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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 10:11pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
. It's always funny watching people display their ignorance about history. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 10:15pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
Really needed a united loss. I need Sheffield United in 5th |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by NinjaMetahuman: 10:18pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
nihilistjnr:inside life |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Danhumprey: 10:41pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
nihilistjnr:@bolded, you're a confirmed mad man! ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Danhumprey: 10:46pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
Greatihex:So, one needs to go through all this mental and physical torture just so an all-knowing, omnipresent god will reveal "himself" to the person? As how then will you know the voice that's speaking to you isn't your hallucination, voices in your head? These jokes writes themselves. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 12:10am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Skimpledawg:Lolz thanks, but I don dey since na
Abi do you mean it in another way ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donjazet(m): 12:48am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Danhumprey:There is a simple fact which many people are oblivious of. "God" is a label that is man made. It's primordial label is deus in Latin which would be later translated to its English alliteration. The idea of "God" was a human concept used by men of the early ages to try to rationalize and conceptualize the beginning and creation of the universe. This effort by man to try to rationalize and conceptualize man's origin gave rise to varying forms of belief systems which eventually evolved into political systems( theocracies) and eventually became cultural to this day. Every single belief system was spread to other regions through bloody conquests and imbuing fear into the hearts of its adherents. Anyways, in no distant time, I believe that these irrational fear of the after life will give way to logic and rational reasoning. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Captprodigy(m): 2:57am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Ibime:Haller fits our current crop of wide players, but then no interest and Giroud just signed a new contract. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Captprodigy(m): 3:01am On Jun 20, 2020 |
donjazet:Haller is often isolated at WHam, no movement from teamates when he wins the ball. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Leyqute(m): 5:37am On Jun 20, 2020 |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 9:00am On Jun 20, 2020*. Modified: 10:10am On Jun 20, 2020 |
donjazet:It's not as simple as that. Reality (life) is a lot deeper than atheism or the mainstream science paints it. In early human history, early humans that formulated the concept of God did so naturally. It's natural for a man to consider a higher being that designed him as God (since he can see this entity, his creator) or at least a higher power. As I said earlier, this planet was colonized by entities (beings or aliens) people worship as gods and goddesses. There's an overwhelming body of evidence in support of that assertion. Those gods and goddesses in each culture are the first beings that first set foot on the place, created early humans, taught them languages, and many other things. Planet Earth was civilized by those entities. Life, as we know it on this planet, is as a result of both intelligent design and evolution. In every culture around the world, the locals there have their set of gods and goddesses they worship, and when they narrate the story of creation of their forefathers, the common theme you find is a deity moulded their forefathers from clay. That theme runs across most religions. Even though an atheist may feel life is plain or straightforward the way he sees it, the reality isn't so. For an average human, things unknown far out weigh things known. It's irrational to feel humans in different parts of the world merely fabricated different names of deities, used those deities' names in their own names, and passed down that culture for ages. People just didn't wake up and start forming the names of Allah, Yahweh, Eshu, Atum, and thousands of others. Modern man (homo sapiens) has only existed on this planet for around 280,000 years. There have been several species and human-like beings before us and on this planet, aged around 4.5 billion years. Apart from the names of people, many places around the world (including continents) are named after one deity or the other. The elements of our current Calendar system (days, weeks, months) are named after one deity or the other. Those are not coincidences. That shows a lot is going on on this planet that the average man is not aware of. Some of those entities (deities) visit humans in dreams or during meditations and give them some mysteries (secrets) of life. That's one reason why people still continue to name one invention or the other after a god or goddess even up to these present times. These early beings, who are higher beings (or aliens) had played (and still play) essential roles in the evolution of this planet. In almost all religions around the world, people pray by pointing to the sky. Many technologies in today's world are/were got from those early beings. One commenter above posted the picture of a Mazda car quoting Otem's reference to the deity, Ahura Mazda. I laughed when I saw the post because he can't see the connection and irony in his own comment. Anywhere you see the name of a god or goddess in a technological invention, these are the possibilities: 1. The inventor got the code to build that tech from that god (so he named it after the god). 