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Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 1:33pm On Jan 09, 2020
GEJDHERO:
Wishful thinking
I thought so in bayelsa and kogi and voila
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 1:38pm On Jan 09, 2020
GEJDHERO:
The votes were cancel so whos talking about addition here
Cancelled on what basis? Did the cancellation satisfy the requirements of the electoral act? He is not claiming cancellatiin but that it was never added.inec is cornered here,uzo is very clever
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 1:38pm On Jan 09, 2020
GEJDHERO:
It was Amaechis hand work in Rivers. like Gandollars in Kano.So make your judgement.
So the killings in 2015 was also amaechi's handwork?
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by BuhariAdvocate: 1:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
Sorry I don't have answer to your unprofessional questions. Because you don't ask politely.
ogmask:
Please I need some enlightenment here.
1. What is the issue before tre SC that will possibly see the exit of Ihedioha
2. I learnt Hope Uzidinma, the mbn favoured to take over, came a distant 3rd in the election. How possible o it for him to jump over the person that came 2nd
3. The candidate of AA and APGA we also in court, what happens if they also win in their reapectiv rights?

Please educate me if you have answers to my posers.
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by essentialB(f): 1:47pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
He will be from apc.that judgment affects only aa and nwosu and doesn't concern apc
How does it not concern APC when supreme Court has said that Uche Nwosu was their candidate and candidate of AA too.
So will the law recognize two candidates for same post and same party? It doesn't add up.
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by Nobody: 1:48pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
If pdp could not prove that of osun,there can't do same in kano.you cannot win at the supreme court by alleging rigging
Let me school you;
Gandollar is now fighting on numerous front e.g SLS,kwankwasiyya,PDP,moderate Moslems,non Muslims etc
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by essentialB(f): 1:50pm On Jan 09, 2020
In the eyes of the law according to the supreme Court judgement on Uche Nwosu Hope Uzodinma contested under no party .
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by Princejydo(m): 1:52pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 1:54pm On Jan 09, 2020
otuekong1:
Let me school you;
Gandollar is now fighting on numerous front e.g SLS,kwankwasiyya,PDP,moderate Moslems,non Muslims etc
That is the problem with you.talk about his case at the supreme court,leave political fights.based on supreme court judicial precedents,he will win.am talking of akara,you are bringing akpu.when i told you buhari will get 25% in akwa ibom,you were abusing me.eyeneka,you shouldn't be arguing with me agsin
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 1:54pm On Jan 09, 2020
essentialB:
In the eyes of the law according to the supreme Court judgement on Uche Nwosu Hope Uzodinma contested under no party .
You are wrong sir,it only concerns nwosu and aa
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:02pm On Jan 09, 2020
essentialB:
How does it not concern APC when supreme Court has said that Uche Nwosu was their candidate and candidate of AA too.
So will the law recognize two candidates for same post and same party? It doesn't add up.
The problem is that most of you are not used to legal matters or supreme court rulings.a judgment cannot be binding on a party that was not sued or joined.this is a universal law.the supreme court has stressed this time and time again.that matter before the court was between aa and nwosu.any other statement concerning apc is just a corollary,it has no effect on apc.it is illegal and a wasted judgment.it is like a judge in his court saying that you are not from Nigeria when no such case is before him.it is his own opinion.

The only thing that can be gleaned from there is that nwosu was or could have been the candidate of apc rightfully but since he did not challenge the apc primaries,it is useless and since he was nominated on another party,it is also useless.some of you need to start paying fines for spreading mizleading infos
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by juman(m): 2:05pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
One if sokoto,adamawa,benue or bauchi will join imo
Rule of law should prevail.
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by GEJDHERO: 2:18pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
So the killings in 2015 was also amaechi's handwork?
hmm yes oooo
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by GEJDHERO: 2:19pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
Cancelled on what basis? Did the cancellation satisfy the requirements of the electoral act? He is not claiming cancellatiin but that it was never added.inec is cornered here,uzo is very clever
Its only a court that can order addition of those units and the way i see it its very unlikely
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by GEJDHERO: 2:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
You are not getting the gist.you pdp guys talk mainly based on emotions and beer parlor gist.i dont mean to sound insultive but you guys need to be calculative and look ahead.this case is like that of Dino melaye.anything that will make ihedioha lose or there's a rerun,he will not return as governor.the best bet is for him to win at the court.

You can see that rochas has started uniting araraume and nwosu and hope in anticipation.if you combine their votes,it will surpass that of emeka.infact,votes of nwosu and araraume alone beats that of emeka meaning that he cannot survive an alliance.it happened in oyo in 2015 where the opposition were fragmented against apc but pdp learn in 2019 and all other parties queued behind makinde and he won apc.

