₦airaland Forum

xpool:
Mumu comment, by mumu.
Even the market woman selling food stuff has become an important professional

Sharap then get them what they need to act as doctors

Because at this point the only thing they have got is knowledge of the field not equipment

Which is one sided

So if you cant provide them
Don't force them

Haha

Tinyemeka:
Stupid hypocrites.

See how they took out time to blow grammar here and there, without a single utterance about the reasons why the doctors are protesting.

Early this month, nurses protested lack of PPE available to protect them from Covid-19 and the CMD had the temerity to say it was just a handful nurses who were causing trouble.

Now it's resident doctors and the response is to rush to court and produce documents to show that they are essential workers of which they mustn't strike. Have their grievances been addressed? What do I know?

This is why I said before that the CMDs of many of our hospitals are incompetent for the job just like Ngige.
They use their political influence to get these positions and all they do is run down the hospitals and embezzle funds with impunity and they can't be held accountable because NMA will play politics with it.

They keep claiming that govt is funding the health care system enough but we never see the impact of the the little they are given and the politicians have come realise that they can't deal these CMD to account for the funds hence they excuse themselves and seek treatment abroad.

Nigeria my country !!! Pay the doctors quickly before thunder strike una.. they bought cars worth over 35 million naira for lazy and idle senators/house of rep. What more doctors risking their lives in the front line of this covid19 bullshit Haba create covid19 allowance for them (1mil - 1.5mil) and pay quickly or else !!!

KlynSoul:
Many times here, we have read how Doctors and health care workers could not attend to Suspected cases of Covid-19, because they don't have PPEs.
A patient even lost her life in UNTH.

Mr Poster and your fellow Concerned Citizens, why not channel this energy towatds the Government.

Let them Provide PPEs.
Let them appreciate the health workers, Health workers have families to take care of.

Don't waste your energy. The posters is a government worker.

Kobicove:
I believe the doctors are humane enough to know that this is not a good time to go on strike!

When pushed to the wall, you are left with very little option.

Enugu state is in hands of eledumare

Sportwin:
Sharap then get them what they need to act as doctors

Because at this point the only thing they have got is knowledge of the field not equipment

Which is one sided

So if you cant provide them
Don't force them

Shut up!
Read well, they did not talk about ppe.
Besides, how would you feel if at the time of war with another hostile country, Nigerian army decides to go on strike?
All they always ask for is upgrade on emoluments, and they don't love the profession.
I always insist they can't work with a covid19 patient without PPRs, that is certain.
Mumu, always read well

ChelseaDr:
They are not scared of covid-19, they are just asking for what is due to them...salary. Even the Bible stated that a worker deserves his wages. These people have families too.

Have you ever gone to kill a rattle snake with your bare hands, that is exactly what you expect these doctors to do, to confront covid-19 without personal protective equipments, haba guy, think about it.

Do you know in many hospitals today, patients still buy gloves for them to be seen? Tell the government to do the needful, if you are close to them.

How would you feel if Nigeria is in a war with a another country and soldiers decide to go on strike?
Doctors can go on strike anytime they want, but certainly not this time. All they agitate for always is their emolument, no love and passion for the job. Yes, I don't think any right thinking Nigeria will ever support the government on any issue, because they are useless.
But I am beginning to realise that we the masses are more useless and wicked than the politicians, because new politicians who were part of the masses, get into office and, yet no change.

Doctors going on strike this time, if they are not carefully the masses may begin to target them and their families.
Everybody is angry now and looking for who to take it out on

Ordinary we the Enugu people would have ignored this paid news but for the sake of the general public who may not have the opportunity of hearing from both sides.

The fact remains that when leaders who are be epitome of honesty, integrity and justice become people of dishonest and double standard, then the society is doomed as you will have medicore governance, propaganda as against facts as we can see from the writer.