2. The inventor's family worships or had worshipped that god. Wole Soyinka, a nobel laureate and literary genius, calls Ogun (one of the deities in Yorubaland) his patron. Since he's an atheist or irreligious, that shows the entity played a key role in his ability to produce powerful literary works that have won him awards. https://m.guardian.ng/life/the-orisha-ogun-in-maleficent/ You can't argue with such a person that Ogun doesn't exist since he can see him during his meditations and has tangible proofs of the entity's existence. If he doesn't exist on this plane at the moment, that doesn't mean he never existed at some point in the past or doesn't exist on other planes (earth is just one of billions, trillions of worlds in the universe). OtemAtum calls Atum his own patron. He says it's Atum that reveals the Book of Universal History to him. After reading the whole literature, one will agree that it's either the author is a genius (a great one at that) or he's really inspired by his patron as he says. Any smart person that reads the book will come to one of those conclusions. Personally, having read the book and critiqued the Seriot language, I go with the latter opinion. I don't see how smart a person can be or the level of ingenuity he can attain to produce the histories in that book with that level of details. The Seriot language alone is wondrous. There are too many pieces of evidence everywhere showing the gods and goddesses of religions once existed in the ancient past on this planet. But many things about those entities have been exaggerated by their worshippers. These make them seem like objects of myths. When one learns the history of these beings objectively, you realize they're not worthy of being worshipped or prayed to because they're human-like beings (though far greater than modern day humans in every way), not omniscient, not omnipotent, not omni anything. Religious people fail to grasp that simple truth. When you pray to Allah, Yahweh, Yeshua, Ogun, Sango, Oya, etc., they can't answer your prayers and can't grant your requests because they don't know you exist since they left this plane long, long ago. Just like some people can relate with dead people, few humans can relate with some of these entities via meditation and special rituals (it's really the entity that chose to talk to them, not the other way round). However outrageous the claim of a person is, a reasonable person will evaluate it, seeking evidence for or against it. A number of dead people even reveal things to some of their relatives, showing life goes on even after death. I know God Almighty exists, has no religion, doesn't intervene in human affairs, and doesn't answer or entertain people's prayers. Any god that promises to answer prayers is a partial being and isn't all-knowing. Personally, I know all these gods and goddesses are aspects of God Almighty, just like everything in existence is. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hardeycute(m): 9:14am On Jun 20, 2020 |
No be me go read that epistle |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by OtemAtum: 9:40am On Jun 20, 2020 |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by OtemAtum: 9:41am On Jun 20, 2020 |
gensteejay:This is a great summary. Who was asking for the summary that time, come and see great summary here. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 9:50am On Jun 20, 2020 |
What a great summary. It explains everything as clear as day. OTEM BE PRAISED! |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 10:00am On Jun 20, 2020 |
afrodoc:Why not Afrodoc be praised? After reading his history book, Otem deserves a lot of commendation and kudos for producing that work. As for the praise and worship thing, it's as useless as the p in psychology. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donjazet(m): 10:06am On Jun 20, 2020 |
gensteejay:Produce an incontrovertible body of evidence that supports this if not know that you now hold fallacies as truth. You continue to base your basic beliefs upon the literary work of this otem guy and that is quite frankly hilarious. I have dedicated some of my time and gone through the guys posts in nairaland and I can tell you boldly that the guy is a very good student of history, legends and myths who was able to pull corral these multifaceted branches into a single piece. He doesn't provide evidence for his theories, instead he will link random events as proof of another. Science doesn't deal with guesses and myths. It strives to produce the absolute facts of our universe. Theories like that of the Big Bang and string theory are just logical guess work that others try to prove right. The truth is that as of now, no single human being can claim to know as a certainty the origin of the universe. All the religious belief systems spread across the globe that propose different creation stories were the early man's way of conceptualizing what they didn't understand, the origin of man. This is the stance of scientific historians and sociologists. If you say you know the origin of man, provide good evidence for this and your source of knowledge. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:10am On Jun 20, 2020 |
afrodoc:something that you did not read? |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 10:26am On Jun 20, 2020 |
hardeycute:It's amazing how people do this. I think it's intentional so they can hide so many misinformation there |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 10:36am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Greatihex:Brother G do you also have water filled calabash or magic mirror? ![]() Or how do you know i didn’t read the summary? |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:08am On Jun 20, 2020 |
I don't see how smart a person can be or the level of ingenuity he can attain to produce the histories in that book with that level of details. The Seriot language alone is wondrous.This is the crux of the whole Otem matter. Prof Teejay is wowed by the Otem Literary masterpiece and can't seem to fathom how anybody can write such literary piece without being helped by an ancient god ....I understand this feeling. When I was in secondary school,my friends too used to wonder if I do use "jazz" because I was always coming first from JSS1 to SSS3 second term....yet I don't read as much as they do. I even play football more than they do |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Segedinho(m): 11:09am On Jun 20, 2020 |