If there's a rerun,ihedioha will not be governor.the speaker will be acting governor.the resources of the alliance will be too much for ihedioha.infact,you cannot compare the loot garnerrd by emeka in just 9 months to rochas who was there for 8 years,he stands no chsnce.
I dont even see a rerun,i see hope being declared.
i like your wishful thinking.But so sorry to disappoint u none of the above wud come to pass
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by GEJDHERO: 2:23pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
One if sokoto,adamawa,benue or bauchi will join imo
Why not Kano?
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:25pm On Jan 09, 2020
GEJDHERO:
i like your wishful thinking.But so sorry to disappoint u none of the above wud come to pass
“John Marshall Harlan, the great dissenter was an American Supreme Court jurist during the civil liberty struggles. His constant alternative legal opinion helped in shaping civil liberty rights in America. Such will be, I hope, the helpful efforts of Justice Fredrick Oho as the alternative judgment in the Imo Governorship appeal.”
Justice Oyebisi Omoyele and three other Justices of the Appeal court on Tuesday 19th November 2019 upheld the decision of the Tribunal by declaring Emeka Ihedioha of PDP the winner of Imo state governorship election. The dissenting judgment of Justice Fredrick Oho puts to question the majority judgment.
The purpose of this article is to extrapolate the majority and minority judgments and make sense of them for the pending Supreme Court’s judgment without necessarily committing contempt of court in particular to common law sub-judice and balancing section 39 of our constitution on freedom of speech.
The other tranche of the ambition of this article is to inquire whether Emeka Ihedioha and PDP satisfy the constitutional mathematical logic and how did the Tribunal and the Appeal courts arrive at the constitutional syllogism of section 179 on one-quarter of legitimate votes in two-third of the 27 Imo local government areas?
By way of propositional calculus 18 LGAs constitutes two-third. Alternatively, how did Hope Odinaka Uzodinma of APC magically and legally construed to be the authentic winner? Can Fr. Mbaka’s mystic averments/prophesy have any place in the Temple of Justice? The above questions could form interesting topics for doctoral thesis.
However that may be, Uche Nwosu of the Action Alliance (AA), Ifeanyi Ararume of All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA) and Hope Uzodinma of All Progressives Congress (APC) argued severally and individually that Emeka Ihedioha did not satisfy the requirements of section 179 of our Constitution and for this reason prayed the court to no avail, to set aside the decision of the Tribunal in the 9th March 2019 governor’s election.
In addition, Hope Uzodinma prayed the court to admit in evidence 388 excluded polling units’ results which if aggregated he should be declared the winner. He corroborated this claim with subpoenaed evidence of DCP Rabiu Hussaini (PW54) in union with forms EC8A/EC8B. Not only that Hope Uzodinma’s argument goes to the root of the determination, it will be material and substantial in the Supreme Court’s decision.
The ontological essence of the dissenting judgment in this election petition is in shaping our election jurisprudence and further midwife the Supreme Court to have an alternative but imaginative legal view in formulating her would be judgment.
Justice Fredrick Oho is like a legal rebel and a non compromising jurist as the alter ego of John Marshall Harlan. A dissenter affects future judgments in cases similar to the matter present at hand and in the hope that, through his judgment law makers may amend the perceived issues, the way the constitution is couched and interpreted. The eloquent dissent by the amiable Justice on the travesty of Imo State Governorship’s election petition decision cannot be ignored in a hurry.
The reasoning in a dissenting opinion can over time, influence and persuade future decisions. It can sometimes be cited as a persuasive authority in subsequent cases. The majority judgment may concur but they have separate and individualized legal reasoning for their judgments. These autonomous ratio decidendi will assist the Supreme Court in reaching a healthy decision.
The dissenter may disagree with the majority judgment for any number of reasons; for instance, different interpretation of the existing case law, the application of different principles, or a different interpretation of the facts.
Dissenting legal opinion helps in understanding discussions between the judges and what was canvassed by the parties in the suit. In another development, a Justice may concur or agree with the majority opinion with different legal reasons. Concurring opinion can sometimes be seen as a dissenter because of its distinguishable ratios.
Dissenting and majority judgments will form the legal cynosure in the Supreme Court’s decision as to who will finally pontificate from Douglas House. Often course, Douglas House is different from Douglas road.
Justice can be done if and only if the Supreme Court disassociate herself from the straw man fallacy as seen in the Appeal Court’s majority judgment when it maintained a volte-face in PW54 examination. I will expect the Supreme Court will exorcise herself from the marauding spirits as seen in Atiku vs. Buhari petition.
Law practitioners are patiently waiting for a new precedence in election petition. Certainly there will be one by the end of January 2020. I envisage the Apex court may adopt a legal hermeneutical decoy in rendering of her judgment.
For the development of the Nigerian legal system, it will be a lofty idea if the Supreme Court appears forthright in her innovative or maverick delivery of the much awaited judgment.
