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Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by OfoIgbo: 6:09pm On Jul 31, 2020
Atigba:
Nri was founded by one of the son of Igodo in 9 century A.D.

We gave birth to Igbo people
9century AD is the year the Igboukwu artifacts were created and buried in a land that used to belong to Oraeri, an offshoot of NRI.

What it means is that NRI itself is far older than Oraeri which is Nri's offshoot.

An offshoot is always later, than the real deal.

Academic Books have already recorded the cultural preeminence of NRI during the Igodomigodo days, so your falsifications on nairaland won't cut it.

Portuguese explorers recorded Nri's preeminence over Benin culturally. Cannot be changed by latter day revisionists
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 6:29pm On Jul 31, 2020
OfoIgbo:
9century AD is the year the Igboukwu artifacts were created and buried in a land that used to belong to Oraeri, an offshoot of NRI.

What it means is that NRI itself is far older than Oraeri which is Nri's offshoot.

An offshoot is always later, than the real deal.

Academic Books have already recorded the cultural preeminence of NRI during the Igodomigodo days, so your falsifications on nairaland won't cut it.

Portuguese explorers recorded Nri's preeminence over Benin culturally. Cannot be changed by latter day revisionists
Nri kingdom was founded by Eri in 9 century AD and you people agreed that you have no clue where he migrated from. You even suggest he fell from sky.

Eri is from Igodomigodo, one of the son of our Ogiso. He founded Nri kingdom, other of our children founded several Igbo communities.

No one fell from sky.. You hear

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by OfoIgbo: 6:50pm On Jul 31, 2020
Atigba:
Nri kingdom was founded by Eri in 9 century AD and you people agreed that you have no clue where he migrated from. You even suggest he fell from sky.

Eri is from Igodomigodo, one of the son of our Ogiso. He founded Nri kingdom, other of our children founded several Igbo communities.

No one fell from sky.. You hear

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri
People say Eri is a descendant of Had the son of Jacob. These are speculations.

But one thing every NRI man knows is that NRI held sway over Igodomigodo and Benin.
If Ewuare I, or Ozolua were around and read that you are attempting to bring NRI down to the level of Ife or Igodomigodo or Benin, they will use your corpse to bury the next oba to die.

NRI which remains the oldest surviving kingdom has a huge cultural significance
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 6:56pm On Jul 31, 2020
OfoIgbo:
People say Eri is a descendant of Had the son of Jacob. These are speculations.

But one thing every NRI man knows is that NRI held sway over Igodomigodo and Benin.
If Ewuare I, or Ozolua were around and read that you are attempting to bring NRI down to the level of Ife or Igodomigodo or Benin, they will use your corpse to bury the next oba to die.

NRI which remains the oldest surviving kingdom has a huge cultural significance
Chae eee

This is the reason why no body take you Igbo serious in this country.

Jacob my asss

One of our Ogiso son founded Nri kingdom.

Those Obas you mentioned above ruled just yesterday in Benin Kingdom.

I am talking about the ancient kingdom of Igodomigodo where am a citizen.

Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by OfoIgbo: 7:04pm On Jul 31, 2020
Atigba:
Chae eee

This is the reason why no body take you Igbo serious in this country.

Jacob my asss

One of our Ogiso son founded Nri kingdom.

Those Obas you mentioned above ruled just yesterday in Benin Kingdom.

I am talking about the ancient kingdom of Igodomigodo where am a citizen.
NRI also started in the BC era. I am aware of an academic process by someone to prove it at the moment. That effort will correctly ascribe a more accurate date to NRI civilisation.
The date will also dwarf the Igodomigodo date.
NRI held sway as the cultural overlords of Igodomigodo, the same way NRI was the cultural overlords over Benin.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Bkayyy: 7:07pm On Jul 31, 2020
Atigba:
Chae eee

This is the reason why no body take you Igbo serious in this country.

Jacob my asss

One of our Ogiso son founded Nri kingdom.

Those Obas you mentioned above ruled just yesterday in Benin Kingdom.

