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Re: by Kenn55: 1:08am On Jul 23, 2020
Bevista:
According to official figures on the WHO website, road accident kills over 60k per year in Nigeria. Last time I checked, total number of deaths from Covid-19 is less than 1k.

If it's about public health and saving lives, should the government not be more concerned about road accidents? Also, as some of those accidents are a result of irresponsible behaviors (like over speeding), should the government not enforce a 15km/hr speed limit on all highways, so that irresponsible drivers like you (who like to do over 100km/hr) will not cost the lives of other innocent road users? Go figure!

If there was no corona virus or if there was a way to stop it, that less than that 1k Nigerians as you said would probably have been alive today. These are people's mother, father, sisters, brothers, children, breadwinners. They are not just mere statistics. It could be you tomorrow but i pray it shall never get to you. Probably you do not know anyone who has died due to covid, i know someone who could have been alive today if not for covid. He was bouncing and okay as at July 1st but he is no more today. How do you think his family he left behind is feeling?

Let us also not forget why covid 19 is a problem. It is not just because it is killing people but it is also a problem because it is capable of making large number of people sick at the same time thereby overwhelming current hospital capacities and health care workers. What is means is that even people with other health conditions, pregnant women needing emergencies etc may not be able to see a bed space when needed in the peak of the crisis so they also are in danger for lack of care plus the fact that they can also contract the disease if they hospital is filled with covid patients. If covid could only sicken say 30 people in a month, nobody would have seen it as a problem as health care systems will handle it.

So what is being fought is not just the covid but to ensure that health care system is not overrun and put others who do not have covid but will need health care system in danger.

Or maybe you want people to keep dying of corona virus after all malaria and accident also kill more people? Why would we allow more avenues of death rather than reducing the avenues people could die. Are we then making the world a more dangerous place or trying to make it better? Just think about it for a second

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Re: by Kenn55: 1:53am On Jul 23, 2020
sweetmelanin:



First of all coronavirus is not a death sentence. Those who have lost their lives had severe underlying issues, are elderly or immunocompromised.

Secondly, if you are wearing a mask and you truly believe it gives you ultimate "protection", how does the next man's refusal to wear one affect you in anyway? Afterall you've got your mask on!

Some people think because they are not elderly or immunocompromised therefore they are 100% healthy but that reasoning is fatally flawed. Someone could have underlying health conditions without even knowing. Besides, why should the elderly or immunocompromised allowed to die if it can be preventable? Would you be happy if your elderly grandma dies as a result of covid? Or if a diabetic person you know die due to covid complications? If they have to die, let them die at their appointed time not because of covid.

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Re: by Bevista: 1:55am On Jul 23, 2020
Kenn55:


If there was no corona virus or if there was a way to stop it, that less than that 1k Nigerians as you said would probably have been alive today. These are people's mother, father, sisters, brothers, children, breadwinners. They are not just mere statistics. It could be you tomorrow but i pray it shall never get to you. Probably you do not know anyone who has died due to covid, i know someone who could have been alive today if not for covid. He was bouncing and okay as at July 1st but he is no more today. How do you think his family he left behind is feeling?

Let us also not forget why covid 19 is a problem. It is a problem because it is capable of making large number of people sick at the same time thereby overwhelming current hospital capacities and health care workers. What is means is that even people with other health conditions, pregnant women needing emergencies etc may not be able to see a bed space when needed in the peak of the crisis so they also are in danger plus the fact that they can also contract the disease if they hospital is filled with covid patients. If covid could only sicken say 30 people in a month, nobody would have seen it as a problem as health care systems will handle it.

So what is being fought is not just the covid but to ensure that health care system is not overrun and put others who do not have covid but will need health care system in danger.

Or maybe you want people to keep dying of corona virus after all malaria and accident also kill more people? Why would we allow more avenues of death rather than reducing the avenues people could die. Are we then making the world a more dangerous place or trying to make it better? Just think about it for a second
You probably missed my point. I was in no way trying to trivialize the Covid-19 deaths.

My point is - why are you so interested in stopping those 1000 Covid-19 deaths but show absolutely no concern whatsoever for the 60k road accident deaths? The reality is - the only reason you rank Covid-19 deaths higher is because the media wants you to...not because it is truly more important. They even tell you to wear a face mask just to create a mass consciousness. You happily wear that nonsense despite the obvious health implications of breathing recycled Co2. Go read about Respiratory Acidosis.

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Re: by ednut1(m): 2:16am On Jul 23, 2020
What kind of lame incoherent post is this. What exactly are you on about. Didn't we take vaccines from white man as children in Nigeria. Consider coming home cos of vaccine Lame.

