Why do shekpites have to rest for 5 days while we rest for just 2 before our match on Sunday? We won’t take this injustice. We shall investigate!

Botfuss:
Why do shekpites have to rest for 5 days while we rest for just 2 before our match on Sunday? We won’t take this injustice. We shall investigate!

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donjazet:


I will be pedagogic with you on this. Read the below and be duly informed on jorginho's exact role. You are being biased when you say jorginho makes only back passes, clearly you were blind not to see the precise long passes he made when switching the game to both sides.

Can jorginho find his teammates with long ball that would be difficult for tv to spot ?

macjireh:

oboi if EPL take its toe on city by striping dem of top4 and making them to end in 5th position,, dats d end of their UCL dream next season... EPL can deduct 20points just to accommodate nanU should in case they don't qualify

EPL can't strip them of anything. UEFA and co have got into the problem of trying to play auditors where they have no jurisdiction. Accountants will always meet any FFP target you set, and Football bodies have no jurisdiction to claim those accounts are falsified when they are not the legal auditor of those accounts, nor are they Government who collect tax based on the output of those accounts. They are just paper tiger making noise. You can't change something Auditors and Govt have already accepted. Or do you expect Man City to go back to UK Government and say we lied in our accounts, which carries criminal consequences?

Accountants are always finding ways to inflate short term profit to meet FFP Target, and there's nothing UEFA can do about it.

Take Melo and Pjanic. Barca and Juventus agree the difference between those players is £12m. Melos price should more like £40m and Pjanic more like £28m but they were sold for £72m and £60m respectively.

In accounting, when you sell an asset for more than it's carrying value, you declare profit on disposal.

Ignoring salaries, the carrying value of Melos asset was about £20m based on his initial £30m transfer fee from Gremio and the fact he's run down 2 years of his 6 year contract. If Barca need to meet FFP target, they will just sell Melo for £72m, booking a £52m profit toward meeting FFP, meanwhile their expenditure for this year for Pjanic ignoring salary is only £12m assuming he signed 5 year contract (£60m divided by 5 years).

In simply swapping out Melo for Pjanic, Barca have recorded a net increase in profit of £40m just on that arrangement (£52m profit on disposal for Melo less £12m amortised yearly cost of Pjanics transfer fee) and UEFA can go to hell with their FFP cos the target has been met, and it's legal and follows all accounting standards.

Same thing City did with Danilo and Joao Cancelo in order to meet FFP. How can Cancelo be worth £67m and Danilo be worth £40m. Na just clever accounting to meet FFP.

Ibime:


Being a Regista doesn't mean you should be useless at all other aspects of DM play. Thank God they mentioned Veratti, so we can know our own Regista is shortchanging us.

And if you mention Pirlo, Alonso etc, you will see that our own is Aba made version.

Other players who even have escort tendencies like Busquets and Rodri at least have strength and cannot be bullied off the ball, they can all travel with the ball on the half-turn for a few metres to push the team up and are also very useful aerially to stop teams going long to beat the midfield.

Our own regista cannot hustle like Veratti, cannot ping through passes like Pirlo and Alonso, cannot hold opponents off physically like Busquets and Rodri and cannot compete in the air like them either.

When our own regista is not escorting, players are running through his back and shading him off the ball to run directly at our defence. Oya, satisfy us with some long through passes like Pirlo, he no gree.

If we wanted a Regista with the pace and physical weakness of a 12 year old boy, we would have just kept Josh McEachran than waste our time.

People like to throw names of Pirlo and co around, but there have been many less successful registas in football. That's like associating every DM with Makelele or every right-back with Cafu. The name Regista does not automatically imply excellence. Many Spanish and Italian teams have been relegated with Registas playing in their middle. Borja Valero relegated West Brom playing there. Those are the registas we should be associating Jorginho with, not Pirlo.

This is ridiculous. You will stop at nothing to rubbish a unique player. Jorginho is one hell of a good regista. He smashed passing records in both seria A and the EPL Incase you've forgotten.

The guy knows how to pass, this is unarguable, he is our best passer. The problem is the undefined system he finds himself and the attackers surrounding him.
Last I checked, all our attackers have been sub-par since last season bar hazard.
You cannot be blaming only him for our team woes. He has some weaknesses as do all registas and almost all midfielders, it's down to the other midfielders to complement and also play their role.
It's really unfortunate but it has to be said that kante has been regressing, sort of, since the end of last season and this one.

