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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:14pm On Jul 24, 2020
EarlRagnar2:
I blame fraudiola,this Liverpool boy don find his voice after spending 50 years in the wilderness grin

Na your club spend 50yrs before winning EPL and that was with financial doping and Abrahamovic dirty money,your club was lucky FFP was not in place then,the reason why you have gather small trophies and wants to look Liverpool in the eye? No your elders boy...

This was your club some years after you were born,fucking RENT BOYS!!!! Them use 450 NAIRA BUY YOUR CLUB,SPITS!!!!

TELL ME SAY ITUNES CARD YAHOO BOYS NO FIT BUY YOUR CLUB grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:17pm On Jul 24, 2020
donjazet:

Secondly, you seem to be in astute denial that the UK is the global headquarters for money laundering. I can't even begin to delve into that with you and be a pedagogue. You need to go and learn that yourself or continue to be in denial. One question though, Why do you think London is called the financial capital of the world?
At least nihilist knows this.


Don't confuse money laundering with Investment. Laundering is the process of converting dirty money to clean. The minute Putin or Russian banks allowed those Russians to transfer funds out of Russia and none of them are under corruption probe in Russia, that money is legitimate. What they bring the money to UK to do is invest it. It is not up to UK to intervene in Russia's internal affairs. Abramovic was a Governor in Russia and owned Sibneft, a large oil company for years. He has no corruption problem with Russian authorities. If he did and Russia requested that UK freeze his money, UK would do so.

Stop blaming market for the nature of the people that go to the market. Even kidnappers and killers spend money in the market. The market is only there to provide a service to all and sundry who want to buy something, and London is an investment market.

You can apply the same stigma to anywhere where corrupt people spend money. After the Ibori and Deizani cases, when Nigerian politicians saw that UK Government is ready to chase anybody in London that Nigerian Govt request they pursue, Nigerian politicians switched their investments to Dubai. They are all in Dubai now. Because Atiku et al are all now investing in Dubai, should we now blame Dubai for laundering Nigerian money?

That money was laundered and made clean the moment CBN allowed Atiku to transfer funds to Dubai. As far as Dubai is concerned, Atiku is a legitimate citizen of the world, free to invest wherever he wishes because Nigeria have no outstanding warrant on him for corruption.

Fix your internal corruption problem and stop blaming money markets for handling money. It is their job to handle money from anyone who brings it, not to Police the World. Wetin concern a London banker with where Buruji Kashamu or Dino Melaye got his money from. Do they know these guys? Money is only dirty when a Court of Law or Central bank says it's dirty.

If London banks now start rejecting Nigerian transactions like PayPal, you would be the first to scream racism. Do you know that a London bank does not know 99.99% of Nigerian politicans by name or how they made their money? So how would they stop Nigerian corruption without taking the PayPal approach?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:20pm On Jul 24, 2020
CAPdan21:

Check madrid most used XI dis season...to say valverde would bench Henderson is ludicrous and plain ignorant...perhaps you're a madrid fanboy sha
your mistake is failing to realize that Valverde plays a different role to Henderson and so Henderson can never replace Valverde. It's like saying a CB will replace a LB undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 7:38pm On Jul 24, 2020
Nikeballer:


He wins duels grin like say football na gidigbo.....outdated style wey Spain,Germany,Italy,guardiola,klopp etc don leave behind....he wants to use injuries to cover Kante two poor seasons like hendo is not the more injury prone amongst them two...

Go check your facts,Kante has more cards in the last 3years than hendo....

Una just dey shalaye,make Una bring Kante stats come out,make we trash am grin....football mo Farah.....

