I may even examine Unisoc Spreadtrum line up too for Itel fans

atheistandproud:


I don't know bro.

I'm just trying to touch on every major chipset producer. I just finished writing the on Exynos which I'll be posting to WordPress but I'll leave a link here on this post.

On Sunday, I'll post Huawei's full Kirin line up here on NL.

Not a problem

KrazyDave16:

Not a problem

As promised, the full line up of all Exynos chips

https://inquisitiveuniverse./2020/07/29/exynos-socs-a-full-line-up/

atheistandproud:


As promised, the full line up of all Exynos chips

https://inquisitiveuniverse./2020/07/29/exynos-socs-a-full-line-up/

Thanks

KrazyDave16:

Thanks

You're welcome

erekking:
Snapdragon 865+ has overtaken bionic a13 as the fastest processor in the world. First launched with asus rog phone 3......so i guess you can say the fastest phone in the world right now is an android phone with the rog phone 3. This will probably be a shared position or overtaken for some time by other flagships like the latest samsung galaxy note, which is also slated to arrive with the sd 865+. Another contender for the top spot could also be the lenovo legion gaming phone when it is launched.

I agree with you on this. The Asus ROG Phone 3 is the most powerful phone ever made. Not even just because of the fact that it uses the Snapdragon 865+,but because this is a smartphone that you can actually overclock like a gaming pc. No root,no custom kernels or roms. The cpu scheduler and governor is actually UNLOCKED! I would certainly pick the Asus over Lenovo's Legion Duel.

atheistandproud:
I may even examine Unisoc Spreadtrum line up too for Itel fans

Oga @atheistandproud,nicely informative post. I must say this though. I am a new Nairaland member but I am no stranger to Nairaland,having been following my favourite sections here before joining(not just phone) but the phone section is by far my favourite. It is always a nice thing seeing gadget guys posting helpful threads. I have been noting all of you guys on the phone section and I know your posting history and I can proudly say that the OP is one of the most helpful people on this thread. Allow me to introduce myself.
I am a gadget guy myself (and i am just a plain old power user,be it smartphones,laptops and desktops,cars(especially supercars) and military hardware . I am reasonably well versed in these things but if there is one thing I have noticed about atheistandproud it is that he believes in the KISS Principle(Keep It Simple Stupid) and he backs up his articles with accurate facts.
I have learned a LOT today(e.g. I never could have imagined that the iPhone 5s is as powerful as the Helio A22?? and I wasn't really suprised that the Apple A9 is as powerful as the Snapdragon 720G(wow). But I just want to say that in my own opinion the A11 Bionic is really closer to the SD855 than the SD845.
In conclusion: More grease to your elbow, my fellow atheist! Buenas noches .
Edit: Oh,and one more thing bros,how does Unisoc SC9863A compare to the Helio P22? My guess is that they perform more or less the same,but the MT6762 beats Spreadtrum by far in efficiency(28nm vs 12nm?? No contest!
Looking forward to your Unisoc article...
At this rate you might inspire me to make a thread of my own . Fingers crossed.

thepoweruser:

I agree with you on this. The Asus ROG Phone 3 is the most powerful phone ever made. Not even just because of the fact that it uses the Snapdragon 865+,but because this is a smartphone that you can actually overclock like a gaming pc. No root,no custom kernels or roms. The cpu scheduler and governor is actually UNLOCKED! I would certainly pick the Asus over Lenovo's Legion Duel.

and it is even 3ghz already! Mobile chips are mind-blowing these days.

thepoweruser:

Oga @atheistandproud,nicely informative post. I must say this though. I am a new Nairaland member but I am no stranger to Nairaland,having been following my favourite sections here before joining(not just phone) but the phone section is by far my favourite. It is always a nice thing seeing gadget guys posting helpful threads. I have been noting all of you guys on the phone section and I know your posting history and I can proudly say that the OP is one of the most helpful people on this thread. Allow me to introduce myself.
I am a gadget guy myself (and i am just a plain old power user,be it smartphones,laptops and desktops,cars(especially supercars) and military hardware . I am reasonably well versed in these things but if there is one thing I have noticed about atheistandproud it is that he believes in the KISS Principle(Keep It Simple Stupid) and he backs up his articles with accurate facts.
I have learned a LOT today(e.g. I never could have imagined that the iPhone 5s is as powerful as the Helio A22?? and I wasn't really suprised that the Apple A9 is as powerful as the Snapdragon 720G(wow). But I just want to say that in my own opinion the A11 Bionic is really closer to the SD855 than the SD845.
In conclusion: More grease to your elbow, my fellow atheist! Buenas noches .
Edit: Oh,and one more thing bros,how does Unisoc SC9863A compare to the Helio P22? My guess is that they perform more or less the same,but the MT6762 beats Spreadtrum by far in efficiency(28nm vs 12nm?? No contest!
Looking forward to your Unisoc article...
At this rate you might inspire me to make a thread of my own . Fingers crossed.

Thank you very much sir

thepoweruser:

I agree with you on this. The Asus ROG Phone 3 is the most powerful phone ever made. Not even just because of the fact that it uses the Snapdragon 865+,but because this is a smartphone that you can actually overclock like a gaming pc. No root,no custom kernels or roms. The cpu scheduler and governor is actually UNLOCKED! I would certainly pick the Asus over Lenovo's Legion Duel.

This is amazing

atheistandproud:


This is amazing

Let me add a few things to what my fellow atheist said:
1). The A13 Bionic and the Snapdragon 865+ are neck-and-neck in performance. How do I know this? Well,the 865 beats the A13 in some scenarios and the A13 does vice-versa.
2). Would you really like to know why Apple's best chipset is still capable of bullying the newer SD865?
I'll explain.
You see,in my own opinion what mainly affects SoC perf is not the big cores in an ARM big.LITTLE/DynamIQ setup,it's the little cores. Remember,that mobile chipsets are primarily targeted at one area: efficiency. The little cores are more important IMHO because the more powerful (and efficient) they are the les s the scheduler has to use the bigger cores more often.
Think about it:the big cores have to do less. Because the little cores are used more often power efficiency is improved dramatically. That is why a year-old hexa-core A13 still trashes it's newer rivals.
I'll delve deeper.
The Thunder cores of the A13 Bionic,to me,are the most impressive part of the soc,having the performance of a Cortex-A73 and using more than 1.5x the energy efficiency. And the A13's massive 8MB of L3 cache! Da**q!
3). The core that would end up beating the Lightning(big) core of the A13 is the Cortex-X1,which is slightly more powerful (but here is the kicker) uses 50% LESS POWER!
NB: This only applies when the core setup is on 5nm with 4MB L3 cache.
4). Surprisingly,the SD855+ is as powerful as a Core i5-8300U.
Sorry for hijacking the thread .

thepoweruser:

Let me add a few things to what my fellow atheist said:
1). The A13 Bionic and the Snapdragon 865+ are neck-and-neck in performance. How do I know this? Well,the 865 beats the A13 in some scenarios and the A13 does vice-versa.
2). Would you really like to know why Apple's best chipset is still capable of bullying the newer SD865?
I'll explain.
You see,in my own opinion what mainly affects SoC perf is not the big cores in an ARM big.LITTLE/DynamIQ setup,it's the little cores. Remember,that mobile chipsets are primarily targeted at one area: efficiency. The little cores are more important IMHO because the more powerful (and efficient) they are the les s the scheduler has to use the bigger cores more often.
Think about it:the big cores have to do less. Because the little cores are used more often power efficiency is improved dramatically. That is why a year-old hexa-core A13 still trashes it's newer rivals.
I'll delve deeper.
The Thunder cores of the A13 Bionic,to me,are the most impressive part of the soc,having the performance of a Cortex-A73 and using more than 1.5x the energy efficiency. And the A13's massive 8MB of L3 cache! Da**q!
3). The core that would end up beating the Lightning(big) core of the A13 is the Cortex-X1,which is slightly more powerful (but here is the kicker) uses 50% LESS POWER!
NB: This only applies when the core setup is on 5nm with 4MB L3 cache.
4). Surprisingly,the SD855+ is as powerful as a Core i5-8300U.
Sorry for hijacking the thread .