On 26th March 2020, the Parklane Resident Doctors went on indefinite withdrawal of service as a result of poor salary and failed negotiations with the state government. However, that was called off the following day following a written approval from His Excellence the Executive Govornor of Enugu State. The letter promised to meet the demands of the doctors with the April 2020 Salary. The doctors called off the strike for interest of the good people of Enugu and to give His Excellence the benefit of doubt.

On 23rd of April 2020 the April salary was paid and the government did not fulfill her promise, rather 25% of their basic was added as COVID 19 allowance. 25% of the 70% CONMESS of 2009. They are not asking for any addition, just pay them the 2019 CONMESS as obtained in other Tertiary Health Institutions. The action of the withdrawal of service is so unfortunate. It is avoidable event solely in the hands of the government. It is more pitable that the government is playing politics in the hospital now we are facing this pandemic.

All hands must be on desk to fight this pandemic Enugu State is in the HANDS OF GOD

Poor doctors. Even the Nairaland medical bashers club is siding with the doctors and nurses which shows that the threat of corona is real. The doctors should go on strike.

About the essential services act, it is not similar to the military act. There is NO compulsion as it is not captured in the act. Any good and competent lawyer can quash this in the court of law. No medical worker should handle patients without full PPE and without salary being paid(how do they get to work without transport fare ?).

Igbo amaka. Later una go talk say Enugu get potential pass Oyo state

seedorfg:
The Doctors should please call of the strike, because we are now at a crucial time that their service is highly needed, and the government too should sort out any issues that is causing the strike.
The doctors are our essential helper now o...

It's not that simple, it could be an issue of no salary payment, no equipment or no protection. Right now we don't know but a doctor in this time period who isn't adequately protected is in serious trouble. Of course if patients don't recover at the appropriate time or at all their families will want to fight the doctors who are often expected to work magic and heal the sick.

Kobicove:
I believe the doctors are humane enough to know that this is not a good time to go on strike!

Well, I hope the Government knows this isn’t also the right time to turn a blind eye to the welfare of doctors.

Amudeneogu:
'Please, leave sentiments and go and settle the doctors pay them their salaries and provide them their working tools

Nwata Enugu! Ekenekwe m. Great contribution

OEPHIUS:
ASSOCIATION OF RESIDENT DOCTORS (ARD) ESUT TEACHING HOSPITAL PARKLANE ENUGU, THREAT TO EMBARK ON STRIKE

By the provisions of Section 31 (6) (a) of the Trade Union Act, Cap. T14, LFN, 2004, as amended by the Trade Union (Amendment) Act, No. 17 of 2005, it is unlawful for any person, trade union or employee that engage in the provision of essential services to take part in a strike or lockout or engage in conduct in contemplation or furtherance of a strike or lockout.

Section 7 (1) (b) (iv) of the Trade Dispute (Essential Services) Act, Cap. T9, LFN, 2010 clearly define essential service as any service in connection with hospitals, the treatment of the sick and the prevention of disease.

The Resident Doctors of University College Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu are engaged in rendering essential services within the contemplation of Section 48 (1) of the Trade Disputes Act, Cap. T8, LFN, 2004; Section 7 (1) (b) (iv) of the Trade Dispute (Essential Services) Act, Cap. T9, LFN, 2010 and 31 (6) (a) of the Trade Union Act, Cap. T14, LFN, 2004, as amended by the Trade Union (Amendment) Act, No. 17 of 2005. Consequently, they are not in law entitled to embark or threaten to embark on any strike.

In 2010, in SUIT NO. NIC/EN/16/2010; A-G ENUGU STATE V. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT GENERAL AND DENTAL PRACTITIONERS (NAGMDP) AND ANOR, the National Industrial Court on the 20th of June, 2011 held that service in a hospital is essential service under the Nigerian Law.

