raumdeuter:


Liverpool will win the league is different from Liverpool winning unchallenged where they have 25 wins out of 26. Are they playing amateurs?
Citeh won the league last season and it was a battle all through
Its just February and Liverpool needs just 5 wins out of their last 12 games to seal the title if their rivals win the rest
Liverpool senior team only failed to win 4 times this season and 3 of those were when they played 7 games outside EPL

There is no season Liverpool will not win the league unchallenged based on this form.

Are they playing amateurs? Was Pep playing amateurs when they won the league with 19pts?

When Pep sealed the title at the earliest time in League history nobody said the league was not competitive. When Mourinho did it in 05 conceding just 15 goals and finishing almost 15 points ahead nobody said the league was uncompetitive

UCL is tougher than EPL. We all know this. Even Pep can vouch

raumdeuter:


My point is EPL this season is weak, the team that is steamrolling you all is chopping it in Europe. Even if na one game no team in the league can win after 26

not only this season. It has been like that for some time now.

Man city also benefitted from it.

A40:
French League is not producing 7 teams in the knockout stage of competition

When Bayern and Dortmund played the CL final, did that stop the cries of farmers league? So why stop now? when the gap between 1st and 2nd in the same league is 25

Liverpool's haul dwarfs that of Pep even in his record season. Chelsea and Spurs will still be 25 points behind
Arsenal almost 30 points behind. Makes no difference

Liverpool being 7points ahead of rival is different from being 25 points ahead. This time last seaosn Liverpool was 3 points ahead and no one called it a farmers league because there was a race

That is the point. City's best season in their league would still leave them 7 points behind Liverpool. Their best performance of all time ohh.

Liverpool scored their best point ever and won the CL then came the next year and topped that. The point is nobody's best in the history of English football would have produced a challenge for Liverpool. City would have needed to match their best record in 100 years just to be within single digits of Liverpool. This speaks more about Liverpool than the league

7 points gap is not 25points gap. 7 points still suggest that they are facing a challenge locally, unlike now where Liverpool can lose the next 8 games and still be topping the league

If their rivals are not having historic lows we might agree, but all 5 teams are all having their worst seasons in recent years

A40:
There is no season Liverpool will not win the league unchallenged based on this form.

Are they playing amateurs? Was Pep playing amateurs when they won the league with 19pts?

When Pep sealed the title at the earliest time in League history nobody said the league was not competitive. When Mourinho did it in 05 conceding just 15 goals and finishing almost 15 points ahead nobody said the league was uncompetitive

UCL is tougher than EPL. We all know this. Even Pep can vouch

Winning the league is different from winning with 25points winning a 100m photo finish is different from winning by 25yards

Last season City won the league but there was a challenge all through. At this point even in the 100points season, City was leading by 13points Liverpool is about double that

raumdeuter:


Last season City won the league but there was a challenge all through

As at May last year, you were like.....

raumdeuter:


what he couldn't achieve in Barca and Bayern he did effortlessly in the weak EPL

breaking league records, Cup records like it was going out of fashion

Ramuzaki....shame on you!!

patrickmuf:
You're not making any sense right now, your argument will make sense if Liverpool are eliminated...Their goal in the group stage was to qualify for the round of 16 and they achieved it. Now, their goal is to progress to the quarters and they stand a good chance after the first leg so what exactly is your point?

In Euros, Portugal didn't win a game until the semi-finals but who cares, they won it and that's all that matters.

are you saying that if they lose the tie, that they will become less a great team?



For me, No.

