Eruditor:


I did not tell you Lassa Fever was responsible for the deaths, I said COVID-19 is not responsible for all the deaths and then suggested another epidemic that was killing people in Kano that you never read about because the mainstream media did not mention it to you.

Hahahaha.

No my friend. You are playing politics with what is causing these deaths, thinking that we would blame APC for it. I'm not interested in laying blame at APCs door or playing politics with a pandemic.

You categorically ruled out Covid, pointing fingers toward Lassa Fever.

Excuse me for pointing fingers at the most likely suspect Covid. Since you have issue with that, and in the absence of widespread testing/autopsy, we have respectfully agreed to blame it on "brief illness"

Ibime:


Hahahaha.

No my friend. You are playing politics with what is causing these deaths, thinking that we would blame APC for it. I'm not interested in laying blame at APCs door or playing politics with a pandemic.

You categorically ruled out Covid, pointing fingers toward Lassa Fever.

Excuse me for pointing fingers at the most likely suspect Covid. Since you have issue with that, and in the absence of widespread testing/autopsy, we have respectfully agreed to blame it on "brief illness"

I don't care about APC. I have never voted in my life. I am a Buhari fan though (don't confuse the 2 cases).

NOT every death is a COVID-19 death means COVID-19 is ruled out?

We learn everyday.

Godx:

I love Robben. He was so underrated through out his career. Why did Chelsea even sell him because I know he was good in his first season. Was it injury or lose of form? Hazard and Robben on both wings for you guys would have been hot. You sold Robben and replaced him with Malouda if I remember correctly.

Robben had to go . He was just too injury prone after the first two seasons. Malouda was actually great at Lyon. It's a mystery why he never played at that same level at Chelsea.

Eruditor:


I wish you knew who you are talking to.

Humour me, who am I talking to?

I hope you won't be switching from oil industry to virology, bluffing and jumping professions like Coogar of blessed memory.

Eruditor:

I won't be doing any back and forth on this. Let other people do their own research - there are even videos of DJT saying exactly what I said.

There are videos of DJT asking us to drink disinfectant. He is hardly a scientific genius, just a politician hoping to blame China.

I said 2 things:

1. Scientific consensus is that the virus isn't man-made

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/the-new-coronavirus-was-not-genetically-engineered-study-shows#Ending-the-rumors-about-SARS-CoV-2-

2. You said CIA are investigating for POTUS if virus is man-made. I said CIA have informed POTUS that it isn't man-made but are still investigating if it leaked from the lab

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8274057/US-intel-Coronavirus-not-manmade-studying-lab-theory.html


This is not the half-baked nonsense you told us about CIA investigating whether it's man-made, but a signed statement from the Director of National Intelligence ruling out genetic modification.

A40:
Lool my brother Church agbasa

After washing their hand and drinking the water and chanting baabu Corona while breaking every social distancing guideline they are running from the problems they have created.

I sincerely hope after all this, whoever wins the Ballon D 'L' will dutifully pick up his L and accept the L in good faith

Observers are watching.

https://twitter.com/SaharaReporters/status/1257036285476245506?s=19

Umunna mu na malaria

BlueRayDick:
I sincerely hope after all this, whoever wins the Ballon D 'L' will dutifully pick up his L and accept the L in good faith

Observers are watching.

Verbal Autopsy has been concluded. We can now comfirm that neither Lassa Fever, Malaria nor "brief illness" are to blame.

The Ballon D'L goes to Swissh and the oil industry expert cüm fake virologist Elruditor

Ibime:
You cannot do any research and come to any conclusion cos you are not a virologist or microbiologist.

Neither are you. This is information age. There are loads of resources online to get a basic idea or deeper knowledge of virtually anything. And if there are grey areas on any topic/issue, a smart person will seek the opinion of experts.

Ibime:
What you want to do is satisfy your conspiratorial mind which first seeks for motive rather than science, and that is quite disappointing for someone who trumpets the supremacy of science. Eg in this case, a conspiracy theorist will first ask what Bill Gates motive is, and is ready to dismiss any science that gets in the way of that conspiracy theory.

Though this is a lengthy post, it has no real substance.

It's only a fool that doesn't know science is only a tool (a means), it's the motive for using it that really matters not the scientific technique itself (which is neither dangerous nor beneficial by its very nature).

Ibime:
A Scientific mind already knows why Bill Gates and Govts round the world want vaccines, which is for the protection of the public through immunity whilst a Conspiracy theorist first establishes that Bill Gates wants to microchip and control the public, and builds his conspiracy from that basis.

You're merely barking the wrong tree. No real substance here.

