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forgiveness:
Who are Niger Deltans? Benin, Itshekiri, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Efki, Ibibibio, Ukwani, Ikwere, Ogoja, Oron, Yoruba, Igbo, Kalabari and Annang.

What is the population of each ethnic groups?

Which of them embrace education?

Out of these, Uhrobo, Itshekiri, Ukwani, Benin, Igbo and Yoruba go to school in large numbers. The rest, I don't think so.

What is their population combined?

These are the oldest schools in Nigeria. Where they empty?

Fourth bay College was established in the 19th century and the first student was from SW.

Nigeria's Oldest Secondary School


(1) Baptist Academy, Lagos : 1855
(2) CMS Grammar School, Lagos: 1859
(3) Methodist Boys High School, Lagos : 1878
(4) Methodist Girls High School, Lagos : 1879
(5) Hope Waddell Training Institute, Calabar: 1895
(6) Saint Annes School, Ibadan : 1896
(7) The old Wesley college, Elekuro (now Wesley college of science, Ibadan) : 1905
(cool Abeokuta Grammar School, Ogun : 1908
(9) Kings College , Lagos : 1909
(10) Alhuda College, Zaria : 1910
(11) Ijebu-Ode Grammar School, Ogun : 1913
(12) Eko Boys High School, Lagos : 1913
(13) Government Secondary School, Ilorin : 1914
(13) Government College Katsina-Ala : 1914
(14) Etinan Institute, Etinan, Akwa Ibom: 1915
(15) Ondo Boys High School, Ondo : 1919
How many doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects, journalist etc did North produce as at 1920?



See the picture of Kano in 1913 in the first picture. Compare it with Ibadan and Abeokuta in 1913 in the second and third pictures respectively. Which is more developed?

LegendHero:
I don’t want to start going round in circles anymore. Why are the Mexicans that much in USA and doing cheap labor? Why can’t USA rather go to Mexico to acquire farm lands to get the cheap labor instead? Can you see where you are wrong?

What do you even mean by the middle-belt? Are Kogi and Kwara Yorubas also included in your imaginary middle-belt? Last I heard Kwara is more educated and better than Plateau state in terms of socio-economic index. Correct me with real data if I’m wrong.

Lastly, how exactly are you Jos-Benue-Niger, etc better than the core North? Kaduna and Kano beats any city in the aforementioned states. Core-North especially Kano and Kaduna have more business men with greater economy than those middle belt states.

Besides education which I can say the middle-belt has, what else is there to show over that side. Are you not all living together like killers over there? One is a Muslim fanatics, the other part are Christian fanatics.

You’ve not shown much proof that you are 100miles ahead of those core-northerner you always tend to disparage. Even if you’re above them, it’s with a slight statistics.

Nowenuse:
During the military era, were Yoruba states not ruled by Hausa fulani rulers? Did that destroy or change the people living there?

Hausa fulanis are only ruling Kaduna because of Zaria, divide the state and who will be there?

Was an Ebira man not the governor of Yoruba majority Old Kwara state?
Are Fulanis not the kingmakers in Kwara state?

Jos is destroyed, but it looks better and even attracts more foreigners than all other Yoruba cities apart from Igbo economically controlled Lagos. And your filthy Yoruba people will still never leave Jos no matter how much they are killed.
Who is the joke on now?

myobjective:
You have crossed the line here. No plateau group can be compared to any Yoruba. You guys are an insignificant minority that doesn't count in the grand scheme of things.

Your Jos is not even better than Akure... Guy travelled more to have a better understanding of the country you live in.

LegendHero:
Ilorin is strictly a religious affair, why can't you guys just understand this?

How are the Fulanis controlling Kwara/Ilorin in the present dispensation. What is the power of the Fulanis on the Kwara/Ilorin architecture in general? Do they constitute the highest number of elected officials, political power, economic power, religious power, educational intellectuals, and etc. What exactly do you mean by controlling?

