segzy14:
@dennis3D, you don't need to insult the client, keeping quiet will be ideal. Wetin eyes never see, some client don sign documents and even collect account number and you won't hear from them again, heaven did not fall now. Take it easy bro.

No issues bro. It's fine now. We are fine now. Thanks for your understanding. Everything is clear now

megacontrol:
Nothing new here. welcome to the world of business.

I was waiting to hear a design was used without consent or someone worked and wasn't paid for their services or something like that. So far, it doesn't appear like none of that transpired.

If you think its a bother and you stand no chance of winning the business, then decline the invitation to quote or tender. Simples!

Or if you want to cover your time and sweat spent on scoping a potential job and preparing a quote, then state as a pre-condition of engagement that you require some upfront payment before you even commit yourself... and see how that works out.

Let's be frank and sincere to ourselves sometimes. Too much diplomacy and political correctness masks the lesson sometimes.

I would have wanted to clear some vital points you made but then, let's not continue to flog the matter in here for the thread to move forward.

If you want to understand the story behind it. You can Whatsapp me. As a member here I would be willing to let you know why I came here. The moderators of this place and other few reputable hands knows about this and with their permission I came to just clear the air about a few things.

Before we take sides on any case, it's good to have the facts right. That's just my take on your comment. But thanks for penning down your opinion.

I'm just scanning thru comment Dennis3D ,its so funny . No evidence,no commitment and No contributions to my property. Yet ur filled with empty threats. Why are u so bittered and entitled. We are not running military govt yet in Nigeria that means if power should fall into ur hands ,u will probably jail all ur client that falls short of ur expectations # justthinkingaloud#

HealthCas:
Good evening professionals,

Please how many bags of cement would be needed for plastering of a room measuring 4x3.5m?

How much do bricklayer charge for workmanship for plastering?

How do bricklayer charge for flooring of a building?

Thanks in advance

Depending on the wall height. Roughly 2 - 3Bags is OK. But if decking is included. It would be more than that. On normal level. 2 brick layers and 1 labour can do it.

On a worst case scenario, a brick layer can do it alone by himself and take the money for the two.

I hope you understand what is stated here.

Average charge is 8K as you have it. The skill of the bricklayer and finishing touch makes the difference too also how the walls are built on also determines the amount of materials to use. What I stated is the standard should everything be rightly done.

Enyinne:
I'm just scanning thru comment Dennis3D ,its so funny . No evidence,no commitment and No contributions to my property. Yet ur filled with empty threats. Why are u so bittered and entitled. We are not running military govt yet in Nigeria that means if power should fall into ur hands ,u will probably jail all ur client that falls short of ur expectations # justthinkingaloud#

I wish you well in your endeavors.
Have a nice day.

Dennis3D Pls let him share his contribution to the project so that the forum can judge it . Or the design he made for me or the Qs so people in the forum can judge it since he has brought it to open .

megacontrol:
Nothing new here. welcome to the world of business.

I was waiting to hear a design was used without consent or someone worked and wasn't paid for their services or something like that. So far, it doesn't appear like none of that transpired.

If you think its a bother and you stand no chance of winning the business, then decline the invitation to quote or tender. Simples!

Or if you want to cover your time and sweat spent on scoping a potential job and preparing a quote, then state as a pre-condition of engagement that you require some upfront payment before you even commit yourself... and see how that works out.

Let's be frank and sincere to ourselves sometimes. Too much diplomacy and political correctness masks the lesson sometimes.

You hv no evidence but quickly ran out here to make accusations as if i owe u anything .Prove ur point with evidence cos it will look bad that after ur empty threat and name calling , u want to sheath ur sword and sweep things under the carpet. I'm waiting for the evidence so u can post in forum for nairaland judges to help us judge .
LET ME ADVICE U , reduce ur BILL if u want jobs and customers patronage and reduce ur terms and conditions as this is lagos not Anambra state where anything goes .i be igbo so i know value of money

Dennis3D:


I wish you well in your endeavors.
Have a nice day.

Enyinne:
You hv no evidence but quickly ran out here to make accusations as if i owe u anything .Prove ur point with evidence cos it will look bad that after ur empty threat and name calling , u want to sheath ur sword and sweep things under the carpet. I'm waiting for the evidence so u can post in forum for nairaland judges to help us judge .
LET ME ADVICE U , reduce ur BILL if u want jobs and customers patronage and reduce ur terms and conditions as this is lagos not Anambra state where anything goes .i be igbo so i know value of money

By accepting to do Architectural - Structural - Mechanical - Electrical and Plumbing Design for you with stamp and seal with printed documents for 120K right for 4 unit of 2 bedroom flat... Sorry am not that cheap.

I have clients that understand professionalism when they see it. Thank you. I leave you with this.

