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donjazet:
I saw this and while it was nice, it was more like Liverpool today. A counter attacking team that was very direct just as he later did with Madrid.

But with sarri, you could see that for the first time we could have a good team structure that will be able to possess the ball efficiently and also create chances from all over the pitch, from defense to attack. This was unique for us.

I am not here to glorify sarri but incase you haven't noticed, I don't join the bandwagon in making my decisions.
I am picking the positives from last year but wholly condemning it as all of you would choose to do.

donjazet:

Under ancelloti, Chelsea played breathtaking football, smashing a lot of attacking records and winning the double in his first season, during this period he was praised and loved by all.

Expert17:
Some Chelsea fans no sabi ball I swear

- Jorginho good player

- Chelsea under Sarri played the best attacking football ( make Anceloti catch you)

- Rudiger @ 27 needs a good partner to stop making individual errors

popizaino:
Tell us his achievement s with Napoli that he had all the time in the world to fully implement his style with ?

Expert17:
Some Chelsea fans no sabi ball I swear

- Jorginho good player

- Chelsea under Sarri played the best attacking football ( make Anceloti catch you)

- Rudiger @ 27 needs a good partner to stop making individual errors

donjazet:
Everybody here knows that you are the most stupid, half-baked beer parlour analyst here.

Your shambolic record is there for all to see. What happened to the kryowiach, bellotti, coquelin and others who you touted as world beaters.

You will be making noise and be chest beating like a gorilla. Try to sound sensible for once.

popizaino:
I get it kdb is probably the new kid on the bloc so his abilities are still very fresh in your memory but sorry to disappoint you those of us who don't forget easily remember fabregas as well doing even better than this those times against tougher opponent than kdb ever faced.

thorrvik55:
Wow. Agenda must agenda I guess. So today Ancellotti 2009/2010 was all counter attacking??
I'm guessing the guy that made the post below claiming Ancellotti's Chelsea played breathtaking attacking football was not u



It's obvious u are a staunch Sarri supporter for u to rubbish Ancellotti's Chelsea in a bid to push ur Sarri agenda.
I'm sure if u are asked to rank all previous Chelsea managers in terms of achievement and pattern of play, u would put Sarri as number 1.

thorrvik55:
Rudiger at 27 needs an experienced partner to teach him the very basics of defending?? Very funny something...

It's just like Arsenal fans saying they need a top CB to be paired with Mustafi for his comical defending to stop when everyone knows Mustafi would still make his normal mistakes even if he is paired with prime Baresi..

Greatihex:
The way many of you people here use this word in terms of trophies annoys me.

What do you mean?

Na from bench Fabregas dey deliver trophy?


Where were Kante, Luiz, Hazard etc when Costa and Fabregas were delivering this trophy?

FBS:
Lol but damn it, this is just irritating to read.
How many wingers you know wey sabi defend, are creative and scores goal all at once? How you dey take watch football sef? On radio? Smh.
A player even Lampard says he respects yet you wanted him out? I've you ever played football in your life, Mr. Limited?

Willian will start in any team and not just because he is faster than most players even at 32, he is a very good player. How many players are like that?
It's just that Willian would prefer to stay in London, otherwise I'd say he should look after himself and max whatever his options are for the future.

thorrvik55:
Wow. Agenda must agenda I guess. So today Ancellotti 2009/2010 was all counter attacking??
I'm guessing the guy that made the post below claiming Ancellotti's Chelsea played breathtaking attacking football was not u

It's obvious u are a staunch Sarri supporter [b]for u to rubbish Ancellotti's Chelsea [/b]in a bid to push ur Sarri agenda.
I'm sure if u were asked to rank all previous Chelsea managers in terms of achievement and pattern of play, u would put Sarri as number 1.

donjazet:
I don't know how one outlining past events in our club means the person loves the past coach to the detriment of the present.

Chelsea's fan base is really a complicated group, though understandably brought upon by the unstable nature of the club.

Chelsea have consistently gone from extreme high to extreme lows. We're famed for our apparent lack of faith in managers and the fans have zero undrrstanding of the word loyalty.
We consistently make the same mistakes.


Under ancelloti, Chelsea played breathtaking football, smashing a lot of attacking records and winning the double in his first season, during this period he was praised and loved by all. The next season, the team was still performing fairly but man-u under Ferguson found their feet again and won the league and the fans who had earlier praised ancelloti turned on him and demanded his head. On this same forum, people argued that he didn't know what he was doing and that the players were responsible for his success not him.

