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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 3:32pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
We they try survive Corona and incoming hunger If they no stop lockdown
The hunger come dey pronounced more this period.


All we can do is to be there for each other this period; if I can get more than enough, I share small for my neighbor so that him and family go see food chop.

Naso we Welfare department for church clear the purse this period so we can fend for most of the members.

Omo, hunger dey the land o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:33pm On Apr 09, 2020
Skimpledawg:

The hunger come dey pronounced more this period.


All we can do is to be there for each other this period; if I can get more than enough, I share small for my neighbor so that him and family go see food chop.

Naso we Welfare department for church clear the purse this period so we can fend for most of the members.

Omo, hunger dey the land o.
Bros e plenty
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 3:39pm On Apr 09, 2020
odizeey:


Hallelujah. I don't Blame them.

The Spirit is working and a contrary Spirit is pushing back.
In the end there will be deliverance in Mount Zion.
Nothing surprising. There is always a reaction when the things of the spirit are at work.

'They' abhor it. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 3:56pm On Apr 09, 2020
Skimpledawg:

Nothing surprising. There is always a reaction when the things of the spirit are at work.

'They' abhor it. cheesy
cheesy it is well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 3:59pm On Apr 09, 2020
donjazet:


Once again, you are hand picking favourable parts that suit you.

However, I still can't tell if you have actually read the Bible whole and if you have, I can't understand the rationale behind you worshipping such a jealous, genocidal, wicked, inhumane character and mass murderer. I mean, if you had such a character today who did half of what the god of the Bible did, you will definitely call for his death much less think of worshipping the character.
Indeed this is what the Boko Haram extremists are doing. They are also following the instructions of that same God to the letter but you do condemn them don't you?
But if your daddy G.O. today called upon you today to pick up arms today and convert "souls" for Christ, wouldn't you be the first in line to do so??
I'll pick some verses of the Bible for you to prove my points.

Hosea 16;3
The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be smashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.”

In that verse above, because a group of people rebelled against him, he commanded a genocide against them, not sparing even innocent children, he further instructed that pregnant womens stomach be ripped apart and their unborn children be slain.

I want to reason deeply about this particular verse and tell me you are not offended that someone would be this inhumane, in today's term they are ruthless dictators. If you are not offended by this, then know that you possess the trait of a serial killer.


I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit— 2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

God’s Sovereign Choice
6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring. 9 For this was how the promise was stated: “At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.”

10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.


19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? 25 As he says in Hosea:

“I will call them ‘my people’ who are not my people;
and I will call her ‘my loved one’ who is not my loved one,”

26 and,

“In the very place where it was said to them,
‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘children of the living God.’”


27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel:

“Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea,
only the remnant will be saved.
28 For the Lord will carry out
his sentence on earth with speed and finality.”

29 It is just as Isaiah said previously:

“Unless the Lord Almighty
had left us descendants,
we would have become like Sodom,
we would have been like Gomorrah.”

Israel’s Unbelief
30 What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; 31 but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. 32 Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone. 33 As it is written:

“See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall,
and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.”
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 4:25pm On Apr 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


Is this any different from how people support their favorite in other parts of the world?

Nope. It isn’t different from how African parliaments overlook the misdeeds of their presidents.

And that’s where the problem is.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:45pm On Apr 09, 2020
Leyqute:
Nope. It isn’t different from how African parliaments overlook the misdeeds of their presidents.
And that’s where the problem is.

Politics all over the world is tribal, Everyone digs in. You pick a side and never admit fault with your side.

If Buhari is pissing on peoples head, some will see it as baptism of the Holy ghost

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:51pm On Apr 09, 2020
ornicus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugLbotr1RuQ

Bill Maher is one Democrat that I like, And I watch his show on HBO every Friday night. Been doing that for about 9yrs now.

He is real unlike the fake wannabee woke people.

Even slavery as vile as it is, we need to put it in context, many cultures were doing it at that time and it was acceptable when you win a war, they kill all the men, the lucky ones especially women they take as domestic slaves or sex slaves

Many of our forefathers did it, What we should insist on is that slavery and other fallouts of it should not be done in these days anymore, not doing a prosecution of what happened 500yrs ago under different rules


If I come out for election, someone will come and say I am sexist catcalled a girl many yrs ago
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:32pm On Apr 09, 2020
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:53pm On Apr 09, 2020
What is behind the higher death rate of black people from Covid-19?

Death rate per 1,000 in New York is twice that of whites

Black people make up 30% of Chicago population yet 62% of deaths

We're seeing the same in London.