Similarly, in NICN/EN/226/2013; UNIVERSITY COLLEGE TEACHING HOSPITAL BOARD V. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF RESIDENT DOCTORS OF NIGERIA & 2 ORS, the National Industrial Court on the 23rd June, 2014 decided that the Resident Doctors are engaged in the provision of essential services and cannot take part in any strike, or engage in any conduct in contemplation or furtherance of any strike/industrial action.

Out of abundance of caution, when the Association of Resident Doctors (ARD) ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu, by a letter dated 28th day of February, 2020 threatened to embark on industrial action, the Enugu State Government in SUIT NO: NIC/EN/16/2020, ENUGU STATE GOVERNMENT V. DR. EDOGA CHIME EMMANUEL & ANOR took our Originating Summons on the 2nd of March, 2020 for the court to determine whether in view of the extant laws and earlier decisions the Resident Doctors can embark on a strike action.

Following the Originating Summons, Motion Ex Parte and Motion on Notice filed and upon the hearing of the Motion Ex Parte, the National Industrial Court sitting in Enugu on 2nd March, 2020 issued an order restraining the Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu from embarking on any strike pending the determination of the Motion on Notice. That order has been duly served on the representatives of the Resident Doctors and they have filed their response to the court processes served on them through their lawyer. That case is still pending in court and coming up for hearing on the 20th of May, 2020.

We, therefore, view with dismay the threat by the same Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu to embark on strike in the face of this Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) pandemic, worst still when there have been decisions of court against such an action and subsisting order of injunction restraining the Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu from embarking on strike/industrial action.

The threat to embark on strike made by the Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu in the face of the subsisting order of a court of competent jurisdiction is unlawful and unjust. A subsisting Court order must be obeyed until it is set aside.

CONCERNED ENUGU STATE CITIZENS

It's illegal for them to down tools but it's not illegal for the governor to feed fat and refuse to pay then what's due them??

The way the public hate doctors is alarming, in face of this pandemic that several doctors has died already a governor would refuse to do it's constitutional job and someone who they pay petty amount would come and write trash that is for concerned citizens, total rubbish

Answer the the question is nothing.

Tinyemeka:
Stupid hypocrites.

See how they took out time to blow grammar here and there, without a single utterance about the reasons why the doctors are protesting.

Early this month, nurses protested lack of PPE available to protect them from Covid-19 and the CMD had the temerity to say it was just a handful nurses who were causing trouble.

Now it's resident doctors and the response is to rush to court and produce documents to show that they are essential workers of which they mustn't strike. Have their grievances been addressed? What do I know?

Healthcare workers hungry? lol smh

Orelafintun:
Let the government pay them. Don't you know the risk they face on daily basis. If you have relatives that are healthcare workers you won't be talking like this.
Government should be responsible for whatever happens to the populace. This is not the time for health care workers to be hungry or else their immunity will be low to fight infections.

You said my mind

xpool:
Shut up!
Read well, they did not talk about ppe.
Besides, how would you feel if at the time of war with another hostile country, Nigerian army decides to go on strike?
All they always ask for is upgrade on emoluments, and they don't love the profession.
I always insist they can't work with a covid19 patient without PPRs, that is certain.
Mumu, always read well

No one should ever compare Soldiers and doctors again. I have never heard a soldier go on strike during war.

OEPHIUS:
ASSOCIATION OF RESIDENT DOCTORS (ARD) ESUT TEACHING HOSPITAL PARKLANE ENUGU, THREAT TO EMBARK ON STRIKE

By the provisions of Section 31 (6) (a) of the Trade Union Act, Cap. T14, LFN, 2004, as amended by the Trade Union (Amendment) Act, No. 17 of 2005, it is unlawful for any person, trade union or employee that engage in the provision of essential services to take part in a strike or lockout or engage in conduct in contemplation or furtherance of a strike or lockout.

Section 7 (1) (b) (iv) of the Trade Dispute (Essential Services) Act, Cap. T9, LFN, 2010 clearly define essential service as any service in connection with hospitals, the treatment of the sick and the prevention of disease.

