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| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 4:41pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
donnie:[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img] ... and who does pagan holidays? Where did you learn that others do and/or keep pagan holidays? Monday (i.e. the moon's day, day devoted to worshipping the goddess of the moon) Tuesday (i.e. god of war Tiu, also known as Tyr) Wednesday (i.e. Woden's Day, the day when the god, Woden or Odin was worshiped), Thursday, (i.e. god named Thor day, the god of thunder) Friday, (i.e. goddess named Freya/Frigg/Frige, day, the wife of Odin) Saturday (i.e. god named Saturn day) and Sunday (i.e. god Sun, day), do you have other names for the pagan days of the week, Baba? Do you do pagan week days Baba, lmao? |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 6:49pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:This is Christmas in the Bible Jeremiah 10:3-5 [3]For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. [4]They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. [5]They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. Nimrod is the Babylonian Sun-god. His birthday was celebrated 25th December. Easter is the Babylonian goddess of fertility. Celebrated at the time when true worshippers celebrate the Feast of Passover. Sunday sacredness = Sun worship #TruthHurts #Repent 1 Like
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| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 6:59pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
donnie:Let those who celebrate Christmas, Easter et cetera defend themselves, but I am asking you Baba, about the Monday (i.e. the moon's day, day devoted to worshipping the goddess of the moon) Tuesday (i.e. god of war Tiu, also known as Tyr) Wednesday (i.e. Woden's Day, the day when the god, Woden or Odin was worshiped), Thursday, (i.e. god named Thor day, the god of thunder) Friday, (i.e. goddess named Freya/Frigg/Frige, day, the wife of Odin) Saturday (i.e. god named Saturn day) and Sunday (i.e. god Sun, day), do you have other names for the pagan days of the week? Do you do or don't you do pagan week days, at all Baba, lmao, hmm? Let me even rattle you a bit, do you really understand what the Black Madonna statue is that you take pride and pleasure in posting about because the popes Benedict and Francis are bowing down it |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by Ndipe(m): 7:33pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37924086 OLAADEGBU: |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 7:45pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:YAHUAH calls them first day, second day, forth day, seventh day (Shabbat) etc. Read your bible and don't fool yourself. MuttleyLaff:I use them for historical reference, to the fact that up until the Renneisance period, MESSIAH being black was widely known throughout Europe and not a subject for debate. They shouldn't be objects of worship. Neither should any bow or worship images. 1 Like
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| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 7:59pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
donnie:What do you call today? What day do you call tomorrow, lmao. I put it to you Baba that what you criticize others of about keeping pagan holidays, you too are guilty of keeping pagan week/weekend day names donnie:You took pride and pleasure in seeing them bowing down and worshipping the statue now, you have never being seen or read to condemn the act, rather you always post the black Madonna picture pridefully |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 8:24pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Today is the day before SHABBAT, the preparation day. Shabbat begins Sundown today, till Sundown tommorow. We should provoke one another to righteousness, not to lawlessness. Rather than see how difficult it is, see opportunity for the Spirit to express His power. The laws of YAH are not grevious; problem is, Christians are already preoccupied with following worldly customs, traditions and laws, which they keep diligently without complain. How many forget to mark birthdays, Valentine, Christmas, Sunday rest etc.? That's why YAHUAH calls saying "come out from among them and be ye seperate." SHABBAT SHALOM. 1 Like
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| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 8:55pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
donnie:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] Who're you fooling? Is that what you tell people when asked on the street abi? Is that what you tell your clients and/or business partners et cetera? donnie:Have you seen anyone preach, encourage or incite lawlessness, huh?. Baba the reason why turkeys are grounded, and flightless and eagles, are in the air, soaring and flying, is because a different grace and mindset. Jesus, didnt come to preach, proclaim or teach christianity. The word, Christianity, is not in scripture. Ekklesia, is part of all that Yahusha came on earth to fulfil. One of the major philosophical teaching of Jesus, in His capacity as man and divinity, is about one body, ekklesia, called out. The ruling civilization of that time period were the Greeks and normally "ekklesia" is the assembly of free citizens, to which belonged judicial and legislative power, and from which aliens, slaves and the likes were excluded, but here is Jesus, turning this whole political concept on its head, lol, and now talking about having a gathering of citizens (i.e. any member of the demos/ all people) no discrimination, no prejudices, no sexism etcetera called out from their homes into public space and to partake, deliberate, legislate and be fully inclusive in the sovereign governing body's services, expectations and/or requirement. Praise God. Alleluia. The point, I am making Baba, is God is Christianity atheistic, Christian atheistic and even Christian denomination(s) atheistic. Yahusha, believes in plain and simple "ekklesia," His body, lol. Believes in nothing else than His Bride. MMM "42So Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers in this world lord it over their people, and officials flaunt their authority over those under them (i.e. their high officials exercise authority over them.) 43But among you it will be different Whoever wants to be a leader among you must be your servant," - Mark 10:42-43 Yes Baba, the ekklesia of Christ, is government of DEMOCRACY, and according to Jesus, in Mark 10:42-43 above when talking to the discples, it is a special and/or different kind of government of