New York and New Jersey Governors blame it on socio-economic conditions eg black people having no choice but to work, and having to ride buses and trains thereby not observing social distancing. However a doctor I follow on YouTube I think hit the nail on the head by saying darker skin converts Vitamin D from the sun more slowly than lighter skin so black people generally have lower level of Vitamin D. Vitamin D of course is key to fighting off viruses.

Doctors in the house, what do you think?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:08pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:
What is behind the higher death rate of black people from Covid-19?

Death rate per 1,000 in New York is twice that of whites

Black people make up 30% of Chicago population yet 62% of deaths

We're seeing the same in London.

New York and New Jersey Governors blame it on socio-economic conditions eg black people having no choice but to work, and having to ride buses and trains thereby not observing social distancing. However a doctor I follow on YouTube I think hit the nail on the head by saying darker skin converts Vitamin D from the sun more slowly than lighter skin so black people generally have lower level of Vitamin D. Vitamin D of course is key to fighting off viruses.

Doctors in the house, what do you think?

It was also noticed in Louisiana, A Southern state that is quite sunny that Blacks make up 70% of the deaths while making 33% of the population

Another thing might be that Blacks have a lower standard of living in those places and might be more prone to diabetes and obesity.
Also, economic factors make pre-existing conditions among blacks even more fatal than for the average white

For economic or social reasons it might be easier for a non black to adopt a healthy vegetable and salad diet while blacks still have to eat mass produced chicken and soulfood
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 6:16pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:
What is behind the higher death rate of black people from Covid-19?

Death rate per 1,000 in New York is twice that of whites

Black people make up 30% of Chicago population yet 62% of deaths

We're seeing the same in London.

New York and New Jersey Governors blame it on socio-economic conditions eg black people having no choice but to work, and having to ride buses and trains thereby not observing social distancing. However a doctor I follow on YouTube I think hit the nail on the head by saying darker skin converts Vitamin D from the sun more slowly than lighter skin so black people generally have lower level of Vitamin D. Vitamin D of course is key to fighting off viruses.

Doctors in the house, what do you think?


Its just poor people. When Covid-19 hits the areas of the country populated primarily with poor whites the death toll will be just as bad.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:17pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:
What is behind the higher death rate of black people from Covid-19?

Death rate per 1,000 in New York is twice that of whites

Black people make up 30% of Chicago population yet 62% of deaths

We're seeing the same in London.

New York and New Jersey Governors blame it on socio-economic conditions eg black people having no choice but to work, and having to ride buses and trains thereby not observing social distancing. However a doctor I follow on YouTube I think hit the nail on the head by saying darker skin converts Vitamin D from the sun more slowly than lighter skin so black people generally have lower level of Vitamin D. Vitamin D of course is key to fighting off viruses.

Doctors in the house, what do you think?



It is all about the socio-economics. Who is more likely to have undiagnosed ischemic heart disease, obesity, poorly controlled diabetes mellitus, unhealthy diet high in calorie but poor in immune boosting substances?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:22pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:


It is all about the socio-economics. Who is more likely to have undiagnosed ischemic heart disease, obesity, poorly controlled diabetes mellitus, unhealthy diet high in calorie but poor in immune boosting substances?

Weird as we are seeing the opposite in naija. Maybe the real cure for covid19 is in agbo grin or maybe amala.hopefully those Chinese doctors will find out so we can monetise it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:23pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:


It is all about the socio-economics. Who is more likely to have undiagnosed ischemic heart disease, obesity, poorly controlled diabetes mellitus, unhealthy diet high in calorie but poor in immune boosting substances?

So you think the Vitamin D aspect is not as significant?

All the doctors that have died in UK so far are of darker skin. I think they have all these things you mentioned above.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:29pm On Apr 09, 2020
ornicus:


Weird as we are seeing the opposite in naija. Maybe the real cure for covid19 is in agbo grin or maybe amala.hopefully those Chinese doctors will find out so we can monetise it.

Are you seeing the same or is the virus just going around undetected. Indonesia apparently has massive spread going undetected as of present which should start to blow up in 2 weeks. We are seeing hundreds of dead bodies on the street in Ecuador but they are not reporting much officially. I say judge Naija in a few weeks time. Don't read anything into those official stats.