He was sacked and went on to achieve greater things.

Likewise under mourinhos second tenure, he brought back the league to SB after four years, only for most fans here to turn on him the minute things went bad, maybe sacking him at that point was a good decision for the team but my problem is that people here laid all the blame on him while absolving the players of any.

Like wise conte and sarri. Coaches who started extraordinarily well and liked by the fans only to be turned against the moment things went pear-shaped.

Of course, all these managers had some degrees of faults of their own making, however, can someone tell me what is wrong in outlining the positive aspects of their stay here?
Once a coach has been sacked, many people just cast them off as failures, a lot of fans here will tell you how they hate ancelloti, Mourinho, conte or sarri. But these are coaches with varying degrees of success.

Chelsea fans are mostly derided by other team fans as the least intelligent and intellectual, why do we give them the ammo needed for their derision?
Someone says something and a lot of people latches on to the bandwagon whether it's true or false.

There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the good qualities of other coaches work.
That I'm doing that does not mean that I don't like Lampard or wish him to fail.

Any Chelsea fan who bears ill will towards the club is clearly a troll and not a supporter.
Lampard's tenure has got off to a flying start and we wish and hope that it is an indicator of great things to come.

airmark:
Did VVD, Koulibaly, Dias, Dunk etc, need a good partner before top clubs chased them?

You are insane.

raumdeuter:
Chelsea chased Rudiger and bought him unless you are admitting that Chelsea is not a top club like I told BlueAngel444

raumdeuter:
Chelsea chased Rudiger and bought him unless you are admitting that Chelsea is not a top club like I told BlueAngel444

Swissh:
Hensben you dodged my previous question. If Lazio finish above inter Milan has Conte failed for the season?

airmark:
Chelsea were stupid for chasing kponkpon defender like Rudiger, when we should have signed VVD.

I banged it to ignorants like you and dinjazet but you didn't know sh1t.

At that time we needed a permanent solution and Chelsea foolishly settled for an average defender. A decision, haunting us now.

raumdeuter:
Did Chelsea chase Rudiger or not

Is Chelsea a top club or not

Always resist the urge to shalaye

donjazet:
Once again, you have exposed your binary mode of thinking.

So because I said ancelloti's type of football was a counter attacking football and direct, it automatically means I don't rate it abi Somehow, you have understood my post to be denigrating to ancelloti.

We don't have to down grade one manger to elevate another.
Ancelloti was a great manager for us.
I believe that sarri too had a positive impact on the team. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

Moreso, you are being deceitful if not outrightly foolish for highlighting just a small part of that post, when it's aim was to pass exactly the same message I am passing now.

donjazet:
I usually reference sarri because, under him we played the most scintillating attacking football I have ever seen at Chelsea

donjazet:
Ancellotti's Chelsea was more like Liverpool today. A counter attacking team that was very direct just as he later did with Madrid.

But with sarri, you could see that for the first time we could have a good team structure that will be able to possess the ball efficiently and also create chances from all over the pitch, from defense to attack. This was unique for us.

donjazet:
Under ancelloti, Chelsea played breathtaking football, smashing a lot of attacking records.

donjazet:
I usually reference sarri because, under him we played the most scintillating attacking football I have ever seen at Chelsea

thorrvik55:
I never said u don't rate Ancellotti's football at Chelsea. The crux of this whole discussion was this statement below:


How can u make the bolded statement above and still come out to say "we don't have to downgrade one manager to elevate another", when u did just that. Downgrading the attacking exploits of Ancellotti's Chelsea to push ur Sarri agenda.

This is a typical case of speaking from both sides of the mouth and typing without thinking.. Today, Ancellotti's Chelsea was all about counter attacks (I wonder wot u would call Conte's Chelsea)


But b4 today, Ancellotti's Chelsea played breathtaking attacking football


No sane football fan would make the assertions you've made here today. Even rival fans in a bid to troll won't come out to make the statement below

donjazet:
You really didn't need to start abusing him for having a different opinion from yours especially seeing as you have a very limited knowledge on the press resistance issue you are yapping about.

I grimaced softly when I saw your very limited definition of press resistance.
Do you even know what press resistance is?
It is simply the ability to resist high pressure from your opponent. The individual press resistance can be achieved via two ways; by dribbling or by passing..
Did you know that kovacic and kante are very good press resistant players despite being limited passers? This is because they easily evade pressure and maintain the ball when pressed by the opponent.

