Nigeria 20% is 100B dollar at minimum. That is larger than Brazil.

I have asked you severally how does Nigeria know what was planted? I bet there are wild estimates.

In Kenya and most countries - agriculture is formalized to large extent. There are many formal marketing institutions. Also for export-oriented crops like Tea, horticulture - the data there is very solid.

Now Nigeria - your agricultural chain is entirely informal - plant some crops - go to the farmer market - and sell them. Apart from maybe shrimps and cocoa beans - you don't export anything.

So how does Yemi Kale estimate the production of plants and livestock? I doubt you have even ever done an animal census. You skip the human census because you're too broke and in any case the data has been manipulated since the 1960s.

obaaderemi:
The countries you mentioned all have agricultural sectors bigger than Nigeria: USA, China, India, Brazil.
Bringing them into the debate is silly and reeks of insecurity and frustration.
Meanwhile, agriculture is 20% of Nigeria's GDP.
And there are more tractors in Nigeria than Kenya.

14-15 floor buildings don't count in Kenya. Most residential apartments are about that height in Nairobi and majority even taller.

Kuruptnigga:
So this looks render to you. Ah ah!! Now I know kenyans are indeed foolish. No cap

Continue to pray for Oil. Manufacturing cannot happen on GENERATORS. You need to sort your electricity mess before any serious profitable manufacturing can happen in Nigeria.

obaaderemi:
Meanwhile, oil prices seem to be defying covid19.
Brent rose to $37 today. By July, it should be around $50.
All the same, it's about time Nigeria relied more on manufacturing and service as sources of revenue.

kikuyu1:


They hate you cause you're always right! As always there's tractors per thousand though its old from 2000.

Guess who's at 0.446 per 1000 and who's half at 0.244 as expected?
[url][/https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.LND.TRAC.ZS]

Your boss, RIP, said Kenya has more tractors than Nigeria. He was wrong as usual. What you brought is per capita tractor availability. It just proves how inconsequential your country is. You've got only 14,000 tractors in Kenya despite the fact that your agricultural land is very hard to farm. Go figure.

Asian countries apply on average about 5 times the fertilizer we do in Africa. Nigeria fertilizer application is twice kenya. But as per capita or per acre - theirs is probably the world worst.

Every Nigerian knows their agriculture long collapsed - and what they have is traditional hoe-powered agriculture.

But if you read the stats they churn out - they claim to be about the same level with Indonesia and are better than Brazil. Just think about how ridiculous that sound.

rationalhuman:
Problem with Nigerians is that , they think you put seed and it grows. They Cant comprehend with Idea that India, China, USA produces so much food because they involve science in their agriculture, They are innovative and associate their supply industries with farming.

Their Agriculture universities develops seeds suitable for particular region and climate, They have thousands of Soil testing facilities to decide proper crop and type of fertilizers. There is no way Nigeria can reach to these levels in next 50 years or so.

And yet you see so many Nigerians here trying to compare Nigeria with India and China.

Mkenya2019:
Continue to pray for Oil. Manufacturing cannot happen on GENERATORS. You need to sort your electricity mess before any serious profitable manufacturing can happen in Nigeria.

Our manufacturing is still higher than yours even with generators.

I am not praying for oil, I am giving you facts. How's tea doing now?

Per capita is everything when you're analyzing unequal countries. Kenya is about half the size of Nigeria. Kenya has about 10% arable land. Nigeria we are told has about 900K - arable land - that is nearly 20 times Kenya - so basically to match kenya - you need 20 times our tractors.

obaaderemi:
Your boss, RIP, said Kenya has more tractors than Nigeria. He was wrong as usual. What you brought is per capita tractor availability. It just proves how inconsequential your country is. You've got only 14,000 tractors in Kenya despite the fact that your agricultural land is very hard to farm. Go figure.

Mkenya2019:
Asian countries apply on average about 5 times the fertilizer we do in Africa. Nigeria fertilizer application is twice kenya. But as per capita or per acre - there is probably the world worst.

Every Nigerian knows their agriculture long collapsed - and what they have is traditional hoe-powered agriculture.