One thing we have to be mindful of in Africa is that even though our immune system is stronger and the weak among us have already died from other morbidities, we have higher incidence of HIV, and most of those are immunocompromised. The HIV+ in African populations alone can explode our fatality rates even though the rest of the population is fairly fit in comparison.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:34pm On Apr 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


It was also noticed in Louisiana, A Southern state that is quite sunny that Blacks make up 70% of the deaths while making 33% of the population

Another thing might be that Blacks have a lower standard of living in those places and might be more prone to diabetes and obesity.
Also, economic factors make pre-existing conditions among blacks even more fatal than for the average white

For economic or social reasons it might be easier for a non black to adopt a healthy vegetable and salad diet while blacks still have to eat mass produced chicken and soulfood


Make una take am easy for USA. How only una go dey declare 2,000 deaths per day forecast to peak at 5,000 by peak. Na only una waka come?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:37pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:


Are you seeing the same or is the virus just going around undetected. Indonesia apparently has massive spread going undetected as of present which should start to blow up in 2 weeks. We are seeing hundreds of dead bodies on the street in Ecuador but they are not reporting much officially. I say judge Naija in a few weeks time. Don't read anything into those official stats.

One thing we have to be mindful of in Africa is that even though our immune system is stronger and the weak among us have already died from other morbidities, we have higher incidence of HIV, and most of those are immunocompromised. The HIV+ in African populations alone can explode our fatality rates even though the rest of the population is fairly fit in comparison.
how can you judge naija in few weeks time again when we have been facing this since last month or are you saying the virus can stay for 3 weeks without showing symptoms

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:44pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:


So you think the Vitamin D aspect is not as significant?

All the doctors that have died in UK so far are of darker skin. I think they have all these things you mentioned above.

In my experience with how diseases kill generally, your comorbidities ( old age, heart disease, obesity, COPD, cancer, immunosuppression etc) are more significant than things like how much Vit D, Iron, or Calcium etc you have in your body.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:49pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
how can you judge naija in few weeks time again when we have been facing this since last month or are you saying the virus can stay for 3 weeks without showing symptoms

Index case in UK arrived since early Feb or even undetected arrivals in January. Na now things want red.

Italys' Lombardy region control textile industry and use thousañds of Chinese migrant workers who fly back and forth to Hubei province. They were probably first exposed in late December or early January, but na end of March wey things red.

One month is too short a time to judge spread. Things go move undetected until there is too much death to hide. No believe all that nonsense from NCDC. If a whole group of travellers from Ivory Coast to Osun could test positive, yet Ivory Coast is declaring next to nothing, then there is a lot going on undetected in Africa which will crystallize in few months.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:54pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:


Index case in UK arrived since early Feb or even undetected arrivals in January. Na now things want red.

Italys' Lombardy region control textile industry and use thousañds of Chinese migrant workers who fly back and forth to Hubei province. They were probably first exposed in late December or early January, but na end of March wey things red.

One month is too short a time to judge spread. Things go move undetected until there is too much death to hide.


https://www.nairaland.com/5783889/coronavirus-lagos-begins-door-to-door-search
That's why sanwoolu government will start door to door especially asymptomatic patients
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 7:01pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:



https://www.nairaland.com/5783889/coronavirus-lagos-begins-door-to-door-search
That's why sanwoolu government will start door to door especially asymptomatic patients

Door to door with questionnaires??

I was thinking it would even be door to door testing...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:15pm On Apr 09, 2020
thorrvik55:


Door to door with questionnaires??

I was thinking it would even be door to door testing...
I was thinking the same too but we don't have enough test kits to go round.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:16pm On Apr 09, 2020
thorrvik55:


Door to door with questionnaires??

I was thinking it would even be door to door testing...

grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:23pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:


Are you seeing the same or is the virus just going around undetected. Indonesia apparently has massive spread going undetected as of present which should start to blow up in 2 weeks. We are seeing hundreds of dead bodies on the street in Ecuador but they are not reporting much officially. I say judge Naija in a few weeks time. Don't read anything into those official stats.

One thing we have to be mindful of in Africa is that even though our immune system is stronger and the weak among us have already died from other morbidities, we have higher incidence of HIV, and most of those are immunocompromised. The HIV+ in African populations alone can explode our fatality rates even though the rest of the population is fairly fit in comparison.

It's not the stats Im reading, it's the absence of deaths.
Nigerians are not practicing any social distancing. We can't. This virus has been here since beginning of March. It has had enough time to spread. But people are not dying in the streets of Lagos yet. That is what I have been expecting but it simply hasn't happened

The moment anyone positive touched down in an airport, the spread from that one person... Customs will shake you down. You drop cash. That cash will travel between so many hands. You are moving your luggage. You drop cash again. Another round of hands. The people you interact with in the airport take danfo home. Five people per seat. A lot of them go to multi occupancy flats or face me I face you. The virus has been travelling among us for the last three weeks. Even Buhari, who I was 95% sure would catch it from kyari seems Hale and hearty. I don't know what it is. You are originally a maths guy, so what do you think the random variable is in a country with a life expectancy of 50?