I am talking about the ancient kingdom of Igodomigodo where am a citizen.
So it is Igodo you are talking about. The guy wasn't wrong when he said igodomigodo was an offshoot of nri. Incase you don't know Igodo means key
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Hellraiser77: 7:21pm On Jul 31, 2020
UdechiHD:
You and this hype on Nri! When did Nri institute the four market days? How can you institute a culture that is older than you? Nri may be older than Benin and Ife, but when it comes to Igboland, it's younger compared to groups like Awka, Isu, Okigwe, Nsukka etc. If not thousands of years younger.

Igbo culture existed since the BC, and reached its height exactly the period Nri soujorned into the heartland. Nri and other Eri offshoot were middlebeltern Igbos pushed out from present Kogi by the Akpotu groups.

Again, Oraeri never founded Igbo Ukwu artifacts. They actually displaced the original occupants of that land. In addition, Pre-historic Igboland would have began from present Ondo curving into the plains of Igalaland to the Kaduna valley and running down to where the Oru (coastal Igbo) domiciled. However, the rise of Igodomingodo may have pushed the Igbos to move east as well as the coming of the Akpotu(Igala) groups who pushed the Eri groups to cross the Niger into the heartland.
This your submission is a line that historians hardly tow Maybe because of how ancient it is, I always tell people that NRI is a reltaively young civilization compared to the ancient stock of Igbos it met on ground.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 7:42pm On Jul 31, 2020
Bkayyy:
So it is Igodo you are talking about. The guy wasn't wrong when he said igodomigodo was an offshoot of nri. Incase you don't know Igodo means key
Of cause I know igodo mean key.

One of our Ogiso son birth Nri kingdom
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by iyofason: 7:42pm On Jul 31, 2020
Atigba:
You are Benin/ille ibinu, you are not a citizen of Igodomigodo.

Ife is your ancestral home
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Bro Ife and Ibinu has something in common, but not what you wrote here. Pls research more.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Nobody: 7:42pm On Jul 31, 2020
Hellraiser77:
This your submission is a line that historians hardly tow Maybe because of how ancient it is, I always tell people that NRI is a reltaively young civilization compared to the ancient stock of Igbos it met on ground.
Exactly, maybe due to the lazy historians that abound in Igboland. A lot of them just do follow follow. Only few historians are hitting new frontiers, carrying out archaeological findings etc to back their claims.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 7:43pm On Jul 31, 2020
OfoIgbo:
NRI also started in the BC era. I am aware of an academic process by someone to prove it at the moment. That effort will correctly ascribe a more accurate date to NRI civilisation.
The date will also dwarf the Igodomigodo date.
NRI held sway as the cultural overlords of Igodomigodo, the same way NRI was the cultural overlords over Benin.
Nri kingdom was founded in 9 century
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Atigba(op): 7:43pm On Jul 31, 2020
iyofason:
....


Bro Ife and Ibinu has something in common, but not what you wrote here. Pls research more.
ife gave birth to Ibinu
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Hellraiser77: 7:58pm On Jul 31, 2020
UdechiHD:
Exactly, maybe due to the lazy historians that abound in Igboland. A lot of them just do follow follow. Only few historians are hitting new frontiers, carrying out archaeological findings etc to back their claims.
Serious archeological expeditions are needed across igboland coupled with modern technology there is no telling what truths might be revealed, Unfortunately everybody has become so comfortable with the Nri account.......NRI is way too young to be the origin of the Igbo peoples
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Nobody: 8:01pm On Jul 31, 2020
Bkayyy:
So it is Igodo you are talking about. The guy wasn't wrong when he said igodomigodo was an offshoot of nri. Incase you don't know Igodo means key
Igodomingodo was birted with Igbo culture. Maybe by Nri, maybe by the Igodo themselves who may have had Igbo roots? The culture of Igodomingodo was rooted in ancient Igbo norms before the decline of the Ogiso dynasty.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Nobody: 8:12pm On Jul 31, 2020
Hellraiser77:
Serious archeological expeditions are needed across igboland coupled with modern technology there is no telling what truths might be revealed, Unfortunately everybody has become so comfortable with the Nri account.......NRI is way too young to be the origin of the Igbo peoples
Why the Umueri/Nri account gained root was that only them could remember their migrations. Since other older clans forgot their origins, the Nri account became the story historians held on to. However, the founding of the Igbo-Ukwu artifacts actually made a mess of Nri cradle of Igboland story, as well as Eri’s legend who accounted meeting the Awka’s during his sojorn from the middle-belt.