I surrender the thread to you sir

thepoweruser:

Let me add a few things to what my fellow atheist said:
1). The A13 Bionic and the Snapdragon 865+ are neck-and-neck in performance. How do I know this? Well,the 865 beats the A13 in some scenarios and the A13 does vice-versa.
2). Would you really like to know why Apple's best chipset is still capable of bullying the newer SD865?
I'll explain.
You see,in my own opinion what mainly affects SoC perf is not the big cores in an ARM big.LITTLE/DynamIQ setup,it's the little cores. Remember,that mobile chipsets are primarily targeted at one area: efficiency. The little cores are more important IMHO because the more powerful (and efficient) they are the les s the scheduler has to use the bigger cores more often.
Think about it:the big cores have to do less. Because the little cores are used more often power efficiency is improved dramatically. That is why a year-old hexa-core A13 still trashes it's newer rivals.
I'll delve deeper.
The Thunder cores of the A13 Bionic,to me,are the most impressive part of the soc,having the performance of a Cortex-A73 and using more than 1.5x the energy efficiency. And the A13's massive 8MB of L3 cache! Da**q!
3). The core that would end up beating the Lightning(big) core of the A13 is the Cortex-X1,which is slightly more powerful (but here is the kicker) uses 50% LESS POWER!
NB: This only applies when the core setup is on 5nm with 4MB L3 cache.
4). Surprisingly,the SD855+ is as powerful as a Core i5-8300U.
Sorry for hijacking the thread .

TIL.

[s]But don't you think the X1 will be used exclusively for prime core performance until a better successor is made...?[/s]

nvm, saw you meant the prime core.

atheistandproud:


I surrender the thread to you sir

Abeg I still dey learn oh!
But lemme correct myself, I made a mistake up there.
The Thunder core has more than twice the efficiency as an A73. What pisses me off about the curremt lineup of Android SoCs is this:
*Exynos 990 and 9820 use the same little core( Cortex-A55),albeit at different clockings.
*Even the d_ n SD855's Kryo 485 Silver is very similar to the SD865's Kryo 585 Silver(both tweaked Cortex-A55s),though these tweaks are largely meaningless.
*SO,YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CHIEF BOTTLENECKS ARE THE LITTLE CORES.
At this rate, I'd personally pick a downclocked A75(1.2ghz) over a 2.0GHz A55.
The only little core that is close to defeating Thunder is the Cortex-A65,though that's only for cars now
Seems like we'd have to wait till 2021 for a new little core(new ARM architecture update,possibly ARMv9,codename Matterhorn).
Now,my dream ARM SoC:
2x Cortex-X1@3.3GHz
4x Cortex-A78@2.84GHz
4x Cortex-A65@2.1GHz
Yes,a deca-core chipset. This could give an AnTuTu score of over 790K and a Geekbench 5.1 multicore pretty close to a Core i7-1065G7.
PS:RUMORS HAVE IT THAT THE A14 BIONIC WILL BE THE CHIP TO DIE FOR. A CHIPSET CAPABLE OF KILLING THE 2018 MACBOOK PRO!

Cortex x1 and a78 taking up 6 cores ! this will devastate your battery now. I feel like we don't need decacores on arm just yet (except those modified for laptops) this power is nearing diminishing return. It's only good for future proofing devices (if android device oems are willing to push updates that long)
Right now, most app utilizations on ios and android are on par and stuffing more power in the processor won't do much for either.
Refinement on other fronts should be the goal,
Like ddr5x or even ddr6 rams with speeds to match, this would make actual performance boost than just cpu, faster internal storage technology improvement would also complement the ram bump, this will translate to faster file retrieval between ram and storage.