Nowenuse:
Seriously, I wonder why you guys take so much time and efforts to explain your cowardice of Ilorin, when u could have chanelled that effort into something that could have made more meaning.

No matter how u guys try to wish Ilorin away by speaking English, it will never ever go away.
Ilorin remains under the jurisdiction and subserviency of the Sokoto caliphate as long as there is an Emir there who is an extension of the Sokoto caliphate, full stop!


Many Northern minorities have broken out of these satanic Emirates and guess what, they did it with violence! That's some balls you guys are yet to develop.

Southern Kaduna people started revolting against Fulani Emirates in their midst from the 1987 Kafanchan riots down to the 1992 Zangon Kataf crisis where they made sure no Hausa fulani person survived from that town!
By the time they displayed their madness again in 2000 Sharia crisis, the Hausa fulani governor then had no option but to create their chiefdoms for them by force.

Is that not the same thing Sayawa people did in Tafawa Balewa? Go and tell any Fulani man that ties a bedsheet on his head to enter that town and go and do Emir again, he will slap you! Cos when Sayawa people descended on them in 2011, even the Emir district head then was chased away with his bedsheet on his head running for his life

Mubi Emir always sent subemirs to rule Michika town (Adamawa) and when the last one died and a new one was coming in, Michika boys dared him to come into the town if they will not behead him, the idiiot had to reverse back to Mubi with his bedsheet on his head and that is how till date no Fulani idiiot can enter Michika town to claim he wants to rule.
The indigenes coronated their own king even though the state govt has refused to recognize them. That is what is called BALLS.

That is why I laught at those who call my people weak because of fulani herdsmen hit and run tactics. The day all our tribes will unite and say enough is enough, that day will mark the beginning of the end of Nigeria .... And this I can promise everyone will happen in less than 4 years from now.

BoboNkiti19:
Lol I give up on you dude, go do bend-down select and collect it in your ass from your abusive father, no be my precious time you go waste.

MetaPhysical:
Ol boy which one is your tribe in middle belt?

LegendHero:
I don’t want to start going round in circles anymore. Why are the Mexicans that much in USA and doing cheap labor? Why can’t USA rather go to Mexico to acquire farm lands to get the cheap labor instead? Can you see where you are wrong?

What do you even mean by the middle-belt? Are Kogi and Kwara Yorubas also included in your imaginary middle-belt? Last I heard Kwara is more educated and better than Plateau state in terms of socio-economic index. Correct me with real data if I’m wrong.

Lastly, how exactly are you Jos-Benue-Niger, etc better than the core North? Kaduna and Kano beats any city in the aforementioned states. Core-North especially Kano and Kaduna have more business men with greater economy than those middle belt states.

Besides education which I can say the middle-belt has, what else is there to show over that side. Are you not all living together like killers over there? One is a Muslim fanatics, the other part are Christian fanatics.

You’ve not shown much proof that you are 100miles ahead of those core-northerner you always tend to disparage. Even if you’re above them, it’s with a slight statistics.

omonnakoda:
Decoration ko Garnishing ni
Who won Booker prize in 2019?

BoboNkiti19:
Those areas you mentioned are slums dude, why do you guys keep faking all these poshness when we have traveled and seen your region in its entirety? stop these nonsense abeg, only Lagos is the best thing you guys have got to offer.

BoboNkiti19:
What level of academic and intellectual achievements have you attained that the Igbos haven't already had in the bag? you do know we can go on about this for as long as possible, but when you are asked to bring your own facts, you start going off on a different tangent. How exactly are Igbos lagging behind you guys?

Grayoso:
Come back to the thread to see all others getting their azzes served up to them raw by the supremely enlightened Yorubas. Lol.

This is what happens when half-wits provoke the humble and gracious Yorubas to talk because they have taken our kindness, grace, humility and sophistication for weakness.

I see the argument for some, even if the proponents don't realize it, consist of trying to show Yorubas are all hype whereas they are just reacting to innate inferiority complex they have developed over what Yorubas show them daily on the ground that makes them go home in the evening hurting inside.

