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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Kingxway: 12:32pm On Dec 09, 2019
dukeprince50:
I did not mention Igbo, why are you hating? mind you I am from rivers state, not Ikwerre anyways
What you people don't understand is that, as long as Ikwerres or any other ethnicity retain Igbo language and culture, they will forever be seen and regarded as Igbos. This argument will never end, forever and ever. It very natural for Igbos to see these people as part of them. You can't differentiate them. Same people in all aspect.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by nextdoor84(m): 12:32pm On Dec 09, 2019
jimyjames:


in my right mind ikweres can't claim they are not igbos or related to igbos

Do you think it's only the Igbos that claim Ikwerre as igbos?? Wake up!! Other tribes in Rivers know they are core igbos!! The ikwerres are just trying to deceive the gullible ones!! Ask any grown up person you know from any other ethnic group in Rivers, he or she will tell you Ikwerres are Igbos!!! Do you know what Ateke, Asari etc,. all call them?
But that is not my business though! We are in alliance with them as we all fighting the same course in Rivers.
They should hand over to us (Ekpeye) that's my own take.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by bigfish3k: 12:33pm On Dec 09, 2019
HopeAtHand:


Political expediency or not, Ikwerre have acquired a unique sociopolitical identity. Even if it means mutilating the Igbo language to arrive at our, we will gladly do it.

Like I already maintained, water don't cross bridge for dis mata.
the question i want ask u is :
why is it that people refer to u as igbo before u start explaining urself that u are not igbo
how many people will u be explaining to?
is it not better u accept the obvious identity and move on

other parts of rivers state refer to u people as igbos - am i lieing?

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by HopeAtHand: 12:34pm On Dec 09, 2019
bigfish3k:

ok i rest my case but the part of mutilating the igbo language is not possible. it has come to stay


What you refer as Mutilation is referred to us as Adaptation. We have adapted our language to reflect existing realities. Our language structure was revised and we arrived at what you now see and read as Ikwerre language.

Etche, Ngwa, Abiriba, Arochukwu etc could do so for themselves if they so wish. It is an open field for any people with interest.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by HopeAtHand: 12:36pm On Dec 09, 2019
bigfish3k:

the question i want ask u is :
why is it that people refer to u as igbo before u start explaining urself that u are not igbo
how many people will u be explaining to?
is it not better u accept the obvious identity and move on

They refer to us as Igbo because of the similarity if names. but every such reference is done in error and we are quick to correct and reassure people that we aren't Igbo. It isn't actually a difficult task. very easy.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Kingxway: 12:37pm On Dec 09, 2019
HopeAtHand:


We didn't retain anything, we have already evolved a new spelling of our language names

eg Dike Oha (Igbo) ---- Dikne Ohna(Ikwerre)

grin grin
Lol... Still the same. Igbos have different dialects. They all understand themselves. Every Igboid group in Rivers and Delta states will naturally understand the central Igbo when being spoken to them. These people are purely same people in all aspects. You can't differentiate them. You really can't

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by HopeAtHand: 12:41pm On Dec 09, 2019
Kingxway:
Lol... Still the same. Igbos have different dialects. They all understand themselves. Every Igboid group in Rivers and Delta states will naturally understand the central Igbo when being spoken to them. These people are purely same people in all aspects. You can't differentiate them. You really can't


Ikwerre isn't a dialect. Ikwerre is made up of at least 9 dialectalal areas. Ikwerre isn't Igbo, though Igbo's might understand us, we hardly understand them.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Kingxway: 12:47pm On Dec 09, 2019
obidark:


they already told you over and over again that they are not igbos,and you still attachin igbo to their names....
americans mostly are british....but do they identify as british today....??

latein america have their roots in spain and portugal,but do they identifie as spanish or portugies today....??
you are trying to force something that is not no more....
What you people don't understand is that, as long as Ikwerres or other ethnicity retain their Igbo language and culture, this argument will never end, forever and ever. It's quite natural for Igbos to regard them as part of them because you can't really differentiate them. I mean, these people are same people in all aspects. Never seen Igbos claim tribes like Effik, Idoma, Ibibio, etc. These are close tribes but they don't speak same language. These people speak Igbo and practice Igbo culture and traditions. They are forever one. A black man may say he is not black but as long as his skin remains black, he is fooling himself. These people are Igbos and will remain Igbos forever, unless they change their language and culture