Better battery technology too, they have been throwing around graphene battery technology around alot now. Its not about throwing in dual battery and 100watt power brick. That's a potential hazard. Graphene can radically increase charging speeds without extra gra gra.

erekking:
Cortex x1 and a78 taking up 6 cores ! this will devastate your battery now. I feel like we don't need decacores on arm just yet (except those modified for laptops) this power is nearing diminishing return. It's only good for future proofing devices (if android device oems are willing to push updates that long)
Right now, most app utilizations on ios and android are on par and stuffing more power in the processor won't do much for either.
Refinement on other fronts should be the goal,
Like ddr5x or even ddr6 rams with speeds to match, this would make actual performance boost than just cpu, faster internal storage technology improvement would also complement the ram bump, this will translate to faster file retrieval between ram and storage.

Better battery technology too, they have been throwing around graphene battery technology around alot now. Its not about throwing in dual battery and 100watt power brick. That's a potential hazard. Graphene can radically increase charging speeds without extra gra gra.

Chairman,you dey largely on point but the truth is,like RAM,more CPU power never hurt anyone.
(I'm talking NRA slogan here: ''Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it'' )
The real power drainer would be the Cortex-X1 in my opinion,since a Cortex-A78 is 50% more efficient than a Cortex-A7,meaning a 3.0GHz A78 uses the same amount of power as a 2.6GHz A77.
The A76 was really the first ARM core intended for use in laptops. The A77 is a bigger A76 (I think maybe 20% larger,not certain for sure)and the A78 is a smaller but more powerful A77.
Anyway,I can think of two user scenarios where the power of the fictional chipset up there would seriously excel:
*SW video decoding of a 4K HDR 60FPS AV1 video (AV1 is very tough to decode efficiently with no frame drops/overheating)
*Emulation of tougher Wii/GameCube/PS2/3DS titles(Dolphin/DamonPS2/Citra) at at least 30FPS out of the box,60FPS(maybe) with tweaks.
PS:Apologies for the long epistle but TL;DR: More muscle ain't gonna hurt. By the way,why wouldn't I want these things? I am a power user after all.

Alright then, everyone to their choices, my preferred theoretical core arrangements would be;

2 × cortex x1 at possibly 3.2ghz
3 × cortex a78 at possibly 2.75ghz
3 × cortex a78 at 2.2 ghz

Kind of similar to apples bionic structure but with a third lower clocked yet powerful tier.

Your post has already changed my narrative towards iPhone I swear I go buy am even if it's outdated iPhone 8 I will buy it

thepoweruser:

Abeg I still dey learn oh!
But lemme correct myself, I made a mistake up there.
The Thunder core has more than twice the efficiency as an A73. What pisses me off about the curremt lineup of Android SoCs is this:
*Exynos 990 and 9820 use the same little core( Cortex-A55),albeit at different clockings.
*Even the d_ n SD855's Kryo 485 Silver is very similar to the SD865's Kryo 585 Silver(both tweaked Cortex-A55s),though these tweaks are largely meaningless.
*SO,YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CHIEF BOTTLENECKS ARE THE LITTLE CORES.
At this rate, I'd personally pick a downclocked A75(1.2ghz) over a 2.0GHz A55.
The only little core that is close to defeating Thunder is the Cortex-A65,though that's only for cars now
Seems like we'd have to wait till 2021 for a new little core(new ARM architecture update,possibly ARMv9,codename Matterhorn).
Now,my dream ARM SoC:
2x Cortex-X1@3.3GHz
4x Cortex-A78@2.84GHz
4x Cortex-A65@2.1GHz
Yes,a deca-core chipset. This could give an AnTuTu score of over 790K and a Geekbench 5.1 multicore pretty close to a Core i7-1065G7.
PS:RUMORS HAVE IT THAT THE A14 BIONIC WILL BE THE CHIP TO DIE FOR. A CHIPSET CAPABLE OF KILLING THE 2018 MACBOOK PRO!

A78 should be available soon I guess

Topmaike007:
Your post has already changed my narrative towards iPhone I swear I go buy am even if it's outdated iPhone 8 I will buy it

lol

mad oh

atheistandproud:
Before we begin, I write because I enjoy it. I also do it as a free service to humanity and my fellow Nigerians. You my fellow Nairanders encouraged me to start a blog, which I have and you guys have also been my highest number of visitors. I want to use this medium to thank you all very much. It means a lot to me.

