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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:41am On Jun 05, 2020
rvp2018:
Development is to develop - and nothing beats physical development - so we start from there - and definitely likes of Newyork, London, Tokyo,Beijing and Paris come into mind as top 5 for me. In Africa we are talking Joburg, Cairo, Nairobi, Capetown and Lagos as the top 5.

But if you're looking for nice little towns then you start looking at the Widhoeks.

So the most developed - has to start with most structures (skyscrapers, buildings), infrastructure (rails, metros, trams), etc etc

you are confusing development with infastructure..... Development is more than just pure infastructure like buildings and skyscrapers.... Its everything from healthcare, education, housing, Internet connectivity, power supply, sewage ect ect.

From a far Lagos looks very well developed by African standards however how many people have access to power or sewage in Lagos? How many have access to Internet? Access to proper transport?access to education?

Smaller cities like Auckland can be just as or even more developed than cities like NY without having the large flashy buildings, since a larger % of its citizens have more and better quality access to the things mentioned above.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:41am On Jun 05, 2020
vaxx:
Sagelemi housing project to return back to shape.


5000 housing unit




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQIoCFI4GCs
this is nice! wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:42am On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:


Aren't you kevomtaani...yes or No
No im not Sammy.... If you haven't noticed my moniker is Jln115 not Kevomtaani... Now stop listening to the voices in your head!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:43am On Jun 05, 2020
He used mercer and picked southern africa cities - he is never okay - could also be on drugs like KaziKazi. Actually KaziKazi are supplying drugs in South Africa together with Nigerians.
kevomtaani:


I thought you were bringing some elaborate report or say you've visited this places but instead you are choosing mercer that ranks cities based on livability are you okay? the same mercer that has said kigali is the most livable city in Africa twice in a row, by your logic we should conclude it to be the most developed city in Africa right..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:43am On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:


But you made a list the other time..based in your personal opinion
yes I have.... And that was my personal opinion... The list I posted now was from Mercer
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:44am On Jun 05, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
On road network, housing planning, cleanest. transportation etc. Abuja beat Port Louis by far.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin LMAO

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:44am On Jun 05, 2020
vankelvin:
TEMA CITY, GHANA
nice wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:45am On Jun 05, 2020
kevomtaani:


I thought you were bringing some elaborate report or say you've visited this places but instead you are choosing mercer that ranks cities based on livability are you okay? the same mercer that has said kigali is the most livable city in Africa twice in a row, by your logic we should conclude it to be the most developed city in Africa right..
ranked based on quality of living which is directly correlated to development
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:46am On Jun 05, 2020
Development and Development Per Capita. The US is the biggest economy but Qatar is biggest economy per capita. So in Africa we can say Joburg, Cairo,Capetown, Lagos, Nairobi and Luanda are most developed. But in terms of say development per capita then smaller cities like Widhoek, Port Louis wins.
jln115:
you are confusing development with infastructure..... Development is more than just pure infastructure like buildings and skyscrapers.... Its everything from healthcare, education, housing, Internet connectivity, power supply, sewage ect ect.

From a far Lagos looks very well developed by African standards however how many people have access to power or sewage in Lagos? How many have access to Internet? Access to proper transport?access to education?

Smaller cities like Auckland can be just as or even more developed than cities like NY without having the large flashy buildings, since a larger % of its citizens have more and better quality access to the things mentioned above.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:46am On Jun 05, 2020
Giant of Africa my foot!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:46am On Jun 05, 2020
Danielnino00:


Both you and the experts are mad.

Tell me the criteria u used in arriving at that conclusion..
Lusaka,Windhoek and Gabbrone ahead of Lagos,Cairo and Nairobi?

U should have included Lillongwe and Maseru
You are right the experts are wrong and some random Nigerian on nairaland is right!!

Daniel Logic!!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:48am On Jun 05, 2020
Maybe when you're looking at HDI kind of metrics - human development - but if you're looking at countries or cities with most advanced or developed physical and other such metrics - QOL is important but not very important.