Kovacic seems to only know how to drive with the ball, nothing else, he can't tackle well, he can't pass well and he is clueless in front of goal. Our team has a lot of deficiencies but jorginho is actually playing his role well as evidenced by our control of games with him in it. If others played their role well, we would have a wonderful team. jorginho is currently one of the best registas in the game. its unfortunate that your bias wont let u see this.

https://www.elartedf.com/jorginho-regista-rainy-english-afternoon/
https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/jorginho-s-role-in-chelsea
https://ftbltalenthub./2018/08/16/player-analysis-jorginho-the-regista/

Ibime:


Being a Regista doesn't mean you should be useless at all other aspects of DM play. Thank God they mentioned Veratti, so we can know our own Regista is shortchanging us.

And if you mention Pirlo, Alonso etc, you will see that our own is Aba made version.

Other players who even have escort tendencies like Busquets and Rodri at least have strength and cannot be bullied off the ball, they can all travel with the ball on the half-turn for a few metres to push the team up and are also very useful aerially to stop teams going long to beat the midfield.

Our own regista cannot hustle like Veratti, cannot ping through passes like Pirlo and Alonso, cannot hold opponents off physically like Busquets and Rodri and cannot compete in the air like them either.

When our own regista is not escorting, players are running through his back and shading him off the ball to run directly at our defence. Oya, satisfy us with some long through passes like Pirlo, he no gree.

If we wanted a Regista with the pace and physical weakness of a 12 year old boy, we would have just kept Josh McEachran than waste our time.

People like to throw names of Pirlo and co around, but there have been many less successful registas in football. That's like associating every DM with Makelele or every right-back with Cafu. The name Regista does not automatically imply excellence. Many Spanish and Italian teams have been relegated with Registas playing in their middle. Borja Valero relegated West Brom playing there. Those are the registas we should be associating Jorginho with, not Pirlo.

Well put but stop this busquest slandering .

airmark:


You and this your Fraudiola ehn. Make you no do like eruditor next season, thinking Fraudiola without Messi will repeat that feat at Barca, with City.

Till he changes his backline and return Fernandino back to the DMF role I won't be stupid to bank on his team to do the impossible.

popizaino:



Till he changes his backline and return Fernandino back to the DMF role I won't be stupid to bank on his team to do the impossible.

Fernandinho legs are gone.

plessis:
If you're a Chelsea fan reading this, I want you to know that you have a higher chance losing to Norwich than losing to Liverpool.

We Liverpool fans will celebrate with you while you score us at anfield.

The goal is to send yoonited to Europa so that they can play on the patchy, dusty pitches in Kazakhstan and Belarus while we use super story to relax on Thursday after playing champions league football on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Come again, we can't hear you sir.

donjazet:


Ibime, enough with the jorginho slander.
It's difficult seeing you diss a player like an unseasoned pundit just because of your personal dislike for the player.

There are very few deep playing midfielders like Toni kroos or Xabi who are finely tuned both defensively and offensively.
Nobody here ever taught of jorginho as a box to box midfielder. Even when he was at Italy, he was known for his passing. He broke records for his passes. He is a player who is attuned to a particular system.

Jorginho's role in a team is as a regista of which there are very few like Sergio busquet, rodri, Pirlo etc.

When signing jorginho, we knew we would have to pair him with hard working box to box midfielders like kante and Barkley to complement his poor work rate.

Look at other regista's in football, Sergio busquet has been very vital to Barça in the last 10 years because he perfectly suits their pattern and philosophy, but if he was brought into a kloop team that is purely a high intensity and high energy football or even our team, watch how he would flop because the system doesn't match his attributes.
But if this same busquet went to mancity today, watch him easily slot in the way rodri has slotted in easily.

Don't forget that mancity were very close to signing him before we snatched the deal from them after signing sarri because we realized how important he was to "sarriball" which was the project the club had embarked upon at that time which we later broke away from.

Today, nobody in mancity expects rodri to be creative or defensive, his primary role is simply to recycle possession with lateral and diagonal passes, connecting the defense to the attack via passes and ensuring safe transitioning. This is simply his work.

Jorginho has simply become a victim of Chelsea's managerial instability. Sarriball was the only reason we signed him and now he is stuck with a manager that doesn't need his skill set since he subscribes to a different philosophy of football. This doesn't mean he is a rubbish player like you would like everyone to believe.

These were our immediate reactions here when he was signed.

see hensben mouth like one of my favourite players in the world.. now mouth don change..