Ibime:
For example, below is you questioning the efficacy of vaccines because that will ruin your conspiracy.

That conspiracy only exists in your mind. You're merely wasting your energy and time on a fruitless venture. Your attack or criticism can be likened to a man pouring water into a basket.

Ibime:
A scientist respects other scientists knowing that vaccines are not just cooked up in a lab to satisfy someone's motive

Again the view of a dogmatic mind that feels anything scientific is infallible and noble. Scientists are human beings with vested interests. I see many educated folks are even unaware of the politics that exist in the science world.

Scientists are human, and science isn't the ultimate.

Ibime:
But no, you will do your own research and dismiss what does not fit the conspiratorial path that your excited brain cells are leading toward.

Insults upon insults, no concrete point made. Though herd mentality is a common phenomenon among people, that doesn't mean a widely held belief is always right or factual. That's why a smart person will research about essential life's issues to form an independent and informed conclusion on things. It's only an obtuse fellow that would always rely on others to make findings on key issues for them.

Such people are mentally lazy.

Ibime:
If you want to grow in this life, focus your energy on what adds value to your life, and put away these silly conspiracy way of thinking that adds nothing to your health, wealth or wellbeing.

And you're the one to determine what adds value to my life? Lols.

Ibime:
Even now, to show your absolute doggedness toward following your conspiratory imagination, and your total disregard for scientific fact, you are now keenly following someone who wants to tell you the virus is made in a lab, despite scientific consensus agreeing that the structure of the virus makes it impossible for it to have been made in a lab.

You don't have to be mischievous to make a point, because you're not even making any here. That's a guy (moniker circled below) I have been following since 2017 because he's one of the most intelligent members on this forum with well-researched views on life's issues.

People commonly say if you want to hide something from a black man, put it in a book. There are examples of such people that dislike reading here, who will be misled by this kind of ill-thought-out posts that discourage people from researching essential life's issues. Only a fool will be forming "busy" during the period of a pandemic and won't make an effort to stay informed, especially during this period when the course of many lives is changed forever.

Forming "busy" when you can't even work for 12 or 14 hours in a day and be productive. A "busy" person has time to visit Nairaland or watch football? That's laziness. You shouldn't have time for any other thing apart from work if you want to be rich or go far in life. Lols.

If politics, football interest you, don't assume everyone has the same interests as you do. No matter how busy a person is, they'll usually find time for what they consider important, and that won't make them poor or mean that they're lazy.

BlueRayDick:
I sincerely hope after all this, whoever wins the Ballon D 'L' will dutifully pick up his L and accept the L in good faith

Observers are watching.

Then you haven't been conversant with arguments on this section if you think the person who rightfully got the L will accept it in peace.

On these pages, people will turn the greatest amala despite glaring evidence just to make sure they don't take the L.

Ibime:


Verbal Autopsy has been concluded. We can now comfirm that neither Lassa Fever, Malaria nor "brief illness" are to blame.

The Ballon D'L goes to Swissh and the oil industry expert cüm fake virologist Elruditor

You are a mumu and have been typing foolishly ever since. The same verbal autopsy you and your fellow Lab rats ridiculed here for straight two days.
What a double faced bomboclaaat. You better not tag me any of your senseless post again.

Eruditor:


I don't care about APC. I have never voted in my life. I am a Buhari fan though (don't confuse the 2 cases).

NOT every death is a COVID-19 death means COVID-19 is ruled out?

We learn everyday.

Ibime and his gangs of monkeys are senseless.

Ibime:


Verbal Autopsy has been concluded. We can now comfirm that neither Lassa Fever, Malaria nor "brief illness" are to blame.

The Ballon D'L goes to Swissh and the oil industry expert cüm fake virologist Elruditor

Wow! Sharp sharp hotel

gensteejay:


Neither are you. This is information age.

The difference between me and you is that I listen to the virologists and take their vaccines knowing that they have gone through a rigorous and accredited process to create and test it.

And I get my news from conventional sources which have gone through accepted standards of editorial review and journalistic integrity rather than following any quack conspiracy theorist on Nairaland or some unregulated information source.

Consider my post to you an attempt to prevent you wasting copious amounts of time going down the wrong rabbit hole, as you have already started your investigations on faulty premise. Enough said.

Ibime:


This is absolutely false. Scientific consensus is the the virus structure rules out genetic modification, and CIA have advised POTUS that it is not man made.

What they are investigating is whether there was an accidental leak from the lab, which I do not rule out as Chinese labs have accidentally leaked SARS virus twice.

Google is your friend.

You're not making any real point. Only verbal attacks. I posted this earlier:

I clearly stated earlier that one of the major issues with the idea of [b]mandatory vaccination is concerning data collection, citing this website, https://id2020.org/.