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Re: by Kenn55: 2:23am On Jul 23, 2020
Bevista:
You probably missed my point. I was in no way trying to trivialize the Covid-19 deaths.

My point is - why are you so interested in stopping those 1000 Covid-19 deaths but show absolutely no concern whatsoever for the 60k road accident deaths? The reality is - the only reason you rank Covid-19 deaths higher is because the media wants you to...not because it is truly more important. They even tell you to wear a face mask just to create a mass consciousness. You happily wear that nonsense despite the obvious health implications of breathing recycled Co2. Go read about Respiratory Acidosis.

It is not about the media, it is common sense. Road accidents are not contagious and i don't believe authorities are not concerned about road accidents.
In the country where i live, nobody drives a car without passing a road test. You will carry an inspector and drive round inner roads and highway and demonstrate that you understand all road rules and can apply them before you are giving a licence to drive. There are penalties applied when you are caught violating road rules. Yet accidents still kill thousands of people yearly. So what else do you want them to do in that regard? Should they now do nothing about covid because they have not been able to solve the problem of road accidents?

I highlighted why the issue of covid is not just about deaths alone In case you missed it, see below

"Let us also not forget why covid 19 is a problem. It is a problem because it is capable of making large number of people sick at the same time thereby overwhelming current hospital capacities and health care workers. What is means is that even people with other health conditions, pregnant women needing emergencies etc may not be able to see a bed space when needed in the peak of the crisis so they also are in danger plus the fact that they can also contract the disease if they hospital is filled with covid patients. If covid could only sicken say 30 people in a month, nobody would have seen it as a problem as health care systems will handle it."

Media or no media, every life that dies is regrettable. So if there is something that can be done to prevent deaths from covid, i don't think it should be a problem irrespective of the fact that other things are killing people too. If someone escape death by accident, should covid now kill the person?

Besides nobody wears masks 24/7. It is only required in public places. I don't wear mask all the time even though i go out because i'm not always in a public place. If masks was that dangerous, what of people who wear them everyday as part of their PPE in normal times?

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Re: by Nobody: 4:00am On Jul 23, 2020
etrange:
Nationwide vaccination program is not a new thing. If Africans don't want to be vaccinated, they can opt out but let people who need it proceed. We never come up with any solution but we're always the first to criticize others' strategies.
GOOD POINT BRO.
It goes to show that Most Africans do not have the NATURAL SENSE or TALENT that God shared.
Or they were probably absent when GOD was sharing common sense.


Very Soon PASTOR CHRIS and his useless cohorts will swing into action.
He blamed it on 5G.
He kicked against face mask.
Yet he has not proffered One Local solution.
This is someone who claims to be a PhD HOLDER.
They condemn everything, yet he will be the first to buy APPLE TABLET...
He will be the first to acquire Range Rover and G WAGON.
He will acquire a PRIVATE JET...
NONSENSE.
I wish I could meet him in Person.
We really need 2 assist some people download sense.
STUPID FELLOWS every where.
Lazy CONTINENT.

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Re: by OchoL(f): 5:23am On Jul 23, 2020
EVILFOREST:

GOOD POINT BRO.
It goes to show that Most Africans do not have the NATURAL SENSE or TALENT that God shared.
Or they were probably absent when GOD was sharing common sense.


Very Soon PASTOR CHRIS and his useless cohorts will swing into action.
He blamed it on 5G.
He kicked against face mask.
Yet he has not proffered One Local solution.
This is someone who claims to be a PhD HOLDER.
They condemn everything, yet he will be the first to buy APPLE TABLET...
He will be the first to acquire Range Rover and G WAGON.
He will acquire a PRIVATE JET...
NONSENSE.
I wish I could meet him in Person.
We really need 2 assist some people download sense.
STUPID FELLOWS every where.
Lazy CONTINENT.


And you that is talking, what have you contributed with your "NATURAL SENSE and TALENT"?

Don't tell me you're also suffering from the same stupidity, lack of common sense and laziness you've just accused all Africans of cheesy

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Re: by Ashirioluwa: 5:24am On Jul 23, 2020
sweetmelanin:


And if they make the vaccination compulsory?

I will take than to come Naija
Re: by Abatemtem(m): 6:24pm On Jul 25, 2020
Bevista:
According to official figures on the WHO website, road accident kills over 60k per year in Nigeria. Last time I checked, total number of deaths from Covid-19 is less than 1k.

