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PLEASE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ATHEISTS OR HALF BAKED CHRISTIANS
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.
But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God, and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them. I don't like begging people for money and I always tell God that I don't want to depend on anyone for money and I'm not going into the ministry for the sake of riches. So "experienced people" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

This question should be for your spiritual fathers.

Asking on Nairaland can even destroy your faith. Do you want advice from atheist, muslims, and religious bigots?

EngineerBode:
This question should be for your spiritual fathers.

Asking on Nairaland can even destroy your faith. Do you want advice from atheist, muslims, and religious bigots?

what the heck are spiritual fathers? Was Jesus' warning that you call no man you Father on this earth meaningless garbles to you?

Ay92:
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.

being a minister doesn't mean you shouldn't hustle.. pastor also need to work.. not depend on tithe and offerings

EngineerBode:
This question should be for your spiritual fathers.

Asking on Nairaland can even destroy your faith. Do you want advice from atheist, muslims, and religious bigots?

Thanks for the response

I've asked them but I'm not satisfied with their responses. Only one of them has a side job which is just typing programs to be printed on his laptop, he does the typing in the church office. They all said that it's better to not have a side job. But I want to know more from people outside my circle. I'm really afraid of poverty and I don't like begging people for money. My fiancee is already complaining ( her case is a story for another day)

Ay92:
Thanks for the response

I've asked them but I'm not satisfied with their responses. Only one of them has a side job which is just typing programs to be printed on his laptop, he does the typing in the church office. They all said that it's better to not have a side job. But I want to know more from people outside my circle. I'm really afraid of poverty and I don't like begging people for money. My fiancee is already complaining ( her case is a story for another day)

Let me advice you,

Have a job. As a pastor, if you do not beg your members for food, you will have respect. If you don't have a money, hunger will make you to start doing fake prophecies and visions to cajol people to give you money.

Jesus, the son of God, the I am that I am, the way the truth and the life, he did a side hustle o.. He was a carpenter. He was doing it without shame sef.

Your problem is that you live off from the opinions of people which is bad.

dingbang:
Jesus, the son of God, the I am that I am, the way the truth and the life, he did a side hustle o.. He was a carpenter. He was doing it without shame sef.

Your problem is that you live off from the opinions of people which is bad.

Respectfully, you're wrong
If I'm living off people's opinion, I wouldn't be asking for advice here.

Jesus talked about money more than any other temptation. More than sex. More than power. More than heaven and hell. Some of his best-known words, in his most-remembered sermon take about money.
“You cannot serve God and money” (Matthew 6:24).
before your become prosperous in business you most first of all love money.
when Jesus sent the disciple did they lack anything?
all the disciple of Jesus were into business before he called them, some were into fishing business but he ask them to leave their business and follow him, some even left there father and follow Jesus e. g the son of Zebedee

it's the responsibility of every church to provide for the pastor need

Jones4190:
Jesus talked about money more than any other temptation. More than sex. More than power. More than heaven and hell. Some of his best-known words, in his most-remembered sermon take about money.
“You cannot serve God and money” (Matthew 6:24).
before your become prosperous in business you most first of all love money.
when Jesus sent the disciple did they lack anything?
all the disciple of Jesus were into business before he called them, some were into fishing business but he ask them to leave their business and follow him, some even left there father and follow Jesus e. g the son of Zebedee

it's the responsibility of every church to provide for the pastor need

This is one of the things that confuses me and part of why I opened this thread.
The church of nowadays don't see the need to cater for their pastors, and I've vowed that I will never look to any church member for money, that's why I'm seeking opinion from EXPERIENCED PEOPLE about having a side job.

Ay92:
PLEASE THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ATHEISTS OR HALF BAKED CHRISTIANS
Hello everyone!
This issue has been bothering me for a very long time now. I knew I would be a man of God ever since I was a small boy. But I still went ahead to pursue my education. I completed my NYSC in 2017 and since then I've got no good job. So I went ahead to learn barbing which till this day I don't understand despite having clippers. I had to forcefully register at a theological seminary not long ago after receiving a very strong warning in my dreams that I will suffer a lot if I don't return to the ministry that God has called me to.
But what worries me now is that I don't know if things are difficult because I didn't heed the call of God, and then all the men of God around me are full time pastors and things are sometimes difficult for them. I don't like begging people for money and I always tell God that I don't want to depend on anyone for money and I'm not going into the ministry for the sake of riches. So "experienced people" ,CAN I HAVE A SIDE JOB LIKE A BARBER SHOP ALONG SIDE THE MINISTRY?