Just as you value money rightfully so. I value the work my team and I do.

Spending above what you plan can only be what you get when you devalue human beings and their effort. You can't eat your cake and have it remember.

Whats is bad is bad, no other name to it, but we call it busineeeeees. Madam we face it in our daily activities but we know is unfair not professional enof.

we get different type of absorber within us, some no get. i hv lost lot of money but thank God i no lost life. Even if i lost life on the process of trying to feed my family some stupid idiot, will tell me remaining workaholic, becos of money etc.

i hv one word from my father abuse or curse remove no air from you, just keep doing your thing in good way, that is if we are face to face, but internet guy defend urself and let the reader decide. we see thing in 2 different direction.

To be frank engineer, contractors, supplier biz man or woman are human, they have life to live. i work with 80% of engineers in this forum i see method they are treated, i pity them being treated like shit is the sad one. i was treated like slave by a client i careless because is the money in his pocket i need.

i was one castigate to speak for engineer in this forum. #theyhavefamily the gbasgbos i received i open mouth fly almost enter. i am not a trouble maker, but lets ask ourselves, when would the world be a better place for all?

Some engineer here too get problem walahi, they start with you cheap if u enter finish no going back only forward ever u go they sing. when i said u ripp off, somebody say leave that mr ripp off, i no blame am now.... we hv an engineer cheap here at the end this forum finished him. people that really finish him never patronise him oooo, the client he worked for dod not mean to nail him oooo. awon ota ti o ri wa ti o o ri( Enemies that see us we dont see).

if you do not know if i deliver a tailer of 900bags to a client worth 2,250,000, i get less 15k on it. i that business no because you can't get turnover from it. .. Let treat each other with love.

if you are in the words that say "ti enikan o ba baje, ti enikan o ni da"(If one person own no spoil another person no go good) i pity u. Those that consult me, you shld know i hv a very sharp response, my market na KINGSWAY. Not negotiable. make una no vexs if u bargin too much, me I no do oooo.

My architectural and structural was done for 120k . My electrical is not done yet of which i will do when i get there . But thats not ur issue nah . Your issue is i used u and ur intellect on my project . Show me where u contributed to this project and not the price haggle that didnt work which i told u my inlaw hv made the drawing cheaper than u quoted even though he is very busy with his build and sell contract with chevron guys , he did it for me at 120k . Mind u , u quoted with seal and stamp 400k and u gave a condition that u wont summit at alausa as u dont hv time for such .I guess u like talking BIG ,and that i will pay extra 50k so someone can help me summit it and without seal 200k . Stop dont lie .So tell me ur contribution to my project that warrant u to cry fowl last nite
Abeg Oga , Corona dey ground now and money is scarce ,i got a recommended structural engineer with experience for the job and I quickly took it .Anyway who professionalisms help,who team help, at whose expense and cost

Dennis3D:


By accepting to do Architectural - Structural - Mechanical - Electrical and Plumbing Design for you with stamp and seal with printed documents for 120K right for 4 unit of 2 bedroom flat... Sorry am not that cheap.

I have clients that understand professionalism when they see it. Thank you. I leave you with this.

Just as you value money rightfully so. I value the my team and I do.

The job that was done , i can bet it u cant do it . Yes i spent more on foundation but am glad i did to avoid future water issues .i bought lots of material for foundation which will still be used for dpc and colums so after that i will know my actual cost from foundation to decking . I dont need u to validate my project, my QS is there to tell me if i saved cost or not so dont drink panadol on my behave
The only effort u made was coming for inspection of site . U can as well sit at home so contract can locate u . Oga throw away pride biko , it doesnt fit u.Your too pompous for my liking and its a piss off .

Dennis3D:


By accepting to do Architectural - Structural - Mechanical - Electrical and Plumbing Design for you with stamp and seal with printed documents for 120K right for 4 unit of 2 bedroom flat... Sorry am not that cheap.

I have clients that understand professionalism when they see it. Thank you. I leave you with this.

Just as you value money rightfully so. I value the work my team and I do.

Spending above what you plan can only be what you get when you devalue human beings and their effort. You can't eat your cake and have it remember.

HealthCas:
Good evening professionals,

Please how many bags of cement would be needed for plastering of a room measuring 4x3.5m?

How much do bricklayer charge for workmanship for plastering?

How do bricklayer charge for flooring of a building?

Thanks in advance

8 bags (1:4 mix used)

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saydfact:


8 bags (1:4 mix used)

This is cool to clients who go for such as well.
Some may want to manage materials as the case may be. But going by the books. That's the actual standard for it. Thumbs

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Na wa ooo... If you hv collect commitment charges this argument will not come. .. Did u mean she collected archy, structure stamped from you without pay?

