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Atheists Dare Explain This ! by chidera39(m): 10:45am On Jul 30, 2020
Quick question for those that don't believe in God .
You have your science-inspired terms, reasons and experiences that you use to emphasize your disbelief. you're able to explain the coming of the Bible, how religion came about and why it is false and unreal to justify your disbelief, But how do you explain the miracles; the casting of demons, healings, manifestation of the holy Spirit, the inner peace that comes with being born again ?? kiss
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:51am On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:
Quick question for those that don't believe in God .
You have your science-inspired terms, reasons and experiences that you use to emphasize your disbelief. you're able to explain the coming of the Bible, how religion came about and why it is false and unreal to justify your disbelief, But how do you explain the miracles; the casting of demons, healings, manifestation of the holy Spirit, the inner peace that comes with being born again ?? kiss

Ah! You should not have asked this question, it is an unsettlled debate and it is only when the Lord comes it can be settled. No man can win this argument now.

eh! Please eh change the header let them not come and put our Lord to scorn, mock and ridicule!
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by studentofTruth: 10:52am On Jul 30, 2020
Evidence of your miracles, independently verified. Forget all those hypnosis

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:57am On Jul 30, 2020
studentofTruth:
Evidence of your miracles, independently verified. Forget all those hypnosis

Miracles plenty but it is only those who saw it that can testify as to the Truth of it like when a child says he saw a rabbit in a hole, when you look you see nothing but you can not prove that he did not see the rabbit neither can the child prove that the rabbit was there, so non-suit is the Judgement!
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by studentofTruth: 11:40am On Jul 30, 2020
It's simple. Let them go to Igbobi and do the miracles. No need for endorphins-induced deja Vu.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by chidera39(m): 1:01pm On Jul 30, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Ah! You should not have asked this question, it is an unsettlled debate and it is only when the Lord comes it can be settled. No man can win this argument now.

eh! Please eh change the header let them not come and put our Lord to scorn, mock and ridicule!

It shouldn't even be an argument, they can't even answer this.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by IMAliyu(m): 1:28pm On Jul 30, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Miracles plenty but it is only those who saw it that can testify as to the Truth of it like when a child says he saw a rabbit in a hole, when you look you see nothing but you can not prove that he did not see the rabbit neither can the child prove that the rabbit was there, so non-suit is the Judgement!
So miracles are a personal thing?

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:16pm On Jul 30, 2020
IMAliyu:

So miracles are a personal thing?

The Most Common is Personal.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:22pm On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:


It shouldn't even be an argument, they can't even answer this.

Neither can you satisfactorily prove beyond reasonable doubt, beyond your personal knowledge, which they would require of you.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by IMAliyu(m): 2:49pm On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:
Quick question for those that don't believe in God .
You have your science-inspired terms, reasons and experiences that you use to emphasize your disbelief. you're able to explain the coming of the Bible, how religion came about and why it is false and unreal to justify your disbelief, But how do you explain the miracles; the casting of demons, healings, manifestation of the holy Spirit, the inner peace that comes with being born again ??
You've put yourself in a position where you now bare the burden of proof to show these "miracles; the casting of demons, healings, manifestation of the holy Spirit, the inner peace that comes with being born again" are real and not a phycological thing with the way you posed your dare.
I'm not an atheist, but I'm also not a believer in supernatural miracles, so I could give you a non spiritual perspective on these.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by chidera39(m): 3:18pm On Jul 30, 2020
IMAliyu:

so I could give you a non spiritual perspective on these.

There isn't a non spiritual perspective to the spiritual
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by IMAliyu(m): 4:01pm On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:


There isn't a non spiritual perspective to the spiritual
Here is the non spiritual perspective.

What is called demonic possession to me looks like neurological conditions like plain schizophrenia and epilepsy/seizures.

For the 'healings' it's just a placebo, it has no real physical effect, but a massive psychological one.

What is described as the manifestation of the 'holy spirit' is just being in a trance state. Though you may have to specific on what you mean by it.

"Inner peace from being born again" one can achieve inner peace, from simple acts such as meditation, anti-anxiety medication, dealing with what ever was stressing you and preventing inner peace in the first place. and A lot of atheists describe achieving inner peace after leaving religion.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 5:33pm On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:
Quick question for those that don't believe in God .
You have your science-inspired terms, reasons and experiences that you use to emphasize your disbelief. you're able to explain the coming of the Bible, how religion came about and why it is false and unreal to justify your disbelief, But how do you explain the miracles; the casting of demons, healings, manifestation of the holy Spirit, the inner peace that comes with being born again ?? kiss

We should explain the stunts being performed on tv by Tb Joshua and Odumeje?
Are you Normal? grin grin grin

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 5:36pm On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:


It shouldn't even be an argument, they can't even answer this.

Quick question.
Since miracles exists, why don't we see the missing body part of amputees grow back? I await your answer.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:51pm On Jul 30, 2020
kingxsamz:


Quick question.
Since miracles exists, why don't we see the missing body part of amputees grow back? I await your answer.

Because they should not have been amputated in the first place.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 7:31pm On Jul 30, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Because they should not have been amputated in the first place.

Since miracles exists, why don't we see the missing body part of amputees grow back? I await your answer.

When you're ready to answer let me know.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by OtemAtum: 8:21pm On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:
Quick question for those that don't believe in God .
You have your science-inspired terms, reasons and experiences that you use to emphasize your disbelief. you're able to explain the coming of the Bible, how religion came about and why it is false and unreal to justify your disbelief, But how do you explain the miracles; the casting of demons, healings, manifestation of the holy Spirit, the inner peace that comes with being born again ?? kiss
I am not an atheist but I think I can explain some of these things.

