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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 11:00pm On Apr 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


He was defending from the front , You dont need to wait until the ball is in your box to start defending

Unlike VVD whose highlight has 30 seconds of Matip celebrating and claiming VVD

Another 1min of spraying passes when he is not under pressure
I am certain there were countless of times, his positioning would have resulted to counter-attacks due to defending from the front
Most of his highlights were throwing his body in the way of shot, very boring
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 11:04pm On Apr 30, 2020
When I remember Sarr vs Liverpool & VVD, omi jabo loju mi (water commot for my eyes).

What about Morata vs VVD? Martial nko?

Pity!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:06pm On Apr 30, 2020
ToyinDipo:

I am certain there were countless of times, his positioning would have resulted to counter-attacks due to defending from the front
Most of his highlights were throwing his body in the way of shot, very boring

What is a defender expected to do when opponent are shooting? To dodge like VVD or run away from shots? That is why Ramos will always be a legend, he throws his body in the line of danger to protect his goal

See what VVD was doing here vs PSG, Abeg is this how to mark or stop opponents?

Pay attention to Liverpools number 4 the best defender in the history of the EPL

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:07pm On Apr 30, 2020
This is the moment the world best defender was spinning like okoto

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 11:11pm On Apr 30, 2020
VVD exposed o, baba will be running away from attackers, coward! Point and shout defender...... it's very interesting to believe that he is the best because he gets dribbled once or just thrice in a season, when all he does is run away from attackers.

Lazy defender!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:15pm On Apr 30, 2020
nitrogen:
VVD exposed o, baba will be running away from attackers, coward! Point and shout defender...... it's very interesting to believe that he is the best because he gets dribbled once or just thrice in a season, when all he does is run away from attackers.

Lazy defender!

The last 3 gifs were vs Barca Madrid and PSG

But we are to believe he is the best because of his point and shout vs Shieffield, Burnley and Aston Villa

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:22pm On Apr 30, 2020
The Hwang vs VVD has already been seen so I wont repeat it. Its not necesary

These are the type of crosses that Ramos will routinely block but when you have a defender more concerned about his "they wont dribble me" stats and avoid engagement attackers even from lowly Salzburg can thread these types of passes

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:23pm On Apr 30, 2020
Ibeme:


I'm a Chelsea fan and I would even pick KDB over Lampard talkless of Gerrard.

Gerrard ko, Gerrard ni.

Liverpool ex players control media in UK. Same way they overpromote Henderson today is how they overpromoted Gerrard then. Football is about emotions, and the Istanbul story turned Gerrard into a myth larger than the player himself. KDB is better.
Thats why I’m against any football lover that rate players high based on team success. Watch them individually on the pitch then judge.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 11:33pm On Apr 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


The last 3 gifs were vs Barca Madrid and PSG

But we are to believe he is the best because of his point and shout vs Shieffield, Burnley and Aston Villa

Honestly, it's sad. EPL's best defender ever is a lazy coward. This sh1t I not fair on Terry, Fagbo, Vidic, Stam, Tony, Kompany and others.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 11:58pm On Apr 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


What is a defender expected to do when opponent are shooting? To dodge like VVD or run away from shots? That is why Ramos will always be a legend, he throws his body in the line of danger to protect his goal

See what VVD was doing here vs PSG, Abeg is this how to mark or stop opponents?

Pay attention to Liverpools number 4 the best defender in the history of the EPL


Any player can have a blooper. Watch minute 4:12 to 4.22 of the Ramos heroics video you posted, the uploader of the video canceled out whatever Ramos did right in the entire video in those few seconds.

Modified:
However VVD when faced with Spanish opposition, his team was also leaking goals, which somewhat speaks of how he would have fared in laliga

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:15am On May 01, 2020
ToyinDipo:


Any player can have a blooper. Watch minute 4:12 to 4.22 of the Ramos heroics video you posted, the uploader of the video canceled out whatever Ramos did right in the entire video in those few seconds.

Modified:
However VVD when faced with Spanish opposition, his team was also leaking goals, which somewhat speaks of how he would have fared in laliga

This was between 4:12 and 4:22

See an attacker about to shoot on goal and how Ramos disrupted him and finally blocked the shot



vs Barcelona VVD conceded 3 goals
vs Real Madrid VVD conceded 3 goals
va Atletico VVD conceded 4 goals

vs 3 Spanish opposition 10 goals conceded, Imagine if he was playing them week in week out

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 12:18am On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


This was between 4:12 and 4:22

See an attacker about to shoot on goal and how Ramos disrupted him and finally blocked the shot



vs Barcelona VVD conceded 3 goals
vs Real Madrid VVD conceded 3 goals
va Atletico VVD conceded 4 goals

vs 3 SPanish opposition 10 goals conceded, Imagine if he was playing them week in week out

Ramos is mostly good at throwing his body against shots, and that was a lucky block, after the player already wiped the floor with Ramos
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:30am On May 01, 2020
ToyinDipo:
Ramos is mostly good at throwing his body against shots, and that was a lucky block, after the player already wiped the floor with Ramos

What is a defender supposed to do when an attacker is open on goal.

