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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:16pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
What do you mean they are not discrediting Liverpool? They have and are still doing so

I'm saying whatever strength the top clubs might have no other team would have been able to cope with this form Liverpool is on. I want you to show me any other time in League history a team has lost 1 match in 64 attempts

If the league was not weak when Pep got 100 pts then it is not weak now that English teams are getting to the Finals of major European competitions.

Liverpool will top any league in Europe as we speak
Why do you keep referencing 64matches? Last season is done and dusted their point tally for last season didn't win them the title so it's seems you are using it to clutch at straws in a bid to hype them.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:16pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
If they play to their potentials and recruit wisely then conventional wisdom dictates that they should. I mean we have to go back to 2013 for the last time a team not named Barca or Madrid won the league

But Barcelona Milan and Madrid even at the peak of their powers never went 25-1-0 in any season in the past 30yrs despite them being the 3 most dominant teams of the last 3 decades

Its the league that has the fabled financial parity that is having a 25-1-0 run

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:17pm On Feb 18, 2020
Swissh:


This was you brimming with confidence. Don't give me that bullshit.
Didnt you see WE CAN in my statement. Stop been acting smart by a half.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:17pm On Feb 18, 2020
lordfalcao:
this things can happen in a season and the next season something worst will happen
Ehn let's wait till then. Why are we proactively belittling and trivializing their achievements thus far
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:18pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
I would agree that the league was weak if all their representatives in Europe weren't still in their respective competitions
Performance in Europe does not reflect your league ability.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:18pm On Feb 18, 2020
Swissh:

Who is 2nd currently in seria a? Is Conte doing anything special this season? If Lazio finishes above inter then Conte has failed this season.
Yes he is doing something special when you check inter previous seasons.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:20pm On Feb 18, 2020
Godx:

Why do you keep referencing 64matches? Last season is done and dusted their point tally for last season didn't win them the title so it's seems you are using it to clutch at straws in a bid to hype them.
I'm showing you that their dominance did not start this year. They have been building towards this and nothing would have stopped them. So it is a very lazy argument on your part to not look at this team holistically and understand that what we are seeing now was inevitable once this team hit its peak.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:20pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
Good. So how does this diminish what Liverpool is doing??

2017/2018 - CL Finalist (Lost because of a calamitous goaliemepon)

2018/2019 - CL winner, Finished with 3rd highest point total in league history. They would have won the league every other year but 2018 and 2019

2019/2020 - 25 wins from 26 games. Leading the league with record margin

I am seeing progression from one team regardless of external circumstances.
Using point tally to say a team in 2019 would have won the title in 2002 is Soo gringy. That's not how it works.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:21pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
What do you mean they are not discrediting Liverpool? They have and are still doing so

I'm saying whatever strength the top clubs might have no other team would have been able to cope with this form Liverpool is on. I want you to show me any other time in League history a team has lost 1 match in 64 attempts

If the league was not weak when Pep got 100 pts then it is not weak now that English teams are getting to the Finals of major European competitions.

Liverpool will top any league in Europe as we speak
if other teams are in good form Liverpool will surely have seen a loose from at least one top team club.

The other top club who would have made the league strong are not doing so. Its not that they didn’t strengthen, they don’t know what they are doing at the moment
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:22pm On Feb 18, 2020
Godx:

Performance in Europe does not reflect your league ability.
No it rubbishes the argument that the EPL could be called a farmer's league and it's erroneous to compare their circumstances to that of say a PSG. The degree of difficulty is not comparable
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:22pm On Feb 18, 2020
Godx:

Why do you keep referencing 64matches? Last season is done and dusted their point tally for last season didn't win them the title so it's seems you are using it to clutch at straws in a bid to hype them.
like Liverpool has played 64 matches already, I tire
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 6:24pm On Feb 18, 2020
Liverpool wont win the league if just one of Man city, Man utd or Chelsea are in great form like them..............

Liverpool crack under pressure,...Historically backed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:24pm On Feb 18, 2020
lordfalcao:
if other teams are in good form Liverpool will surely have seen a loose from at least one top team club.

The other top club who would have made the league strong are not doing so. Its not that they didn’t strengthen, they don’t know what they are doing at the moment
How many did they lose last season??

The other top clubs would not have been able to keep up. Show me a year any team won 25 and drew just 1 match.

Last season it took City winning 18 games in a row to finish ahead of Liverpool by 1 point. The difference is Liverpool didn't choke this year
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:24pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
I'm showing you that their dominance did not start this year. They have been building towards this and nothing would have stopped them. So it is a very lazy argument on your part to not look at this team holistically and understand that what we are seeing now was inevitable once this team hit its peak.

And that's why I said they are a very good team who have been helped by the weakness of the other teams in the league. Do you think if the rest top teams in the league were up to the challenge they would be this dominant in terms of wins they have accumulated up till now?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:25pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
Ehn let's wait till then. Why are we proactively belittling and trivializing their achievements thus far
I said the weakness of the other teams made the tittle race bit easy. Last season we saw two clubs who know what they were doing slug it out. We all so how the race was. That’s how a league should be
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:25pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
How many did they lose last season??

The other top clubs would not have been able to keep up. Show me a year any team won 25 and drew just 1 match.

Last season it took City winning 18 games in a row to finish ahead of Liverpool by 1 point. The difference is Liverpool didn't choke this year

Has City kept that standard of 18 wins in a row this year?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:26pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
How many did they lose last season??

The other top clubs would not have been able to keep up. Show me a year any team won 25 and drew just 1 match.

Last season it took City winning 18 games in a row to finish ahead of Liverpool by 1 point. The difference is Liverpool didn't choke this year
no the difference is that man city don’t know what they are doing this season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:26pm On Feb 18, 2020
raumdeuter:


In that same time, since January 2019 in europe they have lost twice to Barca and Napoli playing 13 games

So don't you think the 1 loss in 64 games is due to weaker opponents?

2009/2010 Barca lost twice, one at home to fvcking Rubin Kazan in Ucl. In la liga, they lost just once away in 38 matches. Maybe that was due to weaker opponents in laliga too.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:27pm On Feb 18, 2020
raumdeuter:


But Barcelona Milan and Madrid even at the peak of their powers never went 25-1-0 in any season in the past 30yrs despite them being the 3 most dominant teams of the last 3 decades

Its the league that has the fabled financial parity that is having a 25-1-0 run
They failed to reach that feat for reasons we will never know. However what I know is if Liverpool win the CL this year again then nobody can tell me they don't belong to that conversation of the all-time greats. Because at that point you will have to explain your criteria and why Liverpool don't belong there

It's not fabled. Which league can a club play £40m for goddamn Joelinton and £60m for Ndombele. This is not La Liga where Barcelona can pluck Leganes best player for €20m midway into the season. Man City cannot do that even for Teemu Pukki. They will still pay almost £50m
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:28pm On Feb 18, 2020
lordfalcao:
no the difference is that man city don’t know what they are doing this season
Iyen o kan aye. Liverpool didn't know what they were doing last season too else they would have won back to back

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:30pm On Feb 18, 2020
Godx:

Using point tally to say a team in 2019 would have won the title in 2002 is Soo gringy. That's not how it works.
What are you chatting about. Show me any other year aside 2018 and 2019 that Liverpool with their points tally don't win the league?

I'm showing you how high the bar was set you are speaking grammar
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:30pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
No it rubbishes the argument that the EPL could be called a farmer's league and it's erroneous to compare their circumstances to that of say a PSG. The degree of difficulty is not comparable
It's very reasonable to compare them. La Liga is still deemed uncompetitive and an easy league despite most of their teams dominating Europe in recent times. La liga team performance in Europe have not stopped epl fan boys from ridiculing the league. So epl team performance in Europe this past 2 seasons has not reflect the actual quality of the league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:30pm On Feb 18, 2020
airmark:


2009/2010 Barca lost twice, one at home to fvcking Rubin Kazan in Ucl. In la liga, they only lost twice in 76 games and they were away matches. Maybe that was due to weaker opponents in laliga too.

Which 76 games in La liga did Barcelona lose twice?

2008/09 Barcelona played 38 lost 5 games
2009/10 played 38 Lost 1 game
2010/11 played 38 Lost 2 games

Provide us your evidence

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:31pm On Feb 18, 2020
raumdeuter:


Has City kept that standard of 18 wins in a row this year?
Good. They couldn't keep up. Liverpool showed it was no fluke and went one step better. Why are they being discredited for it instead of praised?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:32pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
How many did they lose last season??

The other top clubs would not have been able to keep up. Show me a year any team won 25 and drew just 1 match.

Last season it took City winning 18 games in a row to finish ahead of Liverpool by 1 point. The difference is Liverpool didn't choke this year
Liverpool would not have won 25matches and drawn 1 if the rest teams were up to the task. It's as simple as that. They will be no need to keep up when Liverpool are losing and drawing matches against the other teams.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:32pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
Good. They couldn't keep up. Liverpool showed it was no fluke and went one step better. Why are they being discredited for it instead of praised?

That shows the rivals standards dropped
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:34pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
They failed to reach that feat for reasons we will never know. However what I know is if Liverpool win the CL this year again then nobody can tell me they don't belong to that conversation of the all-time greats. Because at that point you will have to explain your criteria and why Liverpool don't belong there

It's not fabled. Which league can a club play £40m for goddamn Joelinton and £60m for Ndombele. This is not La Liga where Barcelona can pluck Leganes best player for €20m midway into the season. Man City cannot do that even for Teemu Pukki. They will still pay almost £50m

They simply failed to make that feat because they had quality opposition which Liverpool is lacking

This same Liverpool that lost 1 in 64 games has lost 2 times in 13 CL games in the same time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:34pm On Feb 18, 2020
lordfalcao:
I said the weakness of the other teams made the tittle race bit easy. Last season we saw two clubs who know what they were doing slug it out. We all so how the race was. That’s how a league should be
That is not how it works. Nobody was parroting this opinion when Pep won the league at a canter. The onus is on Liverpool to win as many games as they can. If the other teams don't keep up despite equal resources then Liverpool's achievements should not be diminished on the back of that.

When Pep's Barca was dominating Europe nobody said Europe was weak. When Wenger went unbeaten nobody said EPL was weak
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:34pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
Iyen o kan aye. Liverpool didn't know what they were doing last season too else they would have won back to back
liverpool knew what they were doing. Another team that knows what they where doing overtook them by a marginal gap
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:36pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
That is not how it works. Nobody was parroting this opinion when Pep won the league at a canter. The onus is on Liverpool to win as many games as they can. If the other teams don't keep up despite equal resources then Liverpool's achievements should not be diminished on the back of that.

When Pep's Barca was dominating Europe nobody said Europe was weak. When Wenger went unbeaten nobody said EPL was weak

Wenger did not go 25-1-0 Infact no one in Europe has done it before
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:37pm On Feb 18, 2020
A40:
What are you chatting about. Show me any other year aside 2018 and 2019 that Liverpool with their points tally don't win the league?

I'm showing you how high the bar was set you are speaking grammar
Using point tally argument doesn't work. Because I reached 90points in 2017 doesn't mean I will achieve the same thing in 2003. Technically speaking you are correct their point tally was the 2nd highest but saying they would have won the league apart from 2 seasons is you hyping them as usual.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:37pm On Feb 18, 2020
raumdeuter:


Which 76 games in La liga did Barcelona lose twice?

2008/09 Barcelona played 38 lost 5 games
2009/10 played 38 Lost 1 game
2010/11 played 38 Lost 2 games

Provide us your evidence

I thought i edited it.

They lost once in 2009/2010 in 38 laliga matches and it was an away match. But lost twice in Ucl, one at home to fvcking Rubin Kazan.

Can we say laliga was weak that season?

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