Coming online to peddle conjectures, half-truths and even preposterous lies is a way for some to feel they measure up.

Well, we are all awake now with nothing to do so let's carry on if some want another day of depression.

Nowenuse:
Do u know that almost every family in Lagos or urban southern Nigeria has at least someone who owns a business?

From boutique owners to Saloon owners, Cybercafes, Restaurants, Betting shops, Foodstuff shops & provision stores which you have 20 on every street, Spare part sellers, Phone accessories, Phone & recharge card sellers, small scale manufacturers like Sachet & bottled water & snacks like chips/popcorn, nylon/polythene manufacturers, tailors & fashion designers, butchers, beauticians, livestock rearers, road transporters, mechanics, vulcanizers, computer schools & centers, private education sector, market wholesalers & distributors, importers, food transporters e.t.c

Down to the lowest of the society like Head hawkers, Wheelbarrow hawkers, Roadside food & snacks preparers like Akara, Mama put, Wheelbarrow & truckpushers and all manners.

Can every family in Lagos have someone who is employed by the big industries in Lagos? But bros, not one family in Lagos will say they don't have someone involved in the SMEs!
In some families, everyone survives on SMEs. The father could be a driver, the mother has a restaurant, the first son is a Barber with a saloon and the daughter is selling recharge card.

You are saying there won't be unemployment in Lagos if SMEs were helpful? Take away SMEs from Lagos and see if we will not have the largest urban humanitarian crisis in the world.

Sometimes, you guys must not tell lies in a bid to defend your ethnic group....

How can any sane or rational Nigerian say that the big Industries employ more people than the SMEs?

MetaPhysical:


I hope you know this statistics of 4 out 5 states represent 80%

I bet you its Ibos in SS, Abuja and Lagos that put those places on the gay map.

More to come...

Covidodo:
This is an addition to your reply to the guy bro
Beans too..
But wait , aren't we eating before Nigeria in 1914

Somalia would be better than Arewa republic when shit hits the fan .
It would be easier for an elephant to pass through the eye of a needle than getting his utopian Middle belt republic and that's a fact

Imagine a lowly minority from the poorest region in Nigeria trying to disparage the great Yorubas

nisai:
Baba this is not necessary. Yorubas are not known for this, pls.

Idiataqueen:
Stupid country with stupid youths,see them arguing about their poverty stricken regions,as one region is France and the other region is sudan,as if these regions are not both in this country rule by demons in form of human,I will keep on saying it,in the next 20years Nigeria will still be the same, because of this rubbish they are doing now,fighting themselves instead to be fighting for developments,stupid youths.

Nowenuse:
Yorubas are doing intellectually well, but you people are not better than anyone else apart from Hausa fulanis when it comes to the love of knowledge and education.

Hausa fulanis are just the ones dragging everyone backward in this country and limiting other people's potentials.

Today, you cannot find a Middlebelt or Northern Christian Youth that is a full blown illiterate! Our Youth literacy is something like 99% right now! 30 years ago, it was not so, we were still dragging in the mudwater of Illiteracy with Hausa fulanis.

So, talking about intellect is bullshit to me.
The only thing you people have that I will agree with is the diaspora population! These ones can come in with their exposure and capital and invest massively in the region to bring development. That is the only thing I know my people don't have in significant number, however, we have now started traveling out!

See, I am part of a middlebelt movement and if not for this useless coronavirus lockdown, we want to begin massive exportation of some of our unique farm products to Western countries.
We want to establish better packaging industries for our products, better markets for our products cos we have naturally more potentials than any other part of West Africa.

Imagine only Plateau & Taraba state have a subtropical climate in West & central Africa! We can grow Tea, Apples, strawberries, Lavender, grapes and many other exotic meditarranean and subtropical products and end the importation of these things into West Africa. This is just a tip of what my group want to start doing this year.