gensteejay:Why then is he almighty ![]() What is his usefulness ![]() So much confusion |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Amoto94(m): 11:12am On Jun 20, 2020 |
On the religious topics that have gained traction on this thread since the outbreak of covid19 pandemic I think Greatihex started it with his series of longworded religious sermons then the likes of donjazet and Teejay reacted others countered and Otem resurrected from the dead. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:13am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Amoto94:Ẹ̀gbọ́n u sef add Ur name to the list. U also defended Ur religion when dem wan do anyhow ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:17am On Jun 20, 2020 |
hardeycute:I'm not either ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 11:42am On Jun 20, 2020 |
donjazet:His literature is a history book. So, there are loads of evidence in support of his claims in many history books and historical works around. There are thousands of claims in the book. Pick one and I'll tell you my view about it and also give you pieces of evidence in support of the claim. But I won't be able to review all his claims with you in this manner because of time constraints (they're humongous). donjazet:Still commenting on something you don't know the content. When I see someone that has read most parts of that book, I'll know. I also read one or two pages of his thread in 2017 and felt the same way, so I understand why you're saying this (since you're critiquing the whole book but have not covered up to 5% of its content). donjazet:And you think you're saying anything new. Lols. He started compiling the literature since 2016, and you think the readers (including me) won't have considered this? You can walk your talk: Go and start reading all history books in human history, learn all the legends and myths from most (if not all) cultures around the world, and write your own book of history. If you can do so (and also bring an unknown language in the process), I will believe your claim. How many books will you read to produce such a historical piece? Lols. Do you even know the Seriot language? You've no idea about what you're saying. All those religions you see around that have survived hundreds and thousands of years are not simple feats an average human can achieve alone. You think it's easy for just a man to design a religion with millions of followers and that has survived over a thousand years? The beings (or entities) that formed those religions such as Allah, Jehovah know a lot of mysteries about this planet as higher beings. Without the support of those beings, none of those religions could have lasted that long. The aliens or beings are the backbone of the religions. They revealed some life mysteries to a man like Muhammad (for Islam), Yeshua (for Christianity), etc., who wrote their religious text around those mysteries. That's why there are some truths about reality and life in these religions, even though those are in the minority (compared with the whole book). Based on what I read from Otem's history book, just like Yahweh chose Yeshua to reveal scrolls to him (from which the Bible was formed), and Allah chose Muhammad to reveal Qur'an to him, the same way Atum (god-mates of Allah and Yahweh from Africa) chose Otem to reveal the Book of Universal History. The book (Otem's) says the motivation of Atum for doing this is to teach African their true histories, teach them to focus on the use of the brain, and stop being religious and worshipping or praying to any god. In the literature, Atum calls himself a god of civilization and nature. I said that for anyone that feels it's necessary to read the book. Personally, I've no fixed philosophy about life. Otem's book has histories of lots of philosophies, including the philosophies of religions (which I see as bad overall), philosophy of atheism, philosophy of agnosticism, philosophies of different higher beings including Atum himself, philosophy of Otem. I learnt valuable lessons from the good ones among these philosophies. donjazet:You can't educate me about science as a physicist. I know what is science and what science is not. Unlike you that believe science hook, line, and sinker, when you really know what science is, you'll know its limitations as well. Nothing of human creation (not even science) is the ultimate. Everything should be critically reviewed based on its merits/demerits. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 11:44am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Segedinho:We create our own realities. Humans are co-creators of their reality, and to do that well, the brain is the basic requirement. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Segedinho(m): 11:48am On Jun 20, 2020 |
gensteejay:U talked abt an almighty God;my question is what is his usefulness for him to be tagged "Almighty God".... ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 11:53am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Ibukzy:Don't tell me you haven't heard of Ahura Mazda..The god of fire,The god which the persians worshipped. Not the car Brand oh |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 11:55am On Jun 20, 2020 |
If only we can translate these theoritical knowledge to real life inventions that will better humanity and put foods on tables and jobs.. we won't be battling racism today because we leave our country go white man land ![]() |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donjazet(m): 11:56am On Jun 20, 2020 |
A very intuitive post. Dantedasz: |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 11:58am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Segedinho:Everything in existence is an aspect (part) of God, just like higher beings worshipped in religions as gods/goddess or our ancestors worshipped in the past are aspects of God. In the Hermetic philosophy, God is also called the All and is hidden (not meant to be worshipped or prayed to). |
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. It's always funny watching people display their ignorance about history.

No be me go read that epistle
