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Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by DModeCntStopMe: 2:14pm On Mar 31, 2020
The topic is quite misleading, not until I read the whole piece

Ethnicity wasn't the right word to be used in this context

Equity, justice and fairness would have fit in properly

But in all honesty, the writer captured Nigeria in his write-up

What is most captivating is that he proffered a solution to the challenges he highlighted

Kudos to him.

All Nigerians should read this
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by Nobody: 4:26pm On Mar 31, 2020
maestroferddi:
You are not even academic in your logic...

Yoruba have been narrow-minded politically since Lugard and his mistress embarked on the misadventure of amalgamating nationalities who had no business being together.

You keep touting how the Yorubas shared their votes in 2015 and 2019...

Are you not deluding yourself when it is clear that aside tribal/ethnic considerations, APC and Buhari were not supposed to feature in the equation of 2019 given the abysmal failure they recorded in government.

All over Nigeria, Buhari has been seen as failure but the South West are still re-enforcing failure not minding the existential threat it poses...
You're just a clown and a pathetic bigot. The SW simply voted Buhari, by a small margin, because he was viewed as the better option.

Only you terribly tribalistic Igbos will always pretend to not see what is obvious which, in the case of the 2019 election, is that Atiku is a well-known leader whose antecedent is one of materialism, corruption, disloyalty, unprincipled political oloshoism(jumping from one Party to another in lust for power) and a proven history of the former VP being one of those that got us where we are today!!!

It was him and his boss OBJ who supervised the squandering of billions of dollars set aside for the power sector with Nigeria not gaining a megawatt of power!!!

Same Atiku is known to own the biggest retailers of generator sets in Nigeria while the nation continues to struggle with epileptic power.

The Yorubas, a sane and balanced people, had solid reasons to vote against Atiku for what they feel is the better evil in PMB.

What is the reason for Igbos overwhelmingly voting a failed, power-hungry, indolent and unprincipled Atiku to be President if not Tribalism(Peter Obi an Igbo becomes VP) and raw hate for PMB?

See you Igbos can never be as analytically intelligent as the Yorubas who will always use your own myopic argument to show you are a lot more guilty of what you accuse others of.

I won't curse but I will just say God will judge you people for always lying against the Yorubas and trying to paint them in a bad light. You lot are simply mad wanting to revise history to make it seem Yorubas did not have very, very, very solid reasons for rejecting Atiku.

The corruption Atiku has been historically linked with is the stuff of legends yet you Igbos voted 100% for him. I wonder what that makes you people. You are the same wicked and hateful ethnic group who will attack Tinubu daily for corruption yet were willing to vote in Atiku whose corruption, at Federal level, needs a Nollywood film dedicated to it !!!!!

Forumers can google "Atiku corruption record" to note Yorubas will always be more responsible, more aware of their civic duty, more devoted to doing the right thing and more decent than hate-voters Igbo.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/28/1

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Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by maestroferddi: 4:56pm On Mar 31, 2020
candidtalk:
You're just a clown and a pathetic bigot. The SW simply voted Buhari, by a small margin, because he was viewed as the better option.

Only you terribly tribalistic Igbos will always pretend to not see what is obvious which, in the case of the 2019 election, is that Atiku is a well-known leader whose antecedent is one of materialism, corruption, disloyalty, unprincipled political oloshoism(jumping from one Party to another in lust for power) and a proven history of the former VP being one of those that got us where we are today!!!

It was him and his boss OBJ who supervised the squandering of billions of dollars set aside for the power sector with Nigeria not gaining a megawatt of power!!!

Same Atiku is known to own the biggest retailers of generator sets in Nigeria while the nation continues to struggle with epileptic power.

The Yorubas, a sane and balanced people, had solid reasons to vote against Atiku for what they feel is the better evil in PMB.

What is the reason for Igbos overwhelmingly voting a failed, power-hungry, indolent and unprincipled Atiku to be President if not Tribalism(Peter Obi an Igbo becomes VP) and raw hate for PMB?

See you Igbos can never be as analytically intelligent as the Yorubas who will always use your own myopic argument to show you are a lot more guilty of what you accuse others of.

I won't curse but I will just say God will judge you people for always lying against the Yorubas and trying to paint them in a bad light. You lot are simply mad wanting to revise history to make it seem Yorubas did not have very, very, very solid reasons for rejecting Atiku.

The corruption Atiku has been historically linked with is the stuff of legends yet you Igbos voted 100% for him. I wonder what that makes you people. You are the same wicked and hateful ethnic group who will attack Tinubu daily for corruption yet were willing to vote in Atiku whose corruption, at Federal level, needs a Nollywood film dedicated to it !!!!!