They are a great team, but their position in the league is helped by the weakness of the league.

raumdeuter:

When Bayern and Dortmund played the CL final, did that stop the cries of farmers league? So why stop now? when the gap between 1st and 2nd in the same league is 25

You can't call a league a farmer's league if it's teams are doing well in Europe. Points gap is points gap. We have seen Milan win the CL despite being 25 points behind their league winner. Should we call CL farmer's league?

raumdeuter:

Liverpool being 7points ahead of rival is different from being 25 points ahead. This time last seaosn Liverpool was 3 points ahead and no one called it a farmers league because there was a race

That is hypothetically speaking. You're assuming City would match their highest points haul ever just for there to be a semblance of a race

Champions League is the determinant of whether a league is farmer's league or not. Portuguese and Turkish league for example is a farmer's league no matter how tight the title race is

raumdeuter:

7 points gap is not 25points gap. 7 points still suggest that they are facing a challenge locally, unlike now where Liverpool can lose the next 8 games and still be topping the league

If their rivals are not having historic lows we might agree, but all 5 teams are all having their worst seasons in recent years

Hypothetically. You are hypothetically assuming City is at its best form.

If City at its best form are still some distance behind Liverpool then what does it matter if all the teams were not having their best seasons.

Like the Rock says. It doesn't matter what season City, Spurs or Chelsea have.

They would still be behind and unable to challenge for the title

nihilistjnr:


My struggle is clearly not your struggle, so of course you will perceive me as the sick bastard.

Fam leave this place and go and find a pënis to suck or something

Are you saying Neymar1095 na homo?

See my guy topics

Homosexuality is not part of the scorecard to join ApariSports. They will soon disown him.

adisaaowala:
As at May last year, you were like.....
Ramuzaki....shame on you!!

This year the league has now fallen to a new low of weakness never seen before. Imagine 25 wins in 26

A40:

You can't call a league a farmer's league if it's teams are doing well in Europe. Points gap is points gap. We have seen Milan win the CL despite being 25 points behind their league winner. Should we call CL farmer's league?

The same metric they used to judge other leagues is what we are using to judge them. Bayern and Dortmund made the CL finals, they called it a weak league because of the points gap. Now why shouldnt we do the same for EPL?

That is hypothetically speaking. You're assuming City would match their highest points haul ever just for there to be a semblance of a race

I am talking about the points reality. The form of the league rivals

Champions League is the determinant of whether a league is farmer's league or not. Portuguese and Turkish league for example is a farmer's league no matter how tight the title race is

Germany Italy and even Spain were called farmers league by the same EPL fans fighting tooth and nail when we call the EPL a farmers league even when those leagues were doing well in the CL

Hypothetically. You are hypothetically assuming City is at its best form.

If City at its best form are still some distance behind Liverpool then what does it matter if all the teams were not having their best seasons.

Like the Rock says. It doesn't matter what season City, Spurs or Chelsea have.

They would still be behind and unable to challenge for the title

A league with a a 25 points gap can only be a farmers league following the EPL fans logic. How can a league be won by December

raumdeuter:


Winning the league is different from winning with 25points winning a 100m photo finish is different from winning by 25yards

Last season City won the league but there was a challenge all through. At this point even in the 100points season, City was leading by 13points Liverpool is about double that

It wasn't photo finish in 2018 was it?

The reason it is double that is because this Liverpool would have been 7 points ahead of that City as well

patrickmuf:
Lol you guys didn't watch the game with your binoculars on or it is because Liverpool lost that we're not hearing of any controversies?

Seriously though, VAR in England is different from the rest of the leagues. We know how it favours especially livarpool and Man Utd

patrickmuf:
Folks, before now, the premise upon which Raumdeuter used to rate a league as the best was the performance of their representatives in Europe but now the EPL is doing well, the goal post has been shifted.