Liverpool plays more attack than leceister,Chelsea under conte who always invited pressure and lunch a fast break or counter attack so how do you expect hendo to have a lot of duels like the Liverpool Vs arsenal match for example where doing all the playing...guy you dunno ball grin


Did you read what i posted there at all ?
I said Ngolo Kante has never been sent off since he got to England which justifies my report about him making clean tackles without looking to injure any opponent.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:42pm On Jul 24, 2020
macjireh:

and I say we are scared.....pls don't torment us more na cheesy
For real though, Chelsea will lose. Better pray that we beat Leicester so that you can make top four tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 7:49pm On Jul 24, 2020
I thought i told y'all to ignore the weirdo. But una no hear word. Now you have a low-budget Raumdeter running riot and spewing rubbish all over the place. All the best in dealing with the pest.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 7:50pm On Jul 24, 2020
Ibime:


Don't confuse money laundering with Investment. Laundering is the process of converting dirty money to clean. The minute Putin or Russian banks allowed those Russians to transfer funds out of Russia and none of them are under corruption probe in Russia, that money is legitimate. What they bring the money to UK to do is invest it. It is not up to UK to intervene in Russia's internal affairs. Abramovic was a Governor in Russia and owned Sibneft, a large oil company for years. He has no corruption problem with Russian authorities. If he did and Russia requested that UK freeze his money, UK would do so.

Stop blaming market for the nature of the people that go to the market. Even kidnappers and killers spend money in the market. The market is only there to provide a service to all and sundry who want to buy something, and London is an investment market.

You can apply the same stigma to anywhere where corrupt people spend money. After the Ibori and Deizani cases, when Nigerian politicians saw that UK Government is ready to chase anybody in London that Nigerian Govt request they pursue, Nigerian politicians switched their investments to Dubai. They are all in Dubai now. Because Atiku et al are all now investing in Dubai, should we now blame Dubai for laundering Nigerian money?

That money was laundered and made clean the moment CBN allowed Atiku to transfer funds to Dubai. As far as Dubai is concerned, Atiku is a legitimate citizen of the world, free to invest wherever he wishes because Nigeria have no outstanding warrant on him for corruption.

Fix your internal corruption problem and stop blaming money markets for handling money. It is their job to handle money from anyone who brings it, not to Police the World. Wetin concern a London banker with where Buruji Kashamu or Dino Melaye got his money from. Do they know these guys? Money is only dirty when a Court of Law or Central bank says it's dirty.

If London banks now start rejecting Nigerian transactions like PayPal, you would be the first to scream racism. Do you know that a London bank does not know 99.99% of Nigerian politicans by name or how they made their money? So how would they stop Nigerian corruption without taking the PayPal approach?

I see you have convienetly left out the role of shell in all this.

To be very clear, there are two basic points which we are arguing about which you have responded to.
1. That Nigerian leaders have to fix their own corruption.
2. That Britain does not participate in any form of money laundering.

My response to this; how will Nigeria fix their own corruption when Britain (via Shell) still wields a very direct significant influence on its economy and by extension policy making? I have told you to go and research the role shell is playing in Nigeria's economy but you are dayoing your way out of it.

Secondly, i know the difference between investment and money laundering. Britain's financial system is one that enables all sorts of people to easily clean and hide their money with complex financial loopholes and secrecy laws.
I will share a video for you again that breaks this down very well.

you could say that it doesn't really concern Britain where the money comes but there have been a huge moral outcry over Britain allowing narco dollars, Russian oligarchs, tax evaders and corrupt government politicians from easily securing their dirty money in Britain via the city of London and other British dominions like the Cayman Islands, Bermuda etc.

I would really love to engage further with you on this but I'm quite busy tonight. Another day, we'll pick this up. But for the main time, calm down and digest this two hour documentary. It'll aid you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zT9pa5AOuE

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Prectega(m): 8:06pm On Jul 24, 2020
Destiny awaits

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:12pm On Jul 24, 2020
donjazet:


I see you have convienetly left out the role of shell in all this.

My response to this; how will Nigeria fix their own corruption when Britain (via Shell) still wields a very direct significant influence on its economy and by extension policy making? I have told you to go and research the role shell is playing in Nigeria's economy but you are dayoing your way out of it.

lol. That's how you were jumping from Deizani to London Financial markets back to Shell the other day.

I can't be dealing with confusion.

Shell tax and Royalties to Nigeria per year is about 4% of Nigerian Govt Revenue (roughly N400bln we get from Shell per year from roughly N10bln yearly Govt Revenue)

DonJ as usual avoiding personal responsibility to blame the bogeyman. If a nigga who contributes 4% of your Revenue per year is responsible for your corruption, you might as well sell the country.