He must be an APC member

OJURONGBE1:


Enough of the hype abeg
That guy hasn't done anything spectacular for this Chelsea team although he has played well.
I missed Hazard sha !
None of our current squad is good at taking on players one on one, draw more bodies and create spaces in between, may be Hakim would do that next season.

we don't need shaku shaku things again..

cole01:


Never fancied busquets, was just lucky to be a a very compact team, would fail woefully outside barca, and don't say Spain because he played with same squad. As for Rodri at least I see him taking shots, making tackles and all that not playing backward passes like Jorginho.
Even pep is leaving the failed system which has since been exposed and you want us to play that, do you really love this club bro.
Why do you think Klopp beats Pep almost all the time, even Ole did a triple over him, we even beat them at the bridge...... Look at what Juve looks like now...... Every football tactic must be figured out and I think that has been figured out already. Stop forcing us to play a failed system of football which has since gone extinct..... With such passes believe me we would never defeat that united side I watched yesterday even with the draw.... You just need press resistant defenders with a proper DM who can assist and high quality finishers to beat this system..... And Chelsea doesn't even press hard due to the help of Mr Jorginho the Italian maestro, no killer passes, no shots, only 2cm passes like a 2 year old kid and been runned over like a doormat.

a system that was used even by a national team to win worldcup and Euro

A system which has seen trophies won in across 3 countries a failed system.

Please close your browser because you don't know what you are saying.

This must be a student of airmark citadel of football knowledge

Ibime:


Being a Regista doesn't mean you should be useless at all other aspects of DM play. Thank God they mentioned Veratti, so we can know our own Regista is shortchanging us.

And if you mention Pirlo, Alonso etc, you will see that our own is Aba made version.

Other players who even have escort tendencies like Busquets and Rodri at least have strength and cannot be bullied off the ball, they can all travel with the ball on the half-turn for a few metres to push the team up and are also very useful aerially to stop teams going long to beat the midfield.

Our own regista cannot hustle like Veratti, cannot ping through passes like Pirlo and Alonso, cannot hold opponents off physically like Busquets and Rodri and cannot compete in the air like them either.

When our own regista is not escorting, players are running through his back and shading him off the ball to run directly at our defence. Oya, satisfy us with some long through passes like Pirlo, he no gree.

If we wanted a Regista with the pace and physical weakness of a 12 year old boy, we would have just kept Josh McEachran than waste our time.

People like to throw names of Pirlo and co around, but there have been many less successful registas in football. That's like associating every DM with Makelele or every right-back with Cafu. The name Regista does not automatically imply excellence. Many Spanish and Italian teams have been relegated with Registas playing in their middle. Borja Valero relegated West Brom playing there. Those are the registas we should be associating Jorginho with, not Pirlo.

veratti is not a regista to me. Doesn't look like one

donjazet:


This is ridiculous. You will stop at nothing to rubbish a unique player. Jorginho is one hell of a good regista. He smashed passing records in both seria A and the EPL Incase you've forgotten.

The guy knows how to pass, this is unarguable, he is our best passer. The problem is the undefined system he finds himself and the attackers surrounding him.
Last I checked, all our attackers have been sub-par since last season bar hazard.
You cannot be blaming only him for our team woes. He has some weaknesses as do all registas and almost all midfielders, it's down to the other midfielders to complement and also play their role.
It's really unfortunate but it has to be said that kante has been regressing, sort of, since the end of last season and this one.

Kovacic seems to only know how to drive with the ball, nothing else, he can't tackle well, he can't pass well and he is clueless in front of goal. Our team has a lot of deficiencies but jorginho is actually playing his role well as evidenced by our control of games with him in it. If others played their role well, we would have a wonderful team. jorginho is currently one of the best registas in the game. its unfortunate that your bias wont let u see this.

https://www.elartedf.com/jorginho-regista-rainy-english-afternoon/
https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/jorginho-s-role-in-chelsea
https://ftbltalenthub./2018/08/16/player-analysis-jorginho-the-regista/

Jorginho lost possession on 10 occasions against Norwich last night and besides this, he was dribbled past by an opposition player three times, as per sofascore.

Is that your definition of "doing his job well?"

You're accusing Ibime of hating a unique player, and influencing other fans' views on Jorginho, tell me, how did he manage to reach out to the Twitter community with his hate?

After the Sheffield United's game, I screenshot and shared with y'all some reactions from some sections of our fan base on Twitter, they were all cussing Jorginho.

Below are few other reactions from Twitter after the scrappy win over Norwich. Does Ibime run Twitter bro?

From one of the tweets, you can clearly read where Frank Khalid was complaining of Jorginho making him feel nervous each time he receives the ball. This might just be one of our Iranian fans in his 50s being forced to develop High BP by your midfield god.