The Resident Doctors of University College Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu are engaged in rendering essential services within the contemplation of Section 48 (1) of the Trade Disputes Act, Cap. T8, LFN, 2004; Section 7 (1) (b) (iv) of the Trade Dispute (Essential Services) Act, Cap. T9, LFN, 2010 and 31 (6) (a) of the Trade Union Act, Cap. T14, LFN, 2004, as amended by the Trade Union (Amendment) Act, No. 17 of 2005. Consequently, they are not in law entitled to embark or threaten to embark on any strike.

In 2010, in SUIT NO. NIC/EN/16/2010; A-G ENUGU STATE V. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT GENERAL AND DENTAL PRACTITIONERS (NAGMDP) AND ANOR, the National Industrial Court on the 20th of June, 2011 held that service in a hospital is essential service under the Nigerian Law.

Similarly, in NICN/EN/226/2013; UNIVERSITY COLLEGE TEACHING HOSPITAL BOARD V. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF RESIDENT DOCTORS OF NIGERIA & 2 ORS, the National Industrial Court on the 23rd June, 2014 decided that the Resident Doctors are engaged in the provision of essential services and cannot take part in any strike, or engage in any conduct in contemplation or furtherance of any strike/industrial action.

Out of abundance of caution, when the Association of Resident Doctors (ARD) ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu, by a letter dated 28th day of February, 2020 threatened to embark on industrial action, the Enugu State Government in SUIT NO: NIC/EN/16/2020, ENUGU STATE GOVERNMENT V. DR. EDOGA CHIME EMMANUEL & ANOR took our Originating Summons on the 2nd of March, 2020 for the court to determine whether in view of the extant laws and earlier decisions the Resident Doctors can embark on a strike action.

Following the Originating Summons, Motion Ex Parte and Motion on Notice filed and upon the hearing of the Motion Ex Parte, the National Industrial Court sitting in Enugu on 2nd March, 2020 issued an order restraining the Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu from embarking on any strike pending the determination of the Motion on Notice. That order has been duly served on the representatives of the Resident Doctors and they have filed their response to the court processes served on them through their lawyer. That case is still pending in court and coming up for hearing on the 20th of May, 2020.

We, therefore, view with dismay the threat by the same Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu to embark on strike in the face of this Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) pandemic, worst still when there have been decisions of court against such an action and subsisting order of injunction restraining the Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu from embarking on strike/industrial action.

The threat to embark on strike made by the Resident Doctors, ESUT Teaching Hospital Parklane Enugu in the face of the subsisting order of a court of competent jurisdiction is unlawful and unjust. A subsisting Court order must be obeyed until it is set aside.

CONCERNED ENUGU STATE CITIZENS

xpool:
How would you feel if Nigeria is in a war with a another country and soldiers decide to go on strike?
Doctors can go on strike anytime they want, but certainly not this time. All they agitate for always is their emolument, no love and passion for the job. Yes, I don't think any right thinking Nigeria will ever support the government on any issue, because they are useless.
But I am beginning to realise that we the masses are more useless and wicked than the politicians, because new politicians who were part of the masses, get into office and, yet no change.

Doctors going on strike this time, if they are not carefully the masses may begin to target them and their families.
Everybody is angry now and looking for who to take it out on

This has to be the most silly thing I have ever read on nairaland.

Utter nonsense you are spewing here.

A soldier cannot.go on strike. The laws binding the soldiers are not the same laws binding the civilian. Get that into your head.


Love and passion will feed thier family and pay thier Bill's abi?

The masses ate the problem because we dont face the government and here you are planning to target doctors and thier families for wanting what is thiers right.

A right to live , a right to work in a conducive environment to provide the best care. A right to be protected from death even though you walk across its path. All you can say is save me if you die in the act then good riddance.

Some of you have issues

OEPHIUS aka Louis Amoke, the paid agent!

