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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:07pm On Apr 02, 2020
A40:
Why does ministry of information and culture need $500m in a country that has less than 300 ventilators. This is what people should be asking not whataboutism

The problem with critics is that you people conflate issues together.

It’s not like the $27bn loan was just considered today. When that loan package was drawn up, there was no covid-19 pandemic.

Go and read up the history of the loan. The initial loan FG sought approval for was $30bn from the Saraki led senate and only $7.3bn was approved from the loan. The rest were just reintroduced last year ending for consideration by the new senate.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:08pm On Apr 02, 2020
My colleague who sits in the office adjoining mine was tested 3 days ago and came back positive yesterday. He shares that office.with another guy who has been off for two weeks with a temperature etc but yet to be tested. I am always in that office laughing and joking with them, and vice-versa.

I'm hoping some light headedness I was feeling two weeks was the same thing. I got that feeling I get when I suspect Malaria is coming like my immune system is gearing up for action. That same week my daughter came down with fever of 38.6 and requested to go to sleep straight from school. By next morning.she was bouncing around.

Here's hoping I have already caught the shït and my immune system ate it up like Pacman, same with my daughter. Govt should hurry up and release antibody test. If that were the case, I go dey go shop with reckless abandon ehn.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:09pm On Apr 02, 2020
Why is nobody asking why a private company have a stockpile of ventilators?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 8:09pm On Apr 02, 2020
Eruditor:


I did not want to plagiarize that is why I referred him to the tweets. Some of the comments there raised good posers with solid GIFs. For e.g in a part of the video he uploaded where he was "showing coronavirus symptoms" he can be seen smiling and one of the commentators mentioned it and gave evidence.
Alright
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:12pm On Apr 02, 2020
larride:


Is it not better to beg now that a company making them says they have some free to give out? Should we wait until we have a lot of cases in critical condition before we start looking for more?

Isn’t that what you are blaming govt for before?
You're merely defending an irresponsible government trying to be opportunistic

It will be a miracle if they choose us over countries more entrenched in the Battle than we are

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:13pm On Apr 02, 2020
Melvyn11:
Why is nobody asking why a private company have a stockpile of ventilators?

Why shouldn't they? It is up to US Govt to ban export of Ventilators, not for Elon Musk to stop producing.

UK banned export of Chloroquine, while India banned export of paracetamol. Trump should do the same for ventilators.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:14pm On Apr 02, 2020
Eruditor:


If the person died of COVID it should rightly be categorised as a COVID death.

What if the family refuse post mortem?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:16pm On Apr 02, 2020
Ibime:


Why shouldn't they? It is up to US Govt to ban export of Ventilators, not for Elon Musk to stop producing.

UK banned export of Chloroquine, while India banned export of paracetamol. Trump should do the same for ventilators.
Tesla doesn't produce ventilators. He bought them from an open auction market in China.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 8:18pm On Apr 02, 2020
A40:
You're merely defending an irresponsible government trying to be opportunistic

It will be a miracle if they choose us over countries more entrenched in the Battle than we are
This is exactly what I'm saying. Who in the World with less than 500 confirmed cases go around begging for ventilators?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:19pm On Apr 02, 2020
larride:


The problem with critics is that you people conflate issues together.

It’s not like the $27bn loan was just considered today. When that loan package was drawn up, there was no covid-19 pandemic.

Go and read up the history of the loan. The initial loan FG sought approval for was $30bn from the Saraki led senate and only $7.3bn was approved from the loan. The rest were just reintroduced last year ending for consideration by the new senate.
It's not about conflating anything.

Like I said we are merely fortunate this disease has not spread badly enough to make our healthcare system look even worse than it is now.

We have a long history of squandering resources and prioritizing horribly.

Corona or no Corona. How does a country like Nigeria have so few ventilators.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:22pm On Apr 02, 2020
Melvyn11:

Tesla doesn't produce ventilators. He bought them from an open auction market in China.

He is using it for CSR then. He must be shipping straight from China, cos I'm pretty certain US will not allow ventilator leave their shores at this moment.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:23pm On Apr 02, 2020
Ibime:


What if the family refuse post mortem?

The family will handle the body themselves. In the hospitals, it has become a standing rule that every corpse be tested for COVID-19
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 8:23pm On Apr 02, 2020
elrony:


I don't think it's a lie tho, especially on the Ikotun part Odizeey mentioned.