Ay92:
Thanks for the response

I've asked them but I'm not satisfied with their responses. Only one of them has a side job which is just typing programs to be printed on his laptop, he does the typing in the church office. They all said that it's better to not have a side job. But I want to know more from people outside my circle. I'm really afraid of poverty and I don't like begging people for money. My fiancee is already complaining (her case is a story for another day)

Ay92:
This is one of the things that confuses me and part of why I opened this thread.
The church of nowadays don't see the need to cater for their pastors, and I've vowed that I will never look to any church member for money, that's why I'm seeking opinion from EXPERIENCED PEOPLE about having a side job.

"³³"I never wanted anyone's silver, gold or clothes
³⁴You know that I worked to support myself and those who were with me.
(i.e. You yourselves know that these hands of mine have ministered to my own needs and those of my companions)
³⁵I have given you an example that by working hard like this we should help the weak.
We should remember the words that the Lord Jesus said, 'Giving gifts is more satisfying than receiving them.'""
- Acts 20 :33-35

"¹Then Paul left Athens and went to Corinth.
²There he became acquainted with a Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus,
who had recently arrived from Italy with his wife, Priscilla.
They had left Italy when Claudius Caesar deported all Jews from Rome.
³Paul lived and worked with them, for they were tentmakers just as he was.
⁴Each Sabbath found Paul at the synagogue, trying to convince the Jews and Greeks alike."
- Acts 18:1-4

Adam was given work to do in the garden. He already had a responsibility before Eve was added to his trust, so your fiancée has the right to be be concerned

I don't favour using the word "hustle", I will prefer you use positive words, like income/finance stream, progressive passive income and/or residual Income.

Of course, as a sharp moG, you should engage in having a legitimate income/finance stream, progressive passive income and/or residual Income. You must not given to filthy lucre or greedy for money though [i.e. 1 Timothy 3:3, 8]

if you wouldn't mind sir, you can reach me on WhatsApp -08099611392. We can talk better. I understand the feelings and the fears.

MuttleyLaff:
"³³"I never wanted anyone's silver, gold or clothes
³⁴You know that I worked to support myself and those who were with me.
(i.e. You yourselves know that these hands of mine have ministered to my own needs and those of my companions)
³⁵I have given you an example that by working hard like this we should help the weak.
We should remember the words that the Lord Jesus said, 'Giving gifts is more satisfying than receiving them.'""
- Acts 20 :33-35

"¹Then Paul left Athens and went to Corinth.
²There he became acquainted with a Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus,
who had recently arrived from Italy with his wife, Priscilla.
They had left Italy when Claudius Caesar deported all Jews from Rome.
³Paul lived and worked with them, for they were tentmakers just as he was.
⁴Each Sabbath found Paul at the synagogue, trying to convince the Jews and Greeks alike."
- Acts 18:1-4

Adam was given work to do in the garden. He already had a responsibility before Eve was added to his trust, so your fiancée has the right to be be concerned

I don't favour using the word "hustle", I will prefer you use positive words, like income/finance stream, progressive passive income and/or residual Income.

Of course, as a sharp moG, you should engage in having a legitimate income/finance stream, progressive passive income and/or residual Income. You not given to filthy lucre though or greedy for money (i.e. 1 Timothy 3:3,

Wow!
Thank you so much for your contribution and biblical references

Dynamicfort:
if you wouldn't mind sir, you can reach me on WhatsApp
We can talk better. I understand the feelings and the fears.

Done

Ay92:
Wow!
Thank you so much for your contribution and biblical references

"If you need wisdom, ask our generous God,
and he will give it to you. He will not rebuke you for asking."
- James 1:5

There are a 1001 ways you can start or activate a legitimate income/finance stream, progressive passive income and/or residual Income and without you needing to give to filthy lucre or be greedy for money.

