raumdeuter:


Fabinho hasnt joined, Robertson hasnt been discovered, Gini and Henderson were still finding their feet, Salah hasnt been discovered

Rather it was Moreno, Clyne, Can etc

Fabinho who started getting on his feet towards the mid of last season?
Henderson been at Liverpool since 2011
Gini, salah .....really?
Van djik was clearly Liverpool best player in 18/19....
Which was why he was in the top three of all individual awards

Expert17:


So Trent alenxander arnold and Robertson don't attack

You guys are joking.....

What is the highest assist Carvajal and Marcelo ever produce in a season?

Liverpool play with two DMs and one CM who joins attacks late. Which of Milner, Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum is more attacking than Modric?
Most of their attacking play comes from the wings with Mane, Salah and the fullbacks.

Andy Robertson is not as bad defensively as people think he is.

Real Madrid play with one DM. Plus Liverpool's gegenpressing style of play helps them win the ball and recover more quickly than Madrid do.

All this shalaye in a bid to discredit Ramos?

Expert17:


Pls which year was that

Lets know more about the peak Gerrard

04- 09
Stevie can do all what KDB can do and more..
I will take Gerrard twice every week.
Not denying KDB is also a beast

Melvyn11:

Your Lampard best season has been dissected and he has been shown to be nothing more than a penalty merchant. 22 league goals with 10 awoof penalties.
Look for somebody else who judge midfielders by amount of goals scored I have told you several times.

2005 was actually his best season
13 goals
16 assists
PFA award
FWA award
World XI member
came 2nd to Ronaldinho in both Ballon D'or and Fifa Best Player

Give me De Bruyne's best season

Herbiedeen:
2005 was actually his best season
13 goals
16 assists
PFA award
FWA award
World XI member
came 2nd to Ronaldinho in both Ballon D'or and Fifa Best Player

Give me De Bruyne's best season

He didn't win PFA though, he won Players Player of the season.
And the 13 goals isn't in all competitions, is it?

raumdeuter:

This is totally false. He plays in Madrid a system that doesnt play in low blocks, I have seen Ramos play in a protected system and he even did better than Terry and co

Let us see VVD in Madrid where no one does donkey work for him and he has to engage attackers every minute, not the one he will be pointing and giving orders

The same impeccable Canavaro in Juventus and Azzuri became a joke when he entered the Madrid system. That is what Ramos has been facing for the past 15yrs of his career

Though I don't like Ramos, this is a decent point

kendrick93:
Reasonable ko...
Ask any professional player and see their answers....
Or Were you a kid when Stevie was around?

Hehe, says the boy that believes VVD is EPL's best defender.

I actually believe that you started watching footie in 2008/2009.

Stevie wonder the great!

Unlimited22:

Liverpool play with two DMs and one CM who joins attacks late. Which of Milner, Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum is more attacking than Modric?
Most of their attacking play comes from the wings with Mane, Salah and the fullbacks.

Andy Robertson is not as bad defensively as people think he is.

Real Madrid play with one DM. Plus Liverpool's gegenpressing style of play helps them win the ball and recover more quickly than Madrid do.

All this shalaye in a bid to discredit Ramos?

Modric rarely leaves the middle of the pitch during madrid peak years...
Just because he's small doesn't mean he doesn't defend
TAA is definitely more attacking than Carvajal also.....

Unlimited22:

Liverpool play with two DMs and one CM who joins attacks late. Which of Milner, Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum is more attacking than Modric?
Most of their attacking play comes from the wings with Mane, Salah and the fullbacks.

Andy Robertson is not as bad defensively as people think he is.

Real Madrid play with one DM. Plus Liverpool's gegenpressing style of play helps them win the ball and recover more quickly than Madrid do.

All this shalaye in a bid to discredit Ramos?

Should i list out the Midfielders Real madrid had, under Mourinho

Ramos one-on-one marking is rubbish, you can't blame this on Modric, Marcelo....

nitrogen:


Hehe, says the boy that believes VVD is EPL's best defender.

Who's better currently?

thorrvik55:

I don't have time too. Let me quickly drop this

Rubbish. You are a joke

kendrick93:
Who's better currently?

Best EPL defender ever? Nah, that guy hasn't done half of what Kompany did at City.

nitrogen:


You support Liverpool? I don't know why a reasonable person would pick Gerrard over KDB.....peak Gerrard kor, cowbell Steven niii

I'm a Chelsea fan and I would even pick KDB over Lampard talkless of Gerrard.

Gerrard ko, Gerrard ni.

Liverpool ex players control media in UK. Same way they overpromote Henderson today is how they overpromoted Gerrard then. Football is about emotions, and the Istanbul story turned Gerrard into a myth larger than the player himself. KDB is better.

Expert17:


So Trent alenxander arnold and Robertson don't attack

You guys are joking.....

What is the highest assist Carvajal and Marcelo ever produce in a season?