The most developed cities is definitely not Lusaka or Widhoek or Maseru.

jln115:
ranked based on quality of living which is directly correlated to development

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:50am On Jun 05, 2020
It's a paper giant. The whole giant thing is concocted by Yemi Kale their Statistician-General.
Jonraid:
Giant of Africa my foot!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kuruptnigga: 11:52am On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin LMAO

Prove me wrong and stop opening your big big teeth like burnt goat grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:55am On Jun 05, 2020
rvp2018:
Development and Development Per Capita. The US is the biggest economy but Qatar is biggest economy per capita. So in Africa we can say Joburg, Cairo,Capetown, Lagos, Nairobi and Luanda are most developed. But in terms of say development per capita then smaller cities like Widhoek, Port Louis wins.
This is actually a fair comment.....and basically what I was alluding to.

However just because the development is bigger in a certain country, that doesn't make it more developed!! It's like saying the Nigerian economy is better than the SA economy because its bigger!!

But yes the list made by Mercer was based on the %(per capita) of citizens that have access to the mentioned things like education, power supply, sewage, transport, Internet ect ect.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:56am On Jun 05, 2020
Shma:
and I proved you wrong by saying that was only kenha's report by KRB.
Kenya in 2018 was having more than 18k of paved road. We have made huge steps since then as more kms of roads have been opened.

Check out the link, this is according to our ministry in 2018, total paved road was 18,000+, road projects in Kenya one is more than 10,000kms.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/1-621km-of-roads-paved-in-2018/1056-5088982-view-asAMP-bhqw06z/index.html

Hey my post quoted KRA which is in charge of recording your entire paved road network...kenha,Kura are all under them..

This your link is a little confusing...I mean the dates read 2020 but quotes 2018/2019 and still uses "last year" without fully indicating which one it is(2019 or 2018)...
Let me just assume your link is anything to go by then that would mean you built 1,621km of road in Kenya in 2018(a sparsely populated Gombe state far north in Nigeria is building 1,100 at a goal in just a year)..with an expected additional of 2k km in 2019 which would make your paved road network a little above 21k km...
Dude that is still paltry..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:56am On Jun 05, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
Prove me wrong and stop opening your big big teeth like burnt goat grin grin
Because its fvcking Port Louis.... Which is the most developed city in Africa!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 12:01pm On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
Because its fvcking Port Louis.... Which is the most developed city in Africa!!
Ha port Louis is the most developed city in Africa??
clearly you are on nyaope

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:03pm On Jun 05, 2020
Shma:
yeah roads also, Mombasa beats Abuja in number of posh houses, tourism services, sea port functions, hotels and restaurants,
Airport services, beauty e. t. C.

That is a very big lie...Mombasa can be we beat Abuja in posh homes...Even Abuja gives Lagos a very tough in that aspect and you are here talking of Mombasa ..the best neighbourhood in Mombasa is Nyali....go watch Nyali and come back to tell me if Nyali can hold a candle against low income neighbourhood in Abuja...

Tourism yes I can agree..thanks to Diani beach..
Seaport: Abuja is an inland city. It has no need for that...

Hotels : Never!!! Except if you are talking about resort..

Airport: Are you joking? I tackled most of this things while you were away...Abuja airport is miles ahead of that crappy, dilapidated joke you have in Mombasa...if you want videos o am game..

Beauty: what do you mean by beauty...Abuja is beautiful,maybe mombasa is beautiful cos of Diani beach..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:03pm On Jun 05, 2020
rvp2018:
Maybe when you're looking at HDI kind of metrics - human development - but if you're looking at countries or cities with most advanced or developed physical and other such metrics - QOL is important but not very important.

The most developed cities is definitely not Lusaka or Widhoek or Maseru.

I wasn't talking just about physical development.. I was talking about development in general which means, education, health care, transportation, power, Internet ect ect.