But if you read the stats they churn out - they claim to be about the same level with Indonesia and are better than Brazil. Just think about how ridiculous that sound.

Our agriculture collapsed and yet rice production is going up. Ask the beninoise and Togolese.

Still higher based on Yemi Kale stats or based on trucks of good leaving Nigeria for the export market - or has anyone seen a ship of Nigeria manufactured goods heading anywhere.

Outside Dangote cement - there is nothing manufacturing in Nigeria that is note-worthy.

Kenya is a well-known manufacturing giant of EAST AFRICA - our manufacturing goods are all over Africa.

obaaderemi:
Our manufacturing is still higher than yours even with generators.

I am not praying for oil, I am giving you facts. How's tea doing now?

Why did you close the borders? Nigerians are probably suffering now. Last I checked food inflation was so high. There was rice shortages.

obaaderemi:
Our agriculture collapsed and yet rice production is going up. Ask the beninoise and Togolese.

Mkenya2019:
Nigeria 20% is 100B dollar at minimum. That is larger than Brazil.

I have asked you severally how does Nigeria know what was planted? I bet there are wild estimates.

In Kenya and most countries - agriculture is formalized to large extent. There are many formal marketing institutions. Also for export-oriented crops like Tea, horticulture - the data there is very solid.

Now Nigeria - your agricultural chain is entirely informal - plant some crops - go to the farmer market - and sell them. Apart from maybe shrimps and cocoa beans - you don't export anything.

So how does Yemi Kale estimate the production of plants and livestock? I doubt you have even ever done an animal census. You skip the human census because you're too broke and in any case the data has been manipulated since the 1960s.

20% of 400bn$ is not $100bn, it's $80bn. Less than Brazil.
We all know you have problems with maths.

We have a large population which we have to cater for. That's where the production is going. Kenya on the other hand, has only 50m and about 45m are poor, with many starving.

Mkenya2019:
Why did you close the borders? Nigerians are probably suffering now. Last I checked food inflation was so high. There was rice shortages.

You must have been reading your newspaper upside down.

Rice is plentiful in Nigeria and cheap.

We closed the borders to protect our farmers. We are not weak like Kenya.
Protect your farmers too.

You should worry about this, Little Indians:

But it was more than 100B recently - when you proclaimed your GDP was 500B dollars. Now Brazil agriculture is about 80B dollars. Indonesia is about 130B - then you have giants of India, China and USA.

Nigeria claims to be just below USA, China, India, Indonesia, Nigeria , Brazil - then you Pakistanis, Russia, Canadas,

But in the meantime nobody has ever seen a shipload of Nigerian goods except cocoa beans.

You claim to consume 80B dollars of food - and yet you still import a lot of food.

Just how much does an average Nigeria consume? And we know 150M of Nigerians are poor with 100M are Extremely Poor. We also know malnutrition is high as 35%.

And when we are talking figures - I like to paint broad-brushes because the point is more important than nitpicking about precision.

obaaderemi:
20% of 400bn$ is not $100bn, it's $80bn. Less than Brazil.
We all know you have problems with maths.

We have a large population which we have to cater for. That's where the production is going. Kenya on the other hand, has only 50m and about 45m are poor, with many starving.

Now you're sending more and more Nigerian into poverty. Your inflation is double-digit - 12-16% - while in Kenya we are playing around 5-6%.

The nflation figures tell you the rice story from Abuja is not working.

The latest report on inflation in Nigeria has elicited reactions from stakeholders with analysts urging the federal government to ensure that stimulus packages get to farmers to enhance the production of food locally so as to curtail inflation, which rose to a two- year high of 12.34 per cent in April.

obaaderemi:
You must have been reading your newspaper upside down.

Rice is plentiful in Nigeria and cheap.

We closed the borders to protect our farmers. We are not weak like Kenya.
Protect your farmers too.

We are amongst the few countries in Africa with STAPLE FOOD STRATEGIC RESERVE. This way we ensure maize prices never really rice so much.

So for Maize - we keep strategic reserves of at least 10M bags. The idea is for them to release maize to the market when it starts to rise - and to project demand.