So, Ogbeni, my people are not illiterate and anti-progressive like the Hausa fulanis. We can match Yorubas or any Southern group in development abilities. Our only problem is that we are not materialistic and this promotes slowness. This is not a very bad attribute as it has helped us with reduced crime rates, however we must work on it.

Covidodo:
But it is necessary for others to insult the great Yorubas abi
People like you are the problem of the Yorubas .
Shift make I see road jhor..

I fvcking hate spineless pacifists

Nowenuse:
Yorubas are doing intellectually well, but you people are not better than anyone else apart from Hausa fulanis when it comes to the love of knowledge and education.

Hausa fulanis are just the ones dragging everyone backward in this country and limiting other people's potentials.

Today, you cannot find a Middlebelt or Northern Christian Youth that is a full blown illiterate! Our Youth literacy is something like 99% right now! 30 years ago, it was not so, we were still dragging in the mudwater of Illiteracy with Hausa fulanis.

So, talking about intellect is bullshit to me.
The only thing you people have that I will agree with is the diaspora population! These ones can come in with their exposure and capital and invest massively in the region to bring development. That is the only thing I know my people don't have in significant number, however, we have now started traveling out!

See, I am part of a middlebelt movement and if not for this useless coronavirus lockdown, we want to begin massive exportation of some of our unique farm products to Western countries.
We want to establish better packaging industries for our products, better markets for our products cos we have naturally more potentials than any other part of West Africa.

Imagine only Plateau & Taraba state have a subtropical climate in West & central Africa! We can grow Tea, Apples, strawberries, Lavender, grapes and many other exotic meditarranean and subtropical products and end the importation of these things into West Africa. This is just a tip of what my group want to start doing this year.

So, Ogbeni, my people are not illiterate and anti-progressive like the Hausa fulanis. We can match Yorubas or any Southern group in development abilities. Our only problem is that we are not materialistic and this promotes slowness. This is not a very bad attribute as it has helped us with reduced crime rates, however we must work on it.

nisai:
Have I ever advised you against taking such stance against the Igbos? No bro because it's retaliatory against their campaign of calumny against us.

We should not castigate the whole of the middlebelt minorities because of the action or commentaries of one person from there. As long as we all are defending our tribe we should also remind one another when crossing the line bro. This is liberalism. This is what differentiates us from them, omoluabi ethos.

Pls

Covidodo:
And when did I become the spokesperson for the Yoruba race

Anyone who speaks ill of the Yorubas would be at the mercy of my koboko irrespective of religion , tribe or gender .

I don't do liberalism bro..

Oodua agbe wa oo

omonnakoda:
We don't have to shit together
We don't work to your timetable

We are not stupid like IPOB Ibohomosexuals, we think before we act

Nowenuse:
Honestly I forget.


Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria? Are we talking about states or cities? Were u sleeping when typing this?

Our people do not need to build storey buildings when land is available everywhere at a giveaway price and we do not have Omoniles & Owomidas terrorizing our people when building.


I talk down on Ibadan because 80% of it is slummish and dillapidated! The only thing is that it is big in size, hence the 20% good part of it can outsize the 50% good part of other smaller cities.


Lies lies and lies!


Are you this ignorant? Do u want to compare the aesthetic appeal of a city on a hill/mountains to a city on a flatland? Where everything is joint together?

Do you know how spacious our suburbs are from each other in Jos due to these rocks, hills, valleys & mountains?
The sad thing is that you cannot see these features from Google Earth.

If you don't know how much greenery and scenery contributes to the aesthetic appeal of a city, then you might as well go and ask for a refund of your school fees.



Which exclusive industry in Ibadan is as worth as Nasco group of companies in Jos at 460 million dollars?

Jos has a better social & nightlife than Ibadan in spite of the crisis. You can clearly see that from the high number of influential entertainers in Nigeria that have come from Jos.
That is not even something arguable.
Jos has a natural wildlife park that is integral to the city! None of such exists in West Africa.

Jos used to have the biggest ultramodern market in West Africa before the crisis destroyed it.

