₦airaland Forum

BiafraforTrump:
Shut up why do you Northerners and Yorubas want to go to USA after so much open hate speech on USA and Trump??

There is still Saudi Arabia and Dubai for you Muslims for Christ sake..

anonimi:
You don't know what you are talking about.
You are obviously carried away by the fallacy of Nigeria's/Africa's importance to the US.
Enjoy your daydreaming.


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aremuforlife:
The pressure is on them, even from American citizens. They all surprised, why include Nigerian on visa restriction.

BiafraforTrump:
Shut up why do you Northerners and Yorubas want to go to USA after so much open hate speech on USA and Trump??

There is still Saudi Arabia and Dubai for you Muslims for Christ sake..

kellight:
As long as the ban affects bubu its okey by me but if it doesn't, fvck it

kiyosaki1:
During a meeting with Minister of Foreign Affairs, Geoffrey Onyeama, Pompeo said that the restrictions were imposed on Nigeria and five other countries because the United States Government wanted them to do more to ascertain the information on travellers.



http://saharareporters.com/2020/02/04/visa-ban-us-secretary-state-pompeo-express-hope-reversal-nigeria

Badgers14:
Nonsense.. they just phoned up a reason to cover up... Trump is just hating on Nigeria..

Nigerians are the most successful immigrants in the U.S, they are the most educated immigrants in the U.S and they send more "LEGAL immigrants " to the U.S every year than any order country.

The excuse of the ban on immigrant visa is nonsense, recall he didn't ban non immigrant visa.. so the same country that "supposedly " have all these security challenges bla bla can come and visit the U.S (with their security challenges) but he wants to ban them from coming in as a permanent resident

Trump is just hating

WebSurfer:
I keep wondering what is in that forsaken USA except the slave jobs and hustles Nigerians can’t do without

Damn man go to instagram or facebook and see how they complain like Nigerians on social media.

Or at least haven’t you met friends from there ?

Fu..ck man this people have a minimum wage of 7.25$ / hour for a decade now

WebSurfer:
I keep wondering what is in that forsaken USA except the slave jobs and hustles Nigerians can’t do without

Damn man go to instagram or facebook and see how they complain like Nigerians on social media.

Or at least haven’t you met friends from there ?

Fu..ck man this people have a minimum wage of 7.25$ / hour for a decade now

good4all40:
What most people don't understand is that the ban is outright ban, if not while targeting the immigrant visas and leaving non immigrant visas, it doesn't make any sense that you still allow non immigrant visas for the same people you think they pose security threat to your country while banning the immigrant visas for them. Since Trump became president, no single Nigerian has carry out any terrorist act in US. I think non immigrant visas pose more threat to immigrant visas, because little or no background check is required for that to be approved, as for immigrant visas, all applicants will go through background checks and rigorous screening before approval.


The only reason Trump allows non immigrant visas is that they can continue to refuse as many people as they want without any appeal, while pocketing the visas fees for the growth of their Economy.


Anyone that can reason perfectly will understand this without much stress but l wish they remove the ban soonest.

aremuforlife:
The pressure is on them, even from American citizens. They all surprised, why include Nigerian on visa restriction.

WebSurfer:
I keep wondering what is in that forsaken USA except the slave jobs and hustles Nigerians can’t do without

Damn man go to instagram or facebook and see how they complain like Nigerians on social media.

Or at least haven’t you met friends from there ?

Fu..ck man this people have a minimum wage of 7.25$ / hour for a decade now

WebSurfer:
I keep wondering what is in that forsaken USA except the slave jobs and hustles Nigerians can’t do without

Damn man go to instagram or facebook and see how they complain like Nigerians on social media.

Or at least haven’t you met friends from there ?

Fu..ck man this people have a minimum wage of 7.25$ / hour for a decade now

post=86390037:
The real reason US suspends Immigrant travel Visas on Nigerians.
It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

Nice one

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years, if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it. Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas, these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby. It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply. However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records. Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and came back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?

If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

Agricaddict:
An Igbo man, no sabi reason, why are you people like that

post=86390037:
The real reason US suspends Immigrant travel Visas on Nigerians.
It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years, if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it. Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas, these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby. It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply. However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records. Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and came back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?

If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

post=86390037:
The real reason US suspends Immigrant travel Visas on Nigerians.
It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years, if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it. Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas, these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby. It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply. However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records. Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and came back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?

If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

Correcto:
Did you just say Yoruba?

crownedrookie:
They are also the the most criminal immigrants in the US.. You seem to have forgotten that or you left it out deliberately? Don't be in a hurry to forget the 70+ Nigerian fraudsters rounded up in USA late last year

BiafraforTrump:
Shut up why do you Northerners and Yorubas want to go to USA after so much open hate speech on USA and Trump??

There is still Saudi Arabia and Dubai for you Muslims for Christ sake..

gabicon:
It all about security, our government is managing the security challenge with brut force when they are supposed to be working on intelligence. An example of this is the Samuel/Mohammed who tried to bomb winners chapel in Kaduna, how can we have citizens that we don't know who they are? The US understands the danger this poses.

Solution, sack the National Identity Management Commission chairman, talk to the banks and telecommunications industry, they have experience in registering people and issuing legal tenders (ATM), we need to know who is who.

We can confirm the identity of 70% of our population in a year, if we are serious.

Badgers14:
Rubbish, make Hatred no kee you

Out of millions of Nigerians residing legally in the U.S rounding up 70 makes Nigerians the most criminal immigrant??

Here is the thing, understanding that there are some bad apples, some Nigerians that engage in illegal activities in the U.S but in as much as people like you might hate to admit this, Nigerians are no where near the most criminal immigrant groups in the U.S... I repeat, no where near the top 5 countries..

Again, my point is not to encourage criminal activity but just to point out that your point of view is clouded with I'll preconceived notions..

Nigerians are still learners.. believe it or not in terms of crime in the U.S... there are way more Nigerians engaged in legitimate business, legal activity than there are engaged in illegal activity.. I would say a ratio of 98% legitimate and 2% or less engaging in illegal activities in the U.S.

believe it or not in terms of crime in the U.S... there are way more Nigerians engaged in legitimate business, legal activity than there are engaged in illegal activity.. I would say a ratio of 98% legitimate and 2% or less engaging in illegal activities in the U.S.

Ogonimilitant:
Please America should not lift any ban. Saudi Arabia is there for the northerners to go.

BiafraforTrump:
No I should have said Urhobo instead. Idiots