At this point below what was Ramos or any defender supposed to do? Should he do like VVD and not throw himself in front of the ball to preserve his "I never get dribbled" record?

If Ramos didn't throw himself in front of that shot, that is a 100% goal unless the keeper pulls a miracle save, Yet Ramos saved a sure goal and he didnt even concede a shot on target

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 12:56am On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


What is a defender supposed to do when an attacker is open on goal.

At this point below what was Ramos or any defender supposed to do? Should he do like VVD and not throw himself in front of the ball to preserve his "I never get dribbled" record?

If Ramos didn't throw himself in front of that shot, that is a 100% goal unless the keeper pulls a miracle save, Yet Ramos saved a sure goal and he didnt even concede a shot on target

If he was going to commit himself to blocking the shot, he could have probably closed up the player better
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:01am On May 01, 2020
ToyinDipo:


If he was going to commit himself to blocking the shot, he could have probably closed up the player better

That is the difference between someone actually on the field doing and someone pointing like VVD. At this point the attacker was going to shoot, so how do you close up someone who was loaded up his shot besides diving to block

At the end, The attacker who had a certain 100% chance didnt even get his shot on target because of the ingenuity of Sergio Ramos.

The shooter got away from Kroos and Ramos had to defend against 2 attackers while his teammates were in Kontagora

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 1:07am On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


That is the difference between someone actually on the field doing and someone pointing like VVD. At this point the attacker was going to shoot, so how do you close up someone who was loaded up his shot besides diving to block

At the end, The attacker who had a certain 100% chance didnt even get his shot on target because of the ingenuity of Sergio Ramos.

The shooter got away from Kroos and Ramos had to defend against 2 attackers while his teammates were in Kontagora

Lool, but Ramos also was coming from Jebba at that point, he was somewhat out of position
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:07am On May 01, 2020
Expert17:


You cnt play penalty, when you re wearing seat belt

cheesy cheesy
In their peak, it will be foolish of any coach to assign PK taker role to Aguero when Lampard is there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:13am On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


When you watch the game, Do you think Kroos does as much defensive work as Henderson or Wijnaldum? Or do you think Marcelo does as much as Robertson?
Why the excuse for Ramos though when same you don’t allow that when it comes to the players you don’t like. Strange..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:27am On May 01, 2020
spillo1:

That guy with the Raum moniker is terrible. I pity those that take him seriously. Writing Silly and school boy excuses to defend Ramos.
So you are just knowing Raumdeuter, the guy rates players in an unprofessional way hence his inconsistency when analyzing football. Ramos has that fighting spirit but he is tactically average as a Centre back.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:29am On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:
Ramos
All these are excuses which you don’t accept when you don’t like the player.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:51am On May 01, 2020
ToyinDipo:


Lool, but Ramos also was coming from Jebba at that point, he was somewhat out of position

Ramos was marking the other attacker and had to recover to block the shot
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:53am On May 01, 2020
hensben:
Why the excuse for Ramos though when same you don’t allow that when it comes to the players you don’t like. Strange..

Everyone knows that defending in parapo system is easier than when its one vs one

In community defence you can be waiting for someone to join you to gather and mark one person

Look at Peps defence and see how many times they catch the defenders in one vs one situation
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:57am On May 01, 2020
hensben:
All these are excuses which you don’t accept when you don’t like the player.

Defending in Madrid is different from at Liverpool

At Liverpool mediocre players like VVD Matip Gomez all look decent in defense because they have a good midfield that protect them.

In Madrid its everyone for himself. Kroos and Modric dont have the workrate of Henderson and Wijnaldum while Marcelo does not give the defensive contributions of Robertson

In community defending of Athletico, for example, any defender can look great because they defend in numbers, Miranda left and became a joke, Godin left he is getting dragged at Inter, whereas Savic and Felipe were made to look like prime Baresi in the same Simeone lineup because he will put another layer of 4 DM in front of them

That was why Terry camapigned for AVB to be sacked because he wasnt giving him the cover of community and exposing his nyansh regularly

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 4:01am On May 01, 2020
ToyinDipo:


Lool, but Ramos also was coming from Jebba at that point, he was somewhat out of position
LOL he was actually marking another player in the box na. He had to jump in after this player with the ball got away from his marker and had a clear shot on goal. There are other videos or gifs to flog Ramos with, leave this one cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:33am On May 01, 2020
eph12:

