Ibeme:


Good point. Another angle. Ramdeuter, what is your response?

When you watch the game, Do you think Kroos does as much defensive work as Henderson or Wijnaldum? Or do you think Marcelo does as much as Robertson?

kendrick93:
Henderson has been outstanding this season tbh

LoooL. Which Henderson?

A CB whose only highlights are goal scoring, is just an attacking CB, no more no less

raumdeuter:


Liverpool guys run the media. That is why Henderson is in conversation. If Henderson wins so 3 Liverpool guys win the best player award when they havent even won the league just once

I hear ye. But Salah merited the award when he won it. Henderson is a no-no.

Who are your top 5 nominees for the award?

nitrogen:


Best EPL defender ever? Nah, that guy hasn't done half of what Kompany did at City.

kompany had one great season...
He was mostly.injured the rest of the time.
And i believe you got the wrong way...
What Van djik has done no Epl defender has ever.... Being among the three best players in an entire season in the world....

spillo1:
LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

Lol even I was shocked. When he said Carvajal exposes Madrid defense I knew instantly he doesn't know even an atom of what he is talking about.

Leyqute:


LoooL. Which Henderson?

Dey there make pant wear you...
Keep on looking at the name Henderson and not what the player did....

spillo1:
LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

thorrvik55:
Anything to sell an agenda..

The saying goes: Agenda must Agend

Kroos since 2016/17
15 goals 41 assists contribution to goal 56

Wijnaldum since 2016/17
18goals 16 assists contribution to goal 34

Henderson since 2016/17
6 goals 16 assists contribution to goal 22

Modric since 2016/17
12 goals 26 assists contribution to goal 38

ibeme I am waiting for the goalpost to shift now

Leyqute:
I hear ye. But Salah merited the award when he won it. Henderson is a no-no.
Who are your top 5 nominees for the award?

Vardy Mane KdB, Henderson(Sheffield), Trent

ToyinDipo:
A CB whose only highlights are goal scoring, is just an attacking CB, no more no less

You mean VVD?

raumdeuter:




Kroos since 2016/17
15 goals 41 assists contribution to goal 56

Wijnaldum since 2016/17
18goals 16 assists contribution to goal 34

Henderson since 2016/17
6 goals 16 assists contribution to goal 22

Modric since 2016/17
12 goals 26 assists contribution to goal 38

ibeme I am waiting for the goalpost to shift now

You love to twist stats in your favour......
Modric has been at madrid for 8yrs and has just 15 goals in 222 apps....
Kroos has over 175 apps with 14goals...
This ain't signs of gungho midfielders like you suggested

raumdeuter:




Kroos since 2016/17
15 goals 41 assists contribution to goal 56

Wijnaldum since 2016/17
18goals 16 assists contribution to goal 34

Henderson since 2016/17
6 goals 16 assists contribution to goal 22

Modric since 2016/17
12 goals 26 assists contribution to goal 38

ibeme I am waiting for the goalpost to shift now

Put Appearance,...lets see the real picture

raumdeuter:




Kroos since 2016/17
15 goals 41 assists contribution to goal 56

Wijnaldum since 2016/17
18goals 16 assists contribution to goal 34

Henderson since 2016/17
6 goals 16 assists contribution to goal 22

Modric since 2016/17
12 goals 26 assists contribution to goal 38

ibeme I am waiting for the goalpost to shift now

LMFAO........Kroos 15goals in 4 years , modric 12 goals in 4years. That's the goal stats of the midfielders that bomb forward and are the reasons Madrid defense is useless. Clap for yourself.

Leyqute:


LoooL. Which Henderson?

I think say na only know say Henderson useless

raumdeuter:


You mean VVD?

Ramos is the attacking CB

raumdeuter:


Vardy Mane KdB, Henderson(Sheffield), Trent

If you must include Henderson, Allison should be there

spillo1:

LMFAO........Kroos 15goals in 4 years , modric 12 goals in 4years. That's the goal stats of the midfielders that bomb forward and are the reasons Madrid defense is useless. Clap for yourself.

As someone rightly said before Agenda.

Mehn I don't care what you people are saying - Van Dijk is the best defender I've ever watched live.