Forumers can google "Atiku corruption record" to note Yorubas will always be more responsible, more aware of their civic duty, more devoted to doing the right thing and more decent than hate-voters Igbo.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/28/1
You are wearing emotion on your sleeves, my friend.

I will not waste precious time trying refute the barrage of crap you wrote up here so take a hike. ..
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by Nobody: 5:43pm On Mar 31, 2020
maestroferddi:
You are wearing emotion on your sleeves, my friend.

I will not waste precious time trying refute the barrage of crap you wrote up here so take a hike. ..
Confronted with superior logic, the deceptive coward flees. Was your intention not the usual "Yorubas inflicted Buhari on Nigeria" bs?

Never, in your dedication to twisting the narrative dishonestly, do you Igbos ever admit Atiku is a very well-known entity Yorubas had very solid and fact-based reasons for rejecting.

Yorubas demonstrated responsible restraint while you Igbos, also aware of Atiku's chequered past, irresponsibly voted for PDP almost 100%.

Indicative of how wicked you Igbos are, you would always wish to guilt-trip Yorubas over Buhari without ever accepting that they had reasons to be wary of Atiku.

Conversely, you people showed gross irresponsibility voting for Atiku, with virtually 100% of your votes, given that there is hardly any corruption scandal at federal level Atiku was not linked to.

I would think, once again, Igbos electoral choice only shows their tribalistic, hateful and hypocritical nature while Yoruba voting pattern showed pragmatism, progressive balance and critical awareness.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by bigpicture001: 5:45pm On Mar 31, 2020
LegendHero:
“Conversely, when it comes to the Western part of Nigeria, religion can never make it to resort to violence. As I wrote in an August 2012 article entitled, “Religious tolerance: Are the Yoruba Number 1 in the world?”, there may not be any ethnic group or race that is more tolerant than the Yoruba on the issue of religion. Man and wife or twins can be Muslim and Christian and live in peace. A family may have a Muslim father, a Christian mother, a Christian first daughter of a different denomination, an animist first son, an atheist second son, and yet live in peace, with everyone celebrating each religious feast as one family. People can be voted offices irrespective of their religious inclinations. That is why the religious division being created by the Muslim Rights Concern, led by Prof Ishaq Akintola, is dangerous to what the South-West is known for.”


The Yoruba people are the MOST religious tolerant ethnic group in the world. No person can contest this.
They cannot fight cause Yoruba is 85% muslims
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m): 5:47pm On Mar 31, 2020
bigpicture001:
They cannot fight cause Yoruba is 85% muslims
How can Yoruba be 85% Muslims?

Did you got the info from IPOB Bureau of Statistic?
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by bigpicture001: 5:53pm On Mar 31, 2020
LegendHero:
How can Yoruba be 85% Muslims?

Did you got the info from IPOB Bureau of Statistic?
...lol...p.h guy shift look ooo
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by Nobody: 6:00pm On Mar 31, 2020
LegendHero:
How can Yoruba be 85% Muslims?

Did you got the info from IPOB Bureau of Statistic?
Lying shamelessly and divisively is in their DNA and it is sad some gullible Yorubas fall for their deceit.

Are Igbos not the ones who created the "Yoruba Muslim" tag because they are obsessed with finding what divides people and never what brings man together in peace, tolerance and harmony?

They want everyone to be hateful like them and this is why they can only spread division wherever they are be it on Nairaland or in Ghana or Zimbabwe.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m): 6:15pm On Mar 31, 2020
candidtalk:
Lying shamelessly and divisively is in their DNA and it is sad some gullible Yorubas fall for their deceit.

Are Igbos not the ones who created the "Yoruba Muslim" tag because they are obsessed with finding what divides people and never what brings man together in peace, tolerance and harmony?

They want everyone to be hateful like them and this is why they can only spread division wherever they are be it on Nairaland or in Ghana or Zimbabwe.
Abi o. Those children of hate always detest what they can’t have.

They have always been jealous of how the Yorubas were able to shed off the animosity of religion. It is a feat that the Yorubas have taught the whole world coz we are the most religious tolerant ethnic group in the world.

They are not bred with love and family bond like the Yorubas, hence they will not understand the love that exists in every Omoluabi’s heart toward his fellow Yoruba people irrespective of religious identity.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by maestroferddi: 7:59pm On Mar 31, 2020
candidtalk:
Confronted with superior logic, the deceptive coward flees. Was your intention not the usual "Yorubas inflicted Buhari on Nigeria" bs?