There is nothing like casting of demons. It's just false manifestations to keep the gullibles gullible. Have you ever wondered why it is easy for many pastors and ordinary church workers to cast out demons but can't cast out CoVid 19 at isolation centres? There is nothing like religious healing. Can you tell me one cancer patient whom you knew got healed by any pastor? Inner peace by being born again? That one is a package that follows every belief you chose on earth. For example, the Muslims have inner peace worshipping their god, with the hope that their god will put them in his heaven when they die. Same as Buddhism, Hinduists, Atheists, Freethinkers, Shintoists, etc.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Playthepianos: 9:03pm On Jul 30, 2020
Man, they will always find a way to twist it. They don't believe in it in the first place.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Sheunma: 9:31pm On Jul 30, 2020
chidera39:
Quick question for those that don't believe in God .
You have your science-inspired terms, reasons and experiences that you use to emphasize your disbelief. you're able to explain the coming of the Bible, how religion came about and why it is false and unreal to justify your disbelief, But how do you explain the miracles; the casting of demons, healings, manifestation of the holy Spirit, the inner peace that comes with being born again ?? kiss
inner peace! This reminds of kungfu Panda grin
What do you mean by manifestation of holy spirit?
Healings? Our Hospitals are still bursting at the seams with people in need of healings.
We could use some casting of demons for Buhari and many other political demons destroying our country.
Like I said before, miracles are needed more in our Hospitals and not the church. Also, the People of southern Kaduna could use a very big miracle right now in the light of the grotesque killings that has been visited on their land.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:27pm On Jul 30, 2020
kingxsamz:


Since miracles exists, why don't we see the missing body part of amputees grow back? I await your answer.

When you're ready to answer let me know

My answer remains the same, they should not have lost their limbs in the first place.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 10:49pm On Jul 30, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


My answer remains the same, they should not have lost their limbs in the first place.

I'm saying A you're saying Z undecided...
I didn't ask you if they should have lost their limbs, I said why aren't miracles restoring lost body parts?
Shift one side abeg if the question is troubling you to answer.
People that your pastors healed of HIV after having sex, should they have contracted it in the first place? Clown.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:01pm On Jul 30, 2020
kingxsamz:


I'm saying A you're saying Z undecided...
I didn't ask you if they should have lost their limbs, I said why aren't miracles restoring lost body parts?
Shift one side abeg if the question is troubling you to answer.
People that your pastors healed of HIV after having sex, should they have contracted it in the first place? Clown.

Ok, the question is not for me, you are seeking those magicians called pastors.

Sir Doer of Magic, Xzams is finding you oh!
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 11:14pm On Jul 30, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Ok, the question is not for me, you are seeking those magicians called pastors.

Sir Doer of Magic, Xzams is finding you oh!

Are you not a Christian? undecided
Don't you believe in miracles?
The question was meant for all of you.
So, why are you dodging and diverting? undecided

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Buliwyf: 8:06am On Jul 31, 2020
These guys will never learn that their claims of miracles have never been an evidence of it.

This is the social media age. Show us a boy who was blind from 10 years ago till last year suddenly get his sight by being prayed for by a pastor with picture evidence.

You are all going to church to see miracles. But people you know personally with disabilities in your family have remained the way they are. Ask yourself why. Your fellow church members that you have known for years with one disability or another are still the same way. Yet your pastor is performing random "miracles" on people you can't verify.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:37am On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:


Are you not a Christian? undecided
Don't you believe in miracles?
The question was meant for all of you.
So, why are you dodging and diverting? undecided

grin
I Love God, the Most High and His Holy Son And His Commandments and All that is His, so therefore, there are many wonderful and threedaful Works Done by the Lord God to and in man commonly called miracles.

But miracles are not to be held onto or Be lived in as the basis of living. They are simply "Gifts' from the Lord God. No one lives their lives or should live their lives based on gifts alone.

For it is Written, "man shall not live by bread or miracles alone, but On The Word (Commandment) of God".
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 11:19am On Jul 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin
I Love God, the Most High and His Holy Son And His Commandments and All that is His, so therefore, there are many wonderful and threedaful Works Done by the Lord God to and in man commonly called miracles.

But miracles are not to be held onto or Be lived in as the basis of living. They are simply "Gifts' from the Lord God. No one lives their lives or should live their lives based on gifts alone.

For it is Written, "man shall not live by bread or miracles alone, but On The Word (Commandment) of God".


Eyah, sorry, I didn't ask for a sermon.
I only wanted a simple answer to my question.
Let someone else answer since you can't.

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 3:35pm On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:


Eyah, sorry, I didn't ask for a sermon.
I only wanted a simple answer to my question.
Let someone else answer since you can't.

Eyah, ekpele, you asked a foolish question deserving of a sermon.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 4:09pm On Jul 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Eyah, ekpele, you asked a foolish question deserving of a sermon.

grin grin grin
Foolish question?
Because it puts you in a hard spot?
Abeg go rest.
Miracles ko.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Funaki: 6:19pm On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:


Are you not a Christian? undecided
Don't you believe in miracles?
The question was meant for all of you.
So, why are you dodging and diverting? undecided

Were you expecting an answer before?

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Deicide: 6:22pm On Jul 31, 2020
The miracle that stopped covid 19 worldwide

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Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 7:47pm On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:


grin grin grin
Foolish question?
Because it puts you in a hard spot?
Abeg go rest.
Miracles ko.

grin are you running out of memory? i answered you but because you could not proceed with any further reasonable question, I referred you to the Circus, I even help you call them grin!

Rest now make dem come entertain you.
Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by kingxsamz(m): 7:49pm On Jul 31, 2020
Funaki:


Were you expecting an answer before?

The clown really fall my hand. grin
I thought he would come up with one unreasonable excuse.

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