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post=86390037:
The real reason US suspends Immigrant travel Visas on Nigerians.
It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years, if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it. Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas, these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby. It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply. However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records. Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and came back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?

If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

Shebi na cos u no dey naija u dey talk all these..u wan to all say u no forget anything while u travelled,abi fake bank statement

Revolva:
You are funny what do u mean so USA should throw 100 use or hour abi

Usa is a dream country to go and chase dreams and make it and you are here .

As if they give u visa you won't go
See you don't know why it's important to have a USA citizen ship
Go ask major industrialist like the Rupert Murdoch media giant tycoon and other tech industrialist wanting to break into d usa market you see the reason the country have the most billionaire on Earth

Abeg America is d place to be and also Canada

Oga if you give me usa visa I won’t go.
I have never applied for one before

crownedrookie:
I would like you to address these points
1) Since you so gallantly and precisely excluded Nigeria from the top 5 most criminal country I would like to to list this your fictional top 5. You obviously have done some research on it.
You're obviously a true Nigerian, facts stare you in your face, you wave them away with sentiment. List the top 5 most criminal immigrant countries in USA.
2) Out of the millions of Vietnamese, Thai, Mexicans etc other legal nationals living in the country from which other group did they round up 70 criminals? Any one? It doesn't say something to you?
My friend stop fooling yourself and blinding yourself with sentiments. Call a spade a spade!

Don't let your personal bias cloud your judgement..

Take an objective approach and you will understand the facts..

Correcto:
Backed by our comment you came from poorly trained generation of fools. Bastard !!!!

Like your father and the entire yeribanza morons.

mvem:
Northerners don't usually queue up for American Visa. There is no sense in what you said here. It is mostly southerners that usually queue up for American Visa

And Yorubas?
.

Your father and his entire yeribanza morons.[/quote]

BiafraforTrump:
And Yorubas?
.

Are Yorubas not Southerners

The love I have for this man eh (Mike Pompeo)......no be here o. I believe him, the restriction would be lifted as long as we do the right thing as a country.

mvem:
Are Yorubas not Southerners

My main focus is on Northerners and their slaves the Yorubas.

BiafraforTrump:
My main focus is on Northerners and their slaves the Yorubas.

Oya go and start your tribal war on the forum

Badgers14:
Don't let your personal bias cloud your judgement..

Take an objective approach and you will understand the facts..

Keep your skewered facts away from me. Face reality

BiafraforTrump:
No I should have said Urhobo instead. Idiots

Just look at that stupid, deluded Third world country monkey on twitter talking trash to the leader of the world. If dem send three drones to him village everywhere go scatter. Mtcheeeeew

post=86390037:
The real reason US suspends Immigrant travel Visas on Nigerians.
It has little or nothing to do with Boko Haram,
has nothing to do with Buhari,
has nothing to do with arrest and detention of journalist, has nothing to do with Nigeria’s ban on gays and lesbian, but has everything to do with absence of a workable system in our identification and verification processes.

The main reason Nigeria is suspended from Immigrant visas category is because Nigeria does not have a credible background investigation system that groups like Interpol can rely on to vert and certify originality.

What that means is that if someone commits a crime in lagos and relocates to Kano, there’s no system that can be used to track crimes and people across state lines.

Virtually all African countries have such systems even Ghana has it, Cameroun everyone has original birth certificates but nigeria prefers to have multiple identity cards not because they are interested in monitoring and tracking people but because they want to make money. Our country is a transaction society, you can buy anything even the human conscience.

Most responsible modern states in the world have tracking systems, but nigeria does not.
A typical example, if you are about 40 years, if you go to your primary school to get your records they don’t have it. Principals and headmasters do not have computers in the 21st century.

Now only states that are considered rogue nations or failed states that do not have workable systems.
Most nations in this category are nations at war.
Nigeria is not at war but the irresponsible nature of our government from the beginning till now makes Nigeria a war zone.

Now, back to US suspension, let us make it clear that only Immigrants visas are affected.
Non immigrant visas are not affected.
An immigrant visas is a type of visa that allows you to stay, work or even become a US citizen after you travel.

This category involves the type of visa you get when you marry an American citizen and have to relocate or the type of visas given to parents when their American citizens file for them or the visa you get through lottery.

Another category of visa affected is birth visas, these are medical tourism visas to come to America and have a baby. It is those categories of visas that are affected. Some waivers do apply. However, non immigrant visas like visitors or business visas are not affected, however going forward it will be difficult to get

What America is saying is that we cannot continue to give immigrant visas to your people if our investigators have no tools to work with to verify the true identity of your immigrant populations.