Just saw some video now, with them confirming the bagco sac of rice and bread was what Lagos State allocated to Ikotun LCDA to hand to some of the residents.


Omo that thing no go reach me for two weeks grin grin
No na. We just want to criticize govt. As if the government has done something substantial in the past to say them dey try.
Still baffles me how someone will call me a fool on top government matter grin Na them sod wen dey call am yahoo boy I dey vex for. That boy Na only link to yahoo Na the mail he open for N-power.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:23pm On Apr 02, 2020
hardeycute:
This is exactly what I'm saying. Who in the World with less than 500 confirmed cases go around begging for ventilators?

Ventilators is even going far. Ask how many hospitals have enough PPE for their workers for starters. Do we even pay attention to healthcare workers welfare

We should now applaud these jesters for laughable begging for equipment ahead of countries who arguably need it more.

Our standards are below sea level

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:24pm On Apr 02, 2020
Eruditor:


The family will handle the body themselves. In the hospitals, it has become a standing rule that every corpse be tested for COVID-19

Ok, so you will agree that deaths at home could be underreported?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:25pm On Apr 02, 2020
Melvyn11:

Tesla doesn't produce ventilators. He bought them from an open auction market in China.

Actually, Telsa produced them. The car manufacturers are doing so in the US to help FG effort. Even MIT released a how-to video with their own invention for makeshift ventilators.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:27pm On Apr 02, 2020
Ibime:


Ok, so you will agree that deaths at home could be underreported?

It could be if families were rejecting the tests. There is no such case in the US because they know the implication to members of the household that tended to the dead person.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:28pm On Apr 02, 2020
Please Innoson can't produce ventilators don't be deceived guys. He doesn't have the equipment or even the expertise. That's bullshit from him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:30pm On Apr 02, 2020
Melvyn11:
Please Innoson can't produce ventilators don't be deceived guys. He doesn't have the equipment or even the expertise. That's bullshit from him.

Even the Elon Musk ventilators is a pure scam. Come to find out they are common snoring machines. Read this


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/dfc197c2-61ed-4cd6-8cb4-0ac865a47e69
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:31pm On Apr 02, 2020
A40:
It's not about conflating anything.

Like I said we are merely fortunate this disease has not spread badly enough to make our healthcare system look even worse than it is now.

We have a long history of squandering resources and prioritizing horribly.

Corona or no Corona. How does a country like Nigeria have so few ventilators.

So because we have a long history of squandering resources, we shouldn’t ask for ventilators when someone has enough to give out? Because I’m not understanding your point gan gan.

The current reality is that we don’t have up to 500 ventilators in the whole country, maybe we should wait till people starts dieing before we start looking for where to get ventilators.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 8:32pm On Apr 02, 2020
Eruditor:


The family will handle the body themselves. In the hospitals, it has become a standing rule that every corpse be tested for COVID-19

100% correct. Every single one of them.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:33pm On Apr 02, 2020
Eruditor:


Actually, Telsa produced them. The car manufacturers are doing so in the US to help FG effort. Even MIT released a how-to video with their own invention for makeshift ventilators.
He didn't. He said it in his interview that he bought them from China in bulk. Those companies are producing CPAP devices not ventilators. Only GM are producing ventilators because they partnered with a company that already produces ventilators. The goal of the partnership was to leverage GM's supply chain and manufacturing capacity. No other ones are doing so.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:34pm On Apr 02, 2020
Ibime:


Even the Elon Musk ventilators is a pure scam. Come to find out they are common snoring machines. Read this

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/04/01/1585782924000/Elon-Musk-promised-ventilators--These-are-BPAP-machines-/

Can you imagine. I wonder what would be their defense now

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:38pm On Apr 02, 2020
Ibime:


Even the Elon Musk ventilators is a pure scam. Come to find out they are common snoring machines. Read this


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/dfc197c2-61ed-4cd6-8cb4-0ac865a47e69
That's what I just told Eruditor. The machines most companies are producing right now CPAP devices. You can't just wake up and start producing ventilators that's why I knew Innoson was saying rubbish. Retooling a factory to produce a completely different product, especially one for the medical industry, takes a couple months minimum.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:39pm On Apr 02, 2020
larride:


So because we have a long history of squandering resources, we shouldn’t ask for ventilators when someone has enough to give out? Because I’m not understanding your point gan gan.