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Elipsis: 12:51pm On Dec 09, 2019
nextdoor84:


You outsiders will never understand the politics going on in Rivers state! He was referring to those who say its their turn to rule Rivers; won't mention names. He also made a political statement that implies that power will still remain in Igboid Rivers.
Useless OP, leave the Igbos out of this!
Igbos are our big brother and so shall it be forever.
Meka!!
My brother, the thing tire me. Wike is talking about something totally different and Naiaralanders who have never even been to Rivers State, and dont understand the state's politics are dragging Igbo gist inside.
Meka sir

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by bigfish3k: 12:53pm On Dec 09, 2019
HopeAtHand:


They refer to us as Igbo because of the similarity if names. but every such reference is done in error and we are quick to correct and reassure people that we aren't Igbo. It isn't actually a difficult task. very easy.
apart from names , ur looks also betrays u
u dont need to tell them ur name before they know u are igbo

i recently went to a wedding i sat among other tribes - when they were doing their traditional greeting they by passed me
the woman who didnt know me before then later told me that i dont look like one of them that i looked igbo - i just smiled

given ur stand, i am now imagining the kind of energy and stress an ikwerreman would will have put up to disclaim that comment
any way , just airing my opinions- i rest my case

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Victorex001(m): 12:54pm On Dec 09, 2019
NinjaMetahuman:
how is majority tribe with governors since 2007 marginalised in rivers?

I’ll start by asking you have you ever been to Rivers State?
Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Kingxway: 1:01pm On Dec 09, 2019
HopeAtHand:



Ikwerre isn't a dialect. Ikwerre is made up of at least 9 dialectalal areas. Ikwerre isn't Igbo, though Igbo's might understand us, we hardly understand them.
I doubt if you are an Ikwerre person. Ikwerre is not made up nine dialects, it's made up of four family dialects, which means, these four dialects speak similar Igbo language with little difference among themselves.

I have taken time to study about Igbo dialects. They all have family dialects, that's a group of them speak a similar dialect with little differences.

I really doubt if are an Ikwerre person or even from Rivers State because everybody from igboid ethnic group will naturally understand central Igbo.

If you know where I'm from, you wouldn't be saying this. I laugh whenever I come online and see people people say we are not Igbos... bla bla. Like seriously �

Tribe is not defined by political classification. Tribes are defined by personality, language, culture and traditions.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Youngmaster0(m): 1:07pm On Dec 09, 2019
Area4Area:
Hope those "Ikwerres are Igbos" heard the message well, same Wike they'd always praise is now telling his people to emphasize on their Ikwerreness and nothing more.

Ikwerre people are not 2nd class people so they already know the 2nd class people in Nigeria, I didn't mention anybody please, just saying what I heard in the video


Yea i wonder why same wike will later decorate rivers state govt house with full igbo regalia

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by HopeAtHand: 1:08pm On Dec 09, 2019
Kingxway:
I doubt if you are an Ikwerre person. Ikwerre is not made up nine dialects, it's made up of four family dialects, which means, these four dialects speak similar Igbo language with little difference among themselves.

I have taken time to study about Igbo dialects. They all have family dialects, that's a group of them speak a similar dialect with little differences.

I really doubt if are an Ikwerre person or even from Rivers State because everybody from igboid ethnic group will naturally understand central Igbo.

If you know where I'm from, you wouldn't be saying this. I laugh whenever I come online and see people people say we are not Igbos... bla bla. Like seriously �

Tribe is not defined by political classification. Tribes are defined by personality, language, culture and traditions.


These are the 8 major dialects of Ikwerre.

: Apara, Ndele, Ọgbakiri, Ọbịọ, Akpor, Alụụ, Ịbaa, Elele

I don't know where you say you come from, but if you're Ikwerre you should know this.
Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Nobody: 1:20pm On Dec 09, 2019
Kingxway:
I doubt if you are an Ikwerre person. Ikwerre is not made up nine dialects, it's made up of four family dialects, which means, these four dialects speak similar Igbo language with little difference among themselves.

I have taken time to study about Igbo dialects. They all have family dialects, that's a group of them speak a similar dialect with little differences.

I really doubt if are an Ikwerre person or even from Rivers State because everybody from igboid ethnic group will naturally understand central Igbo.

If you know where I'm from, you wouldn't be saying this. I laugh whenever I come online and see people people say we are not Igbos... bla bla. Like seriously �

Tribe is not defined by political classification. Tribes are defined by personality, language, culture and traditions.


