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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Carmit(m): 3:53am On May 07, 2020
Abeokuta is a very ancient city and one of the oldest places in Nigeria.

It's old feel and structures have been preserved over the years with most of its buildings over a 100 years old.

Enjoy! cheesy

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Carmit(m): 3:54am On May 07, 2020
Ancient abeokuta!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:18am On May 07, 2020
Just30:
Ghana is just beautiful

The tallest waterfall in probably the whole of Africa
Tallest waterfall in africa is Tugela falls, whichwhich happens to be the 2nd in thethe world

Its almost a kilometer tall
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:55am On May 07, 2020
kikuyu1:
Dude, don't step into the ring with the MVP! Better men than you have tried -REPEATEDLY.
It only ends this way.
I can't argue with a brain cripple
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:57am On May 07, 2020
Kazikazi:
grin grin
Tanzanian village..
Send more of those villages
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:14am On May 07, 2020
Just30:
Hidden gems of the Volta
Lush green,
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 6:42am On May 07, 2020
gallivant:
Property in Kenya is 3 times more expensive than in Ghana. It's better designed with ample nature around it as well.
how is that a good thing?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:10am On May 07, 2020
How is it a bad thing? Property values rise with development including infrastructure around it.
jl115:
how is that a good thing?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:13am On May 07, 2020
Its a bad thing when you cant afford it and have to live in the numerous slums around Nairobi


Even those small property prices, you cant afford
rvp20182:
How is it a bad thing? Property values rise with development including infrastructure around it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:15am On May 07, 2020
Lack of proper housing has little to do with property prices. It's more income or poverty question.The only way to avoid slums is perhaps for gov to get into housing and subsidize the cost of housing. Otherwise like everything - housing, food - etc - slums - are reality in 3rd world countries - including South Africa.
Just30:
Its a bad thing when you cant afford it and have to live in the numerous slums around Nairobi
Even those small property prices, you cant afford
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:22am On May 07, 2020
grin grin grin

it is not a lack of proper housing
there are plenty of proper housing sitting empty in kenya


grin grin

Exactly, it is a poverty issue hence why you cant afford those peasant priced houses.
rvp20182:
Lack of proper housing has little to do with property prices. It's more income or poverty question.The only way to avoid slums is perhaps for gov to get into housing and subsidize the cost of housing. Otherwise like everything - housing, food - etc - slums - are reality in 3rd world countries - including South Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:29am On May 07, 2020
But most of your country's urban areas are essentially a slum. So in fact deliminating what a slum is and what isn't - is just not possible in most West Africa cities. That is why your properties are so cheap like in Kenya slums.

I call them Slumpolis.

Here is picture of Nairobi - you can see the slum and non-slum. You don't expect properties in Nairobi to seriously cost the same as Ghana slumpolis

Just30:
grin grin grin

it is not a lack of proper housing
there are plenty of proper housing sitting empty in kenya
grin grin

Exactly, it is a poverty issue hence why you cant afford those peasant priced houses.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:35am On May 07, 2020
gallivant:
We are ahead of Ghana, did you miss that? grin grin
Okay.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:38am On May 07, 2020
jl115:
how is that a good thing?
In some instances it is a good thing. Especially if you are an investor in real estate in a rich economy.
But in a poor economy, it is not a good thing as many will be driven to live in slums.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:40am On May 07, 2020
A City with Slums versus a Slumpolis.

A city with slums like Nairobi, New Delhi, Cape Town, Jakarta, Manila, Joburg looks like the picture below.

The city tries very much to avoid SLUMILIZATION of the entire city into a WEST AFRICAN hodgepodge. It of course impossible to have a city without slums when many people are poor.

Yes, the properties of a Slumpolis will become cheaper because the city is now a slumpolis - so you can expect depressed prices forever - and you get into an impossible situation to correct.
And perhaps only way is to build new cities from scratch od demolish the existing once completely - by nuking them.

West Africa cities are slumpolis....and yes property prices are very cheap...because most of the city is rat-infested cesspool - and no sane property investor can throw money in there.

That is why they are ever building "new" cities. The existing ones are impossible to fix.