We have silos like this all over the country.

obaaderemi:
You should worry about this, Little Indians:

Mkenya2019:
Still higher based on Yemi Kale stats or based on trucks of good leaving Nigeria for the export market - or has anyone seen a ship of Nigeria manufactured goods heading anywhere.

Outside Dangote cement - there is nothing manufacturing in Nigeria that is note-worthy.

Kenya is a well-known manufacturing giant of EAST AFRICA - our manufacturing goods are all over Africa.

You must know the Nigerian market alone is larger than the entire East African market. That's a lot of soap, vegetable oil, margarine, shoes, mattresses, books, processed food, frozen chicken, processed fish, cocoa drinks, beverages, cement, clothings, furniture, metal goods, cosmetics, e.t.c.

Kenya's manufacturing is very small.
Okay, here's the thing: since you Kenyans always run to posting pictures when facts don't favour you, we will post and compare pictures of manufacturing plants today. Let's see how you fare again.

200m people - of who 150M are so poor. What can you sell to those Northern Nigerians cattle herders?

As for pictures - how long before you go - Indians!

Kenya manufacturing is second only to RSA in SSA. We export about 6B dollars of good - majority of whom are manufactured or processed in some way.

We export more than 0.5B dollars of apparel to the US alone.

Our EPZ - Export Processing Zones - are nearing 1B dollars in total revenues annually.

And our manufacturing goods are all over Africa - and our manufacturing firms have branches all over Africa.

obaaderemi:
You must know the Nigerian market alone is larger than the entire East African market. That's a lot of soap, vegetable oil, margarine, shoes, mattresses, books, processed food, frozen chicken, processed fish, cocoa drinks, beverages, cement, clothings, furniture, metal goods, cosmetics, e.t.c.

Kenya's manufacturing is very small.
Okay, here's the thing: since you Kenyans always run to posting pictures when facts don't favour you, we will post and compare pictures of manufacturing plants today. Let's see how you fare again.

Mkenya2019:
Now you're sending more and more Nigerian into poverty. Your inflation is double-digit - 12-16% - while in Kenya we are playing around 5-6%.

The nflation figures tell you the rice story from Abuja is not working.

The latest report on inflation in Nigeria has elicited reactions from stakeholders with analysts urging the federal government to ensure that stimulus packages get to farmers to enhance the production of food locally so as to curtail inflation, which rose to a two- year high of 12.34 per cent in April.

Inflation does not mean food is not available or unaffordable.

I think you are just pained by the rice story. Nigerians are gladly munching locally grown rice now.
Meanwhile, this is Kenya even before covid19 lockdown:

Pray what does inflation means? It obvious Nigerians are not making more money with the economy in a coma since oil collapse of 2014 - and if annually you're seeing double-digit INFLATION rate - then don't be surprised why more and more Nigerians are joining poverty.

And I didn't even want to split inflation into core(underlying)- and non-core - into food inflation.

In kenya when we say Inflation has rise - it probably means it gone to 6-7% - otherwise, it plays around 4%.

obaaderemi:
Inflation does not mean food is not available or unaffordable.

I think you are just pained by the rice story. Nigerians are gladly munching locally grown rice now.
Meanwhile, this is Kenya even before covid19 lockdown:

Mkenya2019:
200m people - of who 150M are so poor. What can you sell to those Northern Nigerians cattle herders?

As for pictures - how long before you go - Indians!

Kenya manufacturing is second only to RSA in SSA. We export about 6B dollars of good - majority of whom are manufactured or processed in some way.

We export more than 0.5B dollars of apparel to the US alone.

Our EPZ - Export Processing Zones - are nearing 1B dollars in total revenues annually.

And our manufacturing goods are all over Africa - and our manufacturing firms have branches all over Africa.

lol.. what does Kenya manufacture, Lagos and Kano have been in the business long before the British discovered Kenya.