DEMOCRACY. Democracy, fyi, has biblical roots that you're unaware of, lol. Life, in the beginning, started on a democratic footing, lol. Also, I am sure you've heard it said that, democracy is a government of all the people, by all the people, for all the people, abi? "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, a small rock and upon the large rock I will build my congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her." - Matthew 16:18 I am sure you didnt know that Yahushua aka Jesus was interested in democracy that much that He adopted the phraseology ekklesia, taken from the first known democracy in the world, lol, the Athenian democracy (i.e. Greek) Ekklesia, meaning, as I previously said, is a gathering of those called out and/or summoned ones, is the principal assembly, open to all male citizens as soon as they qualified for citizenship of ancient Athens. Ekklesia is an Athenian democracy feature that allowed all Athenian citizens to come together, regardless of class and so even the lowest social class of citizens to discuss civil matters and/or participate in democratic politics. Everyone was considered equal in the ekklesia and any citizen present could participate and share his ideas, opinions, and concerns." Incidentally, what Jesus in Mark 10:42-43 above, was teaching the disciples is what Theodore Parker captured perfectly well, with the quote, that: "Democracy means not, I am as good as you are, but you are as good as I am" Jesus changed the original political meaning of ekklesia to a religious one. Praise God. Alleluia. We are talking here, of radical and liberal democracy, and that's where Galatians 3:26-28 took its cue from. Baba, let me clear you up properly and more on ekklesia, lol, so you'll know what is really going on with it. Maybe, you'll become wiser enough to make re-adjustments, where and/or if applicable, to your theology with this. To start with and as a matter of fact, "ekklesia" is the proper and correct noun word for used for believers, called out and/or gathered together, which the word "church", as it is, presently or currently represents. "Ekklesia" actually, is a Greek word, which in Athens and in most Greek poleis (i.e. Greek cities or states) means an assembly of demo (i.e. yes, demo, is the Greek word for people, as like the "demo" in democracy) So "ekklesia" effectively, is an assembly of summoned free people or a gathering of those summoned. The word "ekklesia", is derived from "ekkletos" meaning summoned and "ekkaleom" meaning to summon or call out. "Ekkletoi" refers to the called-out inhabitants or citizens of Athens or any of the Greek poleis, come together in a single place and/or single group, as a result of a call out request done by a herald, announcer or town crier. "Ekklesia" an assembly, congregation, the whole body of believers, come together, as a result of a call out request done by our Lord Jesus Christ and not some church or something anyone starts, because as I previously typed, ekklesia is a family we belong to. The true meaning, import or connotation of "ekklesia" is lost or eroded when it is used or translated to/as "church", as "ekklesia" represents something totally different to what we've commonly perceived what "church" is. "Ekklesia," as far back in the Old Testament wilderness days, has always been an assembly or congregation of called-out people (i.e. Acts 7:38 is referring to the congregation in Deuteronomy 9:10) and it's no different in the original Greek New Testament whether used in non-secular and secular settings (i.e. Matthew 16:18 and Acts 7:38 for non-secular then Acts 19:32, 39 and 41 for secular) Notice in Acts 19:32, 39 and 41, that "ekklesia" is used three times, for people not connected with religious or believers matters, but are assembling or gathering together. So the point is that "ekklesia" isn't about physical structures, buildings, cathedrals etcetera, and the Greeks, the originators of the word, never referred "ekklesia", to be church, building or place of worship. I am sure nelsonoba, you'll return here to say, all this etymology stuff on "ekklesia", is bunkum and time wasting, it's nitpicking over minute details, and that it's pedantic and fault-finding or you, even might say, church or ekklesia, whatever the noun used, it doesn't matter. Well if you do nelsonoba, that will be you delighting in ignorance(s), with saying, church or ekklesia, it makes no difference, that it's much ado about nothing and so what's the big deal. Fyi, I could tell you more, like about the English word "church" on its self, and about its actual pagan origins, but this is will be overstepping the scope of the thread's title heading, lol. 1 Like |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:01pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
donnie:What was that black man doing posing with a white man? Is he a traitor?  1 Like
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| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by Joagbaje(m): 11:11am On Jun 20, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:sir |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by shadeyinka(m): 11:33am On Jun 20, 2020 |
Nutter:No sir! Being Born Again isn't just a change in character else, there would have been no need for the Cornelius to be born again. The death of Christ completed the work of ATONEMENT which made us a new creature, sanctified and set apart for God. The "good Thief" on the cross, what did he do to have his name in the book of life? Was he baptized in water? You wrongly misinterpreted 1Pet 3:21 1Pet 3:21: "The like figure whereunto even baptism does also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:" The highlight in yellow is the definition of this baptism spoken of by Peter and NOT water baptism. Water baptism is a symbolic representation of what had already happened by FAITH which produces "the answer of a good conscience"! We get Born Again through FAITH in the work of ATONEMENT of Christ on the Cross. Eph 2:8-9: "For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:17pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Joagbaje:Come and see how far your brother, donnie has gone.  1 Like |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 2:05pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:You have always been a miserable hypocrite even when I was a Christian, I can recall. It's the reason for my shock when you pretended to be concerned about my wellbeing. 2 Likes