I know this is how you take care of your wife and children. By promoting lies!

Tinyemeka:
Stupid hypocrites.

See how they took out time to blow grammar here and there, without a single utterance about the reasons why the doctors are protesting.

Early this month, nurses protested lack of PPE available to protect them from Covid-19 and the CMD had the temerity to say it was just a handful nurses who were causing trouble.

Now it's resident doctors and the response is to rush to court and produce documents to show that they are essential workers of which they mustn't strike. Have their grievances been addressed? What do I know?

God bless you. I was looking all through the post to find out the doctors' grieviances

Correcto:
You said my mind

it is like you don't know how many soldiers go MIA on the battlefield in borno state.

I was lucky enough to talk with some of them. One was on an okada I embarked on, he escaped from Boko Haram with his life when he heard that his family had not been paid battle allowance for 9 months. He went MIA and came home to his family in Lagos and saw that his children were out of school for a term and the landlord was about to evict them.

He also had plans to go to his school for his HND.
So he had to do okada work in order to feed his family.


Until sanwo-olu banned okada. And now this coronavirus

armadeo:
This has to be the most silly thing I have ever read on nairaland.

Utter nonsense you are spewing here.

A soldier cannot.go on strike. The laws binding the soldiers are not the same laws binding the civilian. Get that into your head.


Love and passion will feed thier family and pay thier Bill's abi?

The masses ate the problem because we dont face the government and here you are planning to target doctors and thier families for wanting what is thiers right.

A right to live , a right to work in a conducive environment to provide the best care. A right to be protected from death even though you walk across its path. All you can say is save me if you die in the act then good riddance.

Some of you have issues

I will ignore your African emotion.
A soldier can not go on strike abi, because he is not a human being? Because you want him to protect you and your family, even with understocked armoury.
You don't think twice before uttering, do you?
NMA is not involved, and they are talking about existing issues with their state government, not the general issue you were saying. Read, Blackman read before conclusion.

xpool:
I will ignore your African emotion.
A soldier can not go on strike abi, because he is not a human being? Because you want him to protect you and your family, even with understocked armoury.
You don't think twice before uttering, do you?
NMA is not involved, and they are talking about existing issues with their state government, not the general issue you were saying. Read, Blackman read before conclusion.

I believe that you can do better than this, how can you be supporting a government that can not be hold by it's words. The government promised them that they will be paid full CONMESS as it is obtainable by other Tertiary Health Institutions but failed. Please do your research well before commenting.

Oga, go tell that soup licking governor to pay them and stop disturbing our peace.

You don't know it's criminal to renege on agreements?

Boss2985:
I believe that you can do better than this, how can you be supporting a government that can not be hold by it's words. The government promised them that they will be paid full CONMESS as it is obtainable by other Tertiary Health Institutions but failed. Please do your research well before commenting.

Exactly what happens when you allow emotions to becloud your brain;; you will start to think one way like Fela sang.

Breaching intellectual procedure in forcing your one direction thought with false accusation, does not make your pointless point valid.

Where was it written that I have vouched for the government?
All I said was, and still maintain is that their planned strike is I'll timed and could tantamount to treason. Take it or leave it.
If they were embarking to down tools because of lack of PPEs, it would have been on only covid19 cases. And as usual, we all would be fighting for them.
But I no disturb you o, you can back them to go on strike if na your state, then watch and see.

Hope xpool can go through this

Ordinary we the Enugu people would have ignored this paid news but for the sake of the general public who may not have the opportunity of hearing from both sides.

The fact remains that when leaders who are be epitome of honesty, integrity and justice become people of dishonest and double standard, then the society is doomed as you will have medicore governance, propaganda as against facts as we can see from the writer.

On 26th March 2020, the Parklane Resident Doctors went on indefinite withdrawal of service as a result of poor salary and failed negotiations with the state government. However, that was called off the following day following a written approval from His Excellence the Executive Govornor of Enugu State. The letter promised to meet the demands of the doctors with the April 2020 Salary. The doctors called off the strike for interest of the good people of Enugu and to give His Excellence the benefit of doubt.