If it's about public health and saving lives, should the government not be more concerned about road accidents? Also, as some of those accidents are a result of irresponsible behaviors (like over speeding), should the government not enforce a 15km/hr speed limit on all highways, so that irresponsible drivers like you (who like to do over 100km/hr) will not cost the lives of other innocent road users? Go figure!
This reasoning no follow at all.

Nigeria has conducted less than 250k tests so far for a population of 200M and you're here bathing in mediocrity.
UK at it's height of testing was less than hundreds shy of 100,000 tests per day.
Na basic statistics and sampling issue be this
Re: by Bevista: 7:46pm On Jul 25, 2020
Abatemtem:

This reasoning no follow at all.

Nigeria has conducted less than 250k tests so far for a population of 200M and you're here bathing in mediocrity.
UK at it's height of testing was less than hundreds shy of 100,000 tests per day.
Na basic statistics and sampling issue be this
Stop trying to be clever by half. More tests will only increase the number of cases but will not increase the number of deaths.

And let's not even start with the acclaimed Covid-19 deaths cos if comorbifity issues are addressed, the real number of Covid-19 deaths will go down significantly.

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Re: by justwise(m): 7:50pm On Jul 25, 2020
Bevista:
Stop trying to be clever by half. More tests will only increase the number of cases but will not increase the number of deaths.

And let's not even start with the acclaimed Covid-19 deaths cos if comorbifity issues are addressed, the real number of Covid-19 deaths will go down significantly.

Are you this bad? Increase number of cases will not lead to increase number of deaths?

I blame Trump for this sort of reasoning.

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Re: by Bevista: 8:01pm On Jul 25, 2020
Kenn55:


Some people think because they are not elderly or immunocompromised therefore they are 100% healthy but that reasoning is fatally flawed. Someone could have underlying health conditions without even knowing. Besides, why should the elderly or immunocompromised allowed to die if it can be preventable? Would you be happy if your elderly grandma dies as a result of covid? Or if a diabetic person you know die due to covid complications? If they have to die, let them die at their appointed time not because of covid.
I agree completely that all preventable deaths should be prevented. But why are you lot so desperate to prevent only Covid-19 deaths?

The government allows Boko Haram and Herdsmen to slaughter 1000s of citizens every year. More than 100k maternal mortalities every year, more than 50k road accident deaths every year, I can go on and on. Malnutrition and poor access to proper medical care kills millions every year. Does these other lives not matter?

The globalists, through their media propaganda machines, have succeeded in brainwashing you lot to think that covid-19 is the worst thing to befall humanity. A virus with a 98% recovery rate and less than 0.2% case fatality rate.

I repeat, if this is about public health and saving lives, the government has more important issues to worry about.
Re: by Nobody: 8:08pm On Jul 25, 2020
Bevista:
I agree completely that all preventable deaths should be prevented. But why are you lot so desperate to prevent only Covid-19 deaths?

The government allows Boko Haram and Herdsmen to slaughter 1000s of citizens every year. More than 100k maternal mortalities every year, more than 50k road accident deaths every year, I can go on and on. Malnutrition and poor access to proper medical care kills millions every year. Does these other lives not matter?

The globalists, through their media propaganda machines, have succeeded in brainwashing you lot to think that covid-19 is the worst thing to befall humanity. A virus with a 98% recovery rate and less than 0.2% case fatality rate.

I repeat, if this is about public health and saving lives, the government has more important issues to worry about.

COVID-19 is a dangerous CONTAGIOUS disease for Bleep sake! What have you been reading and watching? Are you one of those pastor Chris followers?

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Re: by Bevista: 8:15pm On Jul 25, 2020
Activist001:


COVID-19 is a dangerous CONTAGIOUS disease for Bleep sake! What have you been reading and watching? Are you one of those pastor Chris followers?
It's so "dangerous" yet 98% of people who contract it have recovered without any known medication. Go figure!

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Re: by Bevista: 8:19pm On Jul 25, 2020
That's Anthony Fauci (middle), the slowpoke that keeps telling everyone to wear a face mask and keep a 2m social distance. Of course, he doesn't believe in that crap.

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Re: by youngRx(m): 8:44pm On Jul 25, 2020
OchoL:



And you that is talking, what have you contributed with your "NATURAL SENSE and TALENT"?

Don't tell me you're also suffering from the same stupidity, lack of common sense and laziness you've just accused all Africans of cheesy

atleast he is not condemning the genuine efforts of saner people with ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Re: by youngRx(m): 8:45pm On Jul 25, 2020
the problem with humans, and especially Africans, is that we are extremely selfish. as long as it does not affect us or our loved ones, we don't care what others feel.

i bet all these cospiracy theorists have not lost a loved one to covid-19 that's why. we saw the mass graves and how thousands were offloaded into them like dead animals, yet thats not convincing enough, some people are still chanting freedom and civil rights.

a very crazy time we live in now.