And fyi I've visited Windhoek and Lusaka before and both are well developed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:03pm On Jun 05, 2020
Jonraid:
Giant of Africa my foot!

Twitter..smh
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:03pm On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:


This was what I said...you might get most of what I was Implying from this post I made to Daniel..





Yes...
I once read it would reduce the almost 3 hours long drive from Lagos to Ibadan to just 1 hour on the trains ride....
Not just Ibadan and Abeokuta, small towns and villages like sagamu,mowe,ibafo, Ijebu ode will develop...Expect to see real estate developer rushing to build homes there as it will be very profitable due to the increase in demand it will bring...heck even landed properties will start going up...
Already I can tell you for free that at that warri-itakpe station developer has started selling land close to the stations and building estates, same goes to the environs of that Abeokuta station... expect companies, industries to follow suit and also infastructures...and then gradually you are developing a city.....I would love if they map out a plan...this may even speed up the Abeokuta CBD development as investors will gain more confidence from large middle class that will flew from Lagos and start demanding luxury homes, luxury office spaces you name it..



Its good to be optimistic

Is the train operational? How big are the carriages?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:03pm On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
yes I have.... And that was my personal opinion... The list I posted now was from Mercer

Don't you give us your personal opinion next time .okay
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:04pm On Jun 05, 2020
kevomtaani:

Ha port Louis is the most developed city in Africa??
clearly you are on nyaope
Yes.... Yes it is!!

And if you have a problem take it up with the experts from Mercer not me... I'm just the messenger wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:04pm On Jun 05, 2020
kevomtaani:

Ha port Louis is the most developed city in Africa??
clearly you are on nyaope

Port Louis should not be underated becos of their small population..the city is indeed developed
.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:06pm On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:


Don't you give us your personal opinion next time .okay
The first list I made I specifically sad IMO

The list I posted this morning is not my opinion but from a comprehensive study from Mercer....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kuruptnigga: 12:06pm On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
Because its fvcking Port Louis.... Which is the most developed city in Africa!!
In your dream right grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jun 05, 2020
Kuruptnigga:
In your dream right grin
not according to the experts wink

Google port Louis and see for yourself!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:09pm On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
you are confusing development with infastructure..... Development is more than just pure infastructure like buildings and skyscrapers.... Its everything from healthcare, education, housing, Internet connectivity, power supply, sewage ect ect.

From a far Lagos looks very well developed by African standards however how many people have access to power or sewage in Lagos? How many have access to Internet? Access to proper transport?access to education?

Smaller cities like Auckland can be just as or even more developed than cities like NY without having the large flashy buildings, since a larger % of its citizens have more and better quality access to the things mentioned above.

Thank you for clarifying the confusion

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:10pm On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:


Hey my post quoted KRA which is in charge of recording your entire paved road network...kenha,Kura are all under them..

This your link is a little confusing...I mean the dates read 2020 but quotes 2018/2019 and still uses "last year" without fully indicating which one it is(2019 or 2018)...
Let me just assume your link is anything to go by then that would mean you built 1,621km of road in Kenya in 2018(a sparsely populated Gombe state far north in Nigeria is building 1,100 at a goal in just a year)..with an expected additional of 2k km in 2019 which would make your paved road network a little above 21k km...
Dude that is still paltry..
of course nigeria is ahead of kenya in size of paved road network.
But your quality can't match kenya you know. cheesy..
I guess we might be grossly above that 21k km figure. And of course not more than 23k km.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kuruptnigga: 12:10pm On Jun 05, 2020
jln115:
not according to the experts wink

Google port Louis and see for yourself!
I have Google it. And I have even watch it on YouTube. It's just a tourist place.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 12:11pm On Jun 05, 2020
samorobo:


Port Louis should not be underated becos of their small population..the city is indeed developed
.

Going by his logic I would choose Victoria over port Louis even.

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