The current reality is that we don’t have up to 500 ventilators in the whole country, maybe we should wait till people starts dieing before we start looking for where to get ventilators.
You people always find a way to defend every reactive and terrible lack of planning and resource management by this administration

You can choose to ask but don't expect not to be dragged by the wrapper for your previous indiscretions. Why is this so hard to understand?

People did not start dying today due to lack of ventilators or other essential health equipment, so I don't know if you expect us to start doing cartwheels just because we begged an individual to help us with ventilators, ventilators that 50 other countries are likely vying for

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:39pm On Apr 02, 2020
A40:
Can you imagine. I wonder what would be their defense now

Maybe FG pulled the tweet after realising Elon was doing a G-boy move.

I expect many Nigerian Governors to now copy this move, importing these cheap snoring machine for $800 from China and calling it ventilator.

Elon Musk is a real African. Thunder fire him dia for playing politics with such a serious situation

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 8:45pm On Apr 02, 2020
A40:
It's not about conflating anything.

Like I said we are merely fortunate this disease has not spread badly enough to make our healthcare system look even worse than it is now.

We have a long history of squandering resources and prioritizing horribly.

Corona or no Corona. How does a country like Nigeria have so few ventilators.
Exactly the same question I asked.

They are saying if us has been beaten who us Nigeria.

My question is how many ventilators do you have first? They have in thousands. We have less than 200
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:47pm On Apr 02, 2020
Ibime:


Maybe FG pulled the tweet after realising Elon was doing a G-boy move.

I expect many Nigerian Governors to now copy this move, importing these cheap snoring machine for $800 from China and calling it ventilator.

Elon Musk is a real African. Thunder fire him dia for playing politics with such a serious situation
Lool shebi na South African boy.

I can't believe people were online defending this shameless begging. What were the actual odds of us getting the equipment assuming it was genuine.

Let's hope this virus does not spread and show us just how terrible this government has really been with its institutionalized medical tourism
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 8:47pm On Apr 02, 2020
Ibime:
My colleague who sits in the office adjoining mine was tested 3 days ago and came back positive yesterday. He shares that office.with another guy who has been off for two weeks with a temperature etc but yet to be tested. I am always in that office laughing and joking with them, and vice-versa.

I'm hoping some light headedness I was feeling two weeks was the same thing. I got that feeling I get when I suspect Malaria is coming like my immune system is gearing up for action. That same week my daughter came down with fever of 38.6 and requested to go to sleep straight from school. By next morning.she was bouncing around.

Here's hoping I have already caught the shït and my immune system ate it up like Pacman, same with my daughter. Govt should hurry up and release antibody test. If that were the case, I go dey go shop with reckless abandon ehn.

Are you a Keyworker or better still is your company providing an essential service?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 8:59pm On Apr 02, 2020
Melvyn11:
Please Innoson can't produce ventilators don't be deceived guys. He doesn't have the equipment or even the expertise. That's bullshit from him.

What is the expertise in producing ventilators?

Didn't you see the MIT videos on how to produce makeshift ventilators?

Didn't you read today of how two guys fixed the ventilators in the teaching hospital in Jos?

If you want to condemn anyone, constructively do so
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:01pm On Apr 02, 2020
chic2pimp:


Are you a Keyworker or better still is your company providing an essential service?

Yessir
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 9:02pm On Apr 02, 2020
A40:
You people always find a way to defend every reactive and terrible lack of planning and resource management by this administration

You can choose to ask but don't expect not to be dragged by the wrapper for your previous indiscretions. Why is this so hard to understand?

People did not start dying today due to lack of ventilators or other essential health equipment, so I don't know if you expect us to start doing cartwheels just because we begged an individual to help us with ventilators, ventilators that 50 other countries are likely vying for

Calm down bros.

I don’t think we have ever been in this situation before in our entire history as a country. I don’t think we have ever been in a situation where we lack ventilators in the country. afrodoc2 & Unlimited22 can shed more light on that.

This is not even about defending the govt, shouldn’t the govt be making efforts to get ventilators anywhere they can get? Is it until we have a spike in cases before they start looking for ventilators?

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