LOL he was actually marking another player in the box na. He had to jump in after this player with the ball got away from his marker and had a clear shot on goal. There are other videos or gifs to flog Ramos with, leave this one cheesy

That is the kind of donkey work Ramos does in Madrid. See how lackadaisical that Madrid guy who was supposed to mark the shooter played

That is why Ramos has to be jumping in and doing 5 peoples work. So why wont he collect yellow and red cards

The last red card he collected vs City, 2 players (Casemiro? and Varane decided to mess up a harmless ball and Ramos in trying to make up conceded a free kick and a red which I consider a smart decision If Jesus had scored 3-1 loss at home is almost impossible to come back from. 2-1 is very doable

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 6:49am On May 01, 2020
pkasso:
The mainstream media and the PR machine at Madrid has built Ramos to be bigger than what he really is. He hasn't even been the best defender in La Liga in the last few years. Godin and Pique have been better. Pique's outspoken nature when it comes to the politics in Spain has earned few admirers so it's no surprise that he doesn't get mentioned as before.

Godin might not be having the best of times at Inter now but he was certainly the best CB in La Liga before he left. He was the fulcrum of the best defense in La Liga history. A proper stopper, Strong in the air. A fantastic organiser and team leader. Ramos gets a lot of credit for scoring decisive goals, but people forget Godin has that in his locker. His equaliser at the Camp Nou on the last day of the season in 2014 won Atletico their first league title in like forever. He was seconds away from winning the CL for Atleti with his goal that same year. At the World Cup in Brazil, his goal against Italy saw Uruguay through to the next round. Those were just a few of his big game performances. It's almost sacrilegious to think he didn't get the recognition he deserved. All because he didn't have the same profile as Ramos and played for the other team in Madrid.


Put the same Godin in Madrid and see a different Godin. You guys don't know what Ramos is facing at Real Madrid. Cannavaro came to Real Madrid and i almost cried for him.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 7:10am On May 01, 2020
Godx:


He has Scored crucial goals and they have covered up for the fact that he is a wack defender. Cabon copy of David Luiz without the champions league finals goals. There will surely be a 2 hour clip if not more of Ramos brainless defending compilation. Play a shit game, Madrid fall behind, run to the other end and score a header from set piece. Everyone starts wanking over him. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Truth be told Ramos is a very poor defender. The amount of mistakes and comical errors he produced weekly is so poor for a top defender. Purely on defensive ability Van dijk is two times the defender Ramos is.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 7:18am On May 01, 2020
spillo1:

LMFAO........Kroos 15goals in 4 years , modric 12 goals in 4years. That's the goal stats of the midfielders that bomb forward and are the reasons Madrid defense is useless. Clap for yourself.
HAhahahaha You just had to add the clap part.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 7:21am On May 01, 2020
pkasso:
They say Madrid's midfield and fullbacks leaves the defence exposed. The same midfield that has a destroyer in Casemiro and a safety-first, risk-averse Kroos. Tell us another story. Even Modric the little guy puts in his fair share of defensive work.

Marcelo is the only defensive liability in that backline. Carvajal's defense is very good for an attacking fullback. The guy's tenacity and aggression is something else.

Even before Zidane, Ramos has always had ample protection in front of him. Under Mourinho, there was the double pivot of Alonso and Khedira shielding him. The two Diarras, Gago, Essien etc.Even before Carvajal, he had Arbeloa, a RB who played more like a third CB supporting him in defense.

So why are they trying to make it seem like Ramos is the only one defending at Real Madrid?

Perfectly explained. Dayo is just being mischievous in a zeal to defend Ramos incompetence as a defender.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 7:24am On May 01, 2020
See as all of them just ignore the last gif and what led tot the red card cheesy cheesy

Coverage indeed like Pepe wasn't deployed to the midfield to shield the defense at some point cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 7:43am On May 01, 2020
Kimbeast:


Truth be told Ramos is a very poor defender. The amount of mistakes and comical errors he produced weekly is so poor for a top defender. Purely on defensive ability Van dijk is two times the defender Ramos is.
Ramos is and has always been a wack defender . Van Dijk is the epitome of a defender made in the lab. He has everything in the locker, power, pace, strength, acceleration, tackling, heading, speed, passing, positioning,
leadership, communication, organisation, etc He is a beast.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 8:08am On May 01, 2020
Godx:

Ramos is and has always been a wack defender . Van Dijk is the epitome of a defender made in the lab. He has everything in the locker, power, pace, strength, acceleration, tackling, heading, speed, passing, positioning,
leadership, communication, organisation, etc He is a beast.
It’s infuriating how effortless everything looks for him when defending. What I even admire about van dijk is his positioning and how he can use his pace perfectly. I have watched him handled Mbappe and Traore two freakishly fast wingers comfortable one on one.

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