have resulted to serious revolution if it happened in places like Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt etc.

It was in Tunisia,not Egypt.