Never, in your dedication to twisting the narrative dishonestly, do you Igbos ever admit Atiku is a very well-known entity Yorubas had very solid and fact-based reasons for rejecting.

Yorubas demonstrated responsible restraint while you Igbos, also aware of Atiku's chequered past, irresponsibly voted for PDP almost 100%.

Indicative of how wicked you Igbos are, you would always wish to guilt-trip Yorubas over Buhari without ever accepting that they had reasons to be wary of Atiku.

Conversely, you people showed gross irresponsibility voting for Atiku, with virtually 100% of your votes, given that there is hardly any corruption scandal at federal level Atiku was not linked to.

I would think, once again, Igbos electoral choice only shows their tribalistic, hateful and hypocritical nature while Yoruba voting pattern showed pragmatism, progressive balance and critical awareness.
You are not smart.

The Igbos plump for achievers and performers and do not waste their time on a twisted sense/notion of propriety and self-righteousness.

Even a half-wut knows that Nigerian politicians are ALL corrupt. It is only simple-minded people like you who allow yourself to be hoodwinked by high-falllutin nonsense.

There is little doubt that Atiku would have delivered the goods. That you can't dispute.

If I had a choice between a maverick and an epitome of incompetence, I would choose the party who will deliver results.

Trump is not the most popular in the US but even his detractors know that he is a goal-getter.

Talking of blemishes , are we talking of an individual who truncated a democratically-elected government or another?

Omo kekere...go figure.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by Jomonix: 8:16pm On Mar 31, 2020
Ethnicity really need to be redefined to mean opposite of what it is before it will be used to qualify the attitude of an Igbo man.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m):
maestroferddi:
You are not smart.

The Igbos plump for achievers and performers and do not waste their time on a twisted sense/notion of propriety and self-righteousness.

Even a half-wut knows that Nigerian politicians are ALL corrupt. It is only simple-minded people like you who allow yourself to be hoodwinked by high-falllutin nonsense.

There is little doubt that Atiku would have delivered the goods. That you can't dispute.

If I had a choice between a maverick and an epitome of incompetence, I would choose the party who will deliver results.

Trump is not the most popular in the US but even his detractors know that he is a goal-getter.

Talking of blemishes , are we talking of an individual who truncated a democratically-elected government or another?

Omo kekere...go figure.
@the bolded, that is a blatant lie, the Igbos only vote along ethnic lines without consideration for merit. Your leaders have always use the mantra of our common enemy to unite you guys to vote in a polarized way.

If the Igbos actually vote on merit like you claimed, why is Abia state governor re-elected with majority vote? Why are some of the underserving governors of the SE re-elected sometimes with 80% of the vote while the voters come back to abuse them after electing them under the illusion of an ethic party PDP.

You all ganged up against a performer during the days of Awolowo for Shagari in both 1979 and 1983 elections. Even a kid knows Awolowo is better than Shagari in all metrics of intelligence.

Same thing played out in 1993 election, you all united with your hate to vote for Tofa even when MKO had a better profile than him and yet you’re proclaiming you vote merit.

In 2015, Jonathan was a clueless president that supervised countless killings with Boko Haram bombing children and women in the North in their numbers while his cronies loot the huge proceeds from crude oil sales. Yet you voted him overwhelmingly and yet you blame the Yorubas that wanted a change in 2015 for voting against Jonathan.

Where is the merit in voting Jonathan with almost 75% vote in 2015 with all his failure?
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by maestroferddi: 9:12pm On Mar 31, 2020
LegendHero:
@the bolded, that is a blatant lie, the Igbos only vote along ethnic lines without consideration for merit. Your leaders have always use the mantra of our common enemy to unite you guys vote in a polarized way.

If the Igbos actually vote merit like you said, why is Abia state governor re-elected with majority vote? Why are some of the underserving governors of the SE re-elected sometimes with 80% of the vote while the voters come back to abuse them after electing them under the illusion of an ethic party PDP.

You all ganged up against a performer during the days of Awolowo for a clueless Shagari in both 1979 and 1983 elections. Even a kid knows Awolowo is better than Shagari in all metrics of intelligence.

Same thing played out in 1993 election, you all united with your hate to vote for Tofa even when MKO had a better profile than him and yet you’re proclaiming you vote merit.

In 2015, Jonathan was a clueless president that supervised countless killings with Boko Haram bombing children and women in the North in their numbers while his cronies loot the huge proceeds from crude oil sales. Yet you voted him overwhelmingly and yet you blame the Yorubas that wanted a change in 2015 for voting against Jonathan.