As a matter of fact, the concept of using press resistance players as DM's are fairly new or were very rare. It is Barça that introduced this concept by using xavi and busquet as DM's.
Makalele, matic and other renowned DM's were not really press resistant because their roles in their teams were very different.
Press resistant defensive midfielders are instrumental for teams that aim to recycle possession and keep the ball. That's why kloop doesn't care about this because he doesn't play a possession based football.

Please before lashing out at individuals like that, you yourself have to be adequately informed about the topic on which you speak.

Greatihex:
You are still the same man on another during your usual hazard insult that will tell us that it was Fabregas and Costa that already won us the trophy by December, even though we were on same points with City on New year's day.

airmark:
Typical scummy, comprehension is always a problem. Lana1, pls explain my post to your brother.

Unlimited22:
Chairman, calm down. A wing forward's primary job is not to track back and defend. It is to create chances, deliver assists and score goals.
Willian has scored 9 PL goals this season and it is his best ever scoring season, at least in the PL. And he's the wrong side of 30 as far as sport is concerned.

I want him replaced, but given the evidence that we need defensive reinforcements as a thing of urgency, he can stay as he's a good backup option but he shouldn't be first option on the wings next season. What's slanderous in this statement?

thorrvik55:
I never said u don't rate Ancellotti's football at Chelsea. The crux of this whole discussion was this statement below:
How can u make the bolded statement above and still come out to say "we don't have to downgrade one manager to elevate another", when u did just that. Downgrading the attacking exploits of Ancellotti's Chelsea to push ur Sarri agenda.

This is a typical case of speaking from both sides of the mouth and typing without thinking.. Today, Ancellotti's Chelsea was all about counter attacks (I wonder wot u would call Conte's Chelsea)
But b4 today, Ancellotti's Chelsea played breathtaking attacking football
No sane football fan would make the assertions you've made here today. Even rival fans in a bid to troll won't come out to make the statement below

donjazet:
You really didn't need to start abusing him for having a different opinion from yours especially seeing as you have a very limited knowledge on the press resistance issue you are yapping about.

I grimaced softly when I saw your very limited definition of press resistance.
Do you even know what press resistance is?
It is simply the ability to resist high pressure from your opponent. The individual press resistance can be achieved via two ways; by dribbling or by passing..
Did you know that kovacic and kante are very good press resistant players despite being limited passers? This is because they easily evade pressure and maintain the ball when pressed by the opponent.

As a matter of fact, the concept of using press resistance players as DM's are fairly new or were very rare. It is Barça that introduced this concept by using xavi and busquet as DM's.
Makalele, matic and other renowned DM's were not really press resistant because their roles in their teams were very different.
Press resistant defensive midfielders are instrumental for teams that aim to recycle possession and keep the ball. That's why kloop doesn't care about this because he doesn't play a possession based football.

Please before lashing out at individuals like that, you yourself have to be adequately informed about the topic on which you speak.

donjazet:

I saw this and while it was nice, it was more like Liverpool today. A counter attacking team that was very direct just as he later did with Madrid.

In what way were we like today?ancelloti teams are always the direct opposite of klopps team.
The former has everything not to do with speed but experience unlike klopp who cares only about speed.

But with sarri, you could see that for the first time we could have a good team structure that will be able to possess the ball efficiently and also create chances from all over the pitch, from defense to attack. This was unique for us.

This just proved me right that you saw little of Chelsea pre sarri with this statement.don't be swayed by those occasional long balls gamble from David Luis that lead to assists as the reason for creating from back or could it be that your meaning of creating chances is just aimless passes in the midfield ?

I am not here to glorify sarri but incase you haven't noticed, I don't join the bandwagon in making my decisions.

OK

I am picking the positives from last year but wholly condemning it as all of you would choose to do.

timbros:
Is Poch a failure? Just asking...

popizaino:
The only positive last season was having hazard .

donjazet:
I usually reference sarri because, under him we played the most scintillating attacking football I have ever seen at Chelsea, especially the first half of the season.

donjazet:
Now I see why Ibime called you a dumb pundit.

Ibime I apologize for my error in countering your stance about this buffoon.
Come carry back your wahala.

donjazet:
How are you this daft? At this point i am frustrated trying to be pedagogic with you on this.

I'll make one last effort, after that you're o.y.o.
Guardiola and kloop both play nice attacking football, but both have different methods and philosophies in achieving that.

Ancelloti's method mirrors kloop's method while sarri's method mirrors guardiola's method. That I compare one to the other doesn't translate to me downgrading one over the other. I can't go further than this.