I'm sure the amount Akpabio and co revealed as being stolen from NDDC alone during lockdown is more than the N400bln Shell pays to Govt per year.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:34pm On Jul 24, 2020
chic2pimp:


Mane gets my vote.

Dayo calls [b]most [/b]of these awards "Polling Booth" and you know what, He actually has a valid point.

grin

He will have a rethink when they put Boathand in Fifa best 11 once. Unfortunately it will never happen.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 8:40pm On Jul 24, 2020
If una like make una keep spamming the thread with long shalaye and political discussions.

On Sunday...oh Sunday the day of the Lord. His will shall be fulfilled, Insha Allah.

Lord, we welcome you
into this place

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 8:47pm On Jul 24, 2020
CAPdan21:

Check madrid most used XI dis season...to say valverde would bench Henderson is ludicrous and plain ignorant...perhaps you're a madrid fanboy sha
bros, Madrid didn't have any most used XI, and talking about most used players, i think you need to know that ZZ used 4 mids in many games....so know ur facts well before you say it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 8:52pm On Jul 24, 2020
BlueAngel444:
your mistake is failing to realize that Valverde plays a different role to Henderson and so Henderson can never replace Valverde. It's like saying a CB will replace a LB undecided
how is their role and position different
What's Hendo's role??
What's Valverde's role??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 8:54pm On Jul 24, 2020
airmark:


grin

He will have a rethink when they put Boathand in Fifa best 11 once. Unfortunately it will never happen.

I said most grin.....The Sports Writer's German Footballer of the Year for instance still counts grin. 2016 was His best year though(He was superb at the Euros)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:56pm On Jul 24, 2020
chic2pimp:


I said most grin.....The Sports Writer's German Footballer of the Year for instance still counts grin. 2016 was His best year though(He was superb at the Euros)

We praised the Lord.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:58pm On Jul 24, 2020
donjazet:


Secondly, i know the difference between investment and money laundering. Britain's financial system is one that enables all sorts of people to easily clean and hide their money with complex financial loopholes and secrecy laws.
I will share a video for you again that breaks this down very well.

you could say that it doesn't really concern Britain where the money comes but there have been a huge moral outcry over Britain allowing narco dollars, Russian oligarchs, tax evaders and corrupt government politicians from easily securing their dirty money in Britain via the city of London and other British dominions like the Cayman Islands, Bermuda etc.

There is no grand conspiracy vis-a-vis financial structures.

First of all, Britain and other Western countries are the biggest losers to tax avoidance/minimisation. This is why a poor David Beckham is consistently in the top taxpayers in Britain with only circa £12m tax per year whilst a behemoth like Google only pays £5m in tax by off-shoring in Ireland. In a country like Britain, you expect companies and people to be paying tax of hundreds of millions per year, but they are not, because they are offshore. Britain largely relies on tax from millions of regular Joe Bloggs like me rather than the rich.

It is everybody's shared problem, not a conspiracy from Britain against Nigeria or whatever. Why do you think American President Trump refused to release his tax records - cos it would be a sorry sight. This is the reality on ground for all countries.

Global Accounting standards are that a company is considered for tax reasons to belong to the country from which control is exercised (usually defined as where it's board meetings are held). Therefore we have many companies making billions in Britain and paying little tax by off-shoring elsewhere. Same way for income tax, most rich people are domiciled in tax havens such as Switzerland, Monaco etc

So no, Britain is as much a victim as anyone else. On the other hand, there are dozens of other countries with more opaque financial secrecy laws than Britain such as USA, Japan, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Singapore etc before we even get to the smaller islands.

I have mentioned to you before that countries compete with each other on tax rates. The lower your tax, the more companies want to incorporate with you. It is better for a small Island to get 1% of Apples billions in Revenue than to get 20% of Ikechukwu and sons few thousands. It is a race to the bottom. As companies spring up in these places, then financial services are built up including Trusts, shell company structures etc. Britain and USA are equally chasing these islands to release details of their citizens hiding money there.

This is the reality of Financial markets. If you think Britain is your bogeyman, I assure you there are dozens of other countries with more opaque systems that will easily take your money and are already doing so. Stop blaming money markets.

