Melvyn11:

Your Lampard best season has been dissected and he has been shown to be nothing more than a penalty merchant. 22 league goals with 10 awoof penalties.
Look for somebody else who judge midfielders by amount of goals scored I have told you several times.

Very overrated season Chelsea fans will not stop disturbing us with. Fabregas that same season dropped 12goals with 15assist in just 27 matches. Yeye lampard.

Expert17:


Scholes played with

Cantona
Sherringham
Yorke
Mark hughes
Andy cole
Ole solkjear
Van nistelrooy
Wayne rooney
Beckham
Giggs
Ronaldo
Van persie
Berbatov


Lampard played with

Drogba
Anelka
Crespo (flop)
Shhevchenko(flop)
Torres (Flop)
Malouda
Joe cole


Their is big difference. Scholes role is to dictate and control the tempo of play,..not to drag PK and Freekick with strikers

Don't forget corner kicks too.

Greatihex:
which kind talk be this nah, oga Ibime. So, pelle should be starting a completely washed up Lampard just because he can pop up 1 or 2 goals by running to the front of goal?

Lampard that lost confidence and could not hold ball for 2 seconds. How will he run the midfield, then with young and energetic players against him. Nawao you o. This your Lampard love self.

Stop talking rubbish my friend. Because you refuse to engage your brain when watching football does not mean everyone is foolish when watching football.

Results speak for themselves and City won 9 and drew 1 of the 10 games Lampard started. Even the games he didn't start but was given decent minutes, he rescued points for City eg against Chelsea.

Every manager has right to prioritize the future of the club, but Pellegrini lost that league in the games he relegated Lampard to the periphery, not when Lampard was on the pitch.

There is a reason City fans adopted him as a club favourite despite only 1 season there in his twilight. If you don't have brain to watch football properly, just keep quiet and let those who know what they are watching summarise for you.

rationalmind:


This is why I stopped engaging in pointless arguments online. Even in the face of evidence, people like you will only dance around and repeat the initial argument like a broken record.

In the last 6 years, no midfielder has scored more than 12 non penalty goals in the premier league. The only midfielder to score more had 7 penalties.

If you extend it further to 10 years, only Yaya Toure has ever scored more than 12 non penalty goals.

So let me rephrase your argument so you see how ridiculous it sounds. "Ten years since Lampard the penalty merchant last scored 12 non penalty goals, only one midfielder has ever scored more."

Melvyn11 and Swissh are fools. They don't know how to interrogate data properly.

The Aguero and Salah challenging for golden boot are doing so with like 15 clean goals and 5 or 6 penalties.

They think it's beans for midfielder to score that amount clean. Maybe Messi and Ronaldo are the ones confusing them.

So Man city lost the league because Lampard was benched...........

A Newbie on this Thread needs to calmly follow and study for a while before jumping on Discourse, but the Dude thinks he's smart enough to engaging Everyone here..... LMAO!

Dem go use OK to KO you las las.

Ibeme:


Melvyn11 and Swissh are fools. They don't know how to interrogate data properly.

The Aguero and Salah challenging for golden boot are doing so with like 15 clean goals and 5 or 6 penalties.

They think it's beans for midfielder to score that amount clean. Maybe Messi and Ronaldo are the ones confusing them.

You brought lampard best ever league season which was 22 goals with 10penalties. You asked to remove the pks And he was left with 12 goals a . tally other midfielders (fabregas, Silva etc) has reached. So what is so exceptional about that seaon that you wont stop shouting about. Stop making noise with your useless lampard the penalty merchant. infact albino scholes best league season without pks was 14 a tally which lampard never achieved.

Oasis007:


A Newbie on this Thread needs to calmly follow and study for a while before jumping on Discourse, but the Dude thinks he's smart enough to engaging Everyone here..... LMAO!

Dem go use OK to KO you las las.

Godx wan kill the guy with KK

Expert17:


Courtois played well for Athletico Madrid not Real Madrid....go and watch again, ..dis time with a relaxed mind.

He has the most clean sheets in la liga, he made crucial saves not carry along, he's one of the reasons for their clean sheets in el clasico. You should watch him bro, at first he was a flop I agree.

Ibeme:


Good and succinct summary. Sometimes being a great player includes intangibles such as personality, scoring goals when unexpected etc. He does that. But he is not a great defender by any stretch of imagination.

Well put. Kudos.

Ibeme:


Stop talking rubbish my friend. Because you refuse to engage your brain when watching football does not mean everyone is foolish when watching football.

Results speak for themselves and City won 9 and drew 1 of the 10 games Lampard started. Even the games he didn't start but was given decent minutes, he rescued points for City eg against Chelsea.