This is a quote from one of the proponents of vaccination from BuzzFeed:

"Dr. Georges Benjamin, the executive director of the American Public Health Association, told BuzzFeed News that he was not aware of a microchip small enough to be injected in a vaccine.

He said there are valid human rights concerns about cellphone-based or ID-card vaccine tracking." [b]
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/conspiracy-theorists-are-using-a-bill-gates-reddit-ama-to

Personally, I'm not against vaccination for any disease if the vaccine has no harmful preservative or component.

However, the other issue concerning data collection (and alleged tracking) is a cause for worry.

You conveniently ignored it, including the view of the expert and the link for data gathering and tracking, which is the focus of the post I made earlier today (not all the theory you think you're disproving above). You left real issues and resorted to insults.

Beorn:


Then you haven't been conversant with arguments on this section if you think the person who rightfully got the L will accept it in peace.

On these pages, people will turn the greatest amala despite glaring evidence just to make sure they don't take the L.

I know people don't accept L in peace, but have u heard of force feeding

The L can be forced down their throat na

Ibime:


Humour me, who am I talking to?

I hope you won't be switching from oil industry to virology, bluffing and jumping professions like Coogar of blessed memory.

The point is, you do not know who I have access to and where I can get information from.

There are videos of DJT asking us to drink disinfectant. He is hardly a scientific genius, just a politician hoping to blame China.

Like when some people use sodium chlorite in water to form hypochlorous acid which is 99.9% non-toxic, can be used in the mouth and as a sanitiser for operating rooms? If he is not a scientist don't you think he has access to the best scientists in the world?

I said 2 things:

1. Scientific consensus is that the virus isn't man-made

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/the-new-coronavirus-was-not-genetically-engineered-study-shows#Ending-the-rumors-about-SARS-CoV-2-

Quote from your link which was March 2020 BTW: They did so using the genetic sequencing data that Chinese scientists made available.

Good luck believing that bruh.

2. You said CIA are investigating for POTUS if virus is man-made. I said CIA have informed POTUS that it isn't man-made but are still investigating if it leaked from the lab

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8274057/US-intel-Coronavirus-not-manmade-studying-lab-theory.html

DJT is called a disruptor in the political realm. This will not be the first time he will be refuting statements from the NIA. That is why I laughed when you tried to cite them. Time will tell.

This is not the half-baked nonsense you told us about CIA investigating whether it's man-made, but a signed statement from the Director of National Intelligence ruling out genetic modification.

This means nothing hope you know. In fact, they simply agreed with the WHO and CDC (organisations that have not clothed themselves in glory or or any semblance of truth).

Like I said, I am not doing any back and forth. I can only ask you a few questions that might guide someone who wants to do a proper and unbiased research:

- if they (scientific consensus) are claiming that are still studying the virus, how can they also come to a definitive conclusion that it was not engineered?
- if the source of the virus spread was a possible leak (as they claim they are still investigating) what was being done with it in the virology lab when it leaked?
- if it was by accident, why did China lie and try to hide it? They could have simply told the world what had happened so that every nation state will be on guard. They did not and continued to allow flights from in and out of Wuhan to the rest of the world.
- if China lied (which they did) and hid the news about the spread, why did the WHO continue to endorse them and ascertain everything they had said - even when many of such have been proven as lies? For e.g.
-That the first case was in January. (Taiwan had reported them to the WHO since Nov/Dec).
-That it could not be transmitted via human to human route (yet it is a coronavirus )
-That it emanated from Bats (meanwhile, the bats in question are not in the Wuhan market and do not even exist in Wuhan but 40 miles away).

Try to read up on some of the Nobel Prize winners that agree with Trump. They may be the source of his information.

I rest my case.

raumdeuter:


I was expecting him to name Hwang

When will you tell us why Rio avoided St Lucia to play for England?

The same reason you advised Tammy Abraham, Ibime and Nihilist sins to dump Nigeria for England.

Swissh:

You are a mumu and have been typing foolishly ever since. The same verbal autopsy you and your fellow Lab rats ridiculed here for straight two days.
What a double faced bomboclaaat. You better not tag me any of your senseless post again.

I have made no post on verbal autopsy prior to now. We accept the findings of verbal autopsy in the absence of lab testing. Now your own Presidential taskforce has absolved malaria of all crimes, kindly accept your L.

Ibime:


The difference between me and you is that I listen to the virologists and take their vaccines knowing that they have gone through a rigorous and accredited process to create and test it.

Just observing.

Eruditor:


The point is, you do not know who I have access to and where I can get information from.