Now to fix the city below - that like Nairobi - slums occupy only 2% of the land size despite housing maybe 1 million people - is VERY VERY EASY.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:55am On May 07, 2020
There is only one slumpolis in Africa and that is kenya

Ofcourse your properties wont cost as much as our because Kenyan properties lack design and services required
rvp20182:
But most of your country's urban areas are essentially a slum. So in fact deliminating what a slum is and what isn't - is just not possible in most West Africa cities. That is why your properties are so cheap like in Kenya slums.

I call them Slumpolis.

Here is picture of Nairobi - you can see the slum and non-slum. You don't expect properties in Nairobi to seriously cost the same as Ghana slumpolis
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 7:59am On May 07, 2020
Wild Nairobi.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:59am On May 07, 2020
At last, IMF listen to the cry of uhuru ....78 billion shilling will be landing on Kenya central bank account soon. . Kenya demand for 1.5 billion dollar but she get a half of that cash. I am sure IMF is trying to be careful here.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 7:59am On May 07, 2020
rvp20182:
How is it a bad thing? Property values rise with development including infrastructure around it.
The property prices in Kenya are 10X more expensive than in South Africa.....does that mean Kenya has better infrastructure?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 8:02am On May 07, 2020
obaaderemi:
In some instances it is a good thing. Especially if you are an investor in real estate in a rich economy.
But in a poor economy, it is not a good thing as many will be driven to live in slums.
South Africa has the cheapest property prices in Africa..........so
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:02am On May 07, 2020
You went 360 degrees. Ghana properties competing with Kenya properties shocked shocked shocked how is that possible.
Just30:
There is only one slumpolis in Africa and that is kenya

Ofcourse your properties wont cost as much as our because Kenyan properties lack design and services required
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 8:02am On May 07, 2020
Nairobi City photography

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:04am On May 07, 2020
vaxx:
At last, IMF listen to the cry of uhuru ....78 billion shilling will be landing on Kenya central bank account soon. . Kenya demand for 1.5 billion dollar but she get a half of that cash. I am sure IMF is trying to be careful here.
THE INTENT IS NOT TO SINK KENYA, EVEN MORE, DEEPER INTO DEBT AS IT MULTI FACE BANKRUPTCY UNVEILS ITSELF
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 8:05am On May 07, 2020
Dlonra:
Nairobi City photography

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:07am On May 07, 2020
NOW YOU ARE RANTING

GHANAIAN PROPERTIES ARE NOT IN COMPETITION WITH POOR HOUSING IN KENYA

THEY ARE WAY BETTER THAN THAT
rvp20182:
You went 360 degrees. Ghana properties competing with Kenya properties shocked shocked shocked how is that possible.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 8:08am On May 07, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:08am On May 07, 2020
Two things. 1) Lack of economies of scale - kenya housing went informal since mid 90s - and 2) most property investors have to provide infrastructure too - build sewers,water and roads.

I think we can sort the first one by allowing pensions funds and gov to move back into housing - and deliver mass houses cheaply. We are working on that - affordable housing.

The second one is also happening. In about 6yrs - we have doubled our paved roads from around 11,000 to now 20,000kms. We are also massively investing in water, sanitation and electricity (one world fastest electrification).What is pending is just to get light rail or metros - at least in Nairobi and Mombasa.

So in the medium term - we might see property prices cooling down in the few areas of Nairobi - and increasing everywhere.

jl115:
The property prices in Kenya are 10X more expensive than in South Africa.....does that mean Kenya has better infrastructure?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 8:11am On May 07, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:13am On May 07, 2020
Like Mzanzi told you - kenya properties are even more expensive than South Africa. Don't talk real estate - Hobbit. This is way above your paygrade. You're talking about little Accra and Kumasi smiley
Just30:
NOW YOU ARE RANTING

GHANAIAN PROPERTIES ARE NOT IN COMPETITION WITH POOR HOUSING IN KENYA

THEY ARE WAY BETTER THAN THAT
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 8:13am On May 07, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:17am On May 07, 2020
rvp20182:
Like Mzanzi told you - kenya properties are even more expensive than South Africa. Don't talk real estate - Hobbit. This is way above your paygrade. You're talking about little Accra and Kumasi smiley
I'm talking about entire Ghana
there is a reason you put up few houses than Ghana

zombie grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 8:24am On May 07, 2020
Just30:
THE INTENT IS NOT TO SINK KENYA, EVEN MORE, DEEPER INTO DEBT AS IT MULTI FACE BANKRUPTCY UNVEILS ITSELF
Eyaa... what a mercy IMF... grin

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