We have advanced to manifacturing aircraft parts and military equipments. Unlike Kenya where everything is reported, almost half of the progress in Nigeria go on reported. Do you really want to compare with Nigeria it won't end well for Kenyans. If you need proof of military equipments manufactured in Nigeria, let me know. Manufacturing is not tea and flower processing, it involves real fire � and hard work,not picking tea

Nigeria that consumes 100B dollars of food and import more billions facing SSA worst malnutrition

Nigeria still remains one of the worst-hit by malnutrition in the Sub Saharan region, with children and women in their reproductive age most affected. The 2018 NBS Demographic Health Survey revealed that 37% of children under age are stunted, 17% severely stunted and 7% wasted. 22% are underweight and 7% are severely underweight.

Re-badging cheap Chinese goods is not manufacturing.

pacretus:
lol.. what does Kenya manufacture, Lagos and Kano have been in the business long before the British discovered Kenya.

We have advanced to manifacturing aircraft parts and military equipments. Unlike Kenya where everything is reported, almost half of the progress in Nigeria go on reported. Do you really want to compare with Nigeria it won't end well for Kenyans. If you need proof of military equipments manufactured in Nigeria, let me know. Manufacturing is not tea and flower processing, it involves real fire � and hard work,not picking tea

Mkenya2019:
Pray what does inflation means? It obvious Nigerians are not making more money with the economy in a coma since oil collapse of 2014 - and if annually you're seeing double-digit INFLATION rate - then don't be surprised why more and more Nigerians are joining poverty.

And I didn't even want to split inflation into core(underlying)- and non-core - into food inflation.

In kenya when we say Inflation has rise - it probably means it gone to 6-7% - otherwise, it plays around 4%.

That's not how it works, son.
Inflation rate is a local thing.
For example, if a loaf of bread in Nigeria costs #100, then it goes up by 15%, it becomes #115. People aren't going to feel it much because it was cheap already.

But in Kenya's case, food already was expensive. Now if it goes up by 10%(your actual food Inflation), then it becomes a problem. That's why you have the attached screenshot.

Somalia for example has Inflation of 4%. Does that mean Somalis are better off than Turks with an Inflation rate of 10%?
You really have a lot to learn.

Mkenya2019:
Nigeria that consumes 100B dollars of food and import more billions facing SSA worst malnutrition

Nigeria still remains one of the worst-hit by malnutrition in the Sub Saharan region, with children and women in their reproductive age most affected. The 2018 NBS Demographic Health Survey revealed that 37% of children under age are stunted, 17% severely stunted and 7% wasted. 22% are underweight and 7% are severely underweight.

We are still far from this level:
Kenya

Cheap is relative. In Switzerland - everything is expensive - but people's incomes are high. A bus driver earns 10,000 dollars a month.

So don't compare Kenya with Nigeria - without factoring incomes. Kenya private in the army earns more than a Nigerian major.

Now I am not sure where you studied economics - but small inflation is good - but double-digit inflation is very bad - and zero inflation is also bad.

It's not some conspiracy that Nigerian are getting poorer and poorer..while Kenya is lifting 10M people out of poverty annually or 1M every year.

Kenya inflation is great.

Inflation rate compared to previous year
2020* 5.1%
2019 5.2%
2018 4.69%
2017 7.99%

Inflation rate for Nigeria - 13% annually - manufacturing poverty at an industrial scale.
2021* 12.37%
2020* 13.39%
2019* 11.4%
2018 12.09%

obaaderemi:
That's not how it works, son.
Inflation rate is a local thing.
For example, if a loaf of bread in Nigeria costs #100, then it goes up by 15%, it becomes #115. People aren't going to feel it much because it was cheap already.

But in Kenya's case, food already was expensive. Now if it goes up by 10%(your actual food Inflation), then it becomes a problem. That's why you have the attached screenshot.

Somalia for example has Inflation of 4%. Does that mean Somalis are better off than Turks with an Inflation rate of 10%?
You really have a lot to learn.

I see the data is too much for you. Now you want to show us pictures of poverty and starvation.

obaaderemi:
We are still far from this level:
Kenya

Mkenya2019:
200m people - of who 150M are so poor. What can you sell to those Northern Nigerians cattle herders?

As for pictures - how long before you go - Indians!

Kenya manufacturing is second only to RSA in SSA. We export about 6B dollars of good - majority of whom are manufactured or processed in some way.

We export more than 0.5B dollars of apparel to the US alone.

Our EPZ - Export Processing Zones - are nearing 1B dollars in total revenues annually.