Finally, I have been meeting my posts at random places in social media and often those who use them do so without giving credit. This is not fair. Countless hours go into making research for these posts as well as data. These posts are free to use but at least give credit for them either to NL or to my blog. If you are in the habit of doing such, please cease and desist.

Apple reinvented the mobile devices we now know today as smartphones in 2007 with the release of the original iPhone. The announcement of the iPhone by Steve Jobs caused all the smartphone companies to throw all their plans into the dustbin and start scrambling afresh to meet up with the then leader in the market, Apple. Apple only make premium phones to service the top end of the market. They are not bothered about the other tiers although some old iPhones could pass as Midrangers or Flagship killers these days and Apple still supports their 6 year old iPhone 6S which is the oldest apple device to receive iOS 13.


Apple Silicon is the collective name for all SoCs designed by Apple using ARM architecture. They outsource all manufacturing to either Samsung or TSMC. Their SoCs are mostly package on package (PoP) SoCs. Apple initially used Power VR GPUs but now they use an in-house designed Apple GPU.


The journey begins in 2007 with the APL0098, a 90nm single core chipset running at 412MHz. This chip powered the iPhone, iPhone 3G and the iPod. The next year (2008), an update to the APL0098 was released called the [b]APL0278, a 65nm single core chip running at 533MHz and was used in the iPod touch. In 2009, a new single core 65nm ARM cortex A8 chipset running at 600MHz called the APL0298 which was used in the iPhone 3GS.

In 2010, Apple decided to do a naming system change and the new chipset was called the A4. The A4 is a 45nm single core ARM cortex A8 running at 1GHz which was used in the iPhone 4, the iPad and the iPod touch. In 2011, Apple released the A5 which was to be used in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S. The A5 was a dual core 45nm single core ARM Cortex A9 running at 800MHz to 1GHz. In 2012, a revision to the A5 called the A5X was used in the iPad 3. The A5X was the first Quad core SoC designed by Apple. It is also the biggest ever SoC made by Apple, a huge 165nm quad core ARM Cortex A9 running at 1GHz.


In September 2012, the first Apple SoC running with Apple’s new Custom cores were released. This new chipset was called the A6 and it was used for the iPhone 5 and iPhone 5C. The name of the new custom cores were called Swift. The A6 was built on 32nm process, with a dual Swift cores running at 1.3GHz. Swift cores were built on ARM’s ARM v7-A architecture. Their performance is comparable to any ARM cortex cores between A9 to A12. The next month, an updated SoC called the A6X was released for the for the iPad 4. The A6X and the A6 were identical but the A6X has a faster clock speed of 1.4GHz.



In 2013, Apple announced a new 64-bit chipset called the A7. This was the first chipset on any smartphone to use a 64-bit architecture. Up until that point, all phones ran on 32-bit architecture. The A7 was built on 32nm process and used a dual core custom core called Cyclone running at 1.4GHz. The A7 was used for iPhone 5S, iPad Air and the iPad Mini 2 and 3. The Cyclone was built on ARM v8-A with instruction sets A64 and A32. Their performance is comparable to any chipset between A35 and A73. The A7 could perform as well as a modern Helio A22.


In September 2014, Apple released the A8, built on a 20mn process, with dual custom Typhoon cores clocked at 1.4GHz. The A8 was used in the iPhone 6, iPhone 6 plus and the iPad Mini 4. In the next month an upgraded A8X with tri cores and a faster clock speed of 1.5GHz was used in the iPad Air 2. The Typhoon was built on ARM v8-A with instruction sets A64 and A32. Their performance is comparable to any chipset between A57 and A73. The A8 can be compared to a modern Helio P22.

The next year (2015), a new chipset called the A9 was released for the iPhone 6S, iPhone 6S Plus, iPhone SE and the iPad (2015). It was a 16nm SoC with dual core custom Twister cores running at 1.8GHz. It was released alongside its updated version called the A9X which was identical to the A9 but ran at a much faster speed of 2.26GHz. the A9X can be found in the iPad Pro. The Twister was built on ARM v8-A with instruction sets A64 and A32. Their performance is comparable to any chipset between A72 and A73. The A9 is as good as a Helio P90 or SD670.