Talk with God, to clear you with direction and witty ideas.

Are You A Levite?

Is it not written, "Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well?"

Or is it not written that

"He that tilleth his land shall be satisfied with bread: but he that followeth vain persons is void of understanding."

Dtruthspeaker:
Are You A Levite?

Is it not written, "Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well?"

Or is it not written that

"He that tilleth his land shall be satisfied with bread: but he that followeth vain persons is void of understanding."

"¹⁷For it is testified: “You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.”
¹⁸So the former commandment is set aside because it was weak and useless…"
- Hebrews 7:17-18

"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood (i.e. a king and priest rolled into one)
a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession,
to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light."
- 1 Peter 2:9

Levite is old school. We are using the Melchizedek priesthood order, which is secular (i.e. king) and spiritual (i.e. priest).
The Levitical priesthood is spiritual only, it is something of a handicap, it is limiting.

Jesus overlooked the Levitical priesthood, to prefer and select the Melchizedek priesthood for us.

2 Thessalonians 3:8-12

8 Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail [/b]night and day, [b]that we might not be chargeable to any of you:

9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.

10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.

12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

Ay92:
This is one of the things that confuses me and part of why I opened this thread.
The church of nowadays don't see the need to cater for their pastors, and I've vowed that I will never look to any church member for money, that's why I'm seeking opinion from EXPERIENCED PEOPLE about having a side job.

If Pastors must do business alongside the work of God for any reason whatsoever, then they MUST stop collecting Tithe because God asked the children of Israel to pay tithe to the Levites because He forbid them from doing any other job or business apart from working in the synagogue.
remember we have 12 houses of Israel and the twelfth one is the levites who were charged with the responsibilities of taking care of the Synagogue. God specifically chose them among the 12 houses and He said they cannot own land nor farm but they must devote all their live in the Synagogue. For this reason, He charged the remaining eleven houses to bring the 10% of their fruits into the house of God so that there would be food and money for the chosen levites.

Numbers 18:20

Jones4190:
If Pastors must do business alongside the work of God for any reason whatsoever, then they MUST stop collecting Tithe because God asked the children of Israel to pay tithe to the Levites because He forbid them from doing any other job or business apart from working in the synagogue.
remember we have 12 houses of Israel and the twelfth one is the levites who were charged with the responsibilities of taking care of the Synagogue. God specifically chose them among the 12 houses and He said they cannot own land nor farm but they must devote all their live in the Synagogue. For this reason, He charged the remaining eleven houses to bring the 10% of their fruits into the house of God so that there would be food and money for the chosen levites.

Numbers 18:20

We are not operating the Levitical order, but we are using a superior order of Melchizedek

dingbang:
Jesus, the son of God, the I am that I am, the way the truth and the life, he did a side hustle o.. He was a carpenter. He was doing it without shame sef.

Your problem is that you live off from the opinions of people which is bad.

Actually there is no indication that Jesus Christ indeed worked as a carpenter after His baptism was recorded.

@Ay92, if I were you, i would be more concerned ib making sure I am serving the one true God and not the God of the church-world that has produced so many who do "nothing" in the name of God.
By nothing i mean that their service and worship is nothing but filthy rags to God because they worship the doctrines and traditions of men rather than God's word and Truth as presented by Jesus Christ Himself.

truespeak:
2 Thessalonians 3:8-12

⁸ Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought;
but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
⁹Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
¹⁰For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
¹¹For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
¹²Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

Gbam

Actually, this forum is not the best place to get a convincing answer. As a young man of God, what is most important is God's divine guidance. God can never be wrong and you need to seek God's guidance in situations like this. God does not leave His children without the guidance from the Holy Spirit.
On the situation at hand, don't expect any spiritual father to tell you to have or not have a side job. God who is leading you into the ministry has the blueprint and plan in His hand if you can trust Him enough to guide you.
I am in a full time ministry and it's not a sin to have a side job. But what is most important is what God is saying.

MuttleyLaff:
We are not operating the Levitical order, but we are using a superior order of Melchizedek

if you are not operating the levit order why are you collecting tithes?

Jones4190:
if you are not operating the levit order why are you collecting tithes?