Robertson does more defensive work than any Madrid full back.

raumdeuter:

This is totally false. He plays in Madrid a system that doesnt play in low blocks, I have seen Ramos play in a protected system and he even did better than Terry and co

Let us see VVD in Madrid where no one does donkey work for him and he has to engage attackers every minute, not the one he will be pointing and giving orders

The same impeccable Canavaro in Juventus and Azzuri became a joke when he entered the Madrid system. That is what Ramos has been facing for the past 15yrs of his career

Liverpool play very high line Sir. Infact VVD and Matip are always on halfway line.

Boateng also deals with high line much better than Ramos. Even though we like to clown Boateng as part of regular trolling, I have never seen Boateng half as flustered in highline as I regularly see Ramos flailing all over the place on counterattack.

Swissh:

Rubbish. You are a joke

k.
(You are a joke)^n*2 (joke raised to power n times 2).

n = number of ppl supporting USELESS clubs.

Ibeme:


I'm a Chelsea fan and I would even pick KDB over Lampard talkless of Gerrard.

Gerrard ko, Gerrard ni.

Liverpool ex players control media in UK. Same way they overpromote Henderson today is how they overpromoted Gerrard then. Football is about emotions, and the Istanbul story turned Gerrard into a myth larger than the player himself. KDB is better.

I tire o, some Boiz that started watching football very recently will come here and be telling me stuffs about players that I watched for many years.

Again, Gerrard kor, Pique nii.

Ibeme:


Liverpool play very high line Sir. Infact VVD and Matip are always on halfway line.

Boateng also deals with high line much better than Ramos. Even though we like to clown Boateng as part of regular trolling, I have never seen Boateng half as flustered in highline as I regularly see Ramos flailing all over the place on counterattack.

High lines are different

Klopp and Pep play a high line, but you never see Klopps defence exposed on 1 vs 1 like Peps. That is because Fabinho vs Rodri/Fernandinho, Wijnaldunm vs KdB and Henderson vs Silva. The liverpool guys are more defensive even full backs Robertson vs Mendy/Angelino/Zinchenko

Its the same at Madrid where Kroos, Carvajal Marcelo and Modric always expose the defence

How many times do you see Liverpool defence in the type of dissarray that Madrid defence usually face. when Marcelo will be in Cairo, Kroos in Abijan and Carvajal in Cape town

Funny how now when it reaches Gerrard you will not bring out his goal tally to show how great he was. Now it's your eye test no longer stats. People are very funny

Expert17:
If you think Lampard will take PK at Mancity ahead of Aguero.....you must be joking ooo


KDB all day

Lol with Aguero nack of missing penalties when it matters most it won't be a surprise if Lamps pushed him penalty duties.

Expert17:


So Trent alenxander arnold and Robertson don't attack

You guys are joking.....

What is the highest assist Carvajal and Marcelo ever produce in a season?

That's because they don't interfere with set pieces

All those castigating Ramos for red cards

Canavaro Inter Milan 50 games 6 yellows
Canavaro Juventus 101 games 16 yellow
Canavaro Madrid 94 games 20 yellows

Do the Math and know that defending in Madrid is different

Ibeme:


Even though we like to clown Boateng as part of regular trolling, I have never seen Boateng half as flustered in highline as I regularly see Ramos flailing all over the place on counterattack.

Air.mark will be rocking wherever he is now

Unlimited22:
He didn't win PFA though, he won Players Player of the season. And the 13 goals isn't in all competitions, is it?

19 in all and also English Player of the Year

Melvyn11:
Funny how now when it reaches Gerrard you will not bring out his goal tally to show how great he was. Now it's your eye test no longer stats. People are very funny

What is Gerrard goal record?

Gerrard best season was 23 goals and 7 of those goals were against TNS from Welsh league in Champions league pre-qualifiers. Plus Gerrard even played directly behind Torres some seasons.

I will still take Gerrard over 99% of Eunuchs though.

But KDB and Lampard are not eunuchs. Lampard is King of goals and KDB is King of Assists.

pamcode:
Lol with Aguero nack of missing penalties when it matters most it won't be a surprise if Lamps pushed him penalty duties.

You cnt play penalty, when you re wearing seat belt

LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

spillo1:
LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

Anything to sell an agenda..

The saying goes: Agenda must Agend

spillo1:
LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

Good point. Another angle. Raumdeuter, what is your response?

Melvyn11:
Funny how now when it reaches Gerrard you will not bring out his goal tally to show how great he was. Now it's your eye test no longer stats. People are very funny

Bring the stats out now, make sure you deduct penalties and ensure you cover total years spent in the EPL so we can see average number of goals per season.

thorrvik55:


That 3rd CM role Mount plays when we use a 4-3-3 formation would be perfect for him. He is not restricted to one part of the pitch and has the freedom to roam. He is also not mandated to track back and do the dirty work like he would be required to when he's played deeper.

That’s right. T. Abraham will benefit a lot from his passes. He won’t get many assists though- cos a lot of the chances he creates will be wasted.

spillo1:
LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

Essein, Khedira, Alonso, Diara, Gago, Lassana Diara, Kovacic............