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Re: by Kenn55: 9:02pm On Jul 25, 2020
Bevista:
I agree completely that all preventable deaths should be prevented. But why are you lot so desperate to prevent only Covid-19 deaths?

The government allows Boko Haram and Herdsmen to slaughter 1000s of citizens every year. More than 100k maternal mortalities every year, more than 50k road accident deaths every year, I can go on and on. Malnutrition and poor access to proper medical care kills millions every year. Does these other lives not matter?

The globalists, through their media propaganda machines, have succeeded in brainwashing you lot to think that covid-19 is the worst thing to befall humanity. A virus with a 98% recovery rate and less than 0.2% case fatality rate.

I repeat, if this is about public health and saving lives, the government has more important issues to worry about.


Mtshewwwwwww
Re: by Impulse80(m): 6:25am On Jul 26, 2020
This Op's reasoning is so lame that I don't know how to start arguing with him. I won't be surprised that he's one one of those flat earthers.

The backfire effect is the tendency of some people to resist accepting evidence that conflicts with their beliefs. The effect is demonstrated when people presented with that conflicting information become even more convinced of their original beliefs rather than questioning them.
https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/backfire-effect
Re: by Bevista: 7:16am On Jul 26, 2020
youngRx:
the problem with humans, and especially Africans, is that we are extremely selfish. as long as it does not affect us or our loved ones, we don't care what others feel.

i bet all these cospiracy theorists have not lost a loved one to covid-19 that's why. we saw the mass graves and how thousands were offloaded into them like dead animals, yet thats not convincing enough, some people are still chanting freedom and civil rights.


a very crazy time we live in now.
Since when did you start showing such empathy for those that lost a loved one?

We've seen mass graves in Benue, Kaduna, Kogi, Borno etc resulting from the atrocities of Herdsmen & Boko Haram. Are those lives less valuable than those taken by Covid-19? Where was the national response? Where was the persistent media coverage?

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Re: by youngRx(m): 2:03pm On Jul 26, 2020
Bevista:
Since when did you start showing such empathy for those that lost a loved one?

We've seen mass graves in Benue, Kaduna, Kogi, Borno etc resulting from the atrocities of Herdsmen & Boko Haram. Are those lives less valuable than those taken by Covid-19? Where was the national response? Where was the persistent media coverage?

Excuse me?? Why d hell wud u ask when i started showing empathy?? Did i ever tell you i didn't used to show it before?

If the killings in kaduna and co can be prevented by taking a vaccine or wearing a face mask, then call me to end it. If not, then channel your fustration to the president and chief security officers in the country. Last time i checked, it is the duty of any responsible government to guarantee the safety and security of its citizens.

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Re: by themaestro08(m): 3:28pm On Jul 26, 2020
justwise:


No i'm not worried or planning to return home just because i'm asked to wear mask to protect myself and others around me.

I hate to tell you but the op aim is to taunt Nigerians (by reversely showing them how bad their country is)
Re: by justwise(m): 5:05pm On Jul 26, 2020
themaestro08:


I hate to tell you but the op aim is to taunt Nigerians (by reversely showing them how bad their country is)

I don't think so. This anti mask wearing is a trendy thing and many conspiracy theorists are up for it
Re: by themaestro08(m): 5:29pm On Jul 26, 2020
justwise:


I don't think so. This anti mask wearing is a trendy thing and many conspiracy theorists are up for it

Still, i am not sure any Nigerian abroad will contemplate coming back home just because of these inconveniences ( mandatory face masks, Nationwide vaccination and so on). The op knew these hence the ironic question.
Re: by ziziangel(m): 9:57pm On Jul 26, 2020
Bevista:
Since when did you start showing such empathy for those that lost a loved one?

We've seen mass graves in Benue, Kaduna, Kogi, Borno etc resulting from the atrocities of Herdsmen & Boko Haram. Are those lives less valuable than those taken by Covid-19? Where was the national response? Where was the persistent media coverage?

First of all, you should realize that the post/argument was originally hinged on corona vaccination in UK and if its enough reason why Nigerians should come home.

But, I still can't fathom how you left the case study and diverted the whole argument to road accidents in Nigeria & Boko Haram/Herdmen's killings. Abi Boko Haram don reach UK?

People sha angry

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