The UCL and UEL was contested by EPL teams last season and now, all the EPL representatives have make it to the round of 16 in the UCL just as Manchester United, Wolves and Arsenal are doing great in the Europa league but no, the EPL must be garbage because of what is happening in their local league...Europe is no longer the standard...What a time to be alive...Amala has suffered.

that is why I am looking at him with one eye in this argument

A40:
It wasn't photo finish in 2018 was it?
The reason it is double that is because this Liverpool would have been 7 points ahead of that City as well

This time 2018 it was a 13 points gap, right now its 25points

7points gap is still a race, Last January there was a 7points gap and it was still a race, this is 25points gap

Melvyn11:

You just clarified Liverpool are even having it easier that Leicester.

no. What he is clarifying is that the Liverpool team is better than Leicester

raumdeuter:


This time 2018 it was a 13 points gap, right now its 25points

7points gap is still a race, Last January there was a 7points gap and it was still a race, this is 25points gap

Because Liverpool has 76 points not 69. In 2018 the gap would have been 20 points

7 points gap is only possible if City match a feat they had only achieved once in their 100+ year history. You're essentially banking on a 110/1 odds just to be behind by 7 points. That's not realistic

raumdeuter:


The same metric they used to judge other leagues is what we are using to judge them. Bayern and Dortmund made the CL finals, they called it a weak league because of the points gap. Now why shouldnt we do the same for EPL?

I won't stoop to that level. I know better

raumdeuter:

I am talking about the points reality. The form of the league rivals

Their form is useless. They are literally facing Thanos after he got all 6 infinity stones

raumdeuter:


Germany Italy and even Spain were called farmers league by the same EPL fans fighting tooth and nail when we call the EPL a farmers league even when those leagues were doing well in the CL


A league with a a 25 points gap can only be a farmers league following the EPL fans logic. How can a league be won by December

Doesn't mean we have to stoop to their level and not give credit where it's due

eph12:

I never said LFC don't deserve to be top of the league, neither do I claim they're not the best.

Now if you're claiming that the league is competitive as in LFC are in a world of their own, while the others should share the competition, I have no words.

exactly my point

A40:

I won't stoop to that level. I know better
Their form is useless. They are literally facing Thanos after he got all 6 infinity stones

Doesn't mean we have to stoop to their level and not give credit where it's due

The same metric EPL fans used to tag a league farmers league is what I am using

When Spain was dominating the entire CL and Europa that didn't stop EPL fans from calling it a farmers league

I am giving Liverpool their credit but putting in context that their lead wont be this much if other teams were decent

Let me ask, WIll Liverpool be topping by 25 points if other teams are not having a horrible season?

pamcode:
How many teams have they 'blown' away. The Liverpool games I have seen this season they have had to dig deep to win. There were some you knew they had no business winning but still managed to get all three points.

All the cups that have won this season and last have been gritted wins.

now, you are making my point.

seankafor:
Baby welcome to the bridge, where you could get shot for playing both sides nigga it is what it is..

Hiphop and gangsterism is like bread and butter

This one pain me I no go lie.

That welcome to the woo 2 album has been on repeat since it dropped last week.

E pain me

Greatihex:
are you saying that if they lose the tie, that they will become less a great team?



For me, No.

They are a great team, but their position in the league is helped by the weakness of the league.

You can comfortably point to the EPL because La Liga doesn't command the same viewership as the EPL. I watch Barcelona vs Getafe and I was shocked that Nyom wasn't shown a red card after elbowing Umtiti on purpose even after the referee watched the video replay but but let's rather talk EPL.

Greatihex:
are you saying that if they lose the tie, that they will become less a great team?



For me, No.

They are a great team, but their position in the league is helped by the weakness of the league.

No...

raumdeuter:


The same metric they used to judge other leagues is what we are using to judge them. Bayern and Dortmund made the CL finals, they called it a weak league because of the points gap. Now why shouldnt we do the same for EPL?



I am talking about the points reality. The form of the league rivals


Germany Italy and even Spain were called farmers league by the same EPL fans fighting tooth and nail when we call the EPL a farmers league even when those leagues were doing well in the CL




A league with a a 25 points gap can only be a farmers league following the EPL fans logic. How can a league be won by December

buh b4 u call a league farmer's league,,,did u consider d points gap BTW d 2teams leading d league now not forgetting d fact DAT d 2nd team is falling behind by 25points after previously bossing d league 2 seasons b4?

raumdeuter:


This time last season Liverpool had 1 loss and 5 draws in the EPL, This season they have 1 draw in 26 games

airmark tell me the last time Chelsea your team has been this weak in the league,
How many times since you started supporting Chelsea you saw your team at the beginning of the season and thought top 4 will be a miracle and realistically top 6 would be good.
How many times have some of your fans thought top 10 is possible and some even said Hope is what "we don't relegate"

Patrickmuf too can tell me the last time his team Man Utd has been this weak in the league

All you do is talk about the top teams....
You are not acknowledging the form of the other sides in the league...
The likes of wolves, Leicester, Sheffield have all improved...my argument is that thee form of these teams has made the league stronger thereby preventing the likes of chelsea and manu a stroll to the top 4...

macjireh:


buh b4 u call a league farmer's league,,,did u consider d points gap BTW d 2teams leading d league now not forgetting d fact DAT d 2nd team is falling behind by 25points after previously bossing d league 2 seasons b4?

Did EPL fans consider all these before calling other leagues farmers league

kendrick93:

All you do I talk about the top teams....
You are acknowledging the form of the other sides in the league...
The likes of wolves, Leicester, Sheffield have all improved...my argument is that thee form of these teams has made the league stronger thereby preventing the likes of chelsea and manu a stroll to the top 4...

Did you and other EPL fans consider all the form of Bilbao Frankfurt Rennes, Atalanta when you call other leagues a farmers league?

I am simply using the metrics EPL fans have used for other leagues in the past

BTW all those other teams looks like they have improved because the top teams are poor. Every fan of other top teams acknowledge their team is poor this season with or without the lesser teams

E.g Before Chelsea fans kicked the ball this season or faced any of Leicester Sheffield and Wolves they already set their expectations very low. Same thing with Man Utd, I doubt any Man Utd fan put their hopes up this season even before any ball was kicked

Why? Because they knew this is one of the lowest state of their club has ever been in recent years

raumdeuter:


Did you and other EPL fans consider all the form of Bilbao Frankfurt Rennes, Atalanta when you call other leagues a farmers league?

I am simply using the metrics EPL fans have used for other leagues in the past

BTW all those other teams looks like they have improved because the top teams are poor. Every fan of other top teams acknowledge their team is poor this season with or without the lesser teams

E.g Before Chelsea fans kicked the ball this season or faced any of Leicester Sheffield and Wolves they already set their expectations very low. Same thing with Man Utd, I doubt any Man Utd fan put their hopes up this season even before any ball was kicked
....
The English league has 7 teams in the knockout stages in europe so if they poor how does that happen.
Last year they dominated both The CL and europa...
As it stands now the PL is the best league in the world, any other argument is silly

Why? Because they knew this is one of the lowest state of their club has ever been in recent years

Wolves are doing great in the Europa so they are a good team.....
Leicester are on track to beat their points haul they had the year they won the league....
England has 7 teams in the knockout stages, last year they dominated both the Europa and CL.
As it stands now the PL is the best league...
Which league do you think is better?

Greatihex:
you just admitted that other teams are struggling, but you don't want to accept that it is helping Liverpool.

Hope you understand the argument?

Liverpool won UCL last season, did other Ucl contenders struggled?

kendrick93:
Wolves are doing great in the Europa so they are a good team.....
Leicester are on track to beat their points haul they had the year they won the league....
England has 7 teams in the knockout stages, last year they dominated both the Europa and CL.
As it stands now the PL is the best league...
Which league do you think is better?

Spain has 7 teams in the knockout stages too yet it didnt stop EPl fans from calling it a farmers league even when La Liga teams were winning CL and Europa

They would reference the gap at the top of the table as evidence, why shouldnt we do the same to the epl now

raumdeuter:


Spain has 7 teams in the knockout stages too yet it didnt stop EPl fans from calling it a farmers league even when La Liga teams were winning CL and Europa

They would reference the gap at the top of the table as evidence, why shouldnt we do the same to the epl now

I ask again which league do you think is better

This particular guy no dey tire for argument?