Every manager has right to prioritize the future of the club, but Pellegrini lost that league in the games he relegated Lampard to the periphery, not when Lampard was on the pitch.

There is a reason City fans adopted him as a club favourite despite only 1 season there in his twilight. If you don't have brain to watch football properly, just keep quiet and let those who know what they are watching summarise for you.

The way you bring narratives from no where baffles me.

Lampard was so good at that age that he could guarantee league win, yet Mourinho had to chase him away to America with Fabregas (which mourinho described as the last piece of his puzzle) so that Chelsea could win the league.


Thank God that Pellegrini knows that the first job of a CM is to control midfield play before anything goals. That is why he usually brought in Lampard when legs were tired to come get the goals, which was the only thing left in his arsenal at that time.

This your narrative of city losing the league because Lampard was benched is one of your worst narratives.

The same Lampard that always looked like trembling if the ball is passed to him. Nigga will always release the pass with the speed of light so that small boys will not come and meet him with the ball is the person that you want a manager to be starting as a midfield achor just because he still knows how to score goals.

No manager in his right senses, who is serious to win title will be starting Lampard at that time.

thorrvik55:


For Belgium though, he plays better higher up the pitch than in midfield. That's why I said him playing in midfield at City is perfect for him because of Pep's style of play but any other coach might struggle to fit him in midfield.

leave formation that you see, kdb plays the same thing he plays for City at Belgium. He plays as a cm with freedom to roam all over the pitch.

nihilistjnr:


KDB imo is just more well rounded as a midfielder than Lampard was.

He seems faster, bigger, stronger, and can run for longer than Lampard.

I do think KDB is probably thr best box-to-box midfielder in the history of the game.

He can give you a bit of everything, and that's why I feel hes better than Lampard for me.

I’d say KdB offers less defensively than Lampard. Mourinho would prefer Lampard to KDB.

Melvyn11:

You brought lampard best ever league season which was 22 goals with 10penalties. You asked to remove the pks And he was left with 12 goals a . tally other midfielders (fabregas, Silva etc) has reached. So what is so exceptional about that seaon that you wont stop shouting about. Stop making noise with your useless lampard the penalty merchant. infact albino scholes best league season without pks was 14 a tally which lampard never achieved.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day just like Dele Alli and co had monster seasons and could not replicate consistently. That's why Lampard pocket is full and the ones you bring up record reads like binary code.

thorrvik55:


I believe KDB's best position is the 10 role or the third midfielder with freedom to roam in a 4-3-3.

Playing KDB in central midfield in a team that's not Pep's City would be a waste of his abilities IMO.

How do you think KDB would fit into the current Chelsea team? Who would he displace and what would he offer? Lampard is coach.

Leyqute:


I’d say KdB offers less defensively than Lampard. Mourinho would prefer Lampard to KDB.

Haaaa

Dont say this outside.......You are so wrong.

KDB tracks back to defend than lampard

Ibeme:


Melvyn11 and Swissh are fools. They don't know how to interrogate data properly.

The Aguero and Salah challenging for golden boot are doing so with like 15 clean goals and 5 or 6 penalties.

They think it's beans for midfielder to score that amount clean. Maybe Messi and Ronaldo are the ones confusing them.

Once certain people hold a particular opinion, there's nothing you'll say or do to change it.

The other one posted a very impressive stat of fabregas during that same season and called Lampard with similar stat "yeye".

Jokers

Unlimited22:

He's been playing as the CM with Fernandinho or Rodri behind him, and maybe Silva ahead of him when he does play.
And he spends a lot of his time running that inside right channel or even plain on the right wing, delivering those killer crosses.
Playing him in the hole would attract too much attention to him, especially because he's not a dribbler.

True. KDB is effective up the pitch during counters when there’s enough space for him to release that killer pass.

When faced with a team that sits deep, he’s as advanced as an attacking RM (or LM). But then sometimes he breaks the deadlock by picking the ball, maneuvering past like 2 players and then shooting. He’s got that quality.

Greatihex:
The way you bring narratives from no where baffles me.

Lampard was so good at that age that he could guarantee league win, yet Mourinho had to chase him away to America with Fabregas (which mourinho described as the last piece of his puzzle) so that Chelsea could win the league.


Thank God that Pellegrini knows that the first job of a CM is to control midfield play before anything goals. That is why he usually brought in Lampard when legs were tired to come get the goals, which was the only thing left in his arsenal at that time.

This your narrative of city losing the league because Lampard was benched is one of your worst narratives.