Where is the merit in voting Jonathan with almost 75% vote in 2015 with all his failure?
Kekere, Oyetola is probably your state Governor, my dear Musulumi al Yorubani...need I say more?


What did Awolowo perform? Let me in...

BTW,you may need to back to your basic government...the Igbos were never in NPN in the Second Republic..

They were in NPP where the Zik of Africa superintended....
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by 9japride(m): 9:12pm On Mar 31, 2020
LegendHero:
@the bolded, that is a blatant lie, the Igbos only vote along ethnic lines without consideration for merit. Your leaders have always use the mantra of our common enemy to unite you guys vote in a polarized way.

If the Igbos actually vote merit like you said, why is Abia state governor re-elected with majority vote? Why are some of the underserving governors of the SE re-elected sometimes with 80% of the vote while the voters come back to abuse them after electing them under the illusion of an ethic party PDP.

You all ganged up against a performer during the days of Awolowo for a clueless Shagari in both 1979 and 1983 elections. Even a kid knows Awolowo is better than Shagari in all metrics of intelligence.

Same thing played out in 1993 election, you all united with your hate to vote for Tofa even when MKO had a better profile than him and yet you’re proclaiming you vote merit.

In 2015, Jonathan was a clueless president that supervised countless killings with Boko Haram bombing children and women in the North in their numbers while his cronies loot the huge proceeds from crude oil sales. Yet you voted him overwhelmingly and yet you blame the Yorubas that wanted a change in 2015 for voting against Jonathan.

Where is the merit in voting Jonathan with almost 75% vote in 2015 with all his failure?
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Igbos knew the person of Buhari and will never vote such. I was very certain that Jonathan 2nd term could have been the best. But the cabal ensured he loss because of oil and not allowing the terrorism war to end.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m): 9:20pm On Mar 31, 2020
maestroferddi:
Kekere, Oyetola is probably your state Governor, my dear Musulumi al Yorubani...need I say more?


What did Awolowo perform? Let me in...

BTW,you may need to back to your basic government...the Igbos were never in NPN in the Second Republic..

They were in NPP where the Zik of Africa superintended....
At least, Oyetola and Adeleke election was keenly contested up to 50/50 % such that they had to go for a re-run to get a winner. That shows you the political intelligence of the SW electorate and their ability to elect a leader unbiased.

Oyo voters voted Makinde a PDP member even with the fact that the APC owned SW. The election was keenly contested between him and Adelabu with a 51/49 % win and that got to show you the education of the Yoruba electorate at work.

You are talking about the Igbos not in NPN, how does that had to do with electing sound candidates on merit? Did that not contradict you earlier statement that Igbo vote on merit?

You have elected useless unperforming governors in the SE multiple times with almost 75-80 % of the total vote and one would but wonder what you mean by the Igbo vote merit!

You are the only tribe that can be remote controlled with hateful propaganda such that you all fall in line to a goal without thinking through the outcome. We’ve seen you condemning Ikpeazu everytime online and one would but wonder who voted him in the first place.

Awolowo is far above the intellect of Shagari, are you trying to contest that self-evident truth?
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m): 9:26pm On Mar 31, 2020
9japride:
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Igbos knew the person of Buhari and will never vote such. I was very certain that Jonathan 2nd term could have been the best. But the cabal ensured he loss because of oil and not allowing the terrorism war to end.
Nope, Igbo rather vote overwhelmingly for Jonathan because they see him as one of their own. They were blinded by loyalty to ethnicity and they should not be put in the same sentence with a merit vote.

Countless people were dying in the NE, Boko Haram even bombed Abuja, they hold territories within Nigeria. Oil price proceeds were at all time high with his disciples embezzling all the money. Several governors were already owing workers salaries pre-2015 and the nation was heading for doom.

If the Igbos actually vote on merit, they wouldn’t have given Jonathan that much overwhelming vote. They are as tribalistic in voting as the northerners they always sought to abuse. Even the North is better than them to some extent.

Stop saying the Igbos vote on merit, they only vote based on common enemy and they are the only ethnic group that is most susceptible to polarization.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by awgumayor: 9:48pm On Mar 31, 2020
Esseite:
Yes everyone all have some atom of tribalism in them, it's natural.. but tribalism cannot be common with a people whom trade, learn, interact with other cultures far and wide to make a living majorly..

If you are talking about political tribalism, when you check the elective stats of leaders and votes, you would agree with me tribalism is not even close. what may have prompted the new generation political tribalism can be ascribed to the political imbalance of the country which borders on equity and fairness.
May God bless you with more wisdom. Tribalism is in every Nigerian, just that igbos hate injustice and oppression.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by awgumayor: 9:56pm On Mar 31, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Really!