Sound Logic

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Nobody: 1:21pm On Dec 09, 2019
Kingxway:
What you people don't understand is that, as long as Ikwerres or other ethnicity retain their Igbo language and culture, this argument will never end, forever and ever. It's quite natural for Igbos to regard them as part of them because you can't really differentiate them. I mean, these people are same people in all aspects. Never seen Igbos claim tribes like Effik, Idoma, Ibibio, etc. These are close tribes but they don't speak same language. These people speak Igbo and practice Igbo culture and traditions. They are forever one. A black man may say he is not black but as long as his skin remains black, he is fooling himself. These people are Igbos and will remain Igbos forever, unless they change their language and culture
Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Nobody: 1:24pm On Dec 09, 2019
HopeAtHand:



Ikwerre isn't a dialect. Ikwerre is made up of at least 9 dialectalal areas. Ikwerre isn't Igbo, though Igbo's might understand us, we hardly understand them.

Haaaaa!!!!!!!!!! Bros slow down with the lies. Any igbo man that speaks Igbo an Ikwerre man will understand clearly. You guys are Igbos QED. stop living in denial. I was in an Ikwerre Village and there was no difference between life in an Azumini and Ikwerre. An Ikwerre man has an Obi in his house just like any other igbo man in the igbo heartland.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Nobody: 1:26pm On Dec 09, 2019
HopeAtHand:



These are the 8 major dialects of Ikwerre.

: Apara, Ndele, Ọgbakiri, Ọbịọ, Akpor, Alụụ, Ịbaa, Elele

I don't know where you say you come from, but if you're Ikwerre you should know this.

These are towns in Ikwerre land. Bros easy with the lies abeg

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by OfoIgbo: 1:54pm On Dec 09, 2019
dukeprince50:
Actually Igbo's or Igbos has said Rivers is part of Igbos, this is annoying because Rivers has many ethnicities and if you want to take Ikwerre, I won't have a problem, that is a score between you and Ikwerre to settle but most times you hear Rivers is biafra knowing that we have Kalabari, Ogoni, Obopo and other ethnic group here, you claim Rivers because there is Ikwerre, you forgot Ikwerre is just part of Rivers State and not the entire Rivers state.
So when the Ikwerre rejects Igbos, its like a melody to our hears, if you want us to stay out of the way, you should stay out of Rivers way.

Asari Dokubo is not Ikwerre or Igbo, yet he is one of the staunchest Biafrans out there. What that means is that the word Biafra, is not just owned by Igbos. Every ethnic group in the old east has a stake in it, and has a right to decide whether they will be a part of it or not.

In fact, I can go as far as saying that Asari Dokubo is the most well known Biafran from Rivers state. I cannot think of an Ikwerre or any Igbo Riverian in Rivers state, with a more prominent pro-Biafran personality.

Also try and google Kalada Jene from Bonny. This is another very prominent Biafran.
Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by dukeprince50: 2:04pm On Dec 09, 2019
OfoIgbo:


Asari Dokubo is not Ikwerre or Igbo, yet he is one of the staunchest Biafrans out there. What that means is that the word Biafra, is not just owned by Igbos. Every ethnic group in the old east has a stake in it, and has a right to decide whether they will be a part of it or not.

In fact, I can go as far as saying that Asari Dokubo is the most well known Biafran from Rivers state. I cannot think of an Ikwerre or any Igbo Riverian in Rivers state, with a more prominent pro-Biafran personality.

Also try and google Kalada Jene from Bonny. This is another very prominent Biafran.
so you feel if majority of Rivers says they are not biafrans, then an ex militant has the power to say otherwise?
Be guided, Dokubo is just a Rivers man, he has his opinion just like the rest of us but he has no power to force Biafra on us.
you said, every ethnic group has the right to say they are part of it or not", but u won't free the Ikwerre wen they say they are not part of it.
Quoting a man who called you slave to backup your claim is really not a good thing to do

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Nobody: 2:23pm On Dec 09, 2019
OfoIgbo:


Asari Dokubo is not Ikwerre or Igbo, yet he is one of the staunchest Biafrans out there. What that means is that the word Biafra, is not just owned by Igbos. Every ethnic group in the old east has a stake in it, and has a right to decide whether they will be a part of it or not.