It is also envisaged that the Apex court will be persuaded to give judgment in line with the appellants and respondents’ pleadings/ submissions without adopting a volte-face. If this happens then justice will be seen to have been dispensed and the Supreme Court would have consummated Gulak’s apotheosis.
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Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:28pm On Jan 09, 2020
GEJDHERO:
Its only a court that can order addition of those units and the way i see it its very unlikely
It is very likely since inec cancelled it illegally.once election results have been declared at the polling units,it stands.it enjoys presumptive regularity except set aside by a court.the only way the court can cancel it is if there's over voting or massive violence and there was none in imo.in osun,the courts affirmed this decision.even in akwa ibom,akpabio got a rerun based on this formula.
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
GEJDHERO:
hmm yes oooo
This shows that am wasting my time with you.you are not reasonable or sensible,just another apc hater.nothing can ever convince you when you are against something even if wrong.this is a destructive mindset,let to concede to robust arguments
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:32pm On Jan 09, 2020
GEJDHERO:
Why not Kano?
I would have replied but am wasting my time on you.ill from now ignore you,why give money to masquerades
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:33pm On Jan 09, 2020
juman:
Rule of law should prevail.
It will starting from imo.uzodinma is indeed very intelligent,no wonder he always best rochas in orlu zone
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
That is the problem with you.talk about his case at the supreme court,leave political fights.based on supreme court judicial precedents,he will win.am talking of akara,you are bringing akpu.when i told you buhari will get 25% in akwa ibom,you were abusing me.eyeneka,you shouldn't be arguing with me agsin
But you were bragging the ONE and Akpabio will win respectively
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by Samfloxin(m): 2:35pm On Jan 09, 2020
Ray97:
God almighty. Pls let ortom be defeated in the Supreme Court.... Suffering in benue is too much...
...and you think that the APC man will perform miracle for you...all politicians are the same,what differentiate them is party logo
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:36pm On Jan 09, 2020
otuekong1:
But you were bragging the ONE and Akpabio will win respectively
I always have main and subsidiary arguments.my main argument was buhari getting 25%.my major concern is always buhari.any other thing is jara.akpabio prevail at the courts in the end anyway.
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by garfield1: 2:40pm On Jan 09, 2020
Samfloxin:
...and you think that the APC man will perform miracle for you...all politicians are the same,what differentiate them is party logo
Its like saying all humans are same,this is false.or are you telling me that all governors are failures? Certainly no.look at their antecedents,ortom has always performed poorly in all his roles before being a governor tgerefors his woeful feats should not be surprising while Emma jime the apc candidate is a performer tgereforme he may do better than ortom.
Anyway,its a waste because ortom will almost certainly win at the apex court but if possible its better to do away with ortom and try something new than to reinforce failure
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by asha80(m): 2:44pm On Jan 09, 2020
essentialB:
How does it not concern APC when supreme Court has said that Uche Nwosu was their candidate and candidate of AA too.
So will the law recognize two candidates for same post and same party? It doesn't add up.
I was wondering what he was talking about..supreme court ruled that uche nwosu was the real candidate of apc in that election and hence since he also contested under aa was ruled out of the election proper..however it still meant that APC candidate was uche nwosu..so how again is uzodinma still in contention?I would like to see the verdict somersault supreme court would rule here now to prove that uzodinma not nwosu again was there candidate let alone talking about number of votes he garnered
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by Nobody: 2:47pm On Jan 09, 2020
seunmsg:
I don’t know about Ihedioha but I can tell you authoritatively that Ganduje is going nowhere. He won a free and fair election. The Supreme Court has in the past upheld the outcome of supplementary election and the case of Kano won’t be different.
You lie! That election wasn't free and fair in any way. Explain in details how a deficit of 200k votes was covered up in favour of the APC. So you want to tell us that all the voters in the affected areas voted for APC?
Pls tell us something else. Let's call a spade a spade
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jan 09, 2020
garfield1:
I always have main and subsidiary arguments.my main argument was buhari getting 25%.my major concern is always buhari.any other thing is jara.akpabio prevail at the courts in the end anyway.
Mr man,but you were over confident,why the change of tune
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by Nobody: 3:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
Ray97:
God almighty. Pls let ortom be defeated in the Supreme Court.... Suffering in benue is too much...
He will use benue money to settle the judge
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by tityboi: 3:33pm On Jan 09, 2020
Hmmm
Re: Fate Of 7 Governors Uncertain by MUHDAI(m): 3:34pm On Jan 09, 2020
seunmsg:
I don’t know about Ihedioha but I can tell you authoritatively that Ganduje is going nowhere. He won a free and fair election. The Supreme Court has in the past upheld the outcome of supplementary election and the case of Kano won’t be different.
Ganduje won free and fair? You don't know the meaning of what you wrote
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