On 23rd of April 2020 the April salary was paid and the government did not fulfill her promise, rather 25% of their basic was added as COVID 19 allowance. 25% of the 70% CONMESS of 2009. They are not asking for any addition, just pay them the 2019 CONMESS as obtained in other Tertiary Health Institutions. The action of the withdrawal of service is so unfortunate. It is avoidable event solely in the hands of the government. It is more pitable that the government is playing politics in the hospital now we are facing this pandemic.

All hands must be on desk to fight this pandemic Enugu State is in the HANDS OF GOD

xpool:
How would you feel if Nigeria is in a war with a another country and soldiers decide to go on strike?
Doctors can go on strike anytime they want, but certainly not this time. All they agitate for always is their emolument, no love and passion for the job. Yes, I don't think any right thinking Nigeria will ever support the government on any issue, because they are useless.
But I am beginning to realise that we the masses are more useless and wicked than the politicians, because new politicians who were part of the masses, get into office and, yet no change.

Doctors going on strike this time, if they are not carefully the masses may begin to target them and their families.
Everybody is angry now and looking for who to take it out on

The soldiers fighting boko haram have been protesting, General Adeniyi was recently redeployed.

You don't send a child to go catch that stinking rat without providing him water to wash his hands.

Doctors like Soldiers and other essential service providers are humans too with families. Has it ever bordered you that in most of our hospitals today, a patient has to provide gloves for him/her to be examined.

Would you rather our health workers go attend to covid-19 patients with their bare hands, that will be suicidal. Health workers don't have immunity against covid-19.

The government at all levels should be held responsible for the mess in our health sector, not the doctors, not the health workers.

Again, I refuse to be associated with the "we" that are useless.

Lastly, there is no emergency in pandemic.

Kobicove:
I believe the doctors are humane enough to know that this is not a good time to go on strike!

Id rather they go in strike than appear for work and kill patients through their nonchalant attitude. Lets know for real that they are not interested in doing the work

seXytOhbAd:
Poor doctors. Even the Nairaland medical bashers club is siding with the doctors and nurses which shows that the threat of corona is real. The doctors should go on strike.

About the essential services act, it is not similar to the military act. There is NO compulsion as it is not captured in the act. Any good and competent lawyer can quash this in the court of law. No medical worker should handle patients without full PPE and without salary being paid(how do they get to work without transport fare ?).

Igbo amaka. Later una go talk say Enugu get potential pass Oyo state

Even if theu give them full PPE they will still find something to grumble about and not do the job. Sadly we may never know because the PPE is nowhere

xpool:
How would you feel if Nigeria is in a war with a another country and soldiers decide to go on strike?
Doctors can go on strike anytime they want, but certainly not this time. All they agitate for always is their emolument, no love and passion for the job. Yes, I don't think any right thinking Nigeria will ever support the government on any issue, because they are useless.
But I am beginning to realise that we the masses are more useless and wicked than the politicians, because new politicians who were part of the masses, get into office and, yet no change.

Doctors going on strike this time, if they are not carefully the masses may begin to target them and their families.
Everybody is angry now and looking for who to take it out on

The Holy Book tells us that a worker deserves his wages. You telling us that the masses may begin to target them and their families is uncalled for. Why should the masses target them? Because they are asking the government to pay them what their colleagues in other Tertiary Health Institutions are collecting.

Maybe it may interest you to know that a Resident Doctor as highly skilled as he may be has no Permanent job, No Pension, No Gratuity, No Promotion, No Pay off, what they are asking the government is to pay them the full CONMESS as obtainable in other Tertiary Health Institutions.
If they are ESSENTIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, then treat them with ESSENTIAL PRIORITY as the issue of strike will never come up again.