Add our brothers in the east who would have been moving goods to sell during Xmas, and the virus may have been with us since December.

My index for measurement is not cases, it is deaths.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 7:31pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:
What is behind the higher death rate of black people from Covid-19?

Death rate per 1,000 in New York is twice that of whites

Black people make up 30% of Chicago population yet 62% of deaths

We're seeing the same in London.

New York and New Jersey Governors blame it on socio-economic conditions eg black people having no choice but to work, and having to ride buses and trains thereby not observing social distancing. However a doctor I follow on YouTube I think hit the nail on the head by saying darker skin converts Vitamin D from the sun more slowly than lighter skin so black people generally have lower level of Vitamin D. Vitamin D of course is key to fighting off viruses.

Doctors in the house, what do you think?



In the UK, socio economic conditions has a huge part to play in the discrepancy in figures but so does the Size of the population. London the epicentre of the outbreak in the UK has around 40% of people classified as being from a Black or Ethnic minority group so that is bound to affect the overall figures. London dominates the top ten boroughs with the highest amount of Covid 19 patients.

Cultural beliefs also plays a part too. For example we all know compared to their white counterparts, people of Black(Africans in particular) and South Asian origin tend to live in larger households. As we all know living in such close proximity to one another means the Virus will spread at a much faster rate . Now combine that with the fact that quite a huge portion of the at risk group comes from those Ethnic backgrounds then you realise it's a disaster waiting to happen.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 7:37pm On Apr 09, 2020
raumdeuter:
seankafor

You need to see this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/5783762/us-shares-relief-materials-nigerians
lol, this seems more like a soap opera to me..

What da fvck is going on? ;

Las las man no go kill himself cool

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:39pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:

Make una take am easy for USA. How only una go dey declare 2,000 deaths per day forecast to peak at 5,000 by peak. Na only una waka come?

Given the population of the US, that is to be expected and the thing never spread to other states sef. Also considering how congested parts of NYC can be

Imagine a high rise project building of almost 50 floors where everyone use 1 elevator, If 3 corona patients touch the button at 9am, do you know the number of people wey go don catch am from those

Also there are some people still believing this is a hoax, its overhyped and they cannot sit at home.

Students still went on Spring break and contacted the disease, I went to a store 2 weeks ago and they asked us to stay 6ft apart when going to the counter, One women on the queue was just "raking" about the mass hysteria, they didnt do for west nile, they didnt do for H1N1, how its like living in jail. I was wondering if her frustration is really with the isolation or that she cannot get in touch with her meth dealer

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:42pm On Apr 09, 2020
seankafor:
lol, this seems more like a soap opera to me..

What da fvck is going on? ;

Las las man no go kill himself cool

Shey na tramadol bottle dey for floor under your table so? grin grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 7:42pm On Apr 09, 2020
Ibime:


Index case in UK arrived since early Feb or even undetected arrivals in January. Na now things want red.

Italys' Lombardy region control textile industry and use thousañds of Chinese migrant workers who fly back and forth to Hubei province. They were probably first exposed in late December or early January, but na end of March wey things red.

One month is too short a time to judge spread. Things go move undetected until there is too much death to hide. No believe all that nonsense from NCDC. If a whole group of travellers from Ivory Coast to Osun could test positive, yet Ivory Coast is declaring next to nothing, then there is a lot going on undetected in Africa which will crystallize in few months.
oga the virus wont succeed in Africa.
We already have our own fair share of vices..

No be everything Africa go dey suffer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 7:43pm On Apr 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


Shey na tramadol bottle dey for floor under your table so? grin grin grin grin
lol..

I dont do drugs cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:44pm On Apr 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


Given the population of the US, that is to be expected and the thing never spread to other states sef. Also considering how congested parts of NYC can be

Imagine a high rise project building of almost 50 floors where everyone use 1 elevator, If 3 corona patients touch the button at 9am, do you know the number of people wey go don catch am from those

Also there are some people still believing this is a hoax, its overhyped and they cannot sit at home. I went to a store 2 weeks ago and they asked us to stay 6ft apart when going to the counter, One women on the queue was just "raking" about the mass hysteria, they didnt do for west nile, they didnt do for H1N1, how its like living in jail. I was wondering if her frustration is really with the isolation or that she cannot get in touch with her meth dealer

Must be toilet roll. I hear its the new meth

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