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| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 2:13pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:[img]https://media./images/14cd04951335766288c672c30e186f98/tenor.gif[/img] Who I dey fear before? And yes my clients and business partners are aware. No wonder, you Christians are all about convenience, you do not know what it is to stand for truth in the midst of a crooked generation. 1 Like |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 2:17pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
donnie:[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img] Who be "... you Christian ..." Baba You don sip akpeteshie abi? Monday (i.e. the moon's day, day devoted to worshipping the goddess of the moon) Tuesday (i.e. god of war Tiu, also known as Tyr) Wednesday (i.e. Woden's Day, the day when the god, Woden or Odin was worshiped), Thursday, (i.e. god named Thor day, the god of thunder) Friday, (i.e. goddess named Freya/Frigg/Frige, day, the wife of Odin) Saturday (i.e. god named Saturn day) and Sunday (i.e. god Sun, day), do you have other names for the pagan days of the week, Baba? Do you do pagan week days Baba, lmao? I asked you that is that what you tell people when asked on the street about the names of the days of the week? Don't you call them by their pagan names to your clients and/or business partners et cetera? For example, Monday Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, hmm? I careless whether or not, who you dey fear before |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by Joagbaje(m): 2:24pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:But I have been with all the while as Petra1. For Donnie. I believe he's going through metamophorses . He will come out of it. Satan desire is to make us all lose our faith. 2 Likes |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 2:28pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Joagbaje:[img]https://media./images/58da3874fbf792c6682bdbb577052e9d/tenor.gif[/img] 2 Likes |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 2:28pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Joagbaje:[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyDriveLaff.gif[/img] It's what's called mid life crisis. Its a phase. Sure is one of them things called mid life crisis as I've said. Baba, will in time, get over it, lmao. |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 2:30pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:[img]https://media./images/d20082b207dcf186947ea5a5c786b1ac/tenor.gif[/img] 2 Likes |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:37pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Joagbaje:Was donnie a pastor in your church or just a "young convert" before he took the plunge? |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 2:39pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
[img]https://media./images/58da3874fbf792c6682bdbb577052e9d/tenor.gif[/img] Straitjacket loading for that Tyson DEMONstration laff |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 2:44pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:Baba nobi just paistor oo only, Baba na big fish juggernaut, big man financier too ooo. He, before his stint with CE, was a well weathered ex RCC. Baba nobi "young convert" in anything, its just that whatever and/or wherever he puts head into, it just has to be at and/or to the fanatical extreme ends of things. thats all. |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:50pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:May the Lord have mercy! |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by Joagbaje(m): 2:50pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:But you know I shouldn't be speaking for him 1 Like |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:52pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Joagbaje:Are you now denying your former member? |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by Joagbaje(m): 2:53pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:He's a poster here . I should not speak for another man about his life 2 Likes |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 3:14pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:[img]https://media./images/7173a9dfee60b27cd3ef36f153f118e5/tenor.gif[/img] Look at this miserable guy. One of my weakest adversaries on NL. Even Muttleylaff responded to him. That one dey support anything aimed at me, even stone. What do you want to do with the information, hmm? Did you not read about the privacy rules on this forum? Do you want to take my news to newspapers? Or you want to form a stupid theory? Abi is that the explanation for all the lies you have been posting here on NL in the name of preaching? Weak arguments... you've always had a weak gospel... now you're looking for a cheap way out of your misery. 1 Like |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by eplanning: 3:19pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
donnie:  Shabbat shalom 1 Like |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 3:20pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
donnie:Baba when you yarn correct, I dey your back gidigba, bin dey support you and even sef like your posts too, but at the same anytime, you misyarn, baba, you know nah, I no dey push face, I'll tell it, as it is, without mincing words, lmao. I give credit when credit is due and withdraw it sharp sharp, when not deserved. Life na jeje, hin no hard, na we pipul bin dey make easy life, look hard, come put small ting for head, like shrimp |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by Joagbaje(m): 3:29pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
eplanning:I remember my trip to to israel. On fridays we had to gree SHABBATH SHALOM 1 Like |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by donnie(op): 3:32pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
eplanning:SHABBAT SHALOM  |
| Re: When Did The Apostles Become Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 3:38pm On Jun 20, 2020*. Modified: 3:55pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Joagbaje:[img]https://media./images/7173a9dfee60b27cd3ef36f153f118e5/tenor.gif[/img] You just went to boost the economy of that place with your hard earned, sweat of your brow, graft and grind money You had Ashkenazi Jews, descendants of Japheth, faking to be true born real McCoy Israelites, show you around abi? Smh, I'll tell you, that trip you had to Israel, is nothing less than a charade. When on the trip did you, give thought and/or empathise with the Palestine, oppressed and terrorised for their land that was stolen from them to make this modern day Israel, hmm? Bear in mind that Jerusalem earlier, was burned down to the ground and/or destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD, hmm? |
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