Go and read the history of the first republic

Go and read how igbos tried to dominate every ethnic group in Nigeria

Or what do you think really led to the civil war? you think every single thing started from the first coup?
Are they still dominating you now? Since you have been liberated, how far have you gone?
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by Nobody: 10:13pm On Mar 31, 2020
maestroferddi:
You are not smart.

The Igbos plump for achievers and performers and do not waste their time on a twisted sense/notion of propriety and self-righteousness.

Even a half-wut knows that Nigerian politicians are ALL corrupt. It is only simple-minded people like you who allow yourself to be hoodwinked by high-falllutin nonsense.

There is little doubt that Atiku would have delivered the goods. That you can't dispute.

If I had a choice between a maverick and an epitome of incompetence, I would choose the party who will deliver results.

Trump is not the most popular in the US but even his detractors know that he is a goal-getter.

Talking of blemishes , are we talking of an individual who truncated a democratically-elected government or another?

Omo kekere...go figure.
What an incoherent douche. Simple truth that facts and statistic validate is that Yoruba voting pattern show they are never 'herded' and that they vote pragmatically to secure good governance.

Igbo voting patterns, on the other hand, leaves no objective person in doubt that the ethnic group is clannish, unconcerned about merit and only interested in voting to sate a tribalistic or discriminatory agenda.

Me and LegendHero have given enough factual example to show that, regardless of the lies of Igbos, the proven truth history supports is that Igbos shun any consideration of merit to vote in a primordial manner always.

In fact, it is obvious the Igbos are a very uniquely clannish ethnic group who, despite claims to erudition, seem incapable of rising above pettiness and a discriminatory outlook to vote intelligently.

Accept that truth or continue rambling fraudulently and cretinously.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by holicupp(m): 10:28pm On Mar 31, 2020
fact and factoid

Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by kayfra:
sarrki:
gion moves the North, politics moves the West, ethnicity moves the East
Published March 31, 2020

Azuka Onwuka



Over the weekend, it was reported that some rioters torched a police station in Kusada, Katsina State, leading to the death of one person, because of the arrest of an Islamic cleric who held public prayers on Friday in breach of the Federal Government’s ban on gathering of crowds as a measure to stem the spread of COVID-19 pandemic.

Putting what happened in Katsina in context, it was not strange. Nigeria has three key problems that have bogged it down for decades: religion, ethnicity, and politics. The absence of a structure that puts these issues into cognisance and finds a solution to accommodate them in a positive way has ensured that Nigeria has stagnated or even regressed.


In summary, one can say that religion drives the North; politics drives the West, while ethnicity drives the East. By the East, one means the Old Eastern Region and the old Mid-Western Region.

The only part of Nigeria where the arrest of a religious leader for disobeying a Federal Government directive can lead to the burning of a police station is the North. And in the North, it will mainly be in the North-East, North-West and a small part of the North-Central. In Northern Nigeria, you dare not toy with Islam in whatever form. The passion for Islam is even higher than what obtains in Saudi Arabia where Islam has its headquarters.


In the North, political differences may hardly cause any quarrels. That is why in the Second Republic, Mallam Aminu Kano, with his People’s Redemption Party, controlled Kano State, the biggest state in the region (which then had Katsina as part of it), at a time Alhaji Shehu Shagari of the National Party of Nigeria was the President of Nigeria. At the same time, the Great Nigeria People’s Party, led by Alhaji Waziri Ibrahim, was in control of the old Borno State (which includes the current Yobe State). That did not create any problem or riot in the North.


Last month, the Emir of Kano, Muhammadu Sanusi II, was deposed and banished by the Government of Kano State. Some feared that it could cause a riot in the Kano and other Northern states, but nothing happened. The reality is that such a thing does not have the capacity to ignite a riot in the North.

If the Oba of Benin or the Obi of Onitsha had been deposed and banished for speaking against poverty, street children, low illiteracy rate and inequality in their domains or because of perceived political differences with the governor, it would have created an uproar in Edo and Anambra states respectively, with other neighbouring states speaking fiercely condemning the governor. In fact, the governor would not even contemplate deposing such a traditional ruler over such seemingly petty issues for fear of the consequences. An extreme action like that could only arise if the traditional leader is accused of a serious criminal offence like robbery, fraud, kidnapping, or any action that is deemed as bringing his office to disrepute.


Similarly, it will be hard to see the North riot over poverty, harsh economy or lack of employment. But it will be easy for the North to riot if there is any action taken against Islam in any part of the world, be it Denmark, Britain, France or the United States.