Again archeological excavations from Nsukka and Okigwe and legends from Amaigbo brought new dimensions to the Igbo origin story. Even where Eri/Nri held forte, historians such as Dr Nwaezeigwe (the Ibusa born historian) discovered authochtonous Igbo communities that the Umueri groups met on ground. In Aguleri there is an authochtonous group older than Eri. Even in Agukwu Nri, another group such as the Umudiana actually bequeated the religious rites of their kindred to the Nri.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Nobody: 8:22pm On Jul 31, 2020
UdechiHD:
Why the Nri account gained root was that only them could remember their migrations. Since other older clans forgot their origins, the Nri account became the story historians held on to. However, the founding of the Igbo-Ukwu artifacts actually made a mess of Nri cradle of Igboland story, as well as Eri’s legend who accounted meeting the Awka’s during his sojorn from the middle-belt.

Again archeological excavations from Nsukka and Okigwe and legends from Amaigbo brought new dimensions to the Igbo origin story. Even where Eri/Nri held forte, historians such as Dr Nwaezeigwe (the Ibusa born historian) discovered authochtonous Igbo communities that the Umueri groups met on ground. In Aguleri that authochtonous groups older than Eri. Even in Agukwu Nri, another group such as the Umudiana actually bequeated the religious rites of their kindred to the Nri.
Lol

I was thinking how u will not ship in Imo state or the other.


everyone is not culture less like u lots.
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Nobody: 8:26pm On Jul 31, 2020
MelesZenawi:
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Lol

I was thinking how u will not ship in Imo state or the other.


everyone is not culture less like u lots.
I’m an historian by profession and I don't deal with hearsay. Mr Meles the son of Eri from Gad? grin
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Hellraiser77: 8:27pm On Jul 31, 2020
UdechiHD:
Why the Nri account gained root was that only them could remember their migrations. Since other older clans forgot their origin, the Nri account became the story historians held on to. However, the founding of the Igbo-Ukwu artifacts actually made a mess of Nri cradle of Igboland story, as well as Eri’s legend who accounted meeting the Awka’s during his sojorn from the middle-belt.

Again archeological excavations from Nsukka and Okigwe and legend from Amaigbo brought new dimensions to the Igbo origin story.
Sometime ago, the current Ooni of IFe tried opening up the discourse on this ancient Igbo origins but met a lot of backlash from his fellow Yoruba obas cos what he was positing was that an ancient Igbo group were in Ife either before or alongside the ancestors of modern yoruba, Migrations and return-migrations coupled with lack of any record system has complicated things a lot, it will only take an open minded extensive and equally expensive archeological inquiry spanning many years to even begin to unravel the connections of the Ethnicities of modern day Southern and middlebelt Nigeria, they are all related one way or the other
Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Nobody: 8:56pm On Jul 31, 2020
Hellraiser77:
Sometime ago, the current Ooni of IFe tried opening up the discourse on this ancient Igbo origins but met a lot of backlash from his fellow Yoruba obas cos what he was positing was that an ancient Igbo group were in Ife either before or alongside the ancestors of modern yoruba, Migrations and return-migrations coupled with lack of any record system has complicated things a lot, it will only take an open minded extensive and equally expensive archeological inquiry spanning many years to even begin to unravel the connections of the Ethnicities of modern day Southern and middlebelt Nigeria, they are all related one way or the other
Yeah, we are all related in one way or the other.
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