The year 2016 brought the A10 Fusion. The size of this SoC remained at 16nm but it was a quad core SoC with custom Hurricane and Zephyr cores arranged in a 2+2 big.LITTLE arrangement. They ran at a blazing fast 2.34GHz. The A10 Fusion powers the iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, iPad (2016) and the iPod touch. In 2017, the updated A10X Fusion had shrunk significantly to 10nm, and it had 6 custom Hurricane and Zephyr cores (Hexa core) arranged in a 3+3 big.LITTLE arrangement and ran faster than the original at a speed of 2.38GHz. The Fusion was built on ARM v8.1-A with instruction sets A64 and A32. Their performance is comparable to any chipset between A72 and A73. The A10 Fusion is comparable in performance with a Helio G90T, SD720G or an SD835 today.



Later that year (2016), in September, the next instalment of the Apple Silicon line called the A11 Bionic was announced. The A11 Bionic was built on a 10nm process with a Hexacore custom Moonsoon and Mistral cores arranged in a 2+4 big.LITTLE arrangement running at 2.39GHz and 1.6GHz. The A11 was Apple’s first SoC to use the in house Apple GPU as Apple were no longer using Power VR GPUs. The Phones using the A11 Bionic are the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 plus and iPhone X. The custom cores Moonsoon and Mistral are built on ARM v8.2-A with instruction sets A64. Their performance is comparable to a Cortex A65AE. The A11 is around the same level as the SD845 or SD 765G.



In September 2018, the next iteration of the Bionic SoC called the A12 Bionic was released. The A12 Bionic was built on a 7nm process and is a hexa core SoC just like its predecessor. It houses Vortex and Tempest custom cores in a 2+4 big.LITTLE arrangement running at speeds of 2.49GHz and 1.6GHz.

The next month, the updated A12X was released for use in the iPad Pro (2018). It was identical to the original A12 but had a better GPU (Apple GPU 7 core). In March 2020, another updated iteration of the A12 called the A12Z was released for the iPad Pro. It is identical with the A12 but ships with an 8 core Apple GPU. The custom cores Vortex and Tempest are built on ARM v8.3-A with instruction sets A64. Their performance is comparable to a Cortex A78. The A12 is still among the best SoCs in the world despite being over 2 years old.


The latest Apple Silicon in use is called the A13 Bionic. It is currently the best smartphone SoC in the world with a caveat. iOS is a closed system and therefore everything is streamlined and optimized to squeeze the very best out of their hardware. There is no way of knowing how the SoC would perform if it were to run an Android OS with a mishmash of parts from different companies. The A13 made it’s debut in 2019 and can be found in the iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, IPhone 11 Pro Max and the iPhone SE. It is built on a 7nm process, has hexa custom cores (Lightning and Thunder) arranged in a 2+4 big.LITTLE configuration running at 2.66GHz. The custom cores Lightning and Thunder are built on ARM v8.4-A with instruction sets A64. Their performance is comparable to a Cortex A78.


Although other companies are starting to catch up with the former leader in the market, Apple are still a force to be reckoned with.

https://inquisitiveuniverse./2020/07/29/apple-silicon-soc-lineup-for-apple-smartphones/

I'll be posting the Exynos line up on the blog on Friday, you can visit if you are interested.

Nice one sir!
Another banger!

This will make a positive impact in terms of educating people how powerful an iPhone can be.
Just imagine iPhone 6s A9 chipset comparable to Snapdragon 670 and MTK's Helio P90.

The one that wowed me is that iPhone 5S being comparable to MTK's Helio A22. Dammmmnnnn!

Seeing all this and you truly understand what OP said, one can only imagine Apple's A14.

atheistandproud:

lol
mad oh

I dey tell you bro, even the owner of Tecno is using iPhone

jizzison:


Nice one sir!
Another banger!

This will make a positive impact in terms of educating people how powerful an iPhone can be.
Just imagine iPhone 6s A9 chipset comparable to Snapdragon 670 and MTK's Helio P90.