That match against Sheffield United at brammall lane, I was there.

Matip would drive ball from centre circle into midfield. Salah and Mane have run inside the box. Trent and and Robertson have run to play 7 and 11. Van Dijk is the only back man...standing in the centre circle.


United tried punting all types of long ball to set Ollie McBurnI've free, and you will think that guy has escaped only to see one giant leg emerge from nowhere and win back the ball.

That guys leg starts from his neck I swear.

United fans were even hailing the guy at the end.

PSG crowned champions of ligue 1.........

kendrick93:
You love to twist stats in your favour......
Modric has been at madrid for 8yrs and has just 15 goals in 222 apps....
Kroos has over 175 apps with 14goals...
This ain't signs of a gungho midfielders like you suggested

The poster asked for the past 4 seasons and that is what I posted, their goals contributions in the past 4 seasons

Expert17:
Put Appearance,...lets see the real picture

you can also fetch that, Its available on the internet

spillo1:

LMFAO........Kroos 15goals in 4 years , modric 12 goals in 4years. That's the goal stats of the midfielders that bomb forward and are the reasons Madrid defense is useless. Clap for yourself.

How many does Henderson have in the same 4yrs?

Covering of face during a football match?

Let these guys just calm down with football for now there are more important things at the moment...

nihilistjnr:
Mehn I don't care what you people are saying - Van Dijk is the best defender I've ever watched live.

That match against Sheffield United at brammall lane, I was there.

Matip would drive ball from centre circle into midfield. Salah and Mane have run inside the box. Trent and and Robertson have run to play 7 and 11. Van Dijk is the only back man...standing in the centre circle.


United tried punting all types of long ball to set Ollie McBurnI've free, and you will think that guy has escaped only to see one giant leg emerge from nowhere and win back the ball.

That guys leg starts from his neck I swear.

United fans were even hailing the guy at the end.

Its just Sheffield you know, not like any world beater plays for Sheffield

We saw how he did vs ordinary Morata

iamoyindamola:
If you must include Henderson, Allison should be there

Allison missed a few games injured iirc

raumdeuter:

How many does Henderson have in the same 4yrs?

LMFAO........Guy you are terrible.

ToyinDipo:
Ramos is the attacking CB

Master of attacking and defending. That is Ramos

spillo1:
LMFAO........Guy you are terrible.

You cant just LMFAO to get Hendersons goals stats for the past 4yrs?

They say Madrid's midfield and fullbacks leaves the defence exposed. The same midfield that has a destroyer in Casemiro and a safety-first, risk-averse Kroos. Tell us another story. Even Modric the little guy puts in his fair share of defensive work.

Marcelo is the only defensive liability in that backline. Carvajal's defense is very good for an attacking fullback. The guy's tenacity and aggression is something else.

Even before Zidane, Ramos has always had ample protection in front of him. Under Mourinho, there was the double pivot of Alonso and Khedira shielding him. The two Diarras, Gago, Essien etc.Even before Carvajal, he had Arbeloa, a RB who played more like a third CB supporting him in defense.

So why are they trying to make it seem like Ramos is the only one defending at Real Madrid?

ToyinDipo:
If Madrid had 2 Ramos at CB, the goals conceded would be triple

Ramos is a useless defender.

pkasso:
They say Madrid's midfield and fullbacks leaves the defence exposed. The same midfield that has a destroyer in Casemiro and a safety-first, risk-averse Kroos. Tell us another story. Even Modric the little guy puts in his fair share of defensive work.

Marcelo is the only defensive liability in that backline. Carvajal's defense is very good for an attacking fullback. The guy's tenacity and aggression is something else.

Even before Zidane, Ramos has always had ample protection in front of him. Under Mourinho, there was the double pivot of Alonso and Khedira shielding him. The two Diarras, Gago, Essien etc.Even before Carvajal, he had Arbeloa, a RB who played more like a third CB supporting him in defense.

So why are they trying to make it seem like Ramos is the only one defending at Real Madrid?

That guy with the Raum moniker is terrible. I pity those that take him seriously. Writing Silly and school boy excuses to defend Ramos.

Expert17:


You cnt play penalty, when you re wearing seat belt

At Lampard's peak them no born Aguero well.