Police extort motorists to cross Delta boundary
In addition, the Boko Haram insurgency, which has its roots in religion, cannot happen in any part of the South. There can be an uprising in the South over ethnic or political issues, but never over religion.


The Middle Belt, which is also part of the North, draws its strength of unity from religion: Christianity. The people of this zone see themselves as united by Christianity in a region dominated by Muslims.

Conversely, when it comes to the Western part of Nigeria, religion can never make it to resort to violence. As I wrote in an August 2012 article entitled, “Religious tolerance: Are the Yoruba Number 1 in the world?”, there may not be any ethnic group or race that is more tolerant than the Yoruba on the issue of religion. Man and wife or twins can be Muslim and Christian and live in peace. A family may have a Muslim father, a Christian mother, a Christian first daughter of a different denomination, an animist first son, an atheist second son, and yet live in peace, with everyone celebrating each religious feast as one family. People can be voted offices irrespective of their religious inclinations. That is why the religious division being created by the Muslim Rights Concern, led by Prof Ishaq Akintola, is dangerous to what the South-West is known for.



However, when it comes to politics, the South-West is least tolerant of dissenting views in Nigeria. That is why the political violence that happened in the First Republic tagged Operation Wetie could not have happened in any other part of Nigeria except the South-West. A Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe from the East can be the presidential candidate of the Nigerian People’s Party while his kinsman Dr Alex Ekwueme is the vice presidential candidate of the NPN under Shagari. Such cannot cause any conflict. It is the same in the North.



In the South-West, there is usually one mainstream party to which every “true Yoruba” or omoluabi is expected to belong. Any other party is seen as the party of saboteurs, and anybody who belongs to it is viewed harshly and is hardly ever forgiven. Anytime a South-West state is not controlled by that mainstream party, all is not seen as being well until that state is brought back to the fold. The unwritten law is that when it comes to politics, all South-West states must be controlled by the mainstream party of the South-West. Anything to the contrary is seen as an aberration.



In the South-East and the South-South, a different scenario plays out. Religion and politics do not make the people draw the lines. What fires them up is more of ethnic loyalty. Within the zones, you can belong to any political party or religion without much crisis. However, when the people feel that their well-being is threatened, they mobilise and resist such. That was what led to the Biafran War in 1967. The people of the Eastern Region, especially the Igbo, felt that their existence was threatened in Nigeria and resisted it. Before it, the uprising for the creation of the Niger Delta Republic, which was started by Isaac Adaka Boro on February 23, 1966 was for the same reason. Boro believed that the Igbo and the Federal Government were dominating the people of Niger Delta.



Similarly, Ken Saro-Wiwa led the Movement for the Survival of the Ogoni People because of his belief that the Federal Government was tapping the crude oil in Ogoniland and devastating the land without doing much for the people. That movement ended in the hanging of Saro-Wiwa in 1995. But shortly after Nigeria returned to democracy in 1999, sons of the Niger Delta took up arms against Nigeria, blowing up pipelines and kidnapping oil workers as their way of protesting the neglect of their land. It later ended in 2009 with an amnesty.



These are clear signs that show that what beats the drum to which each part of Nigeria dances is different. The tastes, values, desires and worldviews of the different parts of Nigeria are different. What one part sees as immaterial or insignificant means the world to the other zone and vice versa. That is why it has been disastrous trying to run Nigeria like “one nation bound in freedom, peace and unity.”

The only option open to Nigeria to have a modicum of progress is if it is run like a true federation with each zone given the free hand to pursue its dreams. It is a reality that has been difficult for some Nigerians to come to terms with. Yet, it is a reality that continues to thwart every attempt made to circumvent it.




https://punchng.com/religion-moves-the-north-politics-moves-the-west-ethnicity-moves-the-east/
This further reinforces Yorubas as the superior and most sophisticated group. Millions of miles ahead in terms of advanced thinking. We don't bicker on petty ethnic or religious differences. Our debates are mostly ideological.

I am super proud to be Yoruba. Omoluabi. We don't deserve to be in the same country with the savages surrounding us. grin
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m): 10:41pm On Mar 31, 2020
candidtalk:
What an incoherent douche. Simple truth that facts and statistic validate is that Yoruba voting pattern show they are never 'herded' and that they vote pragmatically to secure good governance.

Igbo voting patterns, on the other hand, leaves no objective person in doubt that the ethnic group is clannish, unconcerned about merit and only interested in voting to sate a tribalistic or discriminatory agenda.

Me and LegendHero have given enough factual example to show that, regardless of the lies of Igbos, the proven truth history supports is that Igbos shun any consideration of merit to vote in a primordial manner always.