The one that wowed me is that iPhone 5S being comparable to MTK's Helio A22. Dammmmnnnn!

Seeing all this and you truly understand what OP said, one can only imagine Apple's A14.

iPhone is truly a machine... Even iPhone 7 will outsmart The best performing Oppo and Tecno device

Topmaike007:
iPhone is truly a machine... Even iPhone 7 will outsmart The best performing Oppo and Tecno device

Chaii! I swear!

And that's iPhone 7 of how many years ago? With the A10 fusion.

I think I've to start redefining what a quality smartphone really means to myself.

jizzison:


Chaii! I swear!

And that's iPhone 7 of how many years ago? With the A10 fusion.

I think I've to start redefining what a quality smartphone really means to myself.

we're buying crap in the name of we're buying android

Topmaike007:
we're buying crap in the name of we're buying android

Don't underrate Android sha.

Steve Jobs was a visionary. He had seen the future long before everyone else did and so gave Apple iPhones a huge step ahead, handicapping everyone.

Apple are just simply far ahead of everyone else but the Gap is closing. If you use a Flagship Android, you'll know that the performance difference is narrowing down very fast.

Upper mid-range, mid-range and budget can never meet up iPhones because they (iPhones) are only made for the Flagship markets. So if you want to compare, use a suitable processor or use a fellow Flagship.

atheistandproud:


Don't underrate Android sha.

Steve Jobs was a visionary. He had seen the future long before everyone else did and so gave Apple iPhones a huge step ahead, handicapping everyone.

Apple are just simply far ahead of everyone else but the Gap is closing. If you use a Flagship Android, you'll know that the performance difference is narrowing down very fast.

Upper mid-range, mid-range and budget can never meet up iPhones because they (iPhones) are only made for the Flagship markets. So if you want to compare, use a suitable processor or use a fellow Flagship.

hmmmmmn like the Samsung galaxy s10

Topmaike007:
hmmmmmn like the Samsung galaxy s10

that's more like it

atheistandproud:


Don't underrate Android sha.

Steve Jobs was a visionary. He had seen the future long before everyone else did and so gave Apple iPhones a huge step ahead, handicapping everyone.

Apple are just simply far ahead of everyone else but the Gap is closing. If you use a Flagship Android, you'll know that the performance difference is narrowing down very fast.

Upper mid-range, mid-range and budget can never meet up iPhones because they (iPhones) are only made for the Flagship markets. So if you want to compare, use a suitable processor or use a fellow Flagship.

Yh. Apple iPhone are all flagship (except the SE series) and should be compared to Android flagship.
I watch a YouTube video where OnePlus 8 Pro ran faster then iPhone 11 Pro Max in some tasks. Android flagship are not on the same page with Apple iPhone.
But our people will buy mid-range or even entry-level and be expecting flagship performance.
Someone once asked me to help him look for a good phone less than 30k or 40k(don't really remember). I just told him there is no good phone in that range. A Good Phone is expensive.
By the way, after Steve Jobs died, iPhone has not really moved far in terms of innovation et al, na only processor still dey great.

taiwosamwell:

Yh. Apple iPhone are all flagship (except the SE series) and should be compared to Android flagship.
I watch a YouTube video where OnePlus 8 Pro ran faster then iPhone 11 Pro Max in some tasks. Android flagship are not on the same page with Apple iPhone.
But our people will buy mid-range or even entry-level and be expecting flagship performance.
Someone once asked me to help him look for a good phone less than 30k or 40k(don't really remember). I just told him there is no good phone in that range. A Good Phone is expensive.

this is it my brother. absolute truth.

we in the country need help. people will buy tuke tuke and expect it to run like 4matic.

very annoying.

atheistandproud:



this is it my brother. absolute truth.

we in the country need help. people will buy tuke tuke and expect it to run like 4matic.

very annoying.

I hate that. If I buy a 40K phone, I know things I'll do on it and if I buy a flagship smartphone I also know things to do. How can someone be expecting smooth PUBG gameplay on a 40K phone

atheistandproud:


that's more like it

but what is your take on The newly made Mediatek g70