As suspected, you are an oil industry worker moonlighting as a virologist and your bluff has been called.

Eruditor:

This means nothing hope you know. In fact, they simply agreed with the WHO and CDC (organisations that have not clothed themselves in glory or or any semblance of truth).

You talk too much.

Your original statement was that CIA are investigating if the virus was man-made and I told you CIA had concluded it wasn't and produced a statement from the National Director of Intelligence to that effect.

Any other thing you have to say is for the birds. I don't discuss conspiracy but published facts.

Take your Ballon D'L.


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Ibime:


Verbal Autopsy has been concluded. We can now comfirm that neither Lassa Fever, Malaria nor "brief illness" are to blame.

The Ballon D'L goes to Swissh and the oil industry expert cüm fake virologist Eruditor

Okay, you believe the government now. Even when they did no tests but when Larride quotes the same people you will disbelieve them abi?

Eruditor:


Okay, you believe the government now. Even when they did no tests but when Larride quotes the same people you will disbelieve them abi?

I don't play politics with health. What was the likely suspect in Kano if not Covid when other states are reporting positive cases from Kano returnees? Anyone looking for anything else to blame is sweeping the floor while the roof is on fire. That's why your bluff of moonlighting as a virologist failed woefully because no health professional will try to blame anything else in the name of politics.

Ibime:


I don't play politics with health. What was the likely suspect in Kano if not Covid when other states are reporting positive cases from Kano returnees? Anyone looking for anything else to blame is sweeping the floor while the roof is on fire. That's why your bluff of moonlighting as a virologist failed woefully because no health professional will try to blame anything else in the name of politics.

Ibime the argument should finish.
https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/breaking-covid-19-responsible-for-mass-death-in-kano-presidential-team.html

Ibime:


As suspected, you are an oil industry worker moonlighting as a virologist and your bluff has been called.

You think I am on NL to blow my own trumpet? LOL

[s]You talk too much.

Your original statement was that CIA are investigating if the virus was man-made and I told you CIA had concluded it wasn't and produced a statement from the National Director of Intelligence to that effect.

Any other thing you have to say is for the birds. I don't discuss conspiracy but published facts.

Take your Ballon D'L.[/s]

CIA and the National intelligence are not the same and they play different roles. LOL

BlueRayDick:


I know people don't accept L in peace, but have u heard of force feeding

The L can be forced down their throat na

You people have a penchant for trivializing everything. Anything and everything is a joke to you. It's not every time one engages in discussion to win an argument. When someone makes a post, the sensible thing is to counter their points with facts, not hurling insults or making assumptions (and trying to counter your own assumptions), or trying to be mischievous to win an argument.

Everything isn't always about winning an argument. And if someone counters my points in a post with facts, I would accept I'm wrong and learn from them. However, all I've seen is personal attacks, which don't address any point raised.

Ibime:


I don't play politics with health. What was the likely suspect in Kano if not Covid when other states are reporting positive cases from Kano returnees? Anyone looking for anything else to blame is sweeping the floor while the roof is on fire. That's why your bluff of moonlighting as a virologist failed woefully because no health professional will try to blame anything else in the name of politics.

LOL. Yea I was moonlighting because I asked you to consult virologists therefore I was claiming to be one. Just like when I said not all deaths are COVID-19 deaths and to you it meant that I ruled out COVID-19.

papiforreal:


Ibime the argument should finish.
https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/breaking-covid-19-responsible-for-mass-death-in-kano-presidential-team.html

The argument has finished. Them no want chop their L

Eruditor:



CIA and the National intelligence are not the same and they play different roles. LOL

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, is the clearinghouse for all U.S. spy agencies and is the head of all seventeen agencies including the CIA.

You've been talking half-baked rubbish since you opened your mouth to say this:

Eruditor:

I am not joining issues but the highlighted is not true. In fact, the POTUS after being informed by the CIA has opened an investigation on this because they believe the virus may have been engineered in a lab. .

Now their head office has released statement saying it's not man-made, you are still talking half-baked rubbish.

You are completely out of your depth. Go and Sleep.

Swissh:

You are a mumu and have been typing foolishly ever since. The same verbal autopsy you and your fellow Lab rats ridiculed here for straight two days.
What a double faced bomboclaaat. You better not tag me any of your senseless post again.

I commend u though. Showing the height of your stupidity on an online forum day in day out is no easy feat.
It seems you and your lapdog are well versed in the sacred art of public show of foolishness.

Too much nonsense in one post

Ibime:


The argument has finished. Them no want chop their L

https://www.nairaland.com/5833650/coronavirus-cause-mysterious-deaths-kano

Just in!