In fact, I can go as far as saying that Asari Dokubo is the most well known Biafran from Rivers state. I cannot think of an Ikwerre or any Igbo Riverian in Rivers state, with a more prominent pro-Biafran personality.

Also try and google Kalada Jene from Bonny. This is another very prominent Biafran.



Nonsense


Asari Dokubo is not any biafran.


Rubbish

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Kescott(m): 2:29pm On Dec 09, 2019
For those of you that don't know history, the ikwerres were never Ibo, they have always been unique and traced their lineage to the great Bini kingdom. You can argue about it and choose not to believe but an Ikwerre man is very proud of his heritage and can never be a second class citizen.
https://www.edoworld.net/History_Of_Ikwerre_People_In_Nigeria.html

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Nobody: 2:32pm On Dec 09, 2019
Afamed:

Attache by force,the message is clear enough. # No to land grabbers
Yes.
No to RUGA land grabbers grin

Cc lzaa gmbuharii

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by mechanics(m): 2:40pm On Dec 09, 2019
He's a lucky man, from minister to become a governor.

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Youngmaster0(m): 2:41pm On Dec 09, 2019
jimyjames:


forget the grammar tell me where you don't understand let me explain


I was trying to tell you that the igbiod groups in Rivers might be the majority if they unit for political reasons,
but they are not united, the ikwerre igbo do things separately from the epkeye igbo ,as long as politics is concerned every tribe or ethnic group in Rivers state fight for the position of governer, the majority are the ogonis, kerebari and the ikwerre Igbo , epkeye Igbo don't unit with the ikwerres , the ekpeye Igbo has been complaining of marginalizion since after the civil war,

so wike was talking about Rivers state politics simple

You don't even know Rivers state politics.. Do you think Ikwerres can elect there's elves as governor, they are minority tribe to compare to ogoni and kalabari.. Yet the past four governors of rivers state are from Ikwerres, why? Bcus the rely on the vote on igbos for SE to keep occupying that position..

Igbo's in rivers will rather vote for ikwere man than ogoni and kalabari people..

Also note the past four governors of rivers state from Ikwerre extraction married from south eastern states, not even one married from other tribes in rivers or so called south south or niger delta

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Simplyleo: 2:45pm On Dec 09, 2019
NinjaMetahuman:
Lol

See we "ss" dey lynch we "ss/se" crooner here cheesy

Nobody wants to associate with land grabbing flat headed criminals grin
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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by OfoIgbo: 2:45pm On Dec 09, 2019
dukeprince50:
so you feel if majority of Rivers says they are not biafrans, then an ex militant has the power to say otherwise?
Be guided, Dokubo is just a Rivers man, he has his opinion just like the rest of us but he has no power to force Biafra on us.
you said, every ethnic group has the right to say they are part of it or not", but u won't free the Ikwerre wen they say they are not part of it.
Quoting a man who called you slave to backup your claim is really not a good thing to do

No referendum has ever been held in Rivers state to determine what the people want, so stop making any claims for the whole Rivers people. Rivers people have never claimed NOT to want Biafra.

Now let me make a statement of my own. IJAWS ARE IGBOS SLAVES. In spite of my statement, that doesn't rob Ijaws the right to decide whether they see themselves as Biafrans or not.
Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by Youngmaster0(m): 2:45pm On Dec 09, 2019
Kescott:
For those of you that don't know history, the ikwerres were never Ibo, they have always been unique and traced their lineage to the great Bini kingdom. You can argue about it and choose not to believe but an Ikwerre man is very proud of his heritage and can never be a second class citizen.
https://www.edoworld.net/History_Of_Ikwerre_People_In_Nigeria.html

Copied from edoworld really dude?
Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by IamMichaels: 3:12pm On Dec 09, 2019
nextdoor84:


See who is talking! Where did you see me mention that I am from Ikwerre?? Read and comprehend my write up! You guys are becoming arrogant these days. I am a proud Ekpeye man!!

By saying "Arrogant" do you mean knowing where you stand as an Ikwerre man or you mean the way your Ekpeye families were being chased by the same sons of Ekpeye land and you all ran to the "Arrogant" Ikwerre land for safety.. I think you guys are only being stewpid in cloudy arrogance and fuulish in your various judgements. ��

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Re: Wike To Ikwerres, Let No One Intimidate You, we’re Not 2nd Class Citizens(video) by sesan85(m): 3:21pm On Dec 09, 2019
Osagyefo98:
Alright.
slowpoke

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