In fact, it is obvious the Igbos are a very uniquely clannish ethnic group who, despite claims to erudition, seem incapable of rising above pettiness and a discriminatory outlook to vote intelligently.

Accept that truth or continue rambling fraudulently and cretinously.
Nice and factual!
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by chozzy: 10:42pm On Mar 31, 2020
helinues:
The writer was indeed right.. East are known for ethnic and tribal jingoism
Read the article before you comment
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by maestroferddi: 10:46pm On Mar 31, 2020
candidtalk:
What an incoherent douche. Simple truth that facts and statistic validate is that Yoruba voting pattern show they are never 'herded' and that they vote pragmatically to secure good governance.

Igbo voting patterns, on the other hand, leaves no objective person in doubt that the ethnic group is clannish, unconcerned about merit and only interested in voting to sate a tribalistic or discriminatory agenda.

Me and LegendHero have given enough factual example to show that, regardless of the lies of Igbos, the proven truth history supports is that Igbos shun any consideration of merit to vote in a primordial manner always.

In fact, it is obvious the Igbos are a very uniquely clannish ethnic group who, despite claims to erudition, seem incapable of rising above pettiness and a discriminatory outlook to vote intelligently.

Accept that truth or continue rambling fraudulently and cretinously.
The same rationale which makes Tinubu the leader of the Yorubas despite the litany of shenanigans and deviousness dogging his career....

The Igbos voted en mass for Obasanjo....till you return the favour all you are doing is blowing hot air oga.

You don't cherry-pick cases impetuosly in a futile attempt to construct a narrative...

Yoruba sainthood and worldview are moot...
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by bahaushe1: 10:56pm On Mar 31, 2020
Katsina was never part of Kano. Katsina state was created out of Kaduna state. Former Kano state is now Kano and Jigawa states.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by maestroferddi: 11:02pm On Mar 31, 2020
LegendHero:
At least, Oyetola and Adeleke election was keenly contested up to 50/50 % such that they had to go for a re-run to get a winner. That shows you the political intelligence of the SW electorate and their ability to elect a leader unbiased.

Oyo voters voted Makinde a PDP member even with the fact that the APC owned SW. The election was keenly contested between him and Adelabu with a 51/49 % win and that got to show you the education of the Yoruba electorate at work.

You are talking about the Igbos not in NPN, how does that had to do with electing sound candidates on merit? Did that not contradict you earlier statement that Igbo vote on merit?

You have elected useless unperforming governors in the SE multiple times with almost 75-80 % of the total vote and one would but wonder what you mean by the Igbo vote merit!

You are the only tribe that can be remote controlled with hateful propaganda such that you all fall in line to a goal without thinking through the outcome. We’ve seen you condemning Ikpeazu everytime online and one would but wonder who voted him in the first place.

Awolowo is far above the intellect of Shagari, are you trying to contest that self-evident truth?
I want to suppose that you are not a court jester but you appear bent on proving the contrary.

Your aburo has been hallucinating on Abia State...

He was chided that he ought to have been introspective considering that misgovernance, incompetence and debilitating inertia typify his neck of woods ...

Instead of pretending to have a scintilla of objectivity, you chose to regale yourself with an asinine assertion of how the election which threw up Oyetola was conducted as if the ignonimy which characterized that exercise was not there for all to see.

You guys are fixated on anything Igbo while sundry dystopia eventuate round you...
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by sageb: 11:15pm On Mar 31, 2020
Lucidly said, present reality.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m): 11:15pm On Mar 31, 2020
maestroferddi:
The same rationale which makes Tinubu the leader of the Yorubas despite the litany of shenanigans and deviousness dogging his career....

The Igbos voted en mass for Obasanjo....till you return the favour all you are doing is blowing hot air oga.

You don't cherry-pick cases impetuosly in a futile attempt to construct a narrative...

Yoruba sainthood and worldview are moot...
One thing that distinguish a noble man is to know when to give up. Your arguments are too weak bro.

Tinubu is a politician that has his own bad side but no one can take the fact that he is intelligent and a good manager of intellectual resources. He made pragmatic leaders who have reached the echelon of their careers and contributed to Nigeria in all facet of representation.

Yes, the Yoruba choose between the PDP and the ACN because we have seen how incompetent the PDP did during 2003-2007. Tinubu wouldn’t have held sway in the west if the APC hadn’t produced the best governors in terms of governance compared to the PDP candidates.

Ajimobi in Ibadan as against Akala, Fashola in Lagos, Amosun as against Daniel, Aregbesola as against Oyinlola, to mention a few. These guys performance trashed their successor’s own and this gave Tinubu ACN the bargaining power in the SW.