See, we have not taken time to do strong compilation of our people and industries as you Yorubas & Igbos have been doing here on nairaland from time immemorial. Be rest assured that when we do, we will be giving u a run for your money!

Besides, how exactly does Ibadan beat Jos in education and people? How?
My people living in the cities are far far neater than your people. Don't Yoruba women tie one wrapper for 2 weeks?

Who deviated? I am ever ready for a comparison. Open the thread and tag me!

We will compare both the nice areas and the slums.



You want to kill yourself right? If not for size, Kaduna should be comparing Lagos and not even Ibadan.

Covidodo:
Someone is finally hitting the nail on the head .
The nowenuse guy's delusion borders on the pathological .

What is the difference between the Hausa/Fulani he disparages and his tribe? The dude should first tell us his tribe before we take him seriously because the last time I checked Middle belt isn't a tribe .

Bro , when I was in UI, I had 2 classmates who were sponsored by one Ahmadu Bello Foundation. The two folks are Northern minorities from Nassarawa and Bauchi .
Aren't you Minority Northern groups enjoying the spill over of the Hausa/Fulani domination of Nigeria ??

Would people like Gowon and TY Danjuma have amounted to anything in Nigeria if not for the magnanimity of the Hausa/Fulani establishment ?
A bloody minority like TY Danjuma owns oil wells in ND. A luxury the owners of the oil doesn't even enjoy.

We should put things into the right perspective .

I've been following the guy's narratives on tribal composition of the North . He has told us how Bauchi , Taraba and Adamawa are not Hausa/Fulani land . Are those places different in Socio economic indices from the Muslim Fulani North ?? I don't think so

The middle belt also enjoys from the quota system and the absence of merit in our public space .
Bulk of the middle belt state are part of the so called ELDS that has entrenched mediocrity in our admission process in Nigeria .

So , wtf is Middle belt .
How do you plan to carve out a Christian only middle Belt republic in a very heterogeneous zone like the middle belt ??

People like TY Danjuma would rather die than allow folks like the delusional Nowenuse take his feeding bottle from him

You are wrong. It went beyond Oyo and extended to Ijebu, Abeokuta, Ibadan and Ilorin.

From Timbuktu, Islam was introduced to Yorubaland towards the close of the eigthteenth century (Johnson, 1966), Though the land of the Yorubas was known to the Muslim world probably before 1627, as a location where paganism is prevalent, Islam had no root in it (Fafunwa, 1991). Learned Islamic scholars formally brought Islam brought to Yorubaland through Ilorin in 1830. Some of these scholars made contacts with Ibadan, just about the time the town was established, and later with Ijebu-Ode and Abeokuta. Ilorin became a center of Islamic learning with large number of basic and advanced schools established to teach Islamic religion. Ilorin often received famous Islamic scholars from Katsina, Kano and other areas of the North-West. With the passage of time, Ibadan became a renowned center of excellence in Islamic education, with the construction of many mosques and Islamic schools to encourage spread o


However, we are talking about education in 1920.

How many Hausa Fulani were Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Architects, journslists etc in 1990?

[quote]Did Yorubas use Horses, chariots & Camels? How then could Yorubas have been traveling more than Hausas before 1920? Oga take am easy oo! Don't come and disgrace your people here by telling lies.

I am not saying civil service is useless, no, but in a very cosmopolitan and commercial state like Lagos, it's effect is very insignificant. Can Lagos State civil service employ 20% of Lagos state's population?

Nowenuse:
Chaghoury & Dangote are investing in Lagos because of the high money & human capital there, the high population and huge market and half of it are Non-Yorubas.
Why don't they go and invest in Ibadan, Iseyin or Iwo?

Make una nor worry now, Nigeria will divide in less than 10 years from now. We will witness all these things.

Nowenuse:
And these industries would not have been cited in Lagos if not for the monopolization of ports and the large cosmopolitan population of the city.

If Abuja was the one with the high population like Lagos, do u think most investors will invest in Lagos over Abuja?