Example, someone who wins lottery or marries a US citizen, the investigators will want to check him up to primary school, but we have no records. Our government should be ashamed that we do not have a reliable working system to track Nigerians instead of deceiving the people to assume it is unfair what US has done.

All our previous and present government should be ashamed that today we are grouped with countries like Eritrea and Sudan.
A sensible country, what they should be doing now is to put such a system in place.
Last year, two of our American friends visited Nigeria and came back with Nigerian international passports.
That can never happen in Ghana or even Liberia.
But with money you can buy a man's conscience in Nigeria.

With as little as three to five hundred dollars people are ready to subvert the law and do the unthinkable.
With just Ten thousand Naira anyone can get local governments origin letters, worst still, today traders who never stepped their legs in universities are given degrees and people even serve youth service with fake results.
If you are America will you continue to give immigrant visas to a country you cannot verify a simple certificate?

If you are America will you continue to give citizenship to immigrants whose entire documents for relocation to your country may have been forged?

We forge ID cards, we forge bank statements to get visas, we forge birth certificates, we forge marriage certificates, we forge election results, what is it that we do not forge?

We should not blame the US, the truth is we have failed as a nation.
May God help our darling country.
God bless Nigeria.

N10,000 Ke? Dem gba you very well. When I went to passport office to collect passport for my wife last year, local governments origin letter, affidavit for age declaration, online registration, registration and all other required documents was about N10,000, and I got all within one hour.

Thanks for taking your time to explain the issue at hand in detail. Our brothers from the east who have a no love lost relationship with Buhari say it's because of fulani herdsmen, boko haram (as if fulani herdsmen or boko haram will ever apply for an immigrant visa), insecurity, corruption and Buhari that made the US to ban Nigeria.
The US don't give a shit about these issues, what the US want is information on people entering America for internal security reasons and Nigerian government don't have information on its self not to talk of its citizens.

crownedrookie:
Keep your skewered facts away from me. Face reality

To each his own...

Badgers14:
To each his own...

Nope. Truth is singular. Lies are diverse

WebSurfer:
Oga if you give me usa visa I won’t go.
I have never applied for one before

Liar the most blessed nation and opportuned nation and you won't go even for a visit

Nigga see the sky skysapers of NYC or die

You don't know anything about America

You are just a sadist toward the greatest
nation on Earth

Na to carry this shit hole nation for head u sabi

People r trying to get American citizenship to make their future better you are here condeming d nation

Revolva:
Liar the most blessed nation and opportuned nation and you won't go even for a visit

Nigga see the sky skysapers of NYC or die

You don't know anything about America

You are just a sadist toward the greatest
nation on Earth

Na to carry this shit hole nation for head u sabi

People r trying to get American citizenship to make their future better you are here condeming d nation

If you term the US the most blessed nation and opportuned nation, what will you call Norway, Sweden, Finland, Kuwait and even Australia. These countries have a higher standard of living than the US. You talk as if there are no poor people the in the US. The US has the highest number of poor people among the industrialised nation. The income inequality in the US is the worse in the world.

No everybody like the US. I for one I'm not crazy about the US, and I have been to the US.

The US is 70% propaganda and 30% reality.

wirinet:
If you term the US the most blessed nation and opportuned nation, what will you call Norway, Sweden, Finland, Kuwait and even Australia. These countries have a higher standard of living than the US. You talk as if there are no poor people the in the US. The US has the highest number of poor people among the industrialised nation. The income inequality in the US is the worse in the world.

No everybody like the US. I for one I'm not crazy about the US, and I have been to the US.

The US is 70% propaganda and 30% reality.

True bro but i still like US ok....Norway, Sweden, Finland, Kuwait and even Australia. these nation ask yourself how many are they in population

Revolva:
Liar the most blessed nation and opportuned nation and you won't go even for a visit

Nigga see the sky skysapers of NYC or die

You don't know anything about America

You are just a sadist toward the greatest
nation on Earth

Na to carry this shit hole nation for head u sabi

People r trying to get American citizenship to make their future better you are here condeming d nation

Mr ignoramus. Go to Japan

Besides that. Not everybody is sad like you.
There are people living like kings in Nigeria

This Trump anti immigration policy has made lots of folks loathe America.

Nigeria would have been truly the best if our leaders serve selflessly. How many percentage of Nigerian population live like a king. Infinitesimal of course! In which large chunk of them amass the wealth illegally.

So, I understand the hate on America, but totally against it.

WebSurfer:
Mr ignoramus. Go to Japan

Besides that. Not everybody is sad like you.
There are people living like kings in Nigeria

so what does Japanese cities have that american cities dont have...is it not the same japan America gave technology and assistance...to build back their country after hiroshima abeg Yes japan is cool