You did the Yoruba no favor by voting Obasanjo, you had no choice that to vote one of Falae or OBJ. OBJ trashed Ekwueme in the Jos PDP 1998 convention and you had no choice than to settle for him. Who will you vote instead? Falae?

You all speak of favor, when did any Igbo contest as a leading presidential candidate of the two major parties since 1999? When have you ever produced a presidential candidate in PDP/AD/ACN/APC since 1999? So how do we vote Igbo people that are not on the ballot?
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by maestroferddi: 11:33pm On Mar 31, 2020
LegendHero:
One thing that distinguish a noble man is to know when to give up. Your arguments are too weak bro.

Tinubu is a politician that has his own bad side but no one can take the fact that he is intelligent and a good manager of intellectual resources. He made pragmatic leaders who have reached the echelon of their careers and contributed to Nigeria in all facet of representation.

Yes, the Yoruba choose between the PDP and the ACN because we have seen how incompetent the PDP did during 2003-2007. Tinubu wouldn’t have held sway in the west if the APC hadn’t produced the best governors in terms of governance compared to the PDP candidates.

Ajimobi in Ibadan as against Akala, Fashola in Lagos, Amosun as against Daniel, Aregbesola as against Oyinlola, to mention a few. These guys performance trashed their successor’s own and this gave Tinubu ACN the bargaining power in the SW.

You did the Yoruba no favor by voting Obasanjo, you had no choice that to vote one of Falae or OBJ. OBJ trashed Ekwueme in the Jos PDP 1998 convention and you had no choice than to settle for him. Who will you vote instead? Falae?

You all speak of favor, when did any Igbo contest as a leading presidential candidate of the two major parties since 1999? When have you ever produced a presidential candidate in PDP/AD/ACN/APC since 1999? So how do we vote Igbo people that are not on the ballot?
I have been torpedoing/shooting down your self-servimg viewpoints by confronting you with irrefutable counterpoints.

This game of musical chairs you are playing flies in the face of objective and constructive interchange...
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by LegendHero(m): 11:42pm On Mar 31, 2020
maestroferddi:
I have been torpedoing/shooting down your self-servimg viewpoints by confronting you with irrefutable counterpoints.

This game of musical chairs you are playing flies in the face of objective and constructive interchange...
My goal is not to change how you reason but I am just trying my best to make you see the fault in your argument that Igbo vote on merit.

That is a blatant lie because historical happenings showed that they vote more along ethnic line or induced collective propaganda.

You are the only set of tribe that your vote can be predicted with accuracy of 80% among all region of Nigeria. That explains why you don’t have much bargaining power in politics because your enemy already know how you are going to vote so they can mitigate against you by strategizing.

You all vote one way without thinking through the merit and demerit of your actions. You just collectively put all your egg in a basket without giving room for strategic reasoning. Although this worked for you guys pre-1999 until the Yorubas also learnt to form alliance with the North.

In a presidential election, I can go to the SE, tell them my opponent is an Islamic fanatics and hate Igbo, even if I am incompetent they will vote me with 85% vote. Your leaders have used this against you for decades and you learned folks from that side aren’t bothered about this.

I am not arguing with you here, I am lecturing you!
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by 9japride(m): 5:10am On Apr 01, 2020
LegendHero:
Nope, Igbo rather vote overwhelmingly for Jonathan because they see him as one of their own. They were blinded by loyalty to ethnicity and they should not be put in the same sentence with a merit vote.

Countless people were dying in the NE, Boko Haram even bombed Abuja, they hold territories within Nigeria. Oil price proceeds were at all time high with his disciples embezzling all the money. Several governors were already owing workers salaries pre-2015 and the nation was heading for doom.

If the Igbos actually vote on merit, they wouldn’t have given Jonathan that much overwhelming vote. They are as tribalistic in voting as the northerners they always sought to abuse. Even the North is better than them to some extent.

Stop saying the Igbos vote on merit, they only vote based on common enemy and they are the only ethnic group that is most susceptible to polarization.
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Igbos choose to vote GEJ because they knew Buhari was a religious fanatic and not a good option. As I said before, GEJ plan in his 2nd tenure was to deal decisively with Boko haram, but the northern leaders felt he's killing their people. It's only greedy/Hungry Igbos that are presently supporting Buhari. I have seen them, it's just for survival nothing else.
Re: Religion Moves The North, Politics Moves The West, Ethnicity Moves The East by OsewaBoy: 6:10am On Apr 01, 2020
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