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Have I ever solicited tithe from you or anyone you know?

treasuremi1:
Actually, this forum is not the best place to get a convincing answer. As a young man of God, what is most important is God's divine guidance. God can never be wrong and you need to seek God's guidance in situations like this. God does not leave His children without the guidance from the Holy Spirit.
On the situation at hand, don't expect any spiritual father to tell you to have or not have a side job. God who is leading you into the ministry has the blueprint and plan in His hand if you can trust Him enough to guide you.
I am in a full time ministry and it's not a sin to have a side job. But what is most important is what God is saying.

This forum is one of the best place to get a convincing answer. You are even parrotting advice(s) already proffered on this forum to OP

treasuremi1:
Actually, this forum is not the best place to get a convincing answer. As a young man of God, what is most important is God's divine guidance. God can never be wrong and you need to seek God's guidance in situations like this. God does not leave His children without the guidance from the Holy Spirit.
On the situation at hand, don't expect any spiritual father to tell you to have or not have a side job. God who is leading you into the ministry has the blueprint and plan in His hand if you can trust Him enough to guide you.
I am in a full time ministry and it's not a sin to have a side job. But what is most important is what God is saying.

hmm!
Thank you so much

MuttleyLaff:
"¹⁷For it is testified: “You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.”
¹⁸So the former commandment is set aside because it was weak and useless…"
- Hebrews 7:17-18[/color

This Part Belongs Only to the Lord, Jesus Christ, and Paul simply stated this to explain to the Hebrews, The Submission and Compliance of Christ with Law of Sin Offerings!

Christ is Both the High Priest and the Holy Lamb Offering for Sin!

No man can lay Claim to it!

My respectful, opinion.

MuttleyLaff:
"
"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood (i.e. a king and priest rolled into one)
a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession,
to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light."
[color=#990000]- 1 Peter 2:9

This Part Belongs To Every Follower and Lover of God, Being Separated Unto Him As Abraham's Descendants, Not Just Pastors or Priests, but for Every Follower of Christ [Deuteronomy 7:6- "For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth." And Repeated Again in Deuteronomy 14:2.

MuttleyLaff:
"
Levite is old school. We are using the Melchizedek priesthood order, which is secular (i.e. king) and spiritual (i.e. priest).
The Levitical priesthood is spiritual only, it is something of a handicap, it is limiting.

Jesus overlooked the Levitical priesthood, to prefer and select the Melchizedek priesthood for us.

It was the same Paul who raised the Melchizedek Priesthood, you are utilising, who himself said

"Neither did we eat any man's bread for bought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you. As we all do.

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, (this is Expressly Prohibited) but are busybodies.

Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread."
2 Thessalonians 3:8-11.

dingbang:
Jesus, the son of God, the I am that I am, the way the truth and the life, he did a side hustle o.. He was a carpenter. He was doing it without shame sef.

Your problem is that you live off from the opinions of people which is bad.

You just pretended like you don't see people's mentions on your thread.
Na wa oo

Dtruthspeaker:
This Part Belongs Only to the Lord, Jesus Christ, and Paul simply stated this to explain to the Hebrews, The Submission and Compliance of Christ with Law of Sin Offerings!

Christ is Both the High Priest and the Holy Lamb Offering for Sin!

No man can lay Claim to it!

My respectful, opinion.

Where does royal priesthood belong?
Is it the Levitical order or the Melchizedek order?
The kingly and priestly statuses we are enjoying is in line with the order of Melchizedek style. Didnt you compute that ni?

Dtruthspeaker:
It was the same Paul who raised the Melchizedek Priesthood, you are utilising, who himself said

"Neither did we eat any man's bread for bought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you. As we all do.

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, (this is Expressly Prohibited) but are busybodies.

Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ[b], that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread."[/b]
2 Thessalonians 3:8-11

It is in the Levitical order that you are restricted to only doing temple duties/work and nothing else. As a Levite, you aren't expected to earn a secular living. You are not entitled to have an inheritance or own a land. Every other tribe in Israel had a land inheritance except for the tribe of Levi

calebify1:
You just pretended like you don't see people's mentions on your thread.
Na wa oo

Hi Calebify, thank you for your mention. I'll visit the thread at my discretion as stated in the body of the writeup.