And our manufacturing goods are all over Africa - and our manufacturing firms have branches all over Africa.

You export mainly crops and flowers.
The rest is bshit. That's why you have trade deficits every year.
Meanwhile Nigeria's manufacturing sector is more than a 10th of our GDP. That's about 40bn$. More than half of Kenya's entire GDP.

Okay, pictures now. Post Indian factories too. We don't care as long as they are in little India.
2. British American Tobacco, Ibadan.

1. Dangote cement.

Mkenya2019:
I see the data is too much for you. Now you want to show us pictures of poverty and starvation.

Like you Kenyans always say: pictures are everything. Why are you running away now?

rvp2018:
The default is to have Statistician head a Statistic body. Mwangi studied BA. In Kenya, there is no degree in Economics. There are of course economists in statistical bodies - but the CORE function is statistical - mathematical.

Moronic version.

Economics is more applied maths. But it good to have pure maths guy churn out the figures.

And have Yemi Kale in TV stations churning out theories. But Yemi Kale is a heck of a manipulator in a super-corrupt Nigeria with a gov that would love nothing but the propaganda of GROWTH and SUCCESS.

As for Mwangi - of Kenya - there was an incident where he is thought to have manipulated figures - and as always it was agriculture - he manipulated the prices and quantities - and we had agriculture shoot from 23-25% of the economy to nearly 30%.

And that was the time Kenya gov was trying to borrow more from Chinese. This was I bet 2015-2017 - KNBS silent re-based the series of economic data. You have to understand the job comes with political pressure to show growth.

Ghanaians do it so shamelessly don't bother with their statistics.

Tanzanian Yemi Kale would be dead if he doesn't say Magufli destructive economics are doing WONDERS.

How is Kenya's destructive tribalism?
Last week you had a tribal fightings.Some folks died..

Yemi kale can churn out fake stats all day. Let me tell you if we were to include kenya manufacturing in rest of Africa - our manufacturing would beat Nigeria. Outside Dangote Cement - you don't have any play in other countries.

Let do this for every company you show in Nigeria - I will show you kenya manufacturing companies outside Kenya.

1) Bidco Jinja -Uganda
[img]https://bidcougandaltdblog.files./2016/03/factory.jpg?w=648[/img]

2) Simba Cement - Uganda

obaaderemi:
You export mainly crops and flowers.
The rest is bshit. That's why you have trade deficits every year.
Meanwhile Nigeria's manufacturing sector is more than a 10th of our GDP. That's about 40bn$. More than half of Kenya's entire GDP.

Okay, pictures now. Post Indian factories too. We don't care as long as they are in little India.
2. British American Tobacco, Ibadan.

1. Dangote cement.

Mkenya2019:
Cheap is relative. In Switzerland - everything is expensive - but people's incomes are high. A bus driver earns 10,000 dollars a month.

So don't compare Kenya with Nigeria - without factoring incomes. Kenya private in the army earns more than a Nigerian major.

Now I am not sure where you studied economics - but small inflation is good - but double-digit inflation is very bad - and zero inflation is also bad.

It's not some conspiracy that Nigerian are getting poorer and poorer..while Kenya is lifting 10M people out of poverty annually or 1M every year.

Kenya inflation is great.

Inflation rate compared to previous year
2020* 5.1%
2019 5.2%
2018 4.69%
2017 7.99%

Inflation rate for Nigeria - 13% annually - manufacturing poverty at an industrial scale.
2021* 12.37%
2020* 13.39%
2019* 11.4%
2018 12.09%

You need to remember cost of living is higher in Kenya than Nigeria, hence why people are starving and living in slums.
The high cost of living makes nonsense of the pay your people get. That's if they get any pay at all. Compare your unemployment rate with Nigeria's:

Nigeria unemployment rate.
2018 6.03%
2017 6.01%
2016 6.24%
2015 5.31%
• Nigeria - Unemployment rate

Kenya's unemployment rate

2018 9.31%
2017 9.29%
2016 9.63%
2015 9.68%
• Kenya - unemployment rate

Kenya' is busy manufacturing poverty, starvation and slums.