The same Lampard that always looked like trembling if the ball is passed to him. Nigga will always release the pass with the speed of light so that small boys will not come and meet him with the ball is the person that you want a manager to be starting as a midfield achor just because he still knows how to score goals.

No manager in his right senses, who is serious to win title will be starting Lampard at that time.

I've always said you don't know how to watch football.

I don't argue with results and the result speaks for itself which is that City collected 28 points from the 10 games Lampard started.

By the time Pellegrini drafted him into the team in September, they were already far behind Chelsea yet Lampard kept them in the hunt. They expected his loan to finish that December so they had to prioritise their main players not short term loan and that is where they started dropping points.

At the bolded, when did you ever know Lampard to hold onto ball instead of passing quickly. I have told you, you don't know how to watch football, which is why you gravitate toward those who dance makossa on the ball unnecessarily. That same foolishness is what made you think Hazard is one of footballs greats to the point you lot were not far from comparing him with Messi and Ronaldo, when I have already told you 6 years ago that even KDB is better.

I have told you time without number that an AM job is to act quickly to exploit gaps not to control possession. Anywhere you like to check in this world, possession is controlled by the DM and CM. So definitely, there must be computer error in your brain if you are watching City expecting Lampard to hold ball instead of Fernandinho and Toure behind him. He did exactly what he came there to do which is make the difference at the right end of the pitch.

raumdeuter:


If you have sharp attackers who can do their job I will have KdB if your attacker is blunt I will have Lampard

LooL. This is exactly what I said. Surprised Henderson is being considered for PFL when KDB is there.

Godx:

How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown.
Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons.


2018-19: 46

2017-18: 44

2016-17: 41

2015-16: 34

2014-15: 38

2013-14: 38

Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons.

If Madrid had 2 Ramos at CB, the goals conceded would be triple

Ibeme:


Even a broken clock is right twice a day just like Dele Alli and co had monster seasons and could not replicate consistently. That's why Lampard pocket is full and the ones you bring up record reads like binary code.

Fact remains lampard never reached Scholes 14 league goals tally in any of his seasons without pks. Now bring lampard league tally for each single seasons without penalties let's see how mind blowing his tallies were.

Expert17:


Godx wan kill the guy with KK

Dude is frustrated.... LMAO!

https://www.nairaland.com/5825150/screenshots-nigerians-begging-money-bayern
They must be bayern fans

Leyqute:


How do you think KDB would fit into the current Chelsea team? Who would he displace and what would he offer? Lampard is coach.

That 3rd CM role Mount plays when we use a 4-3-3 formation would be perfect for him. He is not restricted to one part of the pitch and has the freedom to roam. He is also not mandated to track back and do the dirty work like he would be required to when he's played deeper.

Greatihex:
leave formation that you see, kdb plays the same thing he plays for City at Belgium. He plays as a cm with freedom to roam all over the pitch.

He plays deeper for City than for Belgium, leave formation.

He plays as an AM most times but likes to drop deeper to dictate the tempo of the game

Melvyn11:

Fact remains lampard never reached Scholes 14 league goals tally in any of his seasons without pks. Now bring lampard league tally for each single seasons without penalties let's see how mind blowing his tallies were.

How many league goals was ur lord and saviour Zidane scoring every season??

Its quite funny that u can't think of one Madrid midfielder both past and present, dead or alive that has better stats than Lampard. U would always attach itself to another club's player.

If it is not Fabregas today, it would be Debruyne tomorrow.

Shey Madrid no get midfielders past or present, dead or alive ni?

Yeye dey smell

Even dat one dey used to Swissh on/off, it is a Chelsea ex-player dat would never affiliate himself with anything Arsenal he'll want to use to drag a Chelsea great..

Shey Arsenal self no get midfielders??

Melvyn11:

You brought lampard best ever league season which was 22 goals with 10penalties. You asked to remove the pks And he was left with 12 goals a . tally other midfielders (fabregas, Silva etc) has reached. So what is so exceptional about that seaon that you wont stop shouting about. Stop making noise with your useless lampard the penalty merchant. infact albino scholes best league season without pks was 14 a tally which lampard never achieved.

he scored 27 not 22, so rephrase yourself

thorrvik55:


How many league goals was ur lord and saviour Zidane scoring every season??

Its quite funny that u can't think of one Madrid midfielder both past and present, dead or alive that has better stats than Lampard. U would always attach itself to another club's player.

If it is not Fabregas today, it would be Debruyne tomorrow.

Shey Madrid no get midfielders past or present, dead or alive ni?

Yeye dey smell

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Thorvik is a disgrace.