So many pages wasted for nothing. I thought I was going to see a case of fraud or that the lady used stolen works online.
In this life you win some and lose some .
Oga die the matter since you not follow ; with this information that the lady brought out that it was all because of cost (pricey) ; I will say in my opinion that you have no right to call her scammer .
Most people on this thread may have read between the lines and may not want to contribute/ say anything to hurt people feelings .
But let us try and do something right sometimes

Chekitaut:
i have one word for my enemies, u can't take the good part of me, i will continue doing it, if i do 99% good and you castigate me on 1% i did not do right. . God dey watch you.

For those bringing relative to play my role, birds fly in sky without touching one another, one thing is do the right supply don't come and potray what is not. i was told from day one "i don find trouble" exposing supplier. me & smilely are the only poster of pics of how goods you shld expert look like.

To all my enemies, am not in race with anybody am only doing my thing. Pls i beg u in the name of God u serve free me!!! Haba i get God oooo


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Nothing of such , just coming to site and not getting the deal is his pain

flekky07:
Na wa ooo... If you hv collect commitment charges this argument will not come. .. Did u mean she collected archy, structure stamped from you without pay?

segzy14:
@dennis3D, you don't need to insult the client, keeping quiet will be ideal. Wetin eyes never see, some client don sign documents and even collect account number and you won't hear from them again, heaven did not fall now. Take it easy bro.

Oga segzy14, is that the normal thing? Or that is how it's operate? Just asking?

Enyinne:
Nothing of such , just coming to site and not getting the deal is his pain

OK, u got smtin cheaper ur reason to cancel deal? If that is the case 3D no need feel offended.

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Exactly, he didnt render any service to me rather than coming to inspect a proposed site . He sent me his condition of work and bill of which i didnt pay nor sign with him as i got better deal , now he ran online to say I scammered him .

flekky07:
OK, u got smtin cheaper ur reason to cancel deal? If that is the case 3D no need feel offended.

CeasersWay:
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Pls kindly let me know the cost of this. I have a client that might need it in a project we are working on. Also are you in Lagos?

flekky07:
OK, u got smtin cheaper ur reason to cancel deal? If that is the case 3D no need feel offended.

Not all. The moderators here has the full detail. She is quick to say things here because I can't drop voice note and calls here.

Your just a greedy architect,looking for ways to extort ur client and since i didnt fall to be one of ur preys ,u resort to name calling , u hv our waz app chats , table here how I scam u . Did i even demand for ur acct details in the first place or did u summit any plan for me in any form .

Dennis3D:


Not all. The moderators here has the full detail. She is quick to say things here because I can't drop voice note and calls here.

Enyinne:
Tell me what exactly u did for me , is it visiting of site u intend to work on ? Is it not part of ur duty as engineer to do before u accept a job ? And drafting a rigorous agreement that will cause issue along the line ? Oga i got an engineer that is more qualified, experienced, affordable and less cumbersome. I quickly got on his boat ,within 2weeks foundation done and dusted , now we are heading to decking of the house and possibly roof it before i take a rest as body no be fire wood

please let's stop argument my sis and my bro.
let's peace reign.

please sis enyinee remember in ur roofing biko edakun eshanu aje

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Dennis3D:


Not all. The moderators here has the full detail. She is quick to say things here because I can't drop voice note and calls here.

I will advise you drop the matter.
There is a place you seemed to have called her a scammer and made some threats but no shred of evidence so far, you can summarize the voice notes.
My advise is drop this, as a service provider it does not help you and based on what I have read so far you may not really have ground for the allegations you have made.
For sake of your brand and in line with Hajj Mufutah Baba's advise please drop it.
Thank you.

Considering that I only view this thread, i doubt i have ever commented I will say this.

A woman has been called a prostitute, scammer and all what's not for a deal that didn't go through.

I wonder what will happen if commitments have been made, papers signed and serious issues arise. I was actually thinking it was something else when I saw the accusations. I have read more serious client contractor issues here.

Mr Dennis3D I will tell you from a neutral point of view, your handling of this was very wrong.

A lot of people would be very weary of contacting you for a job.

You are accusing her for not giving you a job and hurling such insults on her person even going as far as calling her a criminal that's very very low.

Dennis3D:


Not all. The moderators here has the full detail. She is quick to say things here because I can't drop voice note and calls here.

Going through the thread with the name calling like scammer, prostitute etc, all because someone didnt offer you a Job, then I think you really need to have a rethink cos no one is entitled to anything.
I know of someone that travelled from Lagos to Abuja for a job interview and was not offered the job. Is he suppose to sue the company because he miss out on the job?
What about football players that goes for trial/medical, at the end, the suppose club will pull out of the deal. What re they suppose to do?
Mr Dennis3D, for the sake of your brand, you have to tender a full note apology to her cos it's not good for your brand. This might make you loss prospective customers/client