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Ibime:


EPL can't strip them of anything. UEFA and co have got into the problem of trying to play auditors where they have no jurisdiction. Accountants will always meet any FFP target you set, and Football bodies have no jurisdiction to claim those accounts are falsified when they are not the legal auditor of those accounts, nor are they Government who collect tax based on the output of those accounts. They are just paper tiger making noise. You can't change something Auditors and Govt have already accepted. Or do you expect Man City to go back to UK Government and say we lied in our accounts, which carries criminal consequences?

Accountants are always finding ways to inflate short term profit to meet FFP Target, and there's nothing UEFA can do about it.

Take Melo and Pjanic. Barca and Juventus agree the difference between those players is £12m. Melos price should more like £40m and Pjanic more like £28m but they were sold for £72m and £60m respectively.

In accounting, when you sell an asset for more than it's carrying value, you declare profit on disposal.

Ignoring salaries, the carrying value of Melos asset was about £20m based on his initial £30m transfer fee from Gremio and the fact he's run down 2 years of his 6 year contract. If Barca need to meet FFP target, they will just sell Melo for £72m, booking a £52m profit toward meeting FFP, meanwhile their expenditure for this year for Pjanic ignoring salary is only £12m assuming he signed 5 year contract (£60m divided by 5 years).

In simply swapping out Melo for Pjanic, Barca have recorded a net increase in profit of £40m just on that arrangement (£52m profit on disposal for Melo less £12m amortised yearly cost of Pjanics transfer fee) and UEFA can go to hell with their FFP cos the target has been met, and it's legal and follows all accounting standards.

Same thing City did with Danilo and Joao Cancelo in order to meet FFP. How can Cancelo be worth £67m and Danilo be worth £40m. Na just clever accounting to meet FFP.

And auditors are fine with these arrangements?

Are there acceptable valuation methodologies for the assets (players)? I am assuming that external auditors determine fair value (or arm's length value) of the swap transactions, which means they could ask management to make adjustments in their books to reflect the true state of the deals. Also, auditors can still rely on management's estimates, they just need to verify/be comfortable with the valuation model.

EPL and/or UEFA just need to commission an independent assessment of City deals, just like when you tell one of the big 4 firms (not auditing City) to do an independent review. They can easily nail Man City.

Shebi UEFA is like a regulator to football clubs in Europe?

I was here bítches

More cahsouts to my people out there grinding all day

https://twitter.com/_VALKlNG/status/1283088634732838914?s=09


These are the same people that took my brother and I, but one lowlife idiot that changes profession because he fails at everything think you can have a say against armed SARS

YO! 9300.

Congrats, you guys just won your last match of the season.

Na tears una go take end this campaign, I swear by the lilac blood of Otum .

9300. Here's to finishing 3rd and compounding scummy woes on Sunday.

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Wow didn't miss it, we are definitely not missing 3rd position

lordfalcao:
veratti is not a regista to me. Doesn't look like one

me sef shock to see veratti mentioned among regista

popizaino:



Can jorginho find his teammates with long ball that would be difficult for tv to spot ?

He did actually
The first chance Giroud squandered.
We have been so prejudiced against Jorginho but nobody is saying anything about Kovacic.
Dude cannot score goals, he doesn't create , he's not a good tackler .What exactly is he good at ?

nitrogen:


And auditors are fine with these arrangements?

Are there acceptable valuation methodologies for the assets (players)? I am assuming that external auditors determine fair value (or arm's length value) of the swap transactions, which means they could ask management to make adjustments in their books to reflect the true state of the deals. Also, auditors can still rely on management's estimates, they just need to verify/be comfortable with the valuation model.

Each asset (a player's contract) is unique and therefore buying or selling prices are determined by what a buyer is willing to pay first and foremost, and is easily justifiable. Footballers are intangible assets and their value is determined by their age, contract length, buyout clause, desperation of the buying club etc, not to mention popularity of the player like social media following etc.

Juve can easily justify a fading 30 year Pjanic valuation of £60m by pointing at 29 year old Koulibalys valuation of £75m, or Kepas price of £72m. That's an easy one to justify sef. £60m may have even been the value of his buyout clause.

I cannot see any reason why any top-flight footballer will be sold for under £100m and anyone can advise them to restate the value. Auditors are accountants not football scouts and will lose credibility themselves trying to advise on what is not their area of expertise.

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Symbolic. Magical. Iconic.

Finishing 3rd Position this season.

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i wAs here


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