The only way to cure corruption is to penalise looters through your internal justice system rather than thinking a complex international money market will go chasing down your money. Nothing can ever stop people from hiding money. If every country and Island close all secrecy and tax loopholes, niggas will still hide it in Bitcoin wallet. Only strong judiciary can curb corruption, end of story.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:03pm On Jul 24, 2020
OJURONGBE1:



Did you read what i posted there at all ?
I said Ngolo Kante has never been sent off since he got to England which justifies my report about him making clean tackles without looking to injure any opponent.

Yes, there are accumulation of yellow cards which leads to suspension but it's different from what i put up there .

Your ignorance knows no bound at all.
Is Fabinho ,Fernandinho not playing for those two attacking minded clubs, tell me what they do differently?

Where was this your Hendo since 2014 for an unknown French man to come over from a league 2 and dominate the league.

Enough of me trying to school you .
When any of those revered coaches eulogize your HENDO as world class, then we will have a conversation.

Some people are best ignored

Nothing u say can make them reason differently

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 9:06pm On Jul 24, 2020
Another polling booth grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 9:13pm On Jul 24, 2020
BlueAngel444:
your mistake is failing to realize that Valverde plays a different role to Henderson and so Henderson can never replace Valverde. It's like saying a CB will replace a LB undecided
What diff role??..both are box to box midfielders except hendo sometimes plays DM if fabinho is injured/suspended...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 9:16pm On Jul 24, 2020
Herbiedeen:
bros, Madrid didn't have any most used XI, and talking about most used players, i think you need to know that ZZ used 4 mids in many games....so know ur facts well before you say it
Bros check the minutes of madrid various midfielders you'll see who was constant or not...from what I saw during the season modric was usually d odd man out except they were going 4 a diamond midfield..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:22pm On Jul 24, 2020
Mbappe just suffered a horror tackle Heard his ankle bent inside...whoa
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:06pm On Jul 24, 2020
airmark:


We praised the Lord.

I knew this was coming grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:10pm On Jul 24, 2020
Ibkayee spammy got you too huh?Pele grin.....Just got realised from my short stint in prison. Still banned from the tv section though embarassed embarassed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ibkayee(f): 10:42pm On Jul 24, 2020
chic2pimp:
Ibkayee spammy got you too huh?Pele grin.....Just got realised from my short stint in prison. Still banned from the tv section though embarassed embarassed
Lol I got banned by the antispam bot, I’m unbanned now though. I think you missed my quote telling you not to quote me embarassed tongue grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:52pm On Jul 24, 2020
E don be for una.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:53pm On Jul 24, 2020
BlueMann:
Mbappe just suffered a horror tackle
Heard his ankle bent inside...whoa

Yyup.

https://twitter.com/jutin__/status/1286749292418543616?s=21
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:55pm On Jul 24, 2020
ibkayee:

Lol I got banned by the antispam bot, I’m unbanned now though. I think you missed my quote telling you not to quote me embarassed tongue grin

LOOOL grin cheesy...Guessed as much as you stopped posting abruptly. Nah I saw it and I did exactly what you told me to do. My only offence was quoting you methinks. You were Spammy's intended target. I was just collateral damage embarassed grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:56pm On Jul 24, 2020
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ibkayee(f): 10:57pm On Jul 24, 2020
chic2pimp:


LOOOL grin cheesy...Guessed as much as you stopped posting abruptly. Nah I saw it and I did exactly what you told me to do. My only offence was quoting you methinks. You were Spammy's intended target. I was just collateral damage embarassed grin
Sorry grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 11:02pm On Jul 24, 2020
ibkayee:

Sorry grin

grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 11:06pm On Jul 24, 2020
pkasso:
I thought i told y'all to ignore the weirdo. But una no hear word. Now you have a low-budget Raumdeter running riot and spewing rubbish all over the place. All the best in dealing with the pest.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by onyemaair: 11:50pm On Jul 24, 2020
Nikeballer:
..

Guy, e don do you now. why are you spamming the thread with all this nonsense
Abeg carry your wahala dey go back where you come from.
kiloshe?

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