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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:50pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:There is no season Liverpool will not win the league unchallenged based on this form. Are they playing amateurs? Was Pep playing amateurs when they won the league with 19pts? When Pep sealed the title at the earliest time in League history nobody said the league was not competitive. When Mourinho did it in 05 conceding just 15 goals and finishing almost 15 points ahead nobody said the league was uncompetitive UCL is tougher than EPL. We all know this. Even Pep can vouch |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:52pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:not only this season. It has been like that for some time now. Man city also benefitted from it. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:52pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
A40:When Bayern and Dortmund played the CL final, did that stop the cries of farmers league? So why stop now? when the gap between 1st and 2nd in the same league is 25 Liverpool's haul dwarfs that of Pep even in his record season. Chelsea and Spurs will still be 25 points behind Liverpool being 7points ahead of rival is different from being 25 points ahead. This time last seaosn Liverpool was 3 points ahead and no one called it a farmers league because there was a race That is the point. City's best season in their league would still leave them 7 points behind Liverpool. Their best performance of all time ohh. 7 points gap is not 25points gap. 7 points still suggest that they are facing a challenge locally, unlike now where Liverpool can lose the next 8 games and still be topping the league If their rivals are not having historic lows we might agree, but all 5 teams are all having their worst seasons in recent years 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:53pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
A40: Winning the league is different from winning with 25points winning a 100m photo finish is different from winning by 25yards Last season City won the league but there was a challenge all through. At this point even in the 100points season, City was leading by 13points Liverpool is about double that |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by adisaaowala: 5:02pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter: As at May last year, you were like..... raumdeuter: Ramuzaki....shame on you!! 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:03pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
patrickmuf:are you saying that if they lose the tie, that they will become less a great team? For me, No. They are a great team, but their position in the league is helped by the weakness of the league. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 5:04pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:You can't call a league a farmer's league if it's teams are doing well in Europe. Points gap is points gap. We have seen Milan win the CL despite being 25 points behind their league winner. Should we call CL farmer's league? raumdeuter:That is hypothetically speaking. You're assuming City would match their highest points haul ever just for there to be a semblance of a race Champions League is the determinant of whether a league is farmer's league or not. Portuguese and Turkish league for example is a farmer's league no matter how tight the title race is raumdeuter:Hypothetically. You are hypothetically assuming City is at its best form. If City at its best form are still some distance behind Liverpool then what does it matter if all the teams were not having their best seasons. Like the Rock says. It doesn't matter what season City, Spurs or Chelsea have. They would still be behind and unable to challenge for the title |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:04pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:05pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
adisaaowala: This year the league has now fallen to a new low of weakness never seen before. Imagine 25 wins in 26 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:09pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
A40: The same metric they used to judge other leagues is what we are using to judge them. Bayern and Dortmund made the CL finals, they called it a weak league because of the points gap. Now why shouldnt we do the same for EPL? That is hypothetically speaking. You're assuming City would match their highest points haul ever just for there to be a semblance of a race I am talking about the points reality. The form of the league rivals Champions League is the determinant of whether a league is farmer's league or not. Portuguese and Turkish league for example is a farmer's league no matter how tight the title race isGermany Italy and even Spain were called farmers league by the same EPL fans fighting tooth and nail when we call the EPL a farmers league even when those leagues were doing well in the CL Hypothetically. You are hypothetically assuming City is at its best form. A league with a a 25 points gap can only be a farmers league following the EPL fans logic. How can a league be won by December |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 5:12pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:It wasn't photo finish in 2018 was it? The reason it is double that is because this Liverpool would have been 7 points ahead of that City as well |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 5:13pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
patrickmuf:Seriously though, VAR in England is different from the rest of the leagues. We know how it favours especially livarpool and Man Utd |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:16pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
patrickmuf:that is why I am looking at him with one eye in this argument |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:17pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
A40: This time 2018 it was a 13 points gap, right now its 25points 7points gap is still a race, Last January there was a 7points gap and it was still a race, this is 25points gap |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:26pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
Melvyn11:no. What he is clarifying is that the Liverpool team is better than Leicester |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 5:26pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:Because Liverpool has 76 points not 69. In 2018 the gap would have been 20 points 7 points gap is only possible if City match a feat they had only achieved once in their 100+ year history. You're essentially banking on a 110/1 odds just to be behind by 7 points. That's not realistic |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 5:34pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:I won't stoop to that level. I know better raumdeuter:Their form is useless. They are literally facing Thanos after he got all 6 infinity stones raumdeuter:Doesn't mean we have to stoop to their level and not give credit where it's due |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:37pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
eph12:exactly my point |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:46pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
A40: The same metric EPL fans used to tag a league farmers league is what I am using When Spain was dominating the entire CL and Europa that didn't stop EPL fans from calling it a farmers league I am giving Liverpool their credit but putting in context that their lead wont be this much if other teams were decent Let me ask, WIll Liverpool be topping by 25 points if other teams are not having a horrible season? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:49pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
pamcode:now, you are making my point. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:06pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:30pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
Greatihex:You can comfortably point to the EPL because La Liga doesn't command the same viewership as the EPL. I watch Barcelona vs Getafe and I was shocked that Nyom wasn't shown a red card after elbowing Umtiti on purpose even after the referee watched the video replay but but let's rather talk EPL. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:31pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
Greatihex:No... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 6:31pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter: buh b4 u call a league farmer's league,,,did u consider d points gap BTW d 2teams leading d league now not forgetting d fact DAT d 2nd team is falling behind by 25points after previously bossing d league 2 seasons b4? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:34pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:All you do is talk about the top teams.... You are not acknowledging the form of the other sides in the league... The likes of wolves, Leicester, Sheffield have all improved...my argument is that thee form of these teams has made the league stronger thereby preventing the likes of chelsea and manu a stroll to the top 4... 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:35pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
macjireh: Did EPL fans consider all these before calling other leagues farmers league |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:38pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
kendrick93: Did you and other EPL fans consider all the form of Bilbao Frankfurt Rennes, Atalanta when you call other leagues a farmers league? I am simply using the metrics EPL fans have used for other leagues in the past BTW all those other teams looks like they have improved because the top teams are poor. Every fan of other top teams acknowledge their team is poor this season with or without the lesser teams E.g Before Chelsea fans kicked the ball this season or faced any of Leicester Sheffield and Wolves they already set their expectations very low. Same thing with Man Utd, I doubt any Man Utd fan put their hopes up this season even before any ball was kicked Why? Because they knew this is one of the lowest state of their club has ever been in recent years 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:45pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:Wolves are doing great in the Europa so they are a good team..... Leicester are on track to beat their points haul they had the year they won the league.... England has 7 teams in the knockout stages, last year they dominated both the Europa and CL. As it stands now the PL is the best league... Which league do you think is better? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by IamD18: 6:45pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
Greatihex:Liverpool won UCL last season, did other Ucl contenders struggled? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:56pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
kendrick93: Spain has 7 teams in the knockout stages too yet it didnt stop EPl fans from calling it a farmers league even when La Liga teams were winning CL and Europa They would reference the gap at the top of the table as evidence, why shouldnt we do the same to the epl now 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 7:01pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
raumdeuter:I ask again which league do you think is better |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by IamD18: 